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[Illiad Easle 3,145]

@StrawberryMilk Simp

7 hours ago, StrawberryMilk Simp said:

And you did say it was silent

I don't remember saying that, if I did it was a mistake on my part. Blu's pistol is silenced, maybe there was some confusion there?

7 hours ago, StrawberryMilk Simp said:

also the enemies first instinct was to hide.

That's fair, but I don't think you mentioned that in your post.

 

How about this: The next time we have a combat scene we plan it out here, that way we can go more blow per blow rather than having to write a paragraph of anticipated actions only for the first one to get changed? Once the fight is planned out then one of us can just post the details of it and the story moves forward?

[Evil Pink One 13,507]

8 hours ago, Illiad Easle said:

That's fair, but I don't think you mentioned that in your post.

The unicorn hid on her portal then you shot it.

 

8 hours ago, Illiad Easle said:

don't remember saying that, if I did it was a mistake on my part. Blu's pistol is silenced, maybe there was some confusion there?

Probably that... But the gun is upgraded. So i thought the noise would be minimal to none, to the point that it would still be hard to pin point the noise, especially on a ghastly gorge.

[Evil Pink One 13,507]

@Illiad Easle sorry for the very late reply.... i was actually waiting for you... but it turns out you already posted XP.... what the hay ....

[Evil Pink One 13,507]

So i havent been doodling and was focus all on RP.... I should really go back to finishing my comics....

[Evil Pink One 13,507]

@Illiad Easle

Also Spoilers that will not be learned by anyone if i didnt say it.

The reason why onyx's corpse is there was there is, not only because apple bloom was bugged and they know your location. Is because She wanted your help. Because..... Well you've seen what the drawing i made shows....

[Illiad Easle 3,145]

@Evil Pink One

So, Apple Bloom knocking Fuoco out, I'm assuming blunt force trauma? Like she hit her over the head to knock her out? Otherwise, how did she do it?

[Evil Pink One 13,507]

You know how spy movies tap you in the shoulder? Like that. Hiya! But of course its much more cooler on how apple bloom does it... And it just puts fuoco to sleep

Or a jab on the stomach perhaps.. but thats more painful and i dont think apple bloom would do that too fuoco. Probably the painless one....

Although im not sure which one is painful since i havent tried it.

[Illiad Easle 3,145]

Alright then, I'll respond accordingly.

[Illiad Easle 3,145]

@Evil Pink One

How is Blu's dream being invaded while he's wearing the cloak that blocks all magic?

Further, how was Alpha able to track him when he's wearing both the cloak that blocks magic and the ring that makes him undetectable as an odt?

Also, per Fuoco, all she's going to ask white is to answer her question, so if you want to just add his answer to your last post that would work.

[Evil Pink One 13,507]

3 hours ago, Illiad Easle said:

@Evil Pink One

How is Blu's dream being invaded while he's wearing the cloak that blocks all magic?

Further, how was Alpha able to track him when he's wearing both the cloak that blocks magic and the ring that makes him undetectable as an odt?

Also, per Fuoco, all she's going to ask white is to answer her question, so if you want to just add his answer to your last post that would work.

First off all.... Are dreams magic? Remember there is no such thing as magic in our world... That is for now. Yet we have dreams... So for now dreams are not magic in our comprehension and as gods of this story i suppose we can deem it that dreams are not magic here. But of course we share this world.

Although luna does magic on dreams.but the thing about anti magic is if it directly hits you it blocks it. And if someone tries to detect you it cancels it. If an area of attack happens then the cloak absorbs it.

Hence youd have an idea where someone is because theres a spot where you attacked that is emptied out or visibly see a spot where your magic is not working.

Now about the dream magic.

Hmmm

So luna talked about the dream realm and waking realm. Or was it world?

In that sentence can we consider the dream and waking realm magic? Then tirek should be able to absorb both then? Or the changeling hive made a void in its existance. Hence them being a blackhole of some sort.

Then we can say that those realms are not magic but another place.

Also dreams are our imagination and in our brains. Hence if that was able to be absorbed then the victims can be easily brain dead. Or just another part that could be magic, but still could affect the brain....hmmm

Anyway i think its agreeable that the dream realm is just another realm.

And the demon is on the dream realm wandering around or using magic there. The cloak is not on the dream realm.

Hence your only way to fight the dream is to be stronger than the nightmare... Hence why big mac became an alicorn and derpy became a giant.

