mega thread Everypony's Religion And Why?

[Adachi 772]

I was Christian, then turned non traditional Christian (IE not following certain laws, such as the law against witchcraft, since I believe the church added that just because they're over sensitive and hate magick), and now, I'm considering following either the Celtic pantheon or Norse pantheon. The Norse dieties  are the most noble I think, all but one of them are gonna go down fighting for us all during Ragnarok, and until then, they're pretty carefree and they don't demand tribute or worship, only for man to do what's right.

 

Or maybe I'll go with the Equestrian religion, I'm sure enough people have imagined Princess Celestia to have imagined her into existence by now

 

All hail the Solar Empire 

[Guest]

I always strive to review and evaluate alternative evidence should it present itself. I doff my hat to you, sir and wish you well in the future. Perhaps we can spar again sometime.

Ah, I never thought of Transhumanism as a religion. I do think eventually, we will be able to augment humans beyond their natural limitations. However, I do think cybernetic immortality and direct cerebral interface with computers are further off than I wish they were. One day we will prove William Gibson right, just not a day anytime soon.

Well considering a lab grew artificial brain matter that can fly a plane in a simulator I wouldn't be so quick to assume. Also I'm pretty sure that our brains work on a very similar system to moder computer's binary machine code.

[Taviscratch 453]

Well considering a lab grew artificial brain matter that can fly a plane in a simulator I wouldn't be so quick to assume.

Really? That is pretty awesome. I didn't think an experiment like that would even be allowed. Do you have a link to the journal?

[Guest]

Really? That is pretty awesome. I didn't think an experiment like that would even be allowed. Do you have a link to the journal?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cU1-YFbAifA

 

It's in that documentary somewhere. The entire thing is worth the watch. It does a pretty in depth view into Transhumanism and how everything is falling into place. My jaw was dropped at the end of it, and I am not exactly new to the concept.

 

 

Edited April 3, 2014 by xzeno

[Diamondeye83 49]

I am episcopalian. I, however, don't especially believe that someone is out there that will smite you if you're bad. I do believe, quite intensely, that the moral values in the bible are at least a solid start to getting humans on the morally straight and narrow. Voltaire, a french philosipher, actually made a bible with the miracles cut out, but the lessons remained. I believe that this is an extremely helpful thing. So I guess that makes me a Deist. Hm.

[Sky Warden 2,243]

I'm sorry but this is just making me cringe. You speak of how religions are good and it's only men who do bad deeds. Upon @Dddrgn pointing out that some of these deeds are indeed endorsed by religions, you try turning that around to your argument by saying that men edited the religious texts to say such a thing so that they could further their personal desires. There is a problem with this, however, as all religions were invented by man. Everything religious was created by people's imagination. You seem to think religions spontaneously erupt from nowhere, that they are initially superb and perfect until man comes along and rewrites it.

 

You preach logic but I only see @Dddrgn and using it here.

 

Oh really? I'm sorry. I'm not a master of logic, so let's use the most basic ones for now.

 

There's men. There are good men and bad men. Okay, get it? Then let's continue.

 

Good people (Jesus, Muhammad, Buddha, etc) made religions were made to guide morality. Can you interpret those words? If you can, let's continue.

 

Bad men do bad things, using religions as their mask. That. Get it?

 

Now, give me a good reason why should I despise religions, which are good things, instead of dumbfucks, who did all the shits?

 

From reading your other posts, I've come to a conclusion that you're just one of those guys who completely miss the point of religions, don't understand about era or figurative language, and despise people just because they were born centuries before your more-scientifically-advanced-grandpa-who-got-his-knowledge-from-the-tireless-work-of-less-scientifically-advanced-people told you about the moon. Sorry, that's a bit more complicated sentence, but it's valid. I hope you can read it.

[Taviscratch 453]

Oh really? I'm sorry. I'm not a master of logic, so let's use the most basic ones for now.

 

There's men. There are good men and bad men. Okay, get it? Then let's continue.

 

Good people (Jesus, Muhammad, Buddha, etc) made religions were made to guide morality. Can you interpret those words? If you can, let's continue.

 

Bad men do bad things, using religions as their mask. That. Get it?

 

Now, give me a good reason why should I despise religions, which are good things, instead of dumbfucks, who did all the shits?

