Furry discussion thread

[Starshine 16,330]

Great, now you're twisting my words - are you end of the rope or what?

 

Twisting your words? Dear me, I'm too idiotic for that

 

I'm sorry but are you completely blind to the existance of fanfics, comics, and series?

 

I'm here to talk about the show, I hardly care about anything inside the furry fandom.

 

About the show, let me split it to two points, group A(how the characters look and act) and group B (the plot, the personality, overall godawful cuteness)

 

Furries are attracted to FiM because group A

While Bronies are attracted to FiM because group B

 

The point of attraction is the same, but the reason why we watch the show is not.

[enigmatia 37]

Here. Let it make it easier on the mind, I know I like diagrams.

 

*crap

 

Now I've got to go to my uni lecture.

Edited August 6, 2012 by enigmatia

[Starshine 16,330]

It seems you're already dead set on saying bronies are nothing but lesser part of furries

 

This will go nowhere

[Skullbuster 1,906]

Here. Let it make it easier on the mind, I know I like diagrams.

 

*crap

 

Now I've got to go to my uni lecture.

 

this diagram makes it seem like furries and bronies are the same thing, which they are not

[Twilight Sky 449]

Also I have been in furry communities and they are not as nearly as fun or nice as the brony communities...

[Skullbuster 1,906]

Whoa, whoa, hold the phone! I'm a bit of a furry myself (being a huge Sonic nerd and liking anthropomorphic animals), but I'm pretty sure I don't "see myself as an animal". No, in fact I don't at all.

 

 

just about every furry ive meet, sees them selfs as some kind of animal,the most popular being wolfs and foxes, in most cases if you ask one "what animal are you" or something to that effect they will gladly tell you

[Discovery Dream 592]

*Sigh*

because every furry is into fucking animals.

Please, do me a favor and brush up on your facts.

http://en.wikipedia....ki/Furry_fandom

Yes, some are, but some aren't.

Anyway, bronies are not a subdivision of furries or anything silly like that.

 

Whoa, whoa, hey, let's be friendly here, we're all allowed to have opinions.

 

Meh, I don't think bronies are furries. Bronies are the periphery demographic of MLP: FiM, furries are people who like anthropomorphic animals. Those are two seperate things.

[Bari 7,021]

Who among us has a ponysona, AKA, a pony persona? I just spoke with a furry, and he told me that furries are people with a fursona. A fursona is a persona that is an antro. In that regard, some bronies are similar to furries.

[Sky 746]

People hate what other people hate so they can fit in. If one person says they hate them 100s will follow unfortunately its human nature to copy.

[Twilight Sky 449]

Where is the mod I asked for. This conversation is turning into a flame war. So people just stop this thread needs to be locked.

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[notdog1996 315]

Where is the mod I asked for. This conversation is turning into a flame war. So people just stop this thread needs to be locked.

._.

 

Thanks God someone asked! I can't stand it anymore! This tread is basically saying ''you like MLP, you're a furry''!

[letterone 1,203]

just about every furry ive meet, sees them selfs as some kind of animal,the most popular being wolfs and foxes, in most cases if you ask one "what animal are you" or something to that effect they will gladly tell you

 

That's a fursona. It doesn't mean that they literally think they're an animal, it's just a furry's "OC".

 

And I do have one of 'em. He's a freakin' fox-tiger-wolf fusion.

[Driz 1,552]

I don't know exactly the definition of furry, but it has something to do with adding human looks to any animal, not necessarily being Yiff (porn).

 

I don't know if I can consider myself as a furry, but I simply like the artstyle. Any anime-drawn catgirl, for example, will probably grab my attention. But I don't have any kind of sexual fantasy, nor see myself as an animal.

 

I'm not sure if Bronies and Furries are related in some way, but I know that both are misjudged, being considerated nasty-pedophiles-perverts by the society, which we all know it is not entirely true.

 

+EDIT+

Anyway, I think we should stop with the 'Furries x Bronies' stuff for now, as I believe it's starting to create more fuss than it should. :|

Edited August 6, 2012 by DrizzleSTAR

[Sky 746]

No. Bronies are not furries because that would mean little kids that watch mlp are also furries wouldnt it?

[Thunderstorm 120]

I don't know why, I do not hate them. I do, however hate when they try to convert me into one. But that is with everything.

[Apple Bloom 2,916]

This thread is getting out of hand, and besides, I don't think there's much more that can be discussed on the topic so I'll be locking it now.

[Ad Foedera Cresco 188]

(Okay, so to wrap it up on all that this is about, this is about the Discussion on the whole Furries vs Bronies and whether they're alike or not. I'm here to give As much Insight as possible so that this will Hopefully stop. I'm not going to look at the statistics, just the general stuff).

 

First off is how Both Fandoms are alike:

 

Furries have something widely known as a Fursona, Bronies have something widely known as an OC Pony. Both are EXACTLY the same, they can be whatever you want, just use your imagination! the only difference is that an OC Pony is mostly centered around bieng a Pony, unlike a Fursona. A lot of Bronies think that most Furries just like to act like an animal or think they're an animal on the inside, but that's VERY minor in the Fandom.

