mega thread Feminist Club!

[Heliodor 156]

So, this has been bugging me lately, and I figured I'd share my thoughts here.

 

The thing that's been bugging me is this idea that a girl can only be one type of girl. For example, a girl can be feminine, tomboyish, geeky, etc. but they can't be all at once. And that idea bothers me. I really like flowers and pink and other feminine stuff, but I also like staying up all night chugging soda, eating pizza and playing video games. I could talk about geeky stuff like the intricacies of Pokémon battling all day. So, yeah, just wanted to say that.

I'm in the same boat... I'm a gym rat and trying to get into weight-lifting more, I hike mountains, etc. But I also like dresses and painting my nails. Sometimes it actually gets me down because I pressure myself, asking So which one are you?! which is a stupid question but I still ask it. -_- It makes me just want to pick one so I don't have to deal with the supposed incompatibility of the other...

[The JLmle 5,476]

I know the feeling... I'm typically a "tomboy" type of girl... Go to work in jeans and a t-shirt (most everyone at my store does) wearing no making... Every once and awhile when I feel like dressing up nicer; especially if I wear a skirt or dress; oh my gosh people freak out! Act like they don't even recognize me... It's kinda funny actually!

[IridscentNionios 1,420]

So on the note of women lacking representation or focus in the tv... I think we are viewing this wrongly. When in my country's Tv the programm says

1)Morning news

2)Morning talk show/gossip

3)Cooking reality show

4)News

5)Comedy tv series gossip

6)Spanish intrigue tv series

7)Turkish intrigue gossip series

8)News

9)Reality singing show

10)Movie

I can't with honest heart say that women aren't getting attention in Tv. So when once in four years men gather around the TV to watch the Euro Cup or Mundial and i see in talk shows "Guide on how to survive the Sports season" i internally want to muffle a scream of frustration.

 

Women don't lack the attention... They lack the PROPER REPRESENTATION. So essentially you don't want "more" female representation and empowerment... You want "better" representation. That is all. There's no point of making an already female/old people dominated TV more dominant by those people if all they are going to produce is female focused "dung quality" shows.

 

In other words... Less fashion shows, less shows like sex and the city, less Oprah talk shows... More quality, more... I dunno... Come on guys contribute!

 

Fun fact. Ypatia was a famous Ancient Greek mathematician. She was said to be so beautiful she had to perform lectures behind a curtain. Crazy shit amirite?

[chaos rains 190]

 

Actually everything is misrepresented on tv and thats why I despise watching it I mean I like entertaining movies but thats why I watch dvds and not tv. Men are represented as sleezy morons who like to get wasted and always go out to get laid meaning have sex with so many women and scratch there balls while picking there noses as they watch a game with a cold beer. I despise football I like the idea of escaping reality in such a way but not the way the game is just shoved down our throats likes its something real special. I dont like the way my fellow men like to chase women for one goal infact I saw a programme called what happens in kavos where one of the holiday guys said he saw fresh meat when a young woman passed him. I wanted to seriously disfigure the prick for it pardon the language. Media is by far the ultimate form of misrepresentation. Even the local news and foriegn news is bad representation. Screw media and live outside the box. Mlp is a great example of gaining ground in this gender role fight so dont take this as im against everything on tv. Things like mlp for example and some other programmes has some true entertainment without being stupid and going over the top is worth watching

[Jennabun 1,579]

 

 

So, this has been bugging me lately, and I figured I'd share my thoughts here. The thing that's been bugging me is this idea that a girl can only be one type of girl. For example, a girl can be feminine, tomboyish, geeky, etc. but they can't be all at once. And that idea bothers me. I really like flowers and pink and other feminine stuff, but I also like staying up all night chugging soda, eating pizza and playing video games. I could talk about geeky stuff like the intricacies of Pokémon battling all day. So, yeah, just wanted to say that.

I know exactly what you mean. Personally, I'm very high femme: I wear dresses every day, I love bright colors & sparkles, I bake, clothes/nail polish/purses make me happy... and so on. But I hate when people use these facts about me to assume completely inaccurate things about me. Being a girly girl doesn't mean I can't also be sharp and intellectual. Being girly girl doesn't mean my primary goal in life is to get married and make babies. Being a girly girl doesn't mean I am a human doormat and that I will blissfully take everybody's shit. People always assume I must be this easily-manipulated, shallow, naive, delicate little tulip and it absolutely infuriates me.

 

When I loggfed on and saw this thread, I was brought to tears... thank you for making it possible to disscuss with fellow pony lovers about feminism, and helping other realize its importance!

