Singe 2,111 March 28, 2014 Share March 28, 2014 Why does Megan have to be human? They could make her a dragon for all we care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adorkable 2,737 March 28, 2014 Share March 28, 2014 (edited) The show is fine as is; plus, I wrote a blog explaining my take on the human/pony dichotomy and how the fact that they're ponies probably makes the show more enjoyable to us Dat shameless advertising. (\ (Just kidding! ^^) Should we see a return of Meghan in FIM? (Kidding! ^^) All joking aside, I have to agree with Ghostie, Equestria Girls is plenty enough humans for my taste in ponies. ^^ With all due respect though, it was a good idea. ^^ Edited March 28, 2014 by Adorkable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuckles4lyfe 441 March 28, 2014 Share March 28, 2014 While introducing a human in the world of Friendship is Magic does seem interesting, I think it would be for the best if that world stayed strictly to Ponies and other animals. The show is named My Little "Pony" after all! Bringing in a human this late in the shows cycle would be the point at which the show "jumps the shark" imo. The land of Equestria is a world rich and vibrant with many different exotic creatures out there; the last thing that we need is a human coming in and messing up with the lore that the show is focused on. #Squadgoals "But that day...The day I discovered racing...I proved that the legends were true. I made the impossible happen!"—Dash "Friendship isn't always easy, but there's no doubt it's worth fighting for."— Twilight Sparkle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rarity Paige Belle 1,854 March 28, 2014 Author Share March 28, 2014 While introducing a human in the world of Friendship is Magic does seem interesting, I think it would be for the best if that world stayed strictly to Ponies and other animals. The show is named My Little "Pony" after all! Bringing in a human this late in the shows cycle would be the point at which the show "jumps the shark" imo. The land of Equestria is a world rich and vibrant with many different exotic creatures out there; the last thing that we need is a human coming in and messing up with the lore that the show is focused on. To be fair though, G1 was called MLP and having humans in it actually enhanced the show. At least for me, anyway Beautiful, Stylish, Fabulous AND evil! What more could you want? (Thanks Kyoshi for letting everyone use your sigs!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adachi 772 March 28, 2014 Share March 28, 2014 I just think that MLP without anything from the previous gens is like how the Looney Tunes show is to the Looney Tunes universe, except at least FiM is a lot better. Gen 2 had no cartoon so that has an excuse for no humans. Gen 3 had no humans, but at least they kept most/all of the ponies from g1 while adding new ones. I like how they improved the quality of the animation, but to old time fans of the series, the Ponyland we all know and love was paved over to make way for Equestria (not that I don't love Equestria and g4, I love them both, but..). Maybe it's just my nostalgic side talking. It can get pretty unreasonable sometimes “I am quite sure now that often, very often, in matters concerning religion and politics a man’s reasoning powers are not above the monkey’s.” — Mark Twain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fhaolan 4,483 March 28, 2014 Share March 28, 2014 Well, let me counter with another question. What would you have Megan *do*? In the original series, Megan occupied the current position that Twilight occupies, of the 'main character'. All of her characterization was built around being 'the chosen one', and the bearer of the Rainbow of Light. She was also used as the adult-substitute that acted as caretaker to the actual ponies, as they were often portrayed as being too childish to take care of themselves. This is especially evident in the 'Ghost of Paradise Estate' episode. Without a specific story idea around this, I'm not really seeing a purpose for re-introducing this character. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adachi 772 March 28, 2014 Share March 28, 2014 (edited) Well, let me counter with another question. What would you have Megan *do*? In the original series, Megan occupied the current position that Twilight occupies, of the 'main character'. All of her characterization was built around being 'the chosen one', and the bearer of the Rainbow of Light. She was also used as the adult-substitute that acted as caretaker to the actual ponies, as they were often portrayed as being too childish to take care of themselves. This is especially evident in the 'Ghost of Paradise Estate' episode. Without a specific story idea around this, I'm not really seeing a purpose for re-introducing this character. I mentioned this elsewhere, but