What is your opinion on VR?

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I know little about VR, just to let you know.

 

What is your opinion on VR? I'm not talking about Google Cardboard, for example; I am talking about the top of the line stuff. Do you think it is a gimmick? Do you think VR will only ever belong to a small niche of super hardcore gamers? Do you think that VR will quickly die off? (Maybe the technology is simply not here yet?) And in what year do you think that people may be able to live in a virtual world?

[Lord Valtasar 12,708]

now that Bethesda started releasing their games for VR i think others will follow,the fact that consoles started using it is also encouraging
but the problem with hardcore gamers is that you get tired easily when in VR for long hours(at least that was the case for me)

[Rawzy 1,302]

It looks like the most entertaining thing in the world. So obviously that's why I can't afford it.

[A French Derpy full of Salt 404]

It's pretty good for the future of gaming, and the most impressive is (IMO) PAYDAY 2, it's on a old engine (Diesel 2.0) and they manage to put VR in it. And for free! TAKE THAT BETHESDA!

Edited July 24, 2018 by A French Derpy full of Salt

[Nightfall Gloam 18,293]

Right now, I still feel like VR is a little expensive and gimmicky, but I'd love to have both a PSVR and one of the other, non PlayStation VR headsets so I can at least give it a proper chance, but, the price of these in Australia plus the way I've been financially recently, does not give me much of a reason to try it, even if some of my favourite games might now be on VR.

[cuteycindyhoney 13,339]

I don't think it's doing well because the other day at Staples I saw one of those "put your cellphone in" VR headsets on clearance for $2. It even came with a Bluetooth controller and Bluetooth earbuds. I almost bought it for the controller. I couldn't think what I'd use it for though, so didn't. I'm not a gamer though. I bet if I was, I'd find it really fun.

 

Just a note about me: I am physically unable to pass any display marked "CLEARANCE" without examining each and every product offered!

Edited July 24, 2018 by cuteycindyhoney

[Kyoshi Frost Wolf 42,202]

I really like many of the *concepts* of VR, but currently it is still way too expensive and it hasn't found its ground. It can provide so much more immersion but when it is put into games like L.A. Noire, it just comes across as comedy and gimmick hampered. I have never tried proper VR before so maybe I would have a much more positive tone for it, but I can't afford it anyways, so my first problem prevents a lot of things.

[碇 シンジン 27,440]

it has potential but currently i dont think there is enough material on the market that utilizes the potential that it is capable of offering atleast not any that i know of I think Skyrim VR is a step in the right direction though 

[MangoFoalix 25,058]

I feel as of right now that it's pretty gimmicky. The biggest turn off is that I'm not spending $800 for a piece of VR tech. Lower it to around $200 and I'll maybe consider it. I guess it would be pretty cool to use, but I'm not into shelling out most of my money into a VR headset.

[Rainbow Dash 1,473]

I think it was 12 years ago i sampled the first ever concept VR machine at the Tech Museum. They had peripherals that hooked up to your hands, as opposed to holding them. You also worse a cumbersome helmet that looked like the head of the R.O.B.

I wanted it to take off. I wanted a gaming system where you were the controller.

VR today seems advanced, but it has a ways to go. The tracking for some VR systems are laughably bad. VR gives people headaches and the feeling of vertigo if you play longer than 30 minutes continuously. The VR machine i sampled way back when did not.

I wouldnt call VR a hardcore gamers tool or is the idea of VR anyway related to gaming. VR is used for actual real world issues and jobs. Hard core gamers dont even touch vr because it takes away the experience, and its overly expensive.

VR Has a long way to go in gaming to be taken seriously. Also dropping the price so people can actually afford it, cause right now both VR headsets are about the same price or more than a console.

[Lucid_Nightlight 929]

I'd have VR of I had an actual job. Sadly my parents thought I "wasn't responsible enough." I'm going to be put in drivers ed soon though.

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9 hours ago, cuteycindyhoney said:

I don't think it's doing well because the other day at Staples I saw one of those "put your cellphone in" VR headsets on clearance for $2. It even came with a Bluetooth controller and Bluetooth earbuds. I almost bought it for the controller. I couldn't think what I'd use it for though, so didn't. I'm not a gamer though. I bet if I was, I'd find it really fun.

 

Just a note about me: I am physically unable to pass any display marked "CLEARANCE" without examining each and every product offered!