Beautiful work!

*hugs*

Eeeeee! This makes me so happy!!!

[Zoop 8,384]

Women don't lack the attention

 

 Let's pull some numbers. Mileage may vary depending on exact locale, but... o3o

 

http://i.imgur.com/yKvsGAE.png

Just a small amount of bias in favor of males here.

 

http://i.imgur.com/rwftw1l.png

Looking here, it looks like reality television is the only truly balanced category, with news coming in second. Everything else has a decently significant disparity. 

 

 

 

They lack the PROPER REPRESENTATION

 

You are right that they lack proper representation, though. Let's look at some more things.

 

http://i.imgur.com/A3XZMH3.png

Over sexualization much?

 

 

http://i.imgur.com/heXqWXs.png

 

I think this speaks for itself?

 

Images pulled from some of the sources below, all of which are worth taking a look at.

 

http://seejane.org/wp-content/uploads/key-findings-gender-roles-2013.pdf

http://seejane.org/wp-content/uploads/key-findings-gender-disparity-family-films-2013.pdf

http://womenintvfilm.sdsu.edu/files/2013_It's_a_Man's_World_Report.pdf

 

And, for a bit of further reading, you might take a look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celluloid_ceiling

 

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Soo... yeah. Women are honestly under represented in mainstream media, with the representation they do have in media being less than ideal, both on and off screen.

 

I don't mean to start an argument or anything, but I think it is worth seeing the numbers where these things are considered, because ... well, the disparity is kind of significant, to say the least.

 

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Edit: Apparently the hook that MLPF uses to download and re-host remote images went screwy, breaking my image embeds. Added regular links to the images, but have left the broken embeds in place just in case the hook magically starts to work at some point. :V

[chaos rains 190]

nice however looking at most music videos like jay z bulldog 50 cent tiny tempah britney spears shakira jamelia one direction nd many many more we see what the men are standing around dancing women with thongs and bras and sometimes can even be completelh nude but that shows at midnight and rarely oh and miley cirus wrecking ball she sits on a ball scantily clad. Not much sexualization huh lmfao its friggin pathetic yet and not complaining guys just have tops off with these women rubbing against them THE ULTIMATE MISREPRESENTATION.

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quote name="Zoop" post="3018476" timestamp="1408813698"]

Let's pull some numbers. Mileage may vary depending on exact locale, but... o3o

 

Just a small amount of bias in favor of males here.

Looking here, it looks like reality television is the only truly balanced category, with news coming in second. Everything else has a decently significant disparity.

 

 

 

You are right that they lack proper representation, though. Let's look at some more things.

 

Over sexualization much?

 

I think this speaks for itself?

 

Images pulled from some of the sources below, all of which are worth taking a look at.

 

http://seejane.org/wp-content/uploads/key-findings-gender-roles-2013.pdf

http://seejane.org/wp-content/uploads/key-findings-gender-disparity-family-films-2013.pdf

http://womenintvfilm.sdsu.edu/files/2013_It's_a_Man's_World_Report.pdf

 

And, for a bit of further reading, you might take a look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celluloid_ceiling

 

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Soo... yeah. Women are honestly under represented in mainstream media, with the representation they do have in media being less than ideal, both on and off screen.

 

I don't mean to start an argument or anything, but I think it is worth seeing the numbers where these things are considered, because ... well, the disparity is kind of significant, to say the least.

Edited August 23, 2014 by chaos rains

[Jennabun 1,579]

Soo... yeah. Women are honestly under represented in mainstream media, with the representation they do have in media being less than ideal, both on and off screen.

 

I read this article recently that said the same thing. It focused on the top films that came out in theaters. Consistently, the movies tend to have a male-skewed cast. Female characters only accounted for 29.2 percent of speaking roles in 2013's films. Veryyyyy disappointing.

 

Ironically though, films with female main characters were some of the top grossing. Hunger Games: Catching Fire came in first place and Frozen came in third. People try to justify the lack of female representation saying, "But male characters bring more money to the box office!" but that's not really true.

 

I'm hopeful that, since it's been proven that movies that focus on women can bring in money, female representation will become a more popular thing in the next few years. But only time will tell.

[Zoop 8,384]

 

 

I read this article recently that said the same thing. It focused on the top films that came out in theaters. Consistently, the movies tend to have a male-skewed cast. Female characters only accounted for 29.2 percent of speaking roles in 2013's films. Veryyyyy disappointing.