 

Now about how they found you...

They didn't thats why Blu is still alive. Also thats why the demon is waking you up so it can easily find you.  And why she is near because the demon knows where you are through the dream. But of course not accurate.

Because before you dream you have the recollection on your location. The demon knows about everyones past by looking at them. Hence she has a vague knowledge of where you are. She knows which direction you went, that you climbed a tree and sleep atop of it.

Hence you must be somewhere here.

 

But you ask why now?

Remember she comes and goes. But now they were able to stitch each other and is slowly getting back their strength.

Also it traveling through dreams has its limits.

She cannot just go to your dreams willy nilly. There are limits i placed. For example she needs to be near, hence "knows where you are" like if you're in ponyville or at that village or at the abandoned tower.

So you have beta to thank for that.

What do you think? Is that acceptable or fair? Or did i mess something up?🤔

As much as possible i want it to be real in a way.

 

 

 

[Illiad Easle 3,145]

@StrawberryMilk Simp

I go into deep detail below but I'm running on little sleep so I don't know if it holds water.

Short version: The magical cloak reasonably prevents dream tampering by blocking Blu from entering the dream realm. Most likely outcome is that he does not dream while wearing the cloak.

As the dream is inaccessible, they cannot divine his location from his memories (Which even if he were connected is a real stretch, unless he was actively dreaming about getting to where he was.)

So they only know that he's not at the tower, so must have fled to the woods, at an ever increasing radius of distance the longer they take to start looking, and the longer they take to search.

Depending on how they go about trying to find him, it might make their search easier or harder. More information is needed.

 

 

Long version:

Your argument is tenuous, and strongly relies on weak conjecture.

1 hour ago, Evil Pink One said:

First off all.... Are dreams magic?

No, they are not.

1 hour ago, Evil Pink One said:

Although luna does magic on dreams.

Correct, magic is necessary in order to access the dreams of another, just like mind reading.

1 hour ago, Evil Pink One said:

Hence youd have an idea where someone is because theres a spot where you attacked that is emptied out or visibly see a spot where your magic is not working.

True, but that spot will be small compared to the size of the area you'd have to search. Further, depending on how you search, it may not be visible. For example: sonar. An absorption of a sonar wave will appear identical to a wave that hit nothing.

1 hour ago, Evil Pink One said:

So luna talked about the dream realm and waking realm. Or was it world?

One could suppose that a realm exists through which dreams can be accessed, but one would also need to suppose that magic facilitates that connection. If that connection is blocked, then the dream would be inaccessible.

1 hour ago, Evil Pink One said:

Then we can say that those realms are not magic but another place.

False. There is insufficient evidence to support that assertion. Tirek could well have been able to absorb dream magic, and changeling hives could be safe from having their dreams invaded.

1 hour ago, Evil Pink One said:

Also dreams are our imagination and in our brains. Hence if that was able to be absorbed then the victims can be easily brain dead. Or just another part that could be magic, but still could affect the brain....hmmm

Again, false. You conflate the dream with the realm. We know that dreams exist without magic. Therefore the magic involved is not in the creature experiencing the dream. The absorption could be the connection between the dreamer and the realm, but there is no reason to assume anything further than that.

Further, if the dream is magic, then it would be absorbed by the cloak. Or if a connection to the dream realm is necessary, that too would be magical, and blocked by the cloak.

1 hour ago, Evil Pink One said:

Anyway i think its agreeable that the dream realm is just another realm.

Sure, a realm that creatures are connected to while they sleep via magic.

1 hour ago, Evil Pink One said:

And the demon is on the dream realm wandering around or using magic there.

Fair enough.

1 hour ago, Evil Pink One said:

The cloak is not on the dream realm.

True, but neither is Blu. There must exist some path between Blu and the realm in order to establish a connection, and if that path is magical, as is asserted, then the cloak blocks it.

1 hour ago, Evil Pink One said:

Because before you dream you have the recollection on your location.

False. Blu does not know where he is, nor did he pay attention to how he got here. He specifically left in such a manner to make retracing his steps difficult. You can't get Blu's location because he doesn't know where he is.

Further, lets look at search area. Lets say that he's about 1 mile away from the tower. That means a search area of 3.14 square miles, That assumes that they know how long he was walking before he stopped, given that is highly unlikely, every 15 minutes that passed increases the search radius by 1 mile. So if they started searching 30 minutes after he left, the search area is now 12 square miles. 45 minutes: 27 square miles. 1 hour: 48 square miles. And that doesn't include the time it takes to search the area. The wider the area, the more time it takes to search, the more the area grows during the search. Making it even less likely that Alpha would be in visual range considering:
1. Blu is not at the top of a tree, greatly limiting his sight distance.