Here is the problem here: With companies selling extremely cheap mockeries of what VR actually is (and actually calling it the same thing!), people try out these cheaper but much less immersive versions and deem them "just another toy", and they think that the "real deal" is pretty much the same. 

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4 hours ago, Rainbow Dash said:

I think it was 12 years ago i sampled the first ever concept VR machine at the Tech Museum. They had peripherals that hooked up to your hands, as opposed to holding them. You also worse a cumbersome helmet that looked like the head of the R.O.B.

I wanted it to take off. I wanted a gaming system where you were the controller.

VR today seems advanced, but it has a ways to go. The tracking for some VR systems are laughably bad. VR gives people headaches and the feeling of vertigo if you play longer than 30 minutes continuously. The VR machine i sampled way back when did not.

I wouldnt call VR a hardcore gamers tool or is the idea of VR anyway related to gaming. VR is used for actual real world issues and jobs. Hard core gamers dont even touch vr because it takes away the experience, and its overly expensive.

VR Has a long way to go in gaming to be taken seriously. Also dropping the price so people can actually afford it, cause right now both VR headsets are about the same price or more than a console.

One of the reasons (but not limited to) why people experience motion sickness while using VR is because it is tricking the brain into thinking you are actually in the simulation, but at the same time, you know it is not real? The result: one of the issues behind motion sickness being a thing.

And I agree, the gigantic "glasses" and the hand controllers are very clumsy; in fact, each brand is still trying to figure out what design to use, which is a clear sign that they are still in the prototype stages of the technology. In addition, much of the technology is not here yet.

Also, even if you were a hardcore VR gamer, you and everyone else would agree that all the games developed for VR are bare bones, if they are not exact but poorly transitioned replicas of console/PC games. In other words, there is not one game that makes people go, "I want VR".

Also, with numerous brands/companies producing very cheap but pathetic versions of VR (even calling it by the same title!), people get a much watered down experience, and they believe that what they are seeing is the best out there, or very nearly; in reality, some of the $800.00 versions are LIGHTYEARS ahead of the models they give out as McDonald's toys. 

[Lord Valtasar 12,708]

5 hours ago, Rainbow Dash said:

I think it was 12 years ago i sampled the first ever concept VR machine at the Tech Museum. They had peripherals that hooked up to your hands, as opposed to holding them. You also worse a cumbersome helmet that looked like the head of the R.O.B.

I wanted it to take off. I wanted a gaming system where you were the controller.

VR today seems advanced, but it has a ways to go. The tracking for some VR systems are laughably bad. VR gives people headaches and the feeling of vertigo if you play longer than 30 minutes continuously. The VR machine i sampled way back when did not.

I wouldnt call VR a hardcore gamers tool or is the idea of VR anyway related to gaming. VR is used for actual real world issues and jobs. Hard core gamers dont even touch vr because it takes away the experience, and its overly expensive.

VR Has a long way to go in gaming to be taken seriously. Also dropping the price so people can actually afford it, cause right now both VR headsets are about the same price or more than a console.

My brother has a PSVR and i played skyrim and Farpoint about 4 hours each day. Not much longer though. If you also get the ps-move which i guess anyone who gets a vr does. It gets really emersive and you can actually controll pretty much everything

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Just now, Lord Valtasar said:

My brother has a PSVR and i played skyrim and Farpoint about 4 hours each day. Not much longer though. If you also get the ps-move which i guess anyone who gets a vr does. It gets really emersive and you can actually controll pretty much everything

Nevertheless, the difference between a PSVR and, say, an Oculus Rift is too different to even compare the two. I know that first-hand. You can never get the full experience unless you try the top of the line stuff. The issues? 1: cost. 2: Even the "top of the line" stuff is still in its very early prototype phases. We are decades, maybe centuries, away from living in a virtual world.

[Lord Valtasar 12,708]

7 hours ago, TheTaZe said:

Lower it to around $200 and I'll maybe consider it.

Funny enough thats exactly how much it cost here during black friday

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Just now, Lord Valtasar said:

Funny enough thats exactly how much it cost here during black friday

I wonder how fast they sell out?

I think the "Mine mine mine" meme from Finding Nemo/Finding Dory belongs here.

[Lord Valtasar 12,708]

My brother got the last one.and he was there a day early.

Unfortunately he sold it a few weeks after so no more VR for me.