 

Furries and Bronies each have their own major websites, Example is Equestria Daily and FurAffinity. Each both center around catching up on what's up to date in the Fandom and to look through what the Fandom has to offer and meeting new people. In a way, FurAffinity is a like Equestria Daily because the Furry Fandom is an art community, and F.A bieng the biggest Furry art website we have. Both websites allow members to meet new people and find out about music, artwork, etc.

 

Each Fandom has very talented musicians, writers, artists, etc.

 

Something you wouldn't expect to find that's VERY alike is the cons of the Fandoms. I think we ALL know Furries have a horrible reputation of bieng mostly Perverts (Furverts) who like to get it on to BIG Fox Badonkadonks, but Bronies have this too, also known as Cloppers. The reason there seems to be more Furverts than Cloppers is because the Brony Fandom is based on bieng a fan of a show where it teaches good moral, love, toleration, and respect for everybody. The Furry Fandom is just an art community where anything could happen. There are parts which seem very childish, but there are parts where it's like Gears of War on sterioids. Cloppers and Furverts are still very minor in each community, along with fursuiters in the Furry Fandom. about 20-25% of Furries even Fursuit, but they don't do it for the "sexual thrill" or whatever outside stereo-types, Fursuiters Fursuit because they like the smiles and laughs people get because it's a good feeling! that or it's just fun and you want to be your Fursona (if you're that attached).

 

As stated before, the Furry Fandom isn't based around a family show where there's good lesson to learn every episode, so not ALL of them are going to be nice but actually a majority of them are. Just like a few Brony's who are real butt chickens, that doesn't mean they're all lke that, or that they all clopp to Rarity.

 

Furries and Bronies both wear giant costumes, both Role play, both have artists, musicians, writers, journalists, bloggers, websites, and have made a mark on Mainstream society, but the only difference is that Bronies are all about bieng fan of the specific show, where Furries are a fan of a specific type of Art.

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I've been reading through some articles and posts and a lot of them are saying that "If you like MLP: FiM then you're a Brony, swag". No, just because you like the show doesn't mean you're a Brony, same with Liking Furry artwork and actually bieng a Furry. Bieng a Brony or Furry means that you accept to be called a Brony/Furry, closet Brony/Furry or not, and that you want to partake in the Fandom. Bieng a Brony doesn't mean you're a Furry but you are actually watching a "Furry" show. It wasn't made for Furries, but all the characters can be labeled a Furry, Anthropomorphic, or a Silly cartoon character. It's just that when you normally Label something "Furry" it usually means it was more for or specifically the Furry Fandom, but it's a way of calling something Anthropomorphic. Twilight, Applejack, Rarity, Fluttershy, Pinkiepie, Rainbow Dash, Tank, Opal, Owlicious, and angel are all "Furries:. I wouldn't really consider Winona a "Furry" because there really isn't anything Anthro about Winona, but she's still awesome!

 

Basicly, you're only a Brony/Furry if you ALLOW yourself to partake in the Fandom, no matter how much you love MLP:FiM/Anthropomorphism. But pretty much almost every character in MLP: FiM is a "Furry", even if they're barely anthropomorphic at all like Angel.

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I can't say which Fandom is better because that'd be my Opinion, but to all ya' Bronies out there, Enjoy your Fandom as much as you can! it won't stay the same that's for sure. Not to rumble your bajitis but nothing stays the same, the Fandom will grow but Inside taboo like Cloppers will grow much more too. Sad day, but the Fandom is still mainly about the show so that's a major +.

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Overall: Bronies are VERY VERY VERY Smiliar, it's just that the only thing that makes the difference is what both are centered around. I have to say that the Furry Fandom is more complex with it's sub-cultures and even inside species stereo-types, yet Bronies naturally are friendlier and "down to Earth", neither Fandom is better or worse. I hope this wrapped everything up so far, and I hope somebody takes all this in and adds more to it eventually. I'm also sorry if there is any typos because I'm heading out of state soon. I'm not a Brony, a Furry, but I still respect both communitys equally and I just want these conflicts to end. i'm willing to reply to any P.M's.

 

Sincerely: R.O~

 

(Art piece by: Tirrel)

Edited August 6, 2012 by Trollestia-IV

[Random User 249]

inb4 a bunch of people disagree and begin arguing once more.

 

Though I agree with just about everything you say here.

[Flicker Sweet 3,391]

Yeah, I don't get how people make such a big issue out of stuff people are into......in Texas (where I currently live) if you've got the testicular fortitude (think about it before you ask) to confidently admit you're into something, people leave you alone. No controversy, no argument, no conflict.....

Edited August 6, 2012 by Red

[Solar Wind 595]

meh ... I still think they are extremely different and shouldnt be compared... But thats just like my opinion man.