 

Yeah, it is a thing sadly. I think the headline to that article is very much worth highlighting as well, and is actually something that I had meant to mention but had forgotten to.

 

"Women in film: no improvement since the 1950s"

 

Kind of a big thing, that. ^^;

 

 

 

Ironically though, films with female main characters were some of the top grossing. Hunger Games: Catching Fire came in first place and Frozen came in third. People try to justify the lack of female representation saying, "But male characters bring more money to the box office!" but that's not really true.

 

Amusing thing about that... I can't remember the exact source, but films with female focused casts tend (though I'm sure things like Hunger Games and such are exceptions to this) to be given significantly smaller budgets than those that are male dominated. I guess people don't think they're worth investing in? x_X

 

 

 

I'm hopeful that, since it's been proven that movies that focus on women can bring in money, female representation will become a more popular thing in the next few years. But only time will tell.

 

It's hard to say. It would be nice, but I think the immense male bias when it comes to creative control might be a bit of a road block to this, at least in the near future.

[chaos rains 190]

I read this article recently that said the same thing. It focused on the top films that came out in theaters. Consistently, the movies tend to have a male-skewed cast. Female characters only accounted for 29.2 percent of speaking roles in 2013's films. Veryyyyy disappointing.

 

Ironically though, films with female main characters were some of the top grossing. Hunger Games: Catching Fire came in first place and Frozen came in third. People try to justify the lack of female representation saying, "But male characters bring more money to the box office!" but that's not really true.

 

I'm hopeful that, since it's been proven that movies that focus on women can bring in money, female representation will become a more popular thing in the next few years. But only time will tell.

Well on that I love watching sigourny weaver Jennifer aniston sandra bulloch mellisa sotto who played a bad ass in mortal kombat sonya blade kirsten dunst courtney cox shes ok the woman who played trinity in the matrix was brilliant. She sacrificed herself for new to live stealing the spotlighf I think

kirsty alley geena davis. This is a miniature list of amazing female cast. But somewhat over looked. Oh and michelle rodriguez and jordana brewster. Michelle I love to bits for being so feministic if you will. Shes always been in a non stereotypical role from what ive seen take fast and furious for example shes more manly than vin lol pardon the phrasing.

[Jennabun 1,579]

 

 

miley cirus wrecking ball she sits on a ball scantily clad

 

I'd be hesitant to say Miley's "Wrecking Ball" is an example of negative female representation. Miley was not a sexual object in that video. She was nude, yes -- but she wasn't nude for the male gaze. It was an artistic choice that she consciously made in order to match the vulnerable tone of the song. I don't think her nudity is problematic in the slightest. The only problematic thing was how people reacted to it: calling her a slut, shaming her body/sexuality in general, criticizing her appearance, etc. The reactions were incredibly sexist, not the video itself.

 

Here's some things she'd said about the video's meaning:

 

"I think the video is much more. If people get past the point that I'm naked and you actually look at me, you can tell that I actually look more broken than even the song sounds. The song is a pop ballad. It's one of these songs that everyone is going to relate to, everyone has felt that feeling at one point. If people can take their minds out of the obvious and go into their imagination a little bit and see kind of what the video really means and the way it's so vulnerable. And actually if you look in my eyes I look more sad than my voice sounds on the record. It was a lot harder to do the video than it was to record the songs. It was much more of an emotional experience."

 

"Lets get something straight. You guys don’t understand my music video. So let me explain it to you. I kiss the sledge hammer to show that I secretly still love the pain. I’m naked to show how Liam destroyed me, I become emotionally “stripped and naked” meaning I’m hurt on the inside. The wrecking ball symbolizes a destructive of love, hence the song title. (The wrecking ball breaks the walls and I’m left lying in the remaining of it) so instead of calling me a “slut” or a “whore” realize I’m trying to tell a story of a love that went wrong and destroyed me emotionally."

[Shawn Parks 1,798]

I thought this group would be interested in an article from NPR that I saw today:

 

http://www.npr.org/blogs/monkeysee/2014/08/23/342397137/feminism-in-a-run-down-taffy-factory-the-women-of-bobs-burgers?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=npr&utm_term=nprnews&utm_content=20140823

 

 

 

Feminism In A Run-Down Taffy Factory: The Women Of 'Bob's Burgers'

 

[Jennabun 1,579]

I thought this group would be interested in an article from NPR that I saw today: http://www.npr.org/b...ontent=20140823

 

YES! I absolutely love Bob's Burgers. I'm surprised the show hasn't been brought up yet!