Technology isn't that far behind. The stuff they use in movies are awesome already. The real question is when will we see it used in games for the public.and that may very well actually take decades

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Just now, Lord Valtasar said:

My brother got the last one.and he was there a day early.

Unfortunately he sold it a few weeks after so no more VR for me.

Technology isn't that far behind. The stuff they use in movies are awesome already. The real question is when will we see it used in games for the public.and that may very well actually take decades

And games and movies are but mere stepping stones to what the technology could lead to. I have great hopes for it, but if current trends continue, some companies would rather produce a cheap version for a quick buck than see what could happen of the technology.

[Rainbow Dash 1,473]

12 minutes ago, Melody2222 said:

Also, even if you were a hardcore VR gamer, you and everyone else would agree that all the games developed for VR are bare bones, if they are not exact but poorly transitioned replicas of console/PC games. In other words, there is not one game that makes people go, "I want VR".

I disagree. There are games that are incredible on VR only. Job Simulator is one of them, and even though its taboo to mention the fandom or show, Rick and Morty: Virtual Rickality.

Again, id like to reiterate that VR is not a gamer thing. Architects are starting to use Oculus Rift. Before then Doctors and engineers used virtual reality. THE ARMED FORCES uses it in some applications.

Just because you cant go into the world like ready player one depicts, doesnt mean anything. Bare bones? In what sense? You can play all of Skyrim in VR. Yes, youre entire body and mind arent transported into the game. That would require at least 10 terabytes of processing power.....and then youd need 100 terabytes more for the coding.

[Snow Frostflame 3,568]

First time I saw it was back when the Oculus was a good grand just for the headset, and from what I saw I knew this would be the future of gaming. VR has come a long way from then, and I'm just itching to get my hands on my own so I can try Skyrim in VR. Also Yes I have used the headset before, my parents allowed me to test out a quick demo, and even though I was holding a standard controller the experience was better than I could of imagined. 

[Lord Valtasar 12,708]

2 minutes ago, Melody2222 said:

Some companies would rather produce a cheap version for a quick buck than see what could happen of the technology.

I was actually pretty excited when google cardboard came out as i never thought i'll ever try the real thing.so it has its benefits since most people wouldn't even get that small taste otherwise

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6 minutes ago, Lord Valtasar said:

I was actually pretty excited when google cardboard came out as i never thought i'll ever try the real thing.so it has its benefits since most people wouldn't even get that small taste otherwise

Fair point.

Overall, I'm on the fence on VR. Both sides are as equally as convincing to me.

9 minutes ago, Rainbow Dash said:

I disagree. There are games that are incredible on VR only. Job Simulator is one of them, and even though its taboo to mention the fandom or show, Rick and Morty: Virtual Rickality.

Again, id like to reiterate that VR is not a gamer thing. Architects are starting to use Oculus Rift. Before then Doctors and engineers used virtual reality. THE ARMED FORCES uses it in some applications.

Just because you cant go into the world like ready player one depicts, doesnt mean anything. Bare bones? In what sense? You can play all of Skyrim in VR. Yes, youre entire body and mind arent transported into the game. That would require at least 10 terabytes of processing power.....and then youd need 100 terabytes more for the coding.

I haven't tried VR since 2016. I suppose they would have advanced a bit since then.

Nevertheless, it is still a platform for the developers of VR to say to the populous, "Hey, look at what we can do. Do you want to see more?"

And of course it was used be the military first, silly.  So were video games (to some extent), televisions (to some extent), etc. etc.

What I mean is that dozens and dozens of games/simulations currently lack a compelling story, like what is found in Horizon Zero Dawn or Skyrim. As for your comment about Skyrim, I've heard that some people are saying that in order to up the ante in terms of sales, that with time, VR would have to produce similarly epic experiences that are VR only. (Aka unique games only found on VR.

Edited July 24, 2018 by Melody2222

[Lord Valtasar 12,708]

10 minutes ago, Rainbow Dash said:

Again, id like to reiterate that VR is not a gamer thing. Architects are starting to use Oculus Rift. Before then Doctors and engineers used virtual reality. THE ARMED FORCES uses it in some applications.

Indeed. I really want to try the 3d sculpting they have in some

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Just now, Lord Valtasar said:

Indeed. I really want to try the 3d sculpting they have in some

Me too!

Sadly, once the technology advances to a point, we all know that VR porn will become a thing. It's inevitable. I just hope that VR doesn't suffer the same perspective that many have on furries or anime.