2. The tree cover in the Everfree is canonically dense enough that it is dark during the day.

This second point also makes searching for him via pollen drop less effective, as the tree cover will block most of it anyway.

 

1 hour ago, Evil Pink One said:

She knows which direction you went, that you climbed a tree and sleep atop of it.

She only knows that Blu went into the forest. Blu himself can't guarantee that he traveled in a straight line. So while knowing the entry point will limit the search space, he's still somewhere in the forest. A forest notorious for creatures getting lost in. And again, he didn't sleep on top of a tree, that wouldn't make sense anyway. He'd sleep high enough to not be visible from the ground, while also low enough to not be visible from above due to the foliage. Where monkeys and sloths tend to hang out for safety.

 

1 hour ago, Evil Pink One said:

For example she needs to be near

That directly contradicts your earlier point about the dream realm being separate. going more align with my point that it is an overlapping space one must connect to. 

[Evil Pink One 13,507]

44 minutes ago, Illiad Easle said:

@StrawberryMilk Simp

I go into deep detail below but I'm running on little sleep so I don't know if it holds water.

Short version: The magical cloak reasonably prevents dream tampering by blocking Blu from entering the dream realm. Most likely outcome is that he does not dream while wearing the cloak.

As the dream is inaccessible, they cannot divine his location from his memories (Which even if he were connected is a real stretch, unless he was actively dreaming about getting to where he was.)

So they only know that he's not at the tower, so must have fled to the woods, at an ever increasing radius of distance the longer they take to start looking, and the longer they take to search.

Depending on how they go about trying to find him, it might make their search easier or harder. More information is needed.

 

 

Long version:

Your argument is tenuous, and strongly relies on weak conjecture.

No, they are not.

Correct, magic is necessary in order to access the dreams of another, just like mind reading.

True, but that spot will be small compared to the size of the area you'd have to search. Further, depending on how you search, it may not be visible. For example: sonar. An absorption of a sonar wave will appear identical to a wave that hit nothing.

One could suppose that a realm exists through which dreams can be accessed, but one would also need to suppose that magic facilitates that connection. If that connection is blocked, then the dream would be inaccessible.

False. There is insufficient evidence to support that assertion. Tirek could well have been able to absorb dream magic, and changeling hives could be safe from having their dreams invaded.

Again, false. You conflate the dream with the realm. We know that dreams exist without magic. Therefore the magic involved is not in the creature experiencing the dream. The absorption could be the connection between the dreamer and the realm, but there is no reason to assume anything further than that.

Further, if the dream is magic, then it would be absorbed by the cloak. Or if a connection to the dream realm is necessary, that too would be magical, and blocked by the cloak.

Sure, a realm that creatures are connected to while they sleep via magic.

Fair enough.

True, but neither is Blu. There must exist some path between Blu and the realm in order to establish a connection, and if that path is magical, as is asserted, then the cloak blocks it.

False. Blu does not know where he is, nor did he pay attention to how he got here. He specifically left in such a manner to make retracing his steps difficult. You can't get Blu's location because he doesn't know where he is.

Further, lets look at search area. Lets say that he's about 1 mile away from the tower. That means a search area of 3.14 square miles, That assumes that they know how long he was walking before he stopped, given that is highly unlikely, every 15 minutes that passed increases the search radius by 1 mile. So if they started searching 30 minutes after he left, the search area is now 12 square miles. 45 minutes: 27 square miles. 1 hour: 48 square miles. And that doesn't include the time it takes to search the area. The wider the area, the more time it takes to search, the more the area grows during the search. Making it even less likely that Alpha would be in visual range considering:
1. Blu is not at the top of a tree, greatly limiting his sight distance.

2. The tree cover in the Everfree is canonically dense enough that it is dark during the day.

This second point also makes searching for him via pollen drop less effective, as the tree cover will block most of it anyway.

 

She only knows that Blu went into the forest. Blu himself can't guarantee that he traveled in a straight line. So while knowing the entry point will limit the search space, he's still somewhere in the forest. A forest notorious for creatures getting lost in. And again, he didn't sleep on top of a tree, that wouldn't make sense anyway. He'd sleep high enough to not be visible from the ground, while also low enough to not be visible from above due to the foliage. Where monkeys and sloths tend to hang out for safety.

