What is Zoophilia?

[Guest]

I think by this time, considering we're on page 2 of this... we freaking know what zoophilia is by now. But you pose the question "Is it right or wrong?" I get that this is all going to be opinion based, since, you ARE asking for opinions, right?

 

I choose to give my opinion then. If you are sexually attracted to animals, then, I think you're fucking weird. Plain and simple and that is my opinion. Now, if you have sex with an animal, then I will find you disgusting. Disgusting is perhaps an understatement. Ooooh I'm soooo closed minded, I know. lmfao.

 

There ya go, kiddos. If I knew someone fuckin' animals, I'd stay the hell away from 'em.

[BayoUni2847 528]

I don't understand why people would want to get jiggy with it with an animal let alone be sexually attracted to them, they're just an animal.

Edited May 9, 2014 by Deadlyblack

[MeowLord Noraasha 135]

I don't understand why people would want to get jiggy with it with an animal let alone be sexually attracted to them, they're just an animal. Just because you can't get your Sunny D to shine on a woman you have to go find an animal that has no idea what's going on and does not have a vitamin C deficiency.

You really think that it's caused by not being able to find a woman? Go, ponder some more upon it and come back with something smarter ^^

[BayoUni2847 528]

You really think that it's caused by not being able to find a woman? Go, ponder some more upon it and come back with something smarter ^^

I was obviously being sarcastic throughout that whole sentence. The whole matter of people finding animals attractive in a sexual matter isn't right, so I have to joke about it using stupid innuendos.

[Scootalove 10,689]

I don't think that it would be wrong for people to get jiggy with animals, but I think that if I saw someone do that I would probably walk away from them for a while. Do what you want on your own time privately at least.

[MeowLord Noraasha 135]

I was obviously being sarcastic throughout that whole sentence. The whole matter of people finding animals attractive in a sexual matter isn't right, so I have to joke about it using stupid innuendos.

I thought you were serious...

Well in my opinion the fact that you have to make fun of the topic instead talking arguments and opinions is not caused by the horror of the subject, but by your immaturity... People tend to cover whatever they're afraid to talk about with humour...

If it's so bad, we should be working on a "cure"..

Nevermind, moving on.

 

But yeah I agree. It's so horrible people when your tasty animals are being raped right? It's a cruelty towards animals...

Edited May 9, 2014 by ShadowSong

[Hive King 2,001]

I don't think that it would be wrong for people to get jiggy with animals, but I think that if I saw someone do that I would probably walk away from them for a while. Do what you want on your own time privately at least.

The animal can't consent, it is rape. You are going to get charges for animal abuse

[Scootalove 10,689]

The animal can't consent, it is rape. You are going to get charges for animal abuse

I can see that, but I don't want them to do it where everyone can see it. Don't do it at all.

[Andaasonsan 3,205]

The animal can't consent, it is rape. You are going to get charges for animal abuse

If there is peanut butter involved, would that count as consent?

[Hive King 2,001]

If there is peanut butter involved, would that count as consent?

Nope, just like having sex with someone whos drunk is rape and having sex with a minor is rape. The animal doesn't have the mental capacity to consent

[Castle Bleck 19,377]

My reaction to zoophilia:

 

[Rainbowcrash420 109]

Im seriously not trying to troll or anything this is MY honest opinion but I dont see alot of difference between zoophilia and clopping. Especially feral clop which I have seen a lot of...... Wait why was i??!?? Im not a clopper or trying to hate on cloppers, but im just saying......ok this is getting weird  

Edited May 9, 2014 by PONY SPIKE

[Ziggy + Angel + Rain 11,303]

I realized I hadn't really answered the poll question lol.  And couldn't, for that matter.  If zoophilia is defined merely as the sexual attraction to animals, then I can't say that's wrong or right.  I don't think anyone consciously decided, "Yes, yes I will be attracted to this or that person or animal or store mannequin."  But - and I touched on this already I think - acting on that attraction with someone or something that can't consent is wrong.

Im seriously not trying to troll or anything this is MY honest opinion but I dont see alot of difference between zoophilia and clopping. Especially feral clop which I have seen a lot of...... Wait why was i??!?? Im not a clopper or trying to hate on cloppers, but im just saying......ok this is getting weird  

It's an inherently weird topic, so don't feel too bad lol.  I think people might generally agree that talking, highly intelligent, self-aware (not to mention fictional) ponies are not the same thing as, you know, actual in-real-life equines and whatnot.  Maybe Mr. Ed occupies the middleground (if you're familiar with that xD).  And I'd never before heard the term "feral clop."

[Champion RD92 8,658]

I honestly think that it's pretty disgusting if someone has sex with an animal or wants to have sex with an animal. Plus, the animal would have no way to consent, so like wtf.