I'll mention it here too. I think her return could have a major reason. Maybe she somehow found out about the flutter ponies becoming changelings, so she returns to change them back into flutter ponies (maybe the elements won't work for this task, and only the rainbow of light can, or it could require both the elements and the rainbow of light), or find some other kind of redemption. Maybe help them realize that they're not monsters, and they can shape their own destiny. And possibly teach them love, and how to feed off of each other's love for each other maybe. But that would make a lot of fans upset, because Discord was already redeemed, NM was really Luna who wasn't really in control of herself when NM started taking over, and Sombra had 1, maybe 2 episodes, and was gone just like that, so there's not really any real villains left, other than QC. There would have to be at least 1-2 new villains before they could even think of reforming QC and the changelings. Edited March 28, 2014 by Assertive Fluttershy “I am quite sure now that often, very often, in matters concerning religion and politics a man’s reasoning powers are not above the monkey’s.” — Mark Twain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rarity Paige Belle 1,854 March 28, 2014 Author Share March 28, 2014 Well, let me counter with another question. What would you have Megan *do*?In the original series, Megan occupied the current position that Twilight occupies, of the 'main character'. All of her characterization was built around being 'the chosen one', and the bearer of the Rainbow of Light. She was also used as the adult-substitute that acted as caretaker to the actual ponies, as they were often portrayed as being too childish to take care of themselves. This is especially evident in the 'Ghost of Paradise Estate' episode.Without a specific story idea around this, I'm not really seeing a purpose for re-introducing this character. Well, there could be a two episode storyline, where a new enemy appears that the mane six and the elements of harmony cannot defeat. So Celestia sends twilight into our world to find Megan. Like Equestria girls, but with none of the multicoloured human rubbish, or the love story. Beautiful, Stylish, Fabulous AND evil! What more could you want? (Thanks Kyoshi for letting everyone use your sigs!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fhaolan 4,483 March 28, 2014 Share March 28, 2014 I mentioned this elsewhere, but I'll mention it here too. I think her return could have a major reason. Maybe she somehow found out about the flutter ponies becoming changelings, so she returns to change them back into flutter ponies (maybe the elements won't work for this task, and only the rainbow of light can, or it could require both the elements and the rainbow of light), or find some other kind of redemption. Well, there could be a two episode storyline, where a new enemy appears that the mane six and the elements of harmony cannot defeat. So Celestia sends twilight into our world to find Megan. Like Equestria girls, but with none of the multicoloured human rubbish, or the love story. The main problem with these plot lines, is that they rely on the idea that the ponies can't deal with things so they have to be saved by the Human. Which if you really do want a G1 feel to things, that makes sense but it's one of things I disliked about My Little Pony 'n Friends when it first broadcast. Honestly I have no problems with the Humans in Equestria concept, but I draw the line at 'Humans to the Rescue'. Part of the point of this series is that these ponies are able to deal with conflicts and issues based on their own skills, morals, abilities, and whatnot. Anything that smacks of 'we're too weak, let's call on the Human savior' is somewhat distasteful to me. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adachi 772 March 28, 2014 Share March 28, 2014 The main problem with these plot lines, is that they rely on the idea that the ponies can't deal with things so they have to be saved by the Human. Which if you really do want a G1 feel to things, that makes sense but it's one of things I disliked about My Little Pony 'n Friends when it first broadcast. Honestly I have no problems with the Humans in Equestria concept, but I draw the line at 'Humans to the Rescue'. Part of the point of this series is that these ponies are able to deal with conflicts and issues based on their own skills, morals, abilities, and whatnot. Anything that smacks of 'we're too weak, let's call on the Human savior' is somewhat distasteful to me. Yeah, I get what you're saying. Although, it wouldn't be so much "call upon the human savior" as it would be "the elements aren't strong enough, we need the rainbow of light". And they could make it so the rainbow of light alone wouldn't be powerful enough, they would all have to work together and