 

That directly contradicts your earlier point about the dream realm being separate. going more align with my point that it is an overlapping space one must connect to. 

Please sleep then. And message me again when you're good. If you are okay with what you have said. Ill give this a good read and post my thoughts and changes. No need to reply asap.

[Evil Pink One 13,507]

2 hours ago, Illiad Easle said:

The magical cloak reasonably prevents dream tampering by blocking Blu from entering the dream realm.

You say we enter the dream realm through magic... But in reality we don't. But maybe in equestria we do? But earth ponies dont have any magic for that probably? And even so the other animals there do not have magic yet they enter the dream realm.

So i dont think the cloak would prevent that. Plus i think we only focused for the cloak to not detect you with magic. Not protect you from it.

The goal of the cloak to begin with was so magical creatures wouldn't find you easily with magic. Not be able to fully protect you say a fire ball or laser.

We made sure that the cloak wasnt strong enough to block magic because your weapons( most of it) rely on magic. 

The cloak wasnt suppose to be THAT strong. I'm a forgetful person but i remember something something with starlight glimmer and about this cloak or was it Alpha. Talking about the cloak that can avoid your detection through magic but not enough to hinder your magic.

( More thoughts to come)

 

Edited January 16, 2024 by Evil Pink One

[Illiad Easle 3,145]

@Evil Pink One

On 2024-01-15 at 5:27 PM, Evil Pink One said:

You say we enter the dream realm through magic... But in reality we don't.

In reality we don't enter a dream realm. We only dream inside our minds. Thus for ponies to enter a realm where dreams are, there must be magic involved.

On 2024-01-15 at 5:27 PM, Evil Pink One said:

But earth ponies dont have any magic for that probably?

Also false, we've stated in this very story that all creatures have magic in them, the difference is in how that magic is expressed and the nodes available to them. Tirek could not have absorbed the earth pony magic if earth ponies didn't have magic after all.

So it makes more sense to say that the dream realm is a place accessed by magic.

 

On 2024-01-15 at 5:27 PM, Evil Pink One said:

Plus i think we only focused for the cloak to not detect you with magic. Not protect you from it.

On 2023-06-30 at 9:27 AM, Evil Pink One said:

The only thing i could think of is the changeling robe. Not only would it hide your magic, it'll also absorb all non-changeling magic. That means yours too."

Per your own words, it absorbs all magic. Blu is unable to use his large rifle while wearing the robe, so he has to choose between being hidden and being able to do heavy damage.

@Evil Pink One

Also, I should put out there, Blu is exceptionally capable on the mental front. In a sense it is where he would be strongest given the limitations of his physical form. So fighting him in the dream realm would not go well for the enemy. It might be in their best interest not to try too hard to find him that way.

Further, Blu has seen what those infected are capable of. Given everything he fears about himself, and his own knowledge, he'd sooner destroy his rifle, the Kernel, and kill himself, before allowing himself to become infected. He is hesitant to do this though, so long as he can see a way to escape he won't give up. But if his capture appears inevitable...

[Evil Pink One 13,507]

1 hour ago, Illiad Easle said:

reality we don't enter a dream realm. We only dream inside our minds. Thus for ponies to enter a realm where dreams are, there must be magic involved

Agreed....hmm wait.... Sorry i think i based the dream demon to another player before... She wasnt originally your opponent.

The dream demon can be repelled bydream catching equipment and salt and anti demon possesion and what not, which i didnt associate with magic per say hence me disregarding about magic on her. Also now that i have a clearer view on things you do have a point.

1 hour ago, Illiad Easle said:

Per your own words, it absorbs all magic. Blu is unable to use his large rifle while wearing the robe, so he has to choose between being hidden and being able to do heavy damage.

Ah! .... Starlight glimmer explained that yup. My bad.

 

[Evil Pink One 13,507]

On 2024-01-16 at 6:24 AM, Illiad Easle said:

Correct, magic is necessary in order to access the dreams of another, just like mind reading.

 

On 2024-01-16 at 6:24 AM, Illiad Easle said:

, but that spot will be small compared to the size of the area you'd have to search. Further, depending on how you search, it may not be visible. For example: sonar. An absorption of a sonar wave will appear identical to a wave that hit nothing.

