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Uh isn't that primarily in West Africa? You know, a country without nearly as many vaccinations & disease control as the US? I think that it is a *bit* of a stretch to say we will see a huge amount of deaths in the US caused by the Ebola virus...

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Really?

 

 

The chance of this actually spreading far enough to endanger the US, (or in fact other countries well away from the currently affected area) is slim.

 

Frankly, if anyone actually thinks the US will be wiped out by it, they have allowed the media to scare them too easily.

 

EDIT: It's also actually only about 75% mortality rate. Not good, but not as bad as 90%.

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Uh isn't that primarily in South Africa? You know, a country without nearly as many vaccinations & disease control as the US? I think that it is a *bit* of a stretch to say we will see a huge amount of deaths in the US caused by the Ebola virus...

 

Actually its from tropical Africa.

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Actually, the current Ebola outbreak affects a few countries in west Africa, mainly Liberia, Sierra Leone, and Guinea. With regards to whether the Ebola virus is "coming", between the WHO, national health departments, and the CDC, I wouldn't be too concerned. In the developed world, we have high-quality healthcare and various protocols to deal with this kind of outbreak.

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Actually, the current Ebola outbreak affects a few countries in west Africa, mainly Liberia, Sierra Leone, and Guinea. With regards to whether the Ebola virus is "coming", between the WHO, national health departments, and the CDC, I wouldn't be too concerned. In the developed world, we have high-quality healthcare and various protocols to deal with this kind of outbreak.

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/60-oklahoma-dental-patients-test-positive-hepatitis-hiv/story?id=18991527

 

 

At least 60 people have tested positive for hepatitis or HIV after visiting an Oklahoma dentist slammed by the state dental board for poor sterilization practices, the Tulsa Health Departmentsaid today.

Dr. W. Scott Harrington allegedly re-used needles, a practice that can contaminate ostensibly sterile drugs with dangerous diseases. He is also accused of using rusty equipment that was not properly cleaned.

I must remind you, again that our government sometimes can be lazy.

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Actually, when it comes to highly lethal viruses like ebola, it is easier to avoid it because the people who catch it die so fast.  You don't have carriers of the disease like HIV that can propagate the virus.  When you are dead you cease to be a vector.

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Actually, when it comes to highly lethal viruses like ebola, it is easier to avoid it because the people who catch it die so fast.  You don't have carriers of the disease like HIV that can propagate the virus.  When you are dead you cease to be a vector.

Actually some viruses do transmit after death... I am not sure if Ebola is one of them, but I will say this; If an outbreak happened & there were diseased bodies, it would be much easier to avoid them in a place like the US or UK than in the countries these originate from.

 

Something else I want to say; If Ebola could truly wipe us out, then how come there are still people alive in South/Central Africa? I mean, they get cases of it quite commonly. If they aren't wiped out yet, then I think a more modernized country should be ok

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There always seems to be a new type of virus or sickness that comes along that seems to have the potential of wiping everyone out but ends up being contained and treated.

 

There's always the chance that it could happen though.

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There always seems to be a new type of virus or sickness that comes along that seems to have the potential of wiping everyone out but ends up being contained and treated.

 

There's always the chance that it could happen though.

The media does so love to hype things up.

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There always seems to be a new type of virus or sickness that comes along that seems to have the potential of wiping everyone out but ends up being contained and treated.

 

There's always the chance that it could happen though.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1918_flu_pandemic

 

The Spanish flue is an example of occurrences resulting in deadly consequences. Again, precautions should be taken.

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I heard that with ebola, it doesn't start transfering from host to host until symptoms start appearing which I guess would make containing it a lot easier as long as you had records of patients and contacts.  The problem is whether or not people are getting themselves to hospitals  in west Africa in time to be tested and have ALL of their contacts checked and quarantined as well.  One could easily slip through the cracks and cause a lot of people to get sick.

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This is a real thing?

 

I just edited my post because I thought that this was more monster shouting about the end of the world, but there may be something to worry about here. Not doomsday worry ... but worry

 

Are the aerosol reports on newscasts accurate, because if they are ... wow.

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The news hyperboles everything lol, I wouldn't take them too seriously

 

I normally don't, but considering that no one has ever been able to verify it is airborne and all of a sudden BAM ... it's possible now? I would have hoped that the news outlets learned their lesson after the Boston Marathon bombing.

 

Anyway, depending on how you look at it, the fact that gestation to death occurs so quickly a mass scale epidemic is unlikely. Still ... I remember the way people acted in the US during the swine flu.

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Anyway, depending on how you look at it, the fact that gestation to death occurs so quickly a mass scale epidemic is unlikely. Still ... I remember the way people acted in the US during the swine flu.