 

[chaos rains 190]

I'd be hesitant to say Miley's "Wrecking Ball" is an example of negative female representation. Miley was not a sexual object in that video. She was nude, yes -- but she wasn't nude for the male gaze. It was an artistic choice that she consciously made in order to match the vulnerable tone of the song. I don't think her nudity is problematic in the slightest. The only problematic thing was how people reacted to it: calling her a slut, shaming her body/sexuality in general, criticizing her appearance, etc. The reactions were incredibly sexist, not the video itself.

 

Here's some things she'd said about the video's meaning:

 

 

"I think the video is much more. If people get past the point that I'm naked and you actually look at me, you can tell that I actually look more broken than even the song sounds. The song is a pop ballad. It's one of these songs that everyone is going to relate to, everyone has felt that feeling at one point. If people can take their minds out of the obvious and go into their imagination a little bit and see kind of what the video really means and the way it's so vulnerable. And actually if you look in my eyes I look more sad than my voice sounds on the record. It was a lot harder to do the video than it was to record the songs. It was much more of an emotional experience."

 

"Lets get something straight. You guys don’t understand my music video. So let me explain it to you. I kiss the sledge hammer to show that I secretly still love the pain. I’m naked to show how Liam destroyed me, I become emotionally “stripped and naked” meaning I’m hurt on the inside. The wrecking ball symbolizes a destructive of love, hence the song title. (The wrecking ball breaks the walls and I’m left lying in the remaining of it) so instead of calling me a “slut” or a “whore” realize I’m trying to tell a story of a love that went wrong and destroyed me emotionally."

 

My apologies just seeing so many videos of such things I hope you can understand why I got the wrong idea but what about her stage performance where she was dancing against the other popstar basically sexually rubbing on him that didnt help her much. I think it was the awards but anyway I think she got the wrong kind of attention again there. Even annie lennox an amazing singer had to complain about it and plus there is better ways of getting a point across. Oh and im not sure if its true but there is meant to be a more mature video of wrecking ball. I could be wrong its just what I heard.

Ok I just have to ask why the bloody hell after many centuaries we have never once learned to get along and treat each other like we expect to get treatedas this just drags on and on and on with no chance of stopping where is all the people fighting for equality apart from those of us discussing it and the activists who are putting themselves in harms way to achieve it. Wheres the politicians and the famous people ? I am an equallist and I see all as equal and not one soul should be left behind for any reason. Women and men may be physically different in a very small way but we are or should be equal in every way. Same with colored people same with homosexuals and so on. If we harm nobody then who the hell is anybody to tell us we are bad or vile or whatever we are all human right down to the bonemarrow and thats what counts. We can live as we deem fit not as these moronic media freaks or politicians or anybody else tells us and ladies please do wear mens clothing and if I choose ill wear a dress and even love it. We are all who we choose to be and thats how it should be.

 

Apologies for raving.

 

Live free from the flock and find who you truelly are.

[IridscentNionios 1,420]

Let's pull some numbers. Mileage may vary depending on exact locale, but... o3o

 

http://i.imgur.com/yKvsGAE.png

Just a small amount of bias in favor of males here.

 

http://i.imgur.com/rwftw1l.png

Looking here, it looks like reality television is the only truly balanced category, with news coming in second. Everything else has a decently significant disparity.

 

 

 

 

You are right that they lack proper representation, though. Let's look at some more things.

 

http://i.imgur.com/A3XZMH3.png

Over sexualization much?

 

 

http://i.imgur.com/heXqWXs.png

 

I think this speaks for itself?

 

Images pulled from some of the sources below, all of which are worth taking a look at.

 

http://seejane.org/wp-content/uploads/key-findings-gender-roles-2013.pdf

http://seejane.org/wp-content/uploads/key-findings-gender-disparity-family-films-2013.pdf

http://womenintvfilm.sdsu.edu/files/2013_It's_a_Man's_World_Report.pdf

 

And, for a bit of further reading, you might take a look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celluloid_ceiling

 

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Soo... yeah. Women are honestly under represented in mainstream media, with the representation they do have in media being less than ideal, both on and off screen.

 

I don't mean to start an argument or anything, but I think it is worth seeing the numbers where these things are considered, because ... well, the disparity is kind of significant, to say the least.

 

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Edit: Apparently the hook that MLPF uses to download and re-host remote images went screwy, breaking my image embeds. Added regular links to the images, but have left the broken embeds in place just in case the hook magically starts to work at some point. :V

I based this on the programms Greek TV shows... Thus your rather enthusiastic debunking of a portion of my arguement is needless.