 

From reading your other posts, I've come to a conclusion that you're just one of those guys who completely miss the point of religions, don't understand about era or figurative language, and despise people just because they were born centuries before your more-scientifically-advanced-grandpa-who-got-his-knowledge-from-the-tireless-work-of-less-scientifically-advanced-people told you about the moon. Sorry, that's a bit more complicated sentence, but it's valid. I hope you can read it.

I see your religious beliefs, whatever they may be (and, frankly, I don't care) has indeed made you such a wonderful person. I need no religion to live a good life. Instead I live by these two guidelines:

1. Attempt to know more about the universe today than you did yesterday
2. Try not to be a cunt

You may find just these two notions will get you far in life instead of using reductionist reasoning and aggressive stances in your arguments while and to confuse people with what you seemingly think is complex language (which just isn't working). You're obviously either a troll or an arsehole; either way, I have no more time to waste on you. Now begone.

Edited April 4, 2014 by Taviscratch

[Adachi 772]

I see your religious beliefs, whatever they may be (and, frankly, I don't care) has indeed made you such a wonderful person. I need no religion to live a good life. Instead I live by these two guidelines:

1. Attempt to know more about the universe today than you did yesterday
2. Try not to be a cunt

You may find just these two notions will get you far in life instead of using reductionist reasoning and aggressive stances in your arguments while and to confuse people with what you seemingly think is complex language (which just isn't working). You're obviously either a troll or an arsehole; either way, I have no more time to waste on you. Now begone.

I'm inclined to agree with you. However, many pagans have claimed that they were contacted by dieties. Whether these are actual dieties, or demons trying to trick them, who knows? But I'm not entirely ready to dismiss religion yet. Also, I doubt the ancient Egyptians had all of those pyramids built just for vanity. They really believed in their gods and goddesses. And what about the ancient greek temples, statues, lore, etc? They had to have had a reason for creating all that, other than making a wonderful tale of how the world was made. There had to be genuine belief in those dieties for them to devote that much time, energy, resources, and money into all of that.

[Sky Warden 2,243]

I see your religious beliefs, whatever they may be (and, frankly, I don't care) has indeed made you such a wonderful person. I need no religion to live a good life. Instead I live by these two guidelines:

1. Attempt to know more about the universe today than you did yesterday
2. Try not to be a cunt

You may find just these two notions will get you far in life instead of using reductionist reasoning and aggressive stances in your arguments while and to confuse people with what you seemingly think is complex language (which just isn't working). You're obviously either a troll or an arsehole; either way, I have no more time to waste on you. Now begone.

 

 

I'm trolling or anything. At first, I just stated about how I don't like intelligent atheists despise religions, and then one of them came out and started and argument with me. I've stated most of my points, but they just keep coming and they don't even seem to even read my posts. They keep making the same arguments over and over, which I've actually answered. I'm just too tired to explain to them again, because I believe they can read and make a valid point.

[Taviscratch 453]

I'm inclined to agree with you. However, many pagans have claimed that they were contacted by dieties. Whether these are actual dieties, or demons trying to trick them, who knows? But I'm not entirely ready to dismiss religion yet. Also, I doubt the ancient Egyptians had all of those pyramids built just for vanity. They really believed in their gods and goddesses. And what about the ancient greek temples, statues, lore, etc? They had to have had a reason for creating all that, other than making a wonderful tale of how the world was made. There had to be genuine belief in those dieties for them to devote that much time, energy, resources, and money into all of that.

I'm not suggesting that people didn't genuinely believe in their gods...and they still do! I do believe that, to religious people, their religion is real to them. As Seneca the Younger (arguably) said: "Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by rulers as useful."

I'm trolling or anything. At first, I just stated about how I don't like intelligent atheists despise religions, and then one of them came out and started and argument with me. I've stated most of my points, but they just keep coming and they don't even seem to even read my posts. They keep making the same arguments over and over, which I've actually answered. I'm just too tired to explain to them again, because I believe they can read and make a valid point.

Thank God! (the irony is not wasted on me) For a short while I was rather afraid you weren't a troll at all.

Thank you for not being completely serious.

[The Cynical Lone Wolf 615]

Simple. Just post in your religion. If its not included, quote this post and tell me what it is. I'll add it.

 

Discussion Time Everypony!

 

 

Whovanism- The religion in which someone follows the messages and ethics portrayed in the TV show Doctor Who

That is my religion because I fell Doctor Who guides my ethics and beliefs upon humanity everyday

Edited April 4, 2014 by COBLoneWolf

[Sky Warden 2,243]

You seem to miss my p o s t s.