Edited May 9, 2014 by Champion RD92

[Guest]

Alright kids, let's look at this situation from a different standpoint. What do I mean by that? Simple, let's do some comparison with this supposed "Zoophilia" (Which personally I think is a stupid name for it...) 

 

I've seen multiple people in this topic point out their views on "sexing up" or "getting jiggy with" animals, so why don't I just point out my views on this as well. Sure, people are always going to be "attracted" to whatever they want, but does that exactly make it right? It's very difficult to say how "right" it is. It really depends on who you ask.

 

On a larger scale, many would say being attracted to something is implying it from a sexual standpoint. Which I agree with. If you are attracted to animals, you are probably wanting to have some kind of sexual relations with them or you would just take the time to call them cute or something similar. 

Take the cartoon ponies from My Little Pony, they are very cute lil' fellas, but some folks claim to be "attracted" to them. What do they label themselves as? Cloppers, right? So how is that situation any different from the situation with animals of any kind? It's really not. If people really get so attracted to animals, I'm taking a fair assumption that they probably want more than just looking at them.

 

So, back to the point of if it's "right" or not. Let's think for a second. If you were one of those people that said "I don't care if people are sexually aroused and attracted to animals." then you probably are okay with it. But, really. Animals don't exactly know if someone is "attracted" to them in this manner due to communication difficulties. So, to force any sexual actions on them would be very wrong.

 

Why would it be wrong? Because, if you think it's okay to be attracted to animals because they can supposedly feel the same way about the situation, why would it be okay to force sexual actions on them? So even if you feel the animal has feelings for you in return, tricking it into any sexually related activity is rather jacked up higher than a 10 inch lift kit on a 98' Silverado.

 

But when it comes all down to the bottom of this, don't you feel folks who are into anything like this supposed "Zoophilia" are acting out in a desperate manner to fill a hole in their mind that they can't fill with a significant other that is of the same species? I'd say that's probably the case. It doesn't matter what direction it is implied in, it'd be safe to say any sexual material directed toward anyone/anything that doesn't know about it happening, is not great. Just compare that with pedophilia. Kids don't know either, but people still take advantage of them as well with physical, emotional and indirect forms of communication . It's really not much different with animals if you do a comparison. If you like/love animals enough to supposedly be attracted to them, you should respect them enough not to be derogatory to them in a explicit manner.

[Champion RD92 8,658]

But, really. Animals don't exactly know if someone is "attracted" to them in this manner due to communication difficulties. So, to force any sexual actions on them would be very wrong.

 

That's very true. And even if someone could somehow communicate with the animal, I still think it would be pretty weird to have sex with it......

[Andaasonsan 3,205]

@@RAEce CarBut sexual fantasies don't have to be realistic or make any sort of logical sense and it is fairly common for the fantasizer to have no intention of acting on their fantasy.

 

For instance people in a committed relationship still will inevitably fantasize about someone who is not their partner no matter how actually loyal they are in real life.

 

I'm pretty sure everyone at some point has had a fantasy that they don't realistically intend to act on. In fact that would describe probably the vast majority of sexual thoughts that people have, because it would be very inappropriate to proposition every damn person that you're attracted to.

 

That's kind of the whole point of a fantasy is that you can explore unrealistic scenarios without real consequence.

[Ziggy + Angel + Rain 11,303]

Just to put this out there: growing up, I had crushes on a number of animated, nonhuman characters.  Particularly cartoon mice; I know not why it was mice.  So therefore I must also be some horrible mouse rapist.  Oh WAIT...  I don't have and have never had any improper contact with mice.  Nor can I imagine a scenario where I'd ever want that lol.  Hmmm...  Perhaps there is far more assuming and opining (devoid, one might suggest, of empathy or attempted objectivity) going on in this topic than there is, ya know...  In any-way-reliable psychological examination on a basis of relevant education and / or established fact.  I've also found myself attracted to real life human-type women; I wouldn't act on any of those feelings without consent.  Not every guy with a fetish / attraction to something "unusual" is a would-be rapist with no impulse control.

Edited May 9, 2014 by PegaMister

[Harmony And Rarity 195]

I only said right, because in Equestria. For example, they are another species or horse (I guess lmao) but they are intelligent. And I don't get why you all said it was wrong, when half of the forum topics is what happens if you have a son, or filly WITH YOUR MAREFRIEND. The way I see it, if the other race is a race of intelligent technicolor ponies, and one wants to be in a relationship with you. Then do it.

