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Hi all. This article was posted in Equestria Daily's Nightly Roundup last night, and I thought that it was interesting enough to share with you all.

 

http://www.tor.com/blogs/2013/04/geek-love-on-the-matter-of-bronies

 

The writer makes some very interesting points about the matter, as do many of the people who commented on it. I do not agree with everything stated in this article, but I wanted to know what you guys thought of it before I throw in my two cents.

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I think that geek love when it comes to bronies, it really does not matter to me. We all have different opinions on bronies, and well I guess that a lot of people have arguments on what they think of bronies. So, I guess we all have different opinions.

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This. I agree with EVERYTHING this person is trying to portray.
People are far too focused on implied social boundaries. The show is much more than a girls' show, taken interest by men. We aren't "gay" or pedophiles by stereotype. We're just people who connect to the series and what it is teaching it's viewers.

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I read it today while browsing EQD and I have to admit there isn't barely anything new in this. It's a dissection to the very core of the brony fandom, and people already did that a hundred times, some failing pretty hard at it (BronyDoc).

What I mostly noticed what the writer of the article is pretty much oblivious to the actual feminist cause. He is talking about the bronies main demographic as being the first to be raised in a matriarcal society. It is wrong on so many levels to think that. The feminist cause has won it's share of fights in the last 30 years, but we are still in a male-dominated society.

That is also one of the reasons why there are so many male bronies and so few females bronies. Girls don't stand out as much as guys do, and in a show that has been targeted for young people with their gender, they don't make a big deal out of this as we do. Still, there are probably more females bronies than what was estimated with the latest Brony Herd Census.
 

Boys, raised by feminists to proceed as if those walls never existed. (Spoiler alert: They never did. We just took all this time to realize that.)

 

Those walls he is talking about might be a creation of society, they still do exist metaphorically. And you can not say that bronies are people who didn't see those walls. They did. They plowed through it. They are doing what feminists do: Break down the Walls of the Patriarcal Society that has forced them into second-class citizenship for so long.

 

I like the point of the view he brings, but he definitively missed the boat on several occasions on this one. Bring this to a guy that is an actual feminist non-brony and you will see a whole new reality pop up. Basically I love what is trying to do, but I think the execution was wrong. I reccomend this not for the conclusions he pulls out of it, but rather for the new questions it raises.

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Interesting... although I don't think the article is generalized enough(there are more than just male bronies after all) I get what he's saying, and I agree with what he has to say for the most part.


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That is also one of the reasons why there are so many male bronies and so few females bronies. Girls don't stand out as much as guys do, and in a show that has been targeted for young people with their gender, they don't make a big deal out of this as we do.

 

 

I don't think the article is generalized enough(there are more than just male bronies after all)

 

This raises an interesting question for me: do female bronies receive the same kind of flak from non-bronies as their male counterparts? I ask out of ignorance and genuine curiosity. I've not had the chance to chat with any pegasisters about their 'conversion' to bronyhood. From the male side (as is probably well understood) detractors often regard a brony as self-emasculating. I am curious: what difficulties do female bronies face from non-bronies?

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What I mostly noticed what the writer of the article is pretty much oblivious to the actual feminist cause. He is talking about the bronies main demographic as being the first to be raised in a matriarcal society. It is wrong on so many levels to think that. The feminist cause has won it's share of fights in the last 30 years, but we are still in a male-dominated society.

Indeed. The mere fact that it is the men who love this show that are so out-spoken about it is actually a sign of this. It is the man who is fighting for his right to like something that is normally dismissed as "girly" without being bullied about it. It isn't women who are insisting that men need to like this show (not that that would ever work anyways).

 

Funny thing is that the initial reason why 4chan started watching the show? A feminist wrote a really strong article stating that the show was anti-feminist, and that the show contained female stereotypes. Talk about the opposite of what the show has been praised for.

 

That is also one of the reasons why there are so many male bronies and so few females bronies. Girls don't stand out as much as guys do, and in a show that has been targeted for young people with their gender, they don't make a big deal out of this as we do. Still, there are probably more females bronies than what was estimated with the latest Brony Herd Census.

I think that there are more female bronies than we think as well. First, I never know when the census things are able to be participated in, so I know that I never get to fill out my information. Already that is missing one female. How many more are we missing, then? Also, ever been to a meet up? I have, and there were lots of girls. And when I worked my retail job where customers could see my MLP T-shirt, women commented on it. Only one guy commented on it, and he hadn't seen the show yet, he just liked cartoons. Also little girls commented on it as well (remember that targeted demographic? lol)

 

Those walls he is talking about might be a creation of society, they still do exist metaphorically. And you can not say that bronies are people who didn't see those walls. They did. They plowed through it. They are doing what feminists do: Break down the Walls of the Patriarcal Society that has forced them into second-class citizenship for so long.

 

I like the point of the view he brings, but he definitively missed the boat on several occasions on this one. Bring this to a guy that is an actual feminist non-brony and you will see a whole new reality pop up. Basically I love what is trying to do, but I think the execution was wrong. I reccomend this not for the conclusions he pulls out of it, but rather for the new questions it raises.

And I do think that there are real, non-made-up differences between men and women. A lot of those differences come from out biology, not only our genitalia but our hormones. That influences our behavior significantly.

 

But the creed that MLP is only for little girls? Considering that the MLP franchise is only 30 years old, that creed was definitely made up by society, more specifically, by marketing. Marketing is powerful, influential stuff. You are right that the feminist movement has had a lot of victories. But it has also allowed marketing toys and TV shows to be more gender-segregated than ever before. I do not know how anyone can think that the feminist movement has accomplished everything that it can.

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