The search magic would most likey not be sonar which needs to bounce back etc. the caster would feel that her magic is being absorbed at that point. Hence something somewhere there is absorbing her magic like theres a whirl pool. Should we base dream magic or brainwashing with waves though? Cuz thats how shed probably try to detect find you and enter ones dream... So probably static base or electricity, since that's what's there in our mind and active when dreaming.

So maybe shes releasing static to sense someone out there? And if theres a sudden drop or weakness of static that would make it odd. Hence they are trying to find you... And Blu can still sleep.

So can we agree that you wont have the nightmare. Alpha and the pollenator is out there trying to find you.

If not they'll end up going to fuoco. I mean thats what i think the enemies next plan would be.

On 2024-01-16 at 6:24 AM, Illiad Easle said:

That directly contradicts your earlier point about the dream realm being separate. going more align with my point that it is an overlapping space one must connect to. 

I was at the point that maybe im making her OP and was maybe overdoing it....

Also when i meant near... Near as per say on the dream realm where she wonders.

I wasnt specifically saying in the waking realm that the demon needs to be near but in the dream realm. But id agree about requiring magic to traverse through other dreams. So when in some way it goes near your territory. Shed be blocked the same way the dream catcher or salt did to her.

Then shed have a good guess where you are? 

Thats agreeable right?

[Evil Pink One 13,507]

Oh! And whatever i didnt react to i totally agree or surely 70% convinced on.

[Illiad Easle 3,145]

@Evil Pink One

On 2024-01-16 at 9:18 PM, Evil Pink One said:

the caster would feel that her magic is being absorbed

That would imply an active magical connection, like trying to grab something or a spell that needs to maintain contact in order to be fully cast, which I imagine would require a substantial amount of power in order to search an area spanning several square miles.

I think it makes more sense that Alpha and the pollinator are looking for him, Alpha looing in specific places and the pollinator doing a blanket sweep, but due to how the pollinator's search works: blanketing an area with the particles, it allows Blu to slip through undetected for now.

And it makes sense that they wouldn't be trying too hard to find him at the moment, because his involvement has been minimal up until this point compared to Alpha who they already have. He's alone and without support, they can (at least in their mind) afford to wait for him to appear again while they face more clearly dangerous opponents like Fuoco.

On 2024-01-16 at 9:18 PM, Evil Pink One said:

So when in some way it goes near your territory. Shed be blocked the same way the dream catcher or salt did to her.

I'd say that Blu simply would not appear in the dream realm the same as he would if he were awake. So if the enemy looked there and didn't find him they would likely assume he was still awake and moving.

I like that idea better, as it means they'll be searching much further out given how long they thing he's been traveling without rest, allowing him to go undetected and take some time to recuperate.

 

Which is something that Blu really needs right now: to see that something he did actually worked without immediately being taken away from him. If I recall correctly almost every achievement he's made thus far has been almost immediately reversed. Working backwards from this moment:

1. He sent off the warning, Alpha turned feral and he was forced to run.
2. He found the way to the tower, the tower got attacked.
3. He shot the alicorn, the whole area got destroyed.

I wouldn't be surprised if there were more examples in addition to these, but the point is that he's gone a while without a true win, which is wearing down on him especially considering he doesn't have a strong motivation to continue. Even those around him don't seem to appreciate his efforts, so if things get much harder he may just give up.

[Evil Pink One 13,507]

7 hours ago, Illiad Easle said:

think it makes more sense that Alpha and the pollinator are looking for him, Alpha looking in specific places and the pollinator doing a blanket sweep, but due to how the pollinator's search works: blanketing an area with the particles, it allows Blu to slip through undetected for now.

Oh... Hmm the pollinator doesnt use the pollen to detect. Theres a reason why it is always staying above Alpha. It will never split with her.

7 hours ago, Illiad Easle said:

it makes sense that they wouldn't be trying too hard to find him at the moment, because his involvement has been minimal up until this point compared to Alpha who they already have. He's alone and without support, they can (at least in their mind) afford to wait for him to appear again while they face more clearly dangerous opponents like Fuoco.

Blu is the only one who has done significant damage to 3 villains.

He is considered a hero by non smile agents. 

You shot the dragon the giant bear, the infection, Alpha, the 2 demons. 

 

Im sure for someone who is a young pony. He did more than anyone in this war.

Secretly Blu is top on the list or probably top5 Fuoco somewhere at the top 20.

Plus even if the mastermind wouldn't mind you. The ones you shot would take you personally.

