Power Levels for Season Finale

[Hive King 2,001]

@@pony.colin,

Why should Cadence be stronger? She was taken down easily by Chrysalis, someone established to be very weak when not on love

 

I think dashes, pinkie, and AJs can all be changed!
I mean applejack could probably kill a stallion with one kick, that's pretty powerful!
Dash can do a sonic rainbooom that's pretty powerful!
And I mean, pinkie has like 28382443299 energy points that's strong x3

1. Is there any evidence for this? Regardless, her power difference is enough to do that

2. Again, her power advantage is more than enough for that

3. Pinkie is likely the weakest of the Mane 6 save for Fluttershy. Eating cake constantly will destroy physical might

[~Sole~ 852]

I'd like to point out where you said goku's best punch couldn't destroy king Kai's planet is wrong. In BoTG, a pissed SSJ3 Goku punches a giant hole in it with a single punch.

 

Also, I think Dash should have a seperation power level when using her sonic rainboom. Perhaps about a 25?

[Side Bird 566]

@@pony.colin,

Why should Cadence be stronger? She was taken down easily by Chrysalis, someone established to be very weak when not on love

 

 

1. Is there any evidence for this? Regardless, her power difference is enough to do that

2. Again, her power advantage is more than enough for that

3. Pinkie is likely the weakest of the Mane 6 save for Fluttershy. Eating cake constantly will destroy physical might

1. Yeah she bucks apples, that takes some strength, and do you see how many apples she bucks? AJ probably has a really strong kick.

2. Skip two! Cause I kinda agree!

3. Well no, Pinkie is fast, crazy, and she burns off all that fat she'd gain with just how active she is. She could be pretty strong and fit with all that jumping running and bouncing.

4. About Cadence ((oh just noticed the discussion kinda)) She could be stronger. She did hold up that huge barrier around the crystal empire which probably takes a good feat of magic.

[Adorkable 2,737]

@@Adorkable, 

 

Why so? Cadence is weak as piss and she's an alicorn. I honestly don't have the alicorns as anything special, any unicorn who trains hard enough can get to their level, like Sunset Shimmer and Sombra. 

 

To be honest, I don't have Twilight too powerful. After all, she's not the be all and end all. Considering that Twilight didn't realize that Trixie was foul play until told means that there are unicorns of Alicorn Amulet Trixe's level out there. Twilight is a prodigy, but in the end, she's still young and has a lot of time to grow into her power

 

To me, all alicorn did was add a power boost. A boost of 20 seems fair to me, Cadence probably recieved the same boost

 

That beginning part isn't very nice.

 

Still, your entitled to your opinion, friend. I'm just stating that I would think turning to an Alicorn would receive a huge power boost.

 

Also, we're talking about Twilight Sparkle, even before she was a Princess she had amazing power, and I just felt her turning into an Alicorn was a huge jump. Being the Element of Magic helps too! ^^

[pony.colin 156]

@Evil Dragon Master

 

The exact details on how Chrysalis imprisoned Cadance isn't brought forward if I recall (so we don't know if Chrysalis simply over powered Cadance or she simply got the jump on her).

 

Cadance has some offensive and defensive magical power

 

- She did defend hold the magical barrier defending the Crystal empire against Sombre (note she did this on days without sleep and with little food so she has some endurance capability). - if Shining Armour was the stronger of the two in producing shield magic  - wouldn't it have been logical to have had SA put up the barrier and to have Cadence go and meet the gang rather than the other way around?

 

- Not as big, but to a lesser degree, magical barrier for holding against germs (i.e. Discord's fake cold scenario)

 

- Love magic - which is a different type of magic - but Cadance can acted as a secondary battery power to restore SA's magic

 

She's not the strongest, but she isn't weak.  Or at least I think you threw her a bit low.

Edited May 13, 2014 by pony.colin

[Hive King 2,001]

 

 

I'd like to point out where you said goku's best punch couldn't destroy king Kai's planet is wrong. In BoTG, a pissed SSJ3 Goku punches a giant hole in it with a single punch.

But he didn't destroy it 

 

And fair enough

 

 

4. About Cadence ((oh just noticed the discussion kinda)) She could be stronger. She did hold up that huge barrier around the crystal empire which probably takes a good feat of magic.

It only worked because Sombra is weak to love

 

 

That beginning part isn't very nice

Sorry, it's not a big deal with some people

 

 

The exact details on how Chrysalis imprisoned Cadance isn't brought forward if I recall (so we don't know if Chrysalis simply over powered Cadance or she simply got the jump on her).

Cadence knew plenty about her captor, I'd say that she wasn't jumped

 

 

She did defend hold the magical barrier defending the Crystal empire against Sombre (note she did this on days without sleep and with little food so she has some endurance capability). - if Shining Armour was the stronger of the two in producing shield magic  - wouldn't it have been logical to have had SA put up the barrier and to have Cadence go and meet the gang rather than the other way around?

The problem is stated by Shining Armor. He would do it, but Sombra can negate his magic, whereas with Cadence, her love and light is dangerous to him. Love is super effective!

 

 

- Love magic - which is a different type of magic - but Cadance can acted as a secondary battery power to restore SA's magic

All she did was give him her love, which in MLP world, is a tangible force like friendship 

[pony.colin 156]

 

 

Cadence knew plenty about her captor, I'd say that she wasn't jumped

 

 

Possible that she knew knowledge about Cadance that she would knew when best she could be lulled into a false sense of trust against a disguised Chrysalis - but not knowing the details of how Chrysalis got in Canterlot in the first place is information that is needed.

 

 

 

The problem is stated by Shining Armor. He would do it, but Sombra can negate his magic, whereas with Cadence, her love and light is dangerous to him. Love is super effective!

