Tirek's Horns & Pendant. Possible Symbolism.

[Kel_Grym 1,917]

 

These horns...these flipping horns. Why do they remind me of an Egyptian god's headress? I'm trying to think of which one, but I'm coming up with nothing. Is it even relevant? Is it just an aesthetic choice, or were the designers referencing something...

 

Actually now that I think of it, it kinda reminds me of the eye of Sauron.

 

 

But that horn design has got to be coming from somewhere, I just can't think of it.

 

Or am I reading too much into it?

 

 

Hathor?

 

[edit: Thread name has been edited to include pendant.]

Edited May 15, 2014 by KelGrym

[Argumedies 1,748]

Ya I keep wondering how long it will take for someone to make a Tirek picture with the eye of Sauron in his horns

[Kel_Grym 1,917]

Ya I keep wondering how long it will take for someone to make a Tirek picture with the eye of Sauron in his horns

 

Just what we need. Mobile Eye of Sauron.

[Argumedies 1,748]

Just what we need. Mobile Eye of Sauron.

And it needs to be animated lol

[SasQ 1,380]

Hathor?

Yup. Thinkin' the same thing... See my post here from 10:20 AM.

 

Or am I reading too much into it?

Nope ;J

Edited May 12, 2014 by SasQ

[Kel_Grym 1,917]

Yup. Thinkin' the same thing... See my post here from 10:20 AM.

 

Cool. So I wasn't the only one thinking it. I'm thinking it's just aesthetic though, cause I can't think of any deeper implications than that.

[SasQ 1,380]

Me neither yet. But I think it's worth further investigation. Maybe there's something more than meets the eye, as with many other symbolism & mythology in MLP:FiM.

[Sunny Fox 5,961]

Heck, Ichigo from Bleach once launched a Cero from between his freaky horns.

 

 

 

 

 

Not exactly unique symbolism at work here.

[Kel_Grym 1,917]

Isis also has horns.

 

 

So the horn thing with a sun disc in it is pretty prevalent in Egyptian mythology.

 

But really, when I think of Tirek, I find more he has more resonance with Moloch, which supposedly translates to King.

 

 

Also, associated with a horrific form of human sacrifice.

 

 

I think there is some vague visual similarity with Baphomet as well.

[edit]

 

Oh, new thing!

 

I've identified Tirek's specific species.

 

http://www.theoi.com/Georgikos/KentauroiKyprioi.html

 

He's a Cyprian Centaur.. Or at least that's the closest thing he comes to.

Edited May 12, 2014 by KelGrym

[SasQ 1,380]

I wonder if there was any Egyptian Neteru who would have such horns and not be a female. Because Hathor's and Isis' gender doesn't quite fit Tirek. The sundial between the horns is the only connection.

 

You're right about Moloch meaning "King". It's quite common ancient root (M-L-KH), with words such as Malik, Moloch, Malchut/Malkhut (see Twilight's Kingdom) stemming from it.

 

I'm not sure about the Baphomet though. Except horns, it doesn't fit much.

 

Same with Sauron's Eye, since Tirek didn't use his plasma ball to watch through infinity. He was rather accumulating energy there.

Edited May 12, 2014 by SasQ

[Kel_Grym 1,917]

@@SasQ,

 

You got a point. I haven't found any male gods with that type of headgear.

 

Only thing about baphomet that even made me consider it, is the devil parallel and the torch between his horns. But it's still not very similar to a sun disc.

 

I'm out of ideas for now...went as far as to look into inspiration for g1 Tirek, but all I got was a possible reference to Ernst from the old James bond movies.

 

• In Tirek's first scene, his face is not seen, and he is running his hand across the Rainbow of Darkness as if petting a cat. This is most likely a reference to the James Bond villian, Ernst Stavro Blofeld.
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http://villains.wikia.com/wiki/Tirek_%28My_Little_Pony%29

Edited May 12, 2014 by KelGrym

[Jeric 46,884]

Plenty of horned gods of antiquity, but none that I'm aware match exactly to Tirek's nature or his sphere of magic. I can check some ancient Indian and West African imagery and lore when I get home. His initial simian appearance may indicate some Fertile Crescent connection too.