Also i thought that maybe things are getting too easy for you since the once you are beating up are like high tier and walls to block you or have something to be tense about?

7 hours ago, Illiad Easle said:

Which is something that Blu really needs right now: to see that something he did actually worked without immediately being taken away from him. If I recall correctly almost every achievement he's made thus far has been almost immediately reversed. Working backwards from this moment:

Well hmmm.... I didn't mean to discourage you... I thought youd like your villain to act.... Accordingly? I mean would you like me to lower the bar?

Because ... I mean. This wouldn't have happened if blu didn't gave away beta?

Hmmm.... I mean if someone shot you in the head( youd be dead) youd try to kill the person too right? Plus you shooting inside the portal cut the dream demon in half resulting in Alpha getting away and end up rescuing Cozy and Shallow.

Also the pollenator is just there for the taking. I was a bit shocked that you didnt shoot it.railgun or pistol. I mean you have unlimited ( "practically")bullets.

I didnt expect it to wind up like this too XD.

I didn't mean this to become difficult.

Hence why shallow was able to tackle Alpha, Cozy dazed somewhere inside. The pollenator stagnant above the building. 

I thought youd shoot it and that'd be it.

Alpha would now be more convinced of Beta's betrayal. And the next day you guys would go north to confront beta. End up meeting with Apple bloom. Explore the lore between the fall of the crusaders. And hopefully have a good ending.

( depending on what Fuoco would do they might end up meeting?)

I actually panicked that you didn't shoot the thing .... Was it too creepy....

Seeing Blu doing bad ass stuff made me expect that hed just shoot the thing.

[Illiad Easle 3,145]

@Evil Pink One

I guess we have very different viewpoints as to what Blu has actually done. I can only see things through his perspective so I had no way of knowing how much damage he actually did, given he was never privy to it.

10 minutes ago, Evil Pink One said:

You shot the dragon

Blu hardly did much damage to it, Shamrock doing more and Fuoco ultimately killing it.

14 minutes ago, Evil Pink One said:

the giant bear,

Alpha did the killing blow, much to Blu's annoyance.

15 minutes ago, Evil Pink One said:

the infection

I hardly think that was very impressive.

15 minutes ago, Evil Pink One said:

Alpha

Yeah, that one's fair.

16 minutes ago, Evil Pink One said:

the 2 demons. 

Blu saw the headshot, but given the body was not recovered and he didn't see what damage he did through the portal, so he had no confirmation that he had accomplished anything there, plus the whole area got destroyed in response.

 

So despite the actual damage dealt, Blu doesn't see that he's done much, and ultimately he's alone by himself so he doesn't have much to show for what he's done.

1 hour ago, Evil Pink One said:

Also the pollenator is just there for the taking. I was a bit shocked that you didnt shoot it.railgun or pistol.

On 2024-01-14 at 7:28 PM, Evil Pink One said:

And above. A floating amalgamation of a ball of purple flesh with a big mouth and wings vomiting the pollens.

You see, I imagined something massive, like Majora's mask moon big, something large enough that shooting at it would only give away his position without actually downing it. I also thought it was an obvious trap, like the bullet would pass harmlessly through it and he would be spotted immediately.

That's why you should give size references when you describe things, because if it were described as the size of a pony or thereabouts, Blu would have shot at it. But given the size I pictured, combined with Blu not having seen much success himself, that's why he decided to run instead.

Plus, the thing could have exploded and sent the pollen everywhere if he did shoot it.

So the question then is: How big is the pollinator really? And if it is small enough, do you want to step back to correct the scene with the new information?

 

1 hour ago, Evil Pink One said:

( depending on what Fuoco would do they might end up meeting?)

Fuoco is furious at Apple's betrayal. It will take passing quite the speech check to save Applebloom from Fuoco.

Also, didn't Beta tell Applebloom to take the survivors to the crystal empire? Why is Applebloom allowing the survivors to still go there despite knowing that it might be a trap?

[Evil Pink One 13,507]

2 hours ago, Illiad Easle said:

see, I imagined something massive, like Majora's mask moon big, something large enough that shooting at it would only give away his position without actually downing it. I also thought it was an obvious trap, like the bullet would pass harmlessly through it and he would be spotted immediately.

That's why you should give size references when you describe things, because if it were described as the size of a pony or thereabouts, Blu would have shot at it. But given the size I pictured, combined with Blu not having seen much success himself, that's why he decided to run instead.