 

 

 

Doesn't SA say that piece of information, only after he gets Chlamydia his horn negated by Sombre's magic - what about before hand?  SA doesn't have a touch of "love and light" in his magic?  surely that must account for some extra power - (and as I said, she did it days without sleep or little food, test of endurance, but how many days, is not when it's explaining, but still, some endurance).

 

If you are going to throw up Shining Armor(Shield): 100 then what's Cadance's shield power?

[Yellow Diamond 7,578]

I'm pretty sure that Twilight Sparkle's power level in this form is easily over one million.

 

CUE SHOCKED FACES FROM VEGETA, KRILLIN, AND GOHAN

[Hive King 2,001]

 

 

Doesn't SA say that piece of information, only after he gets Chlamydia his horn negated by Sombre's magic - what about before hand?  SA doesn't have a touch of "love and light" in his magic?  surely that must account for some extra power - (and as I said, she did it days without sleep or little food, test of endurance, but how many days, is not when it's explaining, but still, some endurance).

Yes and no. He said that he'd do it himself, but Sombra had negated his magic. Considering Cadence had already been doing it for a while, presumably, Sombra has some sort of shield counter. Again, endurance and power level don't scale. Freeza, for example, was almost equal with SSJ Goku, but his endurance wasn't

 

 

If you are going to throw up Shining Armor(Shield): 100 then what's Cadance's shield power?

Since all attacks or shields have amp, other wise why bother using them, I have it at 70

[OceanSapphire 227]

How is Sunset Shimmer above Discord? She had the least impressive showings of any main villian to date. Even AA Trixie had better feats.

[Forlong 1,726]

 

I'm sorry.  I couldn't resist. :comeatus:

[Carbon Maestro 1,003]

Princess Twilight power level >9000

 

 

 

And here I see the title hoping this comment would appear. It has. XD

[yeet 2,027]

I believe the friendship power was actually over 9000.

[Steel Accord 6,660]

A more consistent scale is actually provided by TVTropes

 

Here's the scale on average:

 

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SuperWeight

 

And here's the section containing MLP: FiM

 

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/SuperWeight/WesternAnimation

 

Weight classes were flying all around during this two parter!

 

I would say Tirek, at his peak was probably a World Weight (5), with the Mane Six coming to about his level when they went Rainbow Saiyan. 

[Hive King 2,001]

@@Steel Accord,

Huge overrating. Tirek is a moon buster more likely, not a planet buster. Consider the Moon being roughly a tenth the size of Earth 

How is Sunset Shimmer above Discord? She had the least impressive showings of any main villian to date. Even AA Trixie had better feats.

Because, whatever she corrupted required a shot of its own to heal

[Zekromic 1,054]

This is 110% true facts. No one can argue.

Not to mention they often make logic while in drugs XD.

Twily's power level

[OceanSapphire 227]

Because, whatever she corrupted required a shot of its own to heal

I fail to see how that compares to making logic your bitch. Discord could just turn her into an apple and be done with it.

Edited May 15, 2014 by OceanSapphire

[Malinter 3,064]

 

Pinkie Pie: 7

 

 

Pinkie can have any number between one and infinity.

 

Her HP/MP bars always appear glitched and are shown as a jumble of letters and symbols. XD

[Hive King 2,001]

I fail to see how that compares to making logic your bitch. Discord could just turn her into an apple and be done with it.

If he could do that, why not do it against Tirek? His reality warping(kind of lame to begin with) doesn't work on things stronger than him

 

Pinkie can have any number between one and infinity.

 

Her HP/MP bars always appear glitched and are shown as a jumble of letters and symbols. XD

Yeah, too bad that rule of funny doesn't count

[Malinter 3,064]

If he could do that, why not do it against Tirek? His reality warping(kind of lame to begin with) doesn't work on things stronger than him

 

Yeah, too bad that rule of funny doesn't count

 

i'm serious. Some times pinkie's warping is on par with Discord. XD

[Hive King 2,001]

i'm serious. Some times pinkie's warping is on par with Discord. XD

By that logic, Hercule is stronger than SSJ2 Vegeta since he tanked a shot from Kid Boo.

[Malinter 3,064]

By that logic, Hercule is stronger than SSJ2 Vegeta since he tanked a shot from Kid Buu

 

Hercule's stupidity can take alot of damage. XD

[Hive King 2,001]

Hercule's stupidity can take alot of damage. XD

Breaking news, Hercule can beat the piss out of Vegeta

[Malinter 3,064]

Breaking news, Hercule can beat the piss out of Vegeta

 

I'd have mixed feelings about that XD

 

reminds me of Roshi during the Cell games.

 

"Sorry guys, i'm rooting for Cell on this one." XD

[OceanSapphire 227]

If he could do that, why not do it against Tirek? His reality warping(kind of lame to begin with) doesn't work on things stronger than him

 

 

 

I find it funny how you call Discord's reality warping lame while giving praise to Sunset who's only accomplishments were turning Snips and Snails into demons, removing a wall from the school, mind controlling a few dozen teens, and firing off an energy blast of unknown power. Discord turned Ponyville into the chaos capital of the world. He made buildings levitate and 2 dimensional. He drank glass, turned choclate milk into a grenade, time travelled, made himself 2 dimensional, made clones of himself, removed limbs, mindfucked the mane 6, made the sun and moon rise/set and various other shit. Him not using his power on Tirek could be a case of plot induced stupidity or as you said Tirek was too strong for Discord's magic to work. Hell Tirek wasn't all that impressive based on showings but since he had the magic of Discord and the alicorns we knew he was capable of far more. Sunset lacks anything to really scale her power off of though and has nothing to prove that she can negate Discord's power. Edited May 16, 2014 by OceanSapphire