[Vedana Purity 221]

If you turn the horns 45 degress forward, they remind me of The Devil, in that movie that I have forgotten the title name.

[SasQ 1,380]

"Tenacious D and the Pick of Destiny"?

 

 

Or maybe you mean "Legend" by Ridley Scott?

 

 

There seem to be some similarities. Especially the second one: there were Unicorns too

[Kel_Grym 1,917]

@@SasQ,

 

Reminds me of Lurch the Bull.

 

 

Which brings us to another question.

 

Which animal horns do Tirek's resemble the most? I think it's a species of antelope, but I'm not sure which one.

 

 

Impala? Problem is, his horns aren't rimmed.

Edited May 12, 2014 by KelGrym

[Untitled Goose Q 5,138]

Tirek's horns reminded me of Nicol Bolas.

 

 

At least partly because of the gem Nicol keeps between them.

[Kel_Grym 1,917]

So I've been thinking about the  horns again. And this is my current theory.

 

It's obvious that Tirek is a negative subliminal statement made against Rock n Roll. Look at the horns. They're an outline of the body of a guitar and the energy he collects appears in the right place for the hole to be.

 

What does this mean?

 

It clearly means Hasbro is equating Tirek with Rock n Roll, and by extension, equating Rock n Roll with the devil.

 

So there you have it. Hasbro is brainwashing kids into thinking Rock n Roll is devil music.

[Sugar Pea 2,683]

LOL
Sauron....
I would be so happy if they made a LOTR reference in MLP.

[Argumedies 1,748]

So I've been thinking about the horns again. And this is my current theory.

 

It's obvious that Tirek is a negative subliminal statement made against Rock n Roll. Look at the horns. They're an outline of the body of a guitar and the energy he collects appears in the right place for the hole to be.

 

What does this mean?

 

It clearly means Hasbro is equating Tirek with Rock n Roll, and by extension, equating Rock n Roll with the devil.

 

So there you have it. Hasbro is brainwashing kids into thinking Rock n Roll is devil music.

He can be the new Ultra Boss level in Guitar Hero and he can drain you of your musical rainbow star power.

 

(Ah ya my new head canon!!!)

Edited May 14, 2014 by Argumedies

[SasQ 1,380]

It clearly means Hasbro is equating Tirek with Rock n Roll, and by extension, equating Rock n Roll with the devil.

 

Yeah, and they make "Equestria Girls 2: Rainbow Rocks", solely about Mane Six starting their own Rock'n'Roll band?

Something clearly doesn't add up to...

 

Also, I haven't heard much rock music in Season 4 finale.

 

Also also, there are other types of music which can be played on guitar.

Edited May 14, 2014 by SasQ

[Kel_Grym 1,917]

@@SasQ,

 

Well damn...all that research for nothing.

[SasQ 1,380]

Don't worry, keep going There's also this piece of pimp jewelry to crack:

 

 

 

But I'll save it for another thread (when I find something substantial about it already), to not disturb this thread.

[Kel_Grym 1,917]

@@SasQ,

 

I've been thinking about that pendant, but I can't come up with anything.

 

It does look like a face though.

 

Almost like a comical golden skull.

[Hive King 2,001]

There's a resemblance to Freeza's horns

There is also a resemblance to Granzeboma and its crown

[Kel_Grym 1,917]

It's probably too far a stretch, but part of the pendant looks like it incorporates something that vaguely resembles this Tengrian crescent, that is supposedly used in Tengrian revival groups, but I haven't confirmed that for certain.

 

Any resemblance to the moon would be significant, since Nightmare moon was inspired by Tirek.

Edited May 14, 2014 by KelGrym