give everything they got to defeat the new villain. Then again, I would be happy with so much as a nod. Maybe Twilight Sparkle reads a book about Ponyland, and she reads to the CMC about how ponies used to live. It would be a good history lesson to them. “I am quite sure now that often, very often, in matters concerning religion and politics a man’s reasoning powers are not above the monkey’s.” — Mark Twain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SomeReallyRandomGuy 137 March 28, 2014 Share March 28, 2014 Nah, EQG has enough humans. The show works the way it is. No need to add humans, it would just be odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwilightDreamer 69 March 28, 2014 Share March 28, 2014 Since we're already onto season 4 of FIM, elements of G1 are now out of the question and in hindsight, it's been said that no humans have ever appeared in Equestria so the idea of having Megan return would be far-fetched and way out of line for this community. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fhaolan 4,483 March 28, 2014 Share March 28, 2014 Yeah, I get what you're saying. Although, it wouldn't be so much "call upon the human savior" as it would be "the elements aren't strong enough, we need the rainbow of light". And they could make it so the rainbow of light alone wouldn't be powerful enough, they would all have to work together and give everything they got to defeat the new villain. Sure, you might be able to pull that off. To be honest, I've seen the 'Human saves the ponies' plot done well enough that it didn't even register. Turnabout Storm, for example. The part that made it reasonable to me was that the conflict was not something the ponies *couldn't* deal with. It wasn't some massive threat or disaster. It was very personal and Phoenix wasn't the 'savior', just someone who was doing his best to help (and in fact he was only borderline competent). So it can be done, but I'm not sure Megan would even be recognizable if translated this way. I'm going over that series in my head, and I get more character and personality out of Danny and Molly. Megan was very... blank most of the time, in the way a lot of the audience insert characters tended to be at the time. :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adachi 772 March 28, 2014 Share March 28, 2014 (edited) Sure, you might be able to pull that off. To be honest, I've seen the 'Human saves the ponies' plot done well enough that it didn't even register. Turnabout Storm, for example. The part that made it reasonable to me was that the conflict was not something the ponies *couldn't* deal with. It wasn't some massive threat or disaster. It was very personal and Phoenix wasn't the 'savior', just someone who was doing his best to help (and in fact he was only borderline competent). So it can be done, but I'm not sure Megan would even be recognizable if translated this way. I'm going over that series in my head, and I get more character and personality out of Danny and Molly. Megan was very... blank most of the time, in the way a lot of the audience insert characters tended to be at the time. :/ Yeah. Maybe Megan could somehow pass on the Rainbow of Light to Molly, and she could come to Equestria to finish her sister's work. Although there's still the problem of most g4 fans not recognizing her. Maybe if one of the ponies sees her locket and happens to be a historian, and the pony asked how she got the locket when Megan was the chosen one, and there's a flashback, then it could possibly work. Edit: I don't care, I just want an excuse for Firefly to make an appearance in g4. Especially if she appears while Megan, Molly, or Danny are riding her into Equestria. Although I think Hasbro lost the rights to Firefly. Edited March 28, 2014 by Assertive Fluttershy “I am quite sure now that often, very often, in matters concerning religion and politics a man’s reasoning powers are not above the monkey’s.” — Mark Twain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rarity Paige Belle 1,854 March 28, 2014 Author Share March 28, 2014 Yeah. Maybe Megan could somehow pass on the Rainbow of Light to Molly, and she could come to Equestria to finish her sister's work. Although there's still the problem of most g4 fans not recognizing her. Maybe if one of the ponies sees her locket and happens to be a historian, and the pony asked how she got the locket when Megan was the chosen one, and there's a flashback, then it could possibly work. Edit: I don't care, I just want an excuse for Firefly to make an appearance in g4. Especially if she appears while Megan, Molly, or Danny are riding her into Equestria. Although I think Hasbro lost the rights to Firefly. I heard about that. Who owns the copyright now? Bonnie Zacherle? Beautiful, Stylish, Fabulous AND evil! What more could you want? (Thanks Kyoshi for letting everyone use your sigs!