MiStErUnMeRry

So...right. Because the rest of my explanation says that. You do use songs to dazzle people also since defacto most songs are burst of powerful emotion vocally and visually. You don't ever have a song where the characters are half heatedly wandering off with no accompanying interesting animation. Even when the animation is lacking, its normally done so to accommodate the songs power in pace and strength. Like Hell fire.

I watched the video and it gave me....nothing. It might be due to my head spinning right now. I've been watching this season from episode one and I at no point felt anything. All I felt was embarrassment for the show due to the horrid writing that it had been forced to endure. Just telling me that sacrificing writing and actual development to slap me with a league of songs make it fix anything nor wipes away the transparent rushed pace of it all doesn't make it any better. That weak...at best. So, based on the feeling the songs gave me, this was the worst episode ever. You use songs to dazzle people, to gap the dialogue, to shift large amounts of talking or to simply set an atmosphere. Disney doesn't spam songs at you, it uses them at best as a short introduction and then has a obligatory villain song to set his atmosphere/ personality basis in a small time frame, its used to express great desire or dreams. Thing that are in nature very important to a said character or have extreme emotions linked to them. They are used to express key characters point. Hence why the villain encounters may have songs too, since this is the introduction of the villain as his/ her goals. In other times they are used to picture a community, which to its credit MMC did sort of do in the start. As the community is indeed an un-focused and important part of any character. Example: Princess and the frog: New Orleans-Community and intro. I got friends on the other side-The villain deal and goal. Almost there- Main character goal and how she is connected to community. You got to look inside(whatever its called)-the progression of the goals of each character and the introduction of a new one. Song are very good at creating fast progression...the key word being fast but they should also have meaning, they should resemble key points and important parts. If I am getting a song that legitimate about a important part/ character trait/ goal or whatever within two minutes after one another, that basically flipping a chapter of a book instead of a page. Hence why it has progression issues, it also makes the emotions within these songs a commodity and lack the mark or impact they had. Even in songs there job is to convey something and move it along, not solve it entirely. It isn't the song jobs to come in and go "Don't worry characters. I'll mop up here!" thats the song stealing the spot light from the characters themselves, I should have more personality in the mane six than seeing a sad face, trying to convince me that this song is more powerful and important that the last three I just had a second ago. Then when celestia finally comes In I'm numbed to it all, its no longer important to me. Its just throwing the same thing over and over again to move stuff out the way, going all out with the voice actors and animation in some vague hope that It will be enough to keep me happy to the end, same with the speech and the tears. Well, no. I want writing, actual writing. I want the mane six, not a damn musical where the musician are playing the parts. Conflict is not conflict if all they do is make a sad face then immediately fix a problem. it should of taken a page of out Discords return episode 2. Anything has potential. I could morph twilight and pinkie pie into a gay couple called stave and eric who like to lift weights and throws parties and I still pull crap from the air about the possibilities. I shouldn't HAVE to be fed the possibilities, I shouldn't HAVE to ask questions. I shouldn't have to be told by my fellow bronies over and over again that waiting for it will yield results. No, this was the finale. This one episode, this was was what we got for the season ending and it left me with nothing but a few songs, a bunch of questions and a shocked expression on my face. Telling to me watch it over again dosen't suddenly inspire me to like it. Its not like a burning fire enriches my soul and I'll convert on the spot my opinions. If I have to have other people explain the plot to me or fill in the plot holes to me then that is bad conveyance or outright bad writing. If I have to be told that I need to wait and see the potentials then that is bad appeal and CONVEYANCE You can't go shuffle away the issues by begging people to look to the future, that nothing more than a really nice way of asking me to forgive the episode it self and hope the future ones will do better or fix it writing wise, If the episode was good I wouldn't need to have others implore me to look forth to the future, I would actively look forward to it myself in optimism. Its ironic that twilight being the main character card is being pulled because we didn't see a single shred of twilight personality within the mist of all these songs and bad writing. they focused on twilight purely because they couldn't even get one character personality into the episode and story progression, let alone six. I honestly could replace twilight voice and just stick a unicorn OC in her place and everything would be the same. Hell, they couldn't even explain half the plot. it was a bail out of an episode. We got a deus ex machina spell that comes out of nowhere that overly does all this stuff...because...magic, I guess. We got a mystical void realm just out of nowhere for no reason. When you make a mystical void realm, especially with no reason beforehand or at least clues to it, that writers code for "OH MY GOD WHAT THE FUCK AM I WRITING quickly. Quickly. Just shove a god realm in there and try to pretends its mystical!" No. I think throwing songs at me and pretty visual along with some hollow speeches plus some tear animations won't make me sad, it won't make me angry, it won't even make me entertained. It will make me bored. I went into this objectively. I gave no cares towards twilicorn or the episodes. I was a little iffy about what this will lead to or if it was true but that it at best. Re-watching it won't change what it is. Saying the logic behind the songs doesn't mean they aren't forced, fast, overkill and skips actual character development, pretty much defeating the mane six even being there. They could be any characters for all I care and how the hell or why the hell would I feel for someone accomplishment if it doesn't provide the character itself for this moment. Telling me the possibilities doesn't change the present, which is a massive mistake. If your lone episode causes rifts within a fandom. That a bad episode. The fandom is a reflection of the product, the fact its gotten so confused and uppity to the point that it had to have its own sub forums speaks clearly on what it has done. Is the episode god awful? Nah. Its not THAT bad. It has a lot of good points...but with its all out and gun blazing attitude, it made its flaws just as clear and shining to see.