And the swine flu did what, exactly? Because speaking as a US citizen I never saw or talked to anyone who even KNEW someone who had been infected (excluding one doctor friend but, well, it is his job lol), & America is still here & kicking lol. Humans are much more resilient creatures than we are given credit for, & the idea that Ebola is going to wipe us out is just hyperbole made up for the news to get attention, like when they hype up killers in the media & attacked video games to get more support from their older audiences. In fact, really, a lot of the news people stretch stuff to make it more interesting for the older audiences since those are where the majority of their views come from. Which is why you see a lot of these crazy stories on Fox & CNN & stuff

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And the swine flu did what, exactly? Because speaking as a US citizen I never saw or talked to anyone who even KNEW someone who had been infected (excluding one doctor friend but, well, it is his job lol), & America is still here & kicking lol. Humans are much more resilient creatures than we are given credit for, & the idea that Ebola is going to wipe us out is just hyperbole made up for the news to get attention, like when they hype up killers in the media & attacked video games to get more support from their older audiences. In fact, really, a lot of the news people stretch stuff to make it more interesting for the older audiences since those are where the majority of their views come from. Which is why you see a lot of these crazy stories on Fox & CNN & stuff

 

*face palm

 

Why do I have the feeling that you were thinking I was freaking out over this because I may catch ebola? Yeah ... not for those reasons.

 

What the swine flu did was monopolized too much of the daily small talk and normal conversations that I value. It was worse that the constant rotating discussion on what the hell Miley Cyrus did on an awards show. I prize the spoken word to much to have it wasted on a regular discussion like that, which would become worse if people start talking about an airborne deadly virus.

 

Don't misunderstand me, I am not worried in the slightest for me and my family. I just hate having to be party to sheep speak.

 

I do worry for the Sierra Leone citizens however ... since I am not US-centric.

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*face palm

 

Why do I have the feeling that you were thinking I was freaking out over this because I may catch ebola? Yeah ... not for those reasons.

 

What the swine flu did was monopolized too much of the daily small talk and normal conversations that I value. It was worse that the constant rotating discussion on what the hell Miley Cyrus did on an awards show. I prize the spoken word to much to have it wasted on a regular discussion like that, which would become worse if people start talking about an airborne deadly virus.

 

Don't misunderstand me, I am not worried in the slightest for me and my family. I just hate having to be party to sheep speak.

 

I do worry for the Sierra Leone citizens however ... since I am not US-centric.

...Oopsie :P That was my bad lol, terribly sorry... But yeah I do remember that, everything I heard from the adults was panic over the swine flu. The people my age though were just using the internet & discovered there wasn't any real reason to panic lol, so we were all calm while the parents were freaking out like mad... I also remember Staff Infections being another big thing my family freaked over for no reason

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I visited The Centers Of Disease Control and Prevention website and it states:

"... Researchers have hypothesized that the first patient becomes infected through contact with an infected animal".

 

When an infection does occur in humans, there are several ways in which the virus can be transmitted to others.

These include:

- Direct contact with the blood or secretions of an infected person.

- Exposure to objects (such as needles) that have been contaminated with infected secretions.

 

So, this isn't something you can easily catch, unlike the Rhino Virus.

 

Also according to the same website:

"During outbreaks of Ebola HF, the disease can spread quickly within health care settings (such as a clinic or hospital).

Exposure to ebolaviruses can occur in health care settings where hospital staff are not wearing appropriate protective equipment, such as masks, gowns, and gloves.

Proper cleaning and disposal of instruments, such as needles and syringes, is also important.

If instruments are not disposable, they must be sterilized before being used again.

Without adequate sterilization of the instruments, virus transmission can continue and amplify an outbreak".

 

Unless you work in the medical field (such as a surgeon), work or live with someone who deals with human secretions, or work with disease-quarantined animals, you should be safe.

Now, I'm not saying that it's impossible to catch HF, but your chances of getting it are very low if none of the above apply to you.

Also, there hasn't been 1 case of HF in the United States recorded yet. There has been 1 in England and 2 in Russia. So, it's not like this is a rapidly spreading virus that will wipe out humanity by next week.

 

I admit, I am concerned about this outbreak.

However, I think that whenever something of this nature happens, people overreact and assume they'll get infected and die. Like, they act like there is no way to avoid getting sick.

 

So, let's recap...

You should be safe from HF (assuming your a doctor) properly sanitize utensils, stay away from possibly infected animals, stay away from contact with human secretions, and have not visited Africa recently (where the outbreak started).

 

Just wash your hands regularly, take vitamins, and RELAX!

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Yep ... after a week of that I was almost driven mad. My company even had ... get this ... MULTIPLE hygiene meetings asking people to wash their hands before leaving the restroom, handed out masks, and would send people home for the slightest sign of being sick. It was like the whole place went nuts.

If the US gets just one case the news and John Q Public are going to lose their minds.

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Listen. It is not the first time I hear about some "terrible virus" that "will kill entire humanity" from media. It is old boring story, just like more and more "apocalypse visions" and will not become true. It is just a way to attract viewers, because we are somehow more interested in reading about bad things instead of good ones. Don't listen to this nonsense, no death is coming our way, this virus will be finished same way as the ones before him and will not cause half as much damage as You suggest. Also - don't spread panic, there are children too for christ's sake and I already had one crying kid of my neighbour because of stupid news crying about upcoming apocalypse (that never happened).

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Depends on how dumb Europe wants to be with their quarantine and immigration. You will love. Ebola actually kills too quickly to spread if a population is smart enough to take advantage of that.

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