Plus, the thing could have exploded and sent the pollen everywhere if he did shoot it.

So the question then is: How big is the pollinator really? And if it is small enough, do you want to step back to correct the scene with the new information?

🤔 .... True.... I did say ball at that point hence i considered it not to be that big as balls may take different shapes and sizes... I would've only pictured it maybe as big as a human. But then again, that is still my fault on not giving details and being specific.

Godangit i got excited again and rushed on typing.

2 hours ago, Illiad Easle said:

, didn't Beta tell Applebloom to take the survivors to the crystal empire? Why is Applebloom allowing the survivors to still go there despite knowing that it might be a trap?

I think beta wanted everyone to go to the crystal empire branch of smile. It is near the crystal empire. Unless i made an error again

Sorry about that. Im making a lot of errors again.

 

[Illiad Easle 3,145]

@Evil Pink One

19 hours ago, Evil Pink One said:

I think beta wanted everyone to go to the crystal empire branch of smile. It is near the crystal empire.

Looking back, that is what was said. Still, it doesn't seem wise to send a bunch of civilians in the direction of what could be a fortified enemy base. Especially if it calls into question whether the crystal empire is still standing or not.

 

Regardless, now that I think we've clarified the situation on Blu's side, how do we proceed from here?

We already dropped the dream, but that could be irrelevant if you want to step back and have Blu shoot the ball instead of running off. If you don't want to step it back, we can have Blu shoot it now with the explanation that being up in the tree gives him a better angle to better see how small it actually is and take it out now.

In either case, you can step the Fuoco story a bit further by having White answer her stated question: "What happened?" Fuoco is asking what has happened between when Applebloom knocked her out and her waking up now.

[Evil Pink One 13,507]

5 minutes ago, Illiad Easle said:

Looking back, that is what was said. Still, it doesn't seem wise to send a bunch of civilians in the direction of what could be a fortified enemy base. Especially if it calls into question whether the crystal empire is still standing or not.

Yup and thats why apple bloom had doubts she did say maybe. And also doubted that it could still be trapped. She is lost too... She doesnt know who to trust. Those are the cmc. Imagine how heart broken they are hehehe.... Ahmm wouldn't that be a devastating story to tell?

Yup is the crystal empire still standing? Hmmm.

Spoiler

Beta and the crystal empire is still in a stalemate. Hence beta wanting you to come to them and mind control you. Also the reason why beta cant go to you because she is busy with the crystal empire. While the chimera demons who just successfully finished ponyville plans to go north but instead want blu now. ( he is quite the charmer.) 

 

 

13 minutes ago, Illiad Easle said:

Regardless, now that I think we've clarified the situation on Blu's side, how do we proceed from here?

We already dropped the dream, but that could be irrelevant if you want to step back and have Blu shoot the ball instead of running off. If you don't want to step it back, we can have Blu shoot it now with the explanation that being up in the tree gives him a better angle to better see how small it actually is and take it out now.

In either case, you can step the Fuoco story a bit further by having White answer her stated question: "What happened?" Fuoco is asking what has happened between when Applebloom knocked her out and her waking up now.

Lets have blu rest and shoot the ball in the morning. 

About fuoco. Then I'll considered that Fuoco calmed down a bit right? Cuz she did make a big mess luckily blocked some of it.

Should i start or wait for your reply?

[Illiad Easle 3,145]

@Evil Pink One

12 minutes ago, Evil Pink One said:

Then I'll considered that Fuoco calmed down a bit right? Cuz she did make a big mess luckily blocked some of it.

I should clarify that too.

Fuoco did NOT drain the creatures around her, she simply used her emotions in the song to make it more powerful, rejuvenating her while causing those who heard the song to be chilled by her purging her fear.

Those nearby are fearful, both from the unease Fuoco was radiating while unconscious, and because she pushed her fear out onto them when she rejuvenated herself, but she did not drain them.

(In terms of energy, she did a mana to health conversion and used emotions to boost the exchange rate, with the side effect of some emotions seeping into the song and being spread to the rest.)

Per what to do, You can edit your post to remove the dream incursion and add the answer to Fuoco's question. Then I'll post as normal.

[Evil Pink One 13,507]

Aaaand done. Although i havent given the answer yet. Fuoco i mean 

I want to slow down a bit fuoco because originally fuoco is one day ahead of Blu. But now you guys arent so i wont try to delay fuoco now.

Edited January 21, 2024 by Evil Pink One