You never stated an opinion. You asked us to give her a chance. I'm explaining to you how that signals failure to begin with. At no point did I ever say you could not hold an opinion nor did I claim that you was wrong on the belief that the writers could fix this. I never supported nor did I ever say that the writers could not fix this, I merely stated that the writers may be only able to actually fix it in a number of tries, that being one story to regain the faith of the anti's. I never said I don't like twilicorn, I never made that claim. I said I do not like the finale. At no given point did I say the concept of twilight becoming a princess is a bad thing in any form. Its funny you say that I don't speak for a collective when your original posts includes an anonymous We, which entails speaking on a collective plea. Perhaps you should take a deep breath and relax, read what I wrote again.

Any writer that closes the finale off with a horrid and rushed episode and then informs the audience that its intro to the other season is actually the rest of the finale is testing the patience and limits of its fandom, it simply folly conduct and not a nice thing to do to your supporters overall as well as confusing for people that are new to the series. THIS was season 3 finale, period. We gave her time, we waited and let the plot get our attention for the final episodes and it was pathetic to say the least. If the idea is so bad that you need to beg, plead and ask people to be forgiving of it or wait for it, especially after it already gave it piece then that demonstrates the anti's points more than any of our argumentation ever could. The proof is in the pudding. Anyone that is honest and would look at its effects on the fandom would know that it has failed. It can be fixed but it has already caused damage that may-may being operative word- never be fixed and is very easy to cause the fandom to bleed to death if it gets any more agitated. If it is repaired then that will be great but MLP FIM is also a business and it less costly to bid the pro-twilicorns against the anti's if things go pale for us. This may be a one shot chance for the writers. EDIT: I would say indifferent. Its the episode itself that rankles me since I am an avid believer that most ideas will work with a good enough writer although Darkqiviut has made a lot of points that I feel I can get behind against her. I still say indifferent.

Twilight sparkle did not fix her own destiny, the spell was actually a fluke sent to test her understanding of friendship by giving her everything she ever desired. Celestia approval and constant attention, high status and the absolute top of the pony hierarchy, being associated and out doing Star Swirl the bearded, somepony she respects deeply. The spell is merely there to simulate a perfect life for twilight while leaving her friends behind to drag in the dust despite all offering more or equal things to things to the world as she has. She either choose to stay with her friends rather than become a princess or an alicorn, thus shirking her life eating royal duties and the change in social status equilibrium along with her power and immortality ectr or she accepts it and fails her test. Maybe the spell is there to test her friendship due to a new villain arriving or perhaps Celestia just in a trolling mood today. Also. People who ask to give alicorn twilight a chance. No, That was her episode job. To convince us to give her a chance. It failed.