 

I believe that women watch more tv than men. Unless you have a chart on that i am going to stick to this. In any case tv has been on the decline.

 

The majority of shows are more "open" to female audience. Meaning there are more types of shows a woman will watch rather than a man.

 

Also most pics i see here dont work.

Edited August 23, 2014 by NioniosTheRenegade

[Heliodor 156]

I know the feeling... I'm typically a "tomboy" type of girl... Go to work in jeans and a t-shirt (most everyone at my store does) wearing no making... Every once and awhile when I feel like dressing up nicer; especially if I wear a skirt or dress; oh my gosh people freak out! Act like they don't even recognize me... It's kinda funny actually!

 

Yeah, people don't make it easy to switch "roles" if you will. It's really annoying. I used to boycott dresses forever because I have skin issues, and I would never want to have bare legs. I also hated the "girly girl" label as Jennabun mentions (the "airhead boy-crazy" stereotype). I think I'm more femme now although I get the sides of my head buzzed.   I still identify more butch but I love how some dresses look. I also have to find a legit corporate job now so I probably have to wear dresses or something.   If I don't show leg or anything people think I'm a man...which is like, fine, whatever, but then they get really offended when they figure out I have a female body, like I went out of my way to trick them...wth.

[chaos rains 190]

Yeah, people don't make it easy to switch "roles" if you will. It's really annoying. I used to boycott dresses forever because I have skin issues, and I would never want to have bare legs. I also hated the "girly girl" label as Jennabun mentions (the "airhead boy-crazy" stereotype). I think I'm more femme now although I get the sides of my head buzzed. I still identify more butch but I love how some dresses look. I also have to find a legit corporate job now so I probably have to wear dresses or something. If I don't show leg or anything people think I'm a man...which is like, fine, whatever, but then they get really offended when they figure out I have a female body, like I went out of my way to trick them...wth.

If they really think your male just laugh at them and thats it since they arent really guys themselves just infants with brains in the wrong areas of there bodies and beauty doesnt stem from how you dress or crap like that its who you are. If people only see what you wear and the look of your skin and not who you are then the stupidity is theres to bear since you and most people here if not all to me seem like amazing people. Trust me only shallow fools will turn there noses to people like you or the rest of us. Dont worry about others opinions not even mine just follow yours.

Edited August 23, 2014 by chaos rains

[Heliodor 156]

If they really think your male just laugh at them and thats it since they arent really guys themselves just infants with brains in the wrong areas of there bodies and beauty doesnt stem from how you dress or crap like that its who you are. If people only see what you wear and the look of your skin and not who you are then the stupidity is theres to bear since you and most people here if not all to me seem like amazing people. Trust me only shallow fools will turn there noses to people like you or the rest of us. Dont worry about others opinions not even mine just follow yours.

 

Aww, well thanks, that is very kind of you. I was really harassed about it growing up but people get over it more quickly now, I think. Yeah, it can be hard to break down stupid stereotypes/gender expectations. Even when I don't agree with those stereotypes I'm still mindful of them and get anxious if I don't have anything femme to accent my outfit...mainly because I don't want people to stir shit up, which I've had happen -- IN PUBLIC -- before. Terrible.  All gender expectations suck!

[chaos rains 190]

Aww, well thanks, that is very kind of you. I was really harassed about it growing up but people get over it more quickly now, I think. Yeah, it can be hard to break down stupid stereotypes/gender expectations. Even when I don't agree with those stereotypes I'm still mindful of them and get anxious if I don't have anything femme to accent my outfit...mainly because I don't want people to stir shit up, which I've had happen -- IN PUBLIC -- before. Terrible.  All gender expectations suck!

such division is pointless and only ever fuels hate and makes bigger crevices so we all need to strive to become better than this. Jenna did a great job creating this post even if some people did feel upset by it non femenists but thats why the choice to leave is theres also. You should be proud of who you are no matter how you look to anybody and NEVER let it get you down and hey maybe one day we will have beaten the gender role and we will see men and women and every other so called stereotype living peaceful lives without being brought down. I will always be an equalist in that we need equality in everything freedom to be who we want and to live in peace its a massive dream and maybe I do sound like miss America but whatever the case its what I believe our path should lead to.

[Sigma 768]

This portion of the video reminded me of the issues brought up in this thread, so I felt that I should share it.

Edited August 24, 2014 by Asterisk Propernoun

[Jennabun 1,579]

Can I just say I was so stoked to see this in Beyonce's VMA performance!?