 

 

Doesn't matter. I'm used to people like this. Well, perhaps I also missed your posts which contributed to the debate, because I only saw one which is debate-worthy. That is, if you made any other, of course.

Edited April 4, 2014 by SkyBound

[CosmicHooves 2,705]

Oh yeah.

I'm a Christian.

 

I believe:

 

1. Every beginning had a beginner.

2. Every design had a designer.

3. Every moral law has moral law giver.

 

Here's some questions I pose to some people:

 

1. Which came first? Time, Space, Matter or energy?

2.Where did the necessary materials to create the universe come from and

where did they exist if there was no space?

3. Where did life originally come from if it can not appear spontaneously?

4. Which came first? Male or Female?

5. Why do we find petrified trees standing up through supposedly “millions” of years worth of geological layers?

6. What were the first elements to be formed?

7. When and how did the stars come to be?

8. When did the laws of nature(i.e. Gravity) first come into effect?

9. Why is an unproven theory used as fact?

10. How did the universe start(please provide specified details)?

 

Ya I'm sure a number of you probably want to give out a long drawn out hypothesis for each of these questions, but I wouldn't bet my life on it cause if I was an atheist and there was a God I know for a fact that I would spend an eternity in hell.

It just isn't worth it to me.

If I am wrong about Creationism and Christianity and there is no God, then I would die with no regrets because I would just be dead.

Either way lose nothing.

Edited April 4, 2014 by Sugar Dash

[Adachi 772]

I just realized, Heathenism and Shamanism are missing from the list, although maybe one or both are covered by something else on the list, not sure on the exact terminology.

[Adachi 772]

I wonder what a religion based purely on light and love is called. Then again, it probably isn't a religion, since it doesn't involve worship of a diety. I guess the word I'm looking for is philosophy.

[Taviscratch 453]

Ya I'm sure a number of you probably want to give out a long drawn out hypothesis for each of these questions, but I wouldn't bet my life on it cause if I was an atheist and there was a God I know for a fact that I would spend an eternity in hell.

It just isn't worth it to me.

If I am wrong about Creationism and Christianity and there is no God, then I would die with no regrets because I would just be dead.

Either way lose nothing.

So you're just hedging your bets in case God is true? What if you're wrong about any other god in the history of the Earth and you're following the wrong one? In addition, I try to give a good life and when I die, if I'm wrong, I hope your god doesn't cast me into the eternal inferno of Hell merely for not believing in him after he has obviously gone through such great pains to conceal himself. That would be rather petty and immature; not at all what you'd expect from a god.

Edited April 4, 2014 by Taviscratch

[Adachi 772]

So you're just hedging your bets in case God is true? What if you're wrong about any other god in the history of the Earth and you're following the wrong one? In addition, I try to give a good life and when I die, if I'm wrong, I hope your god doesn't cast me into the eternal inferno of Hell merely for not believing in him after he has obviously gone through such great pains to conceal himself. That would be rather petty and immature; not at all what you'd expect from a god.

Yeah, I agree. Which is why I'm probably gonna be agnostic for a while. I have the light to guide me, wherever that light comes from makes no difference. We all meet the creator in the end.

[CosmicHooves 2,705]

So you're just hedging your bets in case God is true? What if you're wrong about any other god in the history of the Earth and you're following the wrong one? In addition, I try to give a good life and when I die, if I'm wrong, I hope your god doesn't cast me into the eternal inferno of Hell merely for not believing in him after he has obviously gone through such great pains to conceal himself. That would be rather petty and immature; not at all what you'd expect from a god.

Do you even know why he throws people into hell in the first place?

Because of sin.

No sin can enter into heaven.

Sin can only go to one place.

Hell.

He gave everyone a chance to either simply repent of their sins (which throughout your life the opertunity is given to you many times) or face the fires of hell.

I don't know about you, but I'm picking to repent.

Edited April 4, 2014 by Sugar Dash

[Felix 1,363]

Agnostic. I just don't want to follow or feel controlled by any belief, but nor do I want to disbelieve anything as certain things make me feel safe in ways.

[Taviscratch 453]

Do you even know why he throws people into hell in the first place?

Because of sin.

No sin can enter into heaven.

Sin can only go to one place.

Hell.