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormbringer 346 March 28, 2014 Share March 28, 2014 Here is Will Smith, voicing my opinion for me. *Waves* Thanks, Will Smith! There's death from the beginning, to the end of time. And I'm the Cosmic Champion, and I hold a mystic sign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Cedar 1,408 March 28, 2014 Share March 28, 2014 I heard about that. Who owns the copyright now? Bonnie Zacherle? Hasbro still owns the copyright to the look of the old ponies. What they let lapse was the trademark on the names of the ponies (which don't last as long as copyrights and have to be renewed). About the only G1 pony they still had the name trademarked on was Applejack. They would not be able to renew it after letting it lapse once, so they're likely not going to bring them back because it could result in some legal headaches over property rights. Roleplaying OC: Red Cedar - Cast Character: Applejack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theo 24 March 28, 2014 Share March 28, 2014 This would be the worst possible thing. Equestria is doing well without humans, thank you. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fhaolan 4,483 March 28, 2014 Share March 28, 2014 Hasbro still owns the copyright to the look of the old ponies. What they let lapse was the trademark on the names of the ponies (which don't last as long as copyrights and have to be renewed). About the only G1 pony they still had the name trademarked on was Applejack. They would not be able to renew it after letting it lapse once, so they're likely not going to bring them back because it could result in some legal headaches over property rights. There was also some confusion with the G1 properties, as Hasbro sold off a lot of the G1 molds for the toys to overseas manufactories when they converted to G2. By selling the molds, they also sold permission to use the molds, and it made the whole copyright/trademark/etc. thing very complicated and confused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wingnut 6,990 March 29, 2014 Share March 29, 2014 I just wanted to add my own two cents. My thoughts largely echo those of Fhaolan. Equestria's ponies are self-sufficient while most of Ponyland's ponies had childlike minds and they always needed Megan's intervention to overcome their greatest challenges. It's a stretch. I suppose it's possible, but atm I am having a hard time wrapping my mind around this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adachi 772 March 29, 2014 Share March 29, 2014 I just wanted to add my own two cents. My thoughts largely echo those of Fhaolan. Equestria's ponies are self-sufficient while most of Ponyland's ponies had childlike minds and they always needed Megan's intervention to overcome their greatest challenges. It's a stretch. I suppose it's possible, but atm I am having a hard time wrapping my mind around this one. Yeah, I see. Although it would be quite humorous for Princess Celstia to have her send her a letter on what she learned on her return. The letter would go something like this. "Dear Princess Celestia. Today, I learned that I shouldn't jump to conclusions, even if I have good intentions. I should allow others to do things for themselves, and only offer help when they need and want it." 1 “I am quite sure now that often, very often, in matters concerning religion and politics a man’s reasoning powers are not above the monkey’s.” — Mark Twain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darker 1,351 August 24, 2014 Share August 24, 2014 (edited) We should, but won't happen. Ignore these bronies, they obviously underestimate the legend known as Megan. Edited August 24, 2014 by Darker Overlord of Darkness Signature made by: Astral Blitzen http://mlpforums.com/user/24786-astral-blitzen/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroTwo 64 August 24, 2014 Share August 24, 2014 I think that G4 has drifted so far from G1 in terms of style and writing, it probably wouldn't work out. Also, there are people who complain about Cadence and Shining Armor being unplanned and just thrown in, so throwing in a human characted for no reason would cause an OUTRAGE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastel 7,630 August 24, 2014 Share August 24, 2014 No! That would be a perfect way to jump the shark. x) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MilesTheLunar 67 August 24, 2014 Share August 24, 2014 Maybe in Equestria Girls, but I personally think that reintroducing her in the main series would be a bad idea, as one of the big pros of the main series is the absence of humans. Animated wildlife animals can get away with a lot of things that animated humans can't without looking awkward of unpleasant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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