 

meh ... I still think they are extremely different and shouldnt be compared... But thats just like my opinion man.

[Night Shine 767]

As a former furry and current brony, I disagree, but I still see where you're coming from.

 

I probably just only saw certain parts of the community--I only saw the sexual part of the furry community because that's why i was part of it, and I only now see the non-sexual part of the brony community because I'm in this for the show, not the Internet corrupting the show.

 

See that's the thing though--these comparisons make me uneasy because I feel like bronies are "different" from other internet groups because we're so pure. We are united by love of a moral, happy show instead of other things such as causing others anger (the trolls) and well, from my perspective, the furries are united by the fetish of being sexually attracted to human-like animals. That is, as I was until my love of MLP stopped my (furry) porn habit when I became a brony.

 

Don't get me wrong, i don't want to be cruel to a group of people on the internet indiscriminately, but the idea of bronies and furries being alike just rubs me the wrong way

[One 498]

Heres what I think: I don't care as long as it dosen't affect me in a bad way. Furries don't affect me and I could care less. Some Bronys effect me, but thoose are cloppers and people that spam mlp everywere giving some of us a bad title and some annoying stereotypes.

[Ad Foedera Cresco 188]

As a former furry and current brony, I disagree, but I still see where you're coming from.

 

I probably just only saw certain parts of the community--I only saw the sexual part of the furry community because that's why i was part of it, and I only now see the non-sexual part of the brony community because I'm in this for the show, not the Internet corrupting the show.

 

See that's the thing though--these comparisons make me uneasy because I feel like bronies are "different" from other internet groups because we're so pure. We are united by love of a moral, happy show instead of other things such as causing others anger (the trolls) and well, from my perspective, the furries are united by the fetish of being sexually attracted to human-like animals. That is, as I was until my love of MLP stopped my (furry) porn habit when I became a brony.

 

Don't get me wrong, i don't want to be cruel to a group of people on the internet indiscriminately, but the idea of bronies and furries being alike just rubs me the wrong way

 

I see what you're getting at, and yeah actually a few Furries do find eachother via Big bunny Bonkers, but Love and Tolerate I guess

[Vulpes 26]

The pornographic side of the fandom. That is the one biggest hater magnet. When I originally became a furry that was my moms biggest concern upon talking with her friends. At this point I guess I'm not as into it, I stay a furry for the community however. I know a number of kind people who are furries, and the concept of anthropomorphism is interesting to me. Being America I think we have a lot to do with it, we bubble wrap our children, no cuss words, absolutely taboo are genitalia, and so many of our topics end up as fighting grounds. We are the country that cares about all the things that don't matter, so naturally I assume while not all of the haters are here in the U.S.A. many of them probably are.

 

The reason people out of the U.S. people not bubble wrapped I assume dislike it is because they find it gross, it's like non-religious people who hate on the LGBTQ community, it's gross, that's their logic. Same with furries, being animals many people think that the porn is not only revolting for being a fetish but a common belief is that it is bestiality. If that wasn't the reason people could make others, perhaps that they are people stuck in a fantasy life, or a million other things. People who hate indefinitely will MAKE reasons, that is psychology. I speak from experience, when you are depressed you make reasons that your situation is bad, even if they are illogical. Heck, the sheer abnormality could be a reason in some peoples minds.

 

In short the two reasons are this, everything and everyone has haters, and people feel being interested in anthropomorphism means you are interested in furry porn by extension, in their mind, bestiality. So there is no GOOD reason people stereotype-hate furries, hating anybody as a group is almost always a bad idea.

 

The only reason to stereotype that I can think of at the moment is simplicity. I'm going to put myself on the line here. I say I am asexual for simplicity sake, but let's take a deeper look. While in terms of drawings I do partake in viewing explicit art, I use that as relief. I am a teenager, and I get stressed, so sometimes it is one of few things that will help, that is simply the fact of the matter. However despite that I logically do not want a relationship. On a further coin while sometimes I am demisexual upon imagining "it" is not something I want in a real situation. So I could be classified as practicing celibacy,straight, demisexual, asexual, and aromatic, but in a real scenario I am disgusted, so where it matters I am asexual. It is easiest not to explain so I say asexual, and that is

. By the same logic it is much easier to not explain the minorities and stereotypes in some situations can be a great time saver, when both parties or individuals recognize the exceptions. I avoid stereotyping even in the rare scenario it is mildly appropriate. Building good habits is a good thing.

 

Abusing this logic and ignoring the exceptions people apply it to all sorts of a group, or perhaps ignoring the logic entirely and stereotyping without discretion. People hate furries as a whole for their art and other things, as some people will do with all groups. It's not really avoidable, furries often having the fetishes, the abnormalities, the interest in anthropomorphism, the sizable fanbase, they are the prime internet punching bag for people with personal insecurities.

[Dr Manehattan 17]

I think people hate Furries because they think they're all yiffers.

It's the same with us. People think we're all cloppers.