He gave everyone a chance to either simply repent of their sins (which throughout your life the opertunity is given to you many times) or face the fires of hell.

I don't know about you, but I'm picking to repent.

Well good luck with that. If Allah decides that, in his eyes, you have sinned then I guess we'll meet each other again in the Muslim version of hell (whatever that may be). I'm just going to go and enjoy my one and only life now. Good day to you, sir.

[Durandal 623]

So you're just hedging your bets in case God is true? What if you're wrong about any other god in the history of the Earth and you're following the wrong one? In addition, I try to give a good life and when I die, if I'm wrong, I hope your god doesn't cast me into the eternal inferno of Hell merely for not believing in him after he has obviously gone through such great pains to conceal himself. That would be rather petty and immature; not at all what you'd expect from a god.

 

That was way out of left field. Are you trying to pick fights now?

 

I don't know about you, but I'm picking to repent.

 

I have to admit, Tavi had a valid point. If you fall in line with a religion because you want to avoid punishment, you're really only raising your likelihood to be right by a miniscule amount - the amount of religions, both thriving and extinct, are of such a great number that it's pointless. You're betting on a single horse in a thousand-horse race and expecting somehow to luck out. Not to mention, that isn't the point of religion anyways.

 

Also, I'd like to note that 'the c word' is a fairly offensive word for justifiable reasons - particularly because it's ridiculously sexist. Even if the context doesn't support it, it's the same as calling someone 'the n word' - it's racist in and of itself, as a result of its connotations. And really, it's easy to avoid using it - asshole is a suitable replacement, with the added benefit of not rustling anyone's jimmies.

 

EDIT: To prevent further confusion, 'the c word' is 'cunt', and not 'christian'.

Edited April 4, 2014 by Durandal

[CosmicHooves 2,705]

That was way out of left field. Are you trying to pick fights now?

 

 

 

I have to admit, Tavi had a valid point. If you fall in line with a religion because you want to avoid punishment, you're really only raising your likelihood to be right by a miniscule amount - the amount of religions, both thriving and extinct, are of such a great number that it's pointless. You're betting on a single horse in a thousand-horse race and expecting somehow to luck out. Not to mention, that isn't the point of religion anyways.

Also, I'd like to note that 'the c word' is a fairly offensive word for justifiable reasons - particularly because it's ridiculously sexist. Even if the context doesn't support it, it's the same as calling someone 'the n word' - it's racist in and of itself, as a result of its connotations. And really, it's easy to avoid using it - asshole is a suitable replacement, with the added benefit of not rustling anyone's jimmies.

By the way, I just feel like this is the right religion.

I have stated my reasons why I choose this one over others.

Anyways, cya later I've gotta go.

Edited April 4, 2014 by Sugar Dash

[Taviscratch 453]

 That was way out of left field. Are you trying to pick fights now?

No, I'm not attempting to pick fights. I'm tired and crotchety and it's almost 5AM here. I should probably go to bed.

 

 Also, I'd like to note that 'the c word' is a fairly offensive word for justifiable reasons - particularly because it's ridiculously sexist. Even if the context doesn't support it, it's the same as calling someone 'the n word' - it's racist in and of itself, as a result of its connotations. And really, it's easy to avoid using it - asshole is a suitable replacement, with the added benefit of not rustling anyone's jimmies.

Really? I know "cunt" is a taboo word but I wouldn't say it's sexist. Mentioning female genitalia isn't in itself sexist. Hardly anyone would argue that calling someone a "dick" is sexist but its exactly the same. Cunt is arbitrarily taboo rather than any sexist implications.

 

The word Christian shouldn't be offensive to anyone.(if that's the "c" word you ment).

He means "cunt". I said it ages ago on this thread.

Edited April 4, 2014 by Taviscratch

[Sky Warden 2,243]

 That was way out of left field. Are you trying to pick fights now?

 

He doesn't understand religions or even figurative language and metaphor. Just leave him be. He doesn't want to listen to reasons, after all.

 

 with the added benefit of not rustling anyone's jimmies.

 

I will recommend them this book.

 

[Durandal 623]

 

 

He doesn't understand religions or even figurative language and metaphor. Just leave him be. He doesn't want to listen to reasons, after all.

 

I want to upvote your post for the latter half, but I'm not about to approve of anyone picking fights, which you're doing as we speak.

Edited April 4, 2014 by SkyBound