[Justin_Case001 4,903]

I think that the very idea of asking whether being attracted to something is right or wrong is in and of itself flawed and ridiculous for one simple reason:  A person cannot help what they are attracted to.  Simply finding the shape, curves, movement, etc, of an animal sexy doesn't make a person somehow inherintly bad or disgusting or evil.  A person doesn't decide whether or not to feel that way.  The only fair question one can pose is that of "is it right or wrong to act on such feelings?"  I would say it is wrong due to the whole inability to give consent, which has already been discussed at length.  But here's something to consider; animals can't give consent to be (often forcibly) artificially inseminated or forcibly and repeatedly bred for farming/meat industry purposes.  They also can't consent to being slaughtered.  Now, I still eat meat, so I'm kind of a hypocrit.  I'm not going to go down that road specifically because I don't want to derail the topic.  My point is just that it's interesting how we as a species tend to get all bent out of shape over some issues, and often look the other way on others.  One other interesting thing to consider: rape is rampant in the animal kingdom, and probably more harmful to the animal than if a person engaged in a sexual act with them in a caring and respectful manner.  Not saying I'm pro-sex with animals.  Just an interesting thing to think about, that's all.

[Hive King 2,001]

I only said right, because in Equestria. For example, they are another species or horse (I guess lmao) but they are intelligent. And I don't get why you all said it was wrong, when half of the forum topics is what happens if you have a son, or filly WITH YOUR MAREFRIEND. The way I see it, if the other race is a race of intelligent technicolor ponies, and one wants to be in a relationship with you. Then do it.

That's xenophilia since ponies are sentient

 

I think that the very idea of asking whether being attracted to something is right or wrong is in and of itself flawed and ridiculous for one simple reason:  A person cannot help what they are attracted to.  Simply finding the shape, curves, movement, etc, of an animal sexy doesn't make a person somehow inherintly bad or disgusting or evil.  A person doesn't decide whether or not to feel that way.  The only fair question one can pose is that of "is it right or wrong to act on such feelings?"  I would say it is wrong due to the whole inability to give consent, which has already been discussed at length.  But here's something to consider; animals can't give consent to be (often forcibly) artificially inseminated or forcibly and repeatedly bred for farming/meat industry purposes.  They also can't consent to being slaughtered.  Now, I still eat meat, so I'm kind of a hypocrit.  I'm not going to go down that road specifically because I don't want to derail the topic.  My point is just that it's interesting how we as a species tend to get all bent out of shape over some issues, and often look the other way on others.  One other interesting thing to consider: rape is rampant in the animal kingdom, and probably more harmful to the animal than if a person engaged in a sexual act with them in a caring and respectful manner.  Not saying I'm pro-sex with animals.  Just an interesting thing to think about, that's all.

It's because of the fact that in our culture, people view rape as the ultimate crime, worse than murder. Granted, murder is a higher penalty, but you get the point. 

 

The animal can't consent to being slaughtered, but there have been attempts to rectify this by making it painless and what not. But with sex, the animal can't consent like a child can't and so yeah. I believe it falls under animal abuse or something.

 

OT: Zoophilia is fine, bestiality is wrong

[Jeric 46,857]

Yep, this is a weird topic. I also have to admit that some of the Pony avatars have reactions that almost fit the post.

 

Anyway. I have an IT degree, but a Minor in Psychology.  I bring that up, because the psychology of sexual fetishes appears to have been a vogue subject since someone here mentioned studying deviant fetishes as well. The s*** I learned in that class, and how common it is, shocked the living hell out of me at the time. Anyway, while zoophilia, schediaphilia, plushophilia, yiffing, and clopping, and petplay may have shared similarities and could conceivably be grouped in a sexual fantasy version of a taxonomic nomenclature, there are worlds of difference behind the motivation and desires that separate them.

 

If I posted the studies showing how many men fantasize about raping women during sex, many of you would lose all faith in our species. Same for the number of women who have ravishment fantasies and dreams.

 

I also voted 'wrong' ... because zoophilia is just plain disgusting. The rest of the ones mentioned in this thread as linked to zoophilia are odd, but understandable and mostly innocent.

 

I wish I could undo that course. I so wish I could have just Minored in Business.

Edited May 9, 2014 by Jeric

[Celestia3D3 17]

If it is how you swing, then that is how you swing.

[Sir Wulfington 276]

The animal can't consent, it is rape. You are going to get charges for animal abuse

Not true at all, if they don't want it, they'll make it very clear through body language, which can involve you're death. Sex with animals is perfectly fine assuming it's physically safe and they don't show any indication they have a problem with it. You may as well say we can't ride horses if they don't verbally say we can, if to you someone or something can only consent if they say they want it. Body language can tell you everything you need to know. 

[Hive King 2,001]

Not true at all, if they don't want it, they'll make it very clear through body language, which can involve you're death. Sex with animals is perfectly fine assuming it's physically safe and they don't show any indication they have a problem with it. You may as well say we can't ride horses if they don't verbally say we can, if to you someone or something can only consent if they say they want it. Body language can tell you everything you need to know. 

According to the law, the animal doesn't actually know what it's doing. Kind of like having sex with a minor. Minor can consent all they want, but they aren't in the correct mindset to consent. 

 

Not to mention that in the case of certain animals, internal damage can be caused