 

 

The quote about feminism that is inserted into Beyonce's song "Flawless" is from a TED Talk by Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie. I absolutely love it:

 

We teach girls to shrink themselves to make themselves smaller. We say to girls, "You can have ambition, but not too much. You should aim to be successful, but not too successful. Otherwise, you will threaten the man." Because I am female, I am expected to aspire to marriage. I am expected to make my life choices always keeping in mind that marriage is the most important. Now, marriage can be a source of joy and love and mutual support, but why do we teach girls to aspire to marriage and we don't teach boys the same? We raise girls to see each other as competitors, not for jobs or for accomplishments (which I think can be a good thing), but for the attention of men. We teach girls that they cannot be sexual beings in the way that boys are. Feminist: the person who believes in the social, political, and economic equality of the sexes.

 

Both Beyonce's performance and the TED Talk are awesome to watch.

[Birdwing 87]

Here are some of my thoughts...

 

I've always been a strong believer in gender equality. I'm a biomedical scientist doing a phD, and I quite decidedly became a feminist when people began to tell me I wasn't chosen based on my academic record, but rather, because I'm 'hot', and my supervisor wants to sleep with me. 

 

Harassment plagues my workplace. T-shirts of naked women, screensavers of naked women, right in my face. If I express concern, I get told I'm an angry person because I listen to too much metal music. If it's my week to stock the shelves with lab equipment, I get told "Maybe we should help you, that's too much work for a chick." 

 

I'm not trying to bag out men; I know only a handful of men act this way, just as a handful of women can be cold-blooded [insert word of choice here]. I just never thought this sort of attitude could still prevail in this day and age. Really makes me wonder. 

[chaos rains 190]

Here are some of my thoughts...

 

I've always been a strong believer in gender equality. I'm a biomedical scientist doing a phD, and I quite decidedly became a feminist when people began to tell me I wasn't chosen based on my academic record, but rather, because I'm 'hot', and my supervisor wants to sleep with me. 

 

Harassment plagues my workplace. T-shirts of naked women, screensavers of naked women, right in my face. If I express concern, I get told I'm an angry person because I listen to too much metal music. If it's my week to stock the shelves with lab equipment, I get told "Maybe we should help you, that's too much work for a chick." 

 

I'm not trying to bag out men; I know only a handful of men act this way, just as a handful of women can be cold-blooded [insert word of choice here]. I just never thought this sort of attitude could still prevail in this day and age. Really makes me wonder.

 

 

I am a guy but when I hear other guys speak like that I feel like I want to let loose as no woman should be treated like a damn object. I watched a program with my mother a while ago about kavos holiday place and this english kid was acting so dumb at one point he saw two girls walk by and his response was fresh meat which was a refrence to girls he wanted to have sex with. A lot of british guys are just vile in this way especially here in scotland. Where as if guys see a girl who is different in a slight way they would act like its the end of the world. Difference scares people. But anyway this gender thing is utterly vile.

[Enigma Stitch 51]

Yay! I'm glad we finally got a topic on this... As everything else about feminism on this forum always seems to be criticizing of it. Yet in this topic we get criticized for circlejerking. >.>

 

 

And it's funny, because of all of the feminism blogs I have ever encountered on Tumblr they are ALL like that.

 

It seems to be a common fail amongst those particular women on tumbler...

Do you remember when they threw a metaphorical rock at 4chan?

It ended badly for tumbler i hear....

[Jennabun 1,579]

I read this article today (7 Reasons Why Class is a Feminist Issue) and I felt like it brought up a lot of good points about how classism and feminism are extremely interlinked. I will note that this particular article references American statistics, so if you're in another country it may still be worth reading, but you'll have to find your own stats about classism where you live. Classism is something to try to be aware of, especially if you're a middle class person who has never had to experience financial woes. It's so true that money is power, and without money, many minority groups face an uphill battle trying to change their sociopolitical standing.

 

Also, on a different topic, I thought this video was really cool.

 

A woman named Ileana Jimenez teaches an elective feminism course at LREI school in New York. The video shows high school boys who took the class being interviewed about how they think of feminism after taking the course. I think that this is super awesome, and that more schools should offer elective courses where they can learn about stuff like this. LREI is considered a "progressive, private school" that encourages learning about diverse communities and promotes social justice, so I can definitely see how a feminist course fits into their whole vision. I could also see this elective course being vastly helpful to people in the public school system here in the US, but sadly, I'm pretty sure (at least in the state and school district where I live) they wouldn't be thrilled about supporting a class like that.