technology The Glorious PC master race thread

[Grumpy Enchantress 586]

No, it's for discussing different things about PC gaming. Not saying why you dislike it.

Meh, seems like why I dislike it falls into "different things" to me, personally. I wasn't trying to insult anyone.

 

Graphics don't matter until it gets to the point where it interferes with gameplay experience/immersion.

720p looks just fine in my opinion, though. I think having great picture is more important (although still not the most important thing ever) for movies, because that's more of something where you wanna sit back and enjoy what you're looking at. Games are interactive so you don't sit there admiring the scenery.

 

Again it's completely possible building fairly powerful PC for price comparable to that of console as shown in video I posted. And those people managed to put together fairly impressive PCs with only 300USD/300CAD within timespan of 8 hours. If you purchase such budget PC, you will save money compared to what you would have otherwise spent on consoles because you don't have to pay monthly/yearly fee to play online and you will be able to take advantage of Steam sales in which most games will have 75% discounts.

I don't play online ever, so I never pay monthly fees, personally.

 

Depending on your system you will not simply gain 1 more frame and 3 extra pixels, but perhaps more than double framerate than that of consoles at actual 1080p resolution.

I disagree. Every game that I play that I actually look at the frame rate of is 60fps. I've never seen one with only 30.

 

Subjective and is completely possible to make PC suitable for couch gaming. The beauty of PC gaming is that it's very customizable. And PC also has exclusive games.

It'd be way more expensive to set up a PC to your TV screen. PS4s are a better value. (Also, of course it's subjective. Everything I've said has been. Not relevant.)

 

Again, considering that you're casual gamer, it's not surprising that you don't have as high a standard in your gaming experience; not intended as insult but more that everyone has different expectations.

I have a higher standard, it's that playing games on your TV is awesome and way better than playing at a computer desk.

[Celli 4,338]

Meh, seems like why I dislike it falls into "different things" to me, personally. I wasn't trying to insult anyone.

Different things as in, sales, new parts, new games, showing off your PC, discussing game developers, the shoddy things they do. Expressing your opinion is fine, but as I said, there are better places for that. We all act civil, and we don't 100% praise PC gaming, we have our complaints about it, too. There's really no reason to come here and say why you hate PC gaming. 

Edited July 5, 2015 by Celli

[Grumpy Enchantress 586]

Different things as in, sales, new parts, new games, showing off your PC, discussing game developers, the shoddy things they do. Expressing your opinion is fine, but as I said, there are better places for that. We all act civil, and we don't 100% praise PC gaming, we have our complaints about it, too. There's really no reason to come here and say why you hate PC gaming. 

I didn't say I hate it, just that it's far inferior to console gaming.

[Celli 4,338]

 

 

I didn't say I hate it, just that it's far inferior to console gaming.

That's pretty much the same thing. Anyway, this discussion is going nowhere, so I'm not going to continue. You'd be best not to, either. 

[Azure Envy 1,092]

So, graphics cards...!

 

ASUS dropped their new 980 Ti STRIX with Armor Protection and Auto-Extreme Technology.

 

http://www.maximumpc.com/asus-unveils-armor-protected-strix-gtx-980-ti-graphics-card/

 

They claim it to be up to 30% cooler. Eat your heart out, Rainbow Dash.

 

Already itching for an upgrade.

 

I should stop looking for ways to blow cash.

[Grumpy Enchantress 586]

That's pretty much the same thing.

That's not true, because there are some games I like on the PC. Most of them are adventure games and are actually better to play on PC than on the console ports that exist for some of them. So I prefer PC games there.

 

I honestly don't like games that much in general, though. I just like quick fun games to pass the time, basically. Most PC games are like 50 hours long or longer, which I hate. I prefer Mario, because it's short. But that's just my opinion, though.

 

Anyway, this discussion is going nowhere, so I'm not going to continue. You'd be best not to, either. 

I agree that it's gone on too long, but I'm still replying to make it clear that I disagree that saying it's worse is the same as hating it. Some games are better on PC, but most are worse, in my opinion.

[Celli 4,338]

So, graphics cards...!

 

ASUS dropped their new 980 Ti STRIX with Armor Protection and Auto-Extreme Technology.

 

http://www.maximumpc.com/asus-unveils-armor-protected-strix-gtx-980-ti-graphics-card/

 

They claim it to be up to 30% cooler. Eat your heart out, Rainbow Dash.

 

Already itching for an upgrade.

 

I should stop looking for ways to blow cash.

I'm not going to upgrade my card again until the Geforce 1100 series comes out. I think my 970 will hold me off for a long time until them. Next thing to upgrade is my RAM, and then get a mechanical keyboard.

[Azure Envy 1,092]

I'm not going to upgrade my card again until the Geforce 1100 series comes out. I think my 970 will hold me off for a long time until them. Next thing to upgrade is my RAM, and then get a mechanical keyboard.

 

True, my 970 is probably gonna stick around for a while. I just find it impressive the 980 Ti can bench with a pair of 970s in SLI in some metrics. The performance delta is huge -- and it's still a single GPU card that'd work without me needing to upgrade my power supply. It's pretty phenomenal, I don't remember the last time (if there was) where we saw such a huge performance leap in the same generation.

 

I don't want to leave AMD out of this either. The 980 Ti was clearly aimed at (and priced to compete with) the Fury X.

 

Kinda sucks for all the Titan X owners, though. Only 3 months of being on top.

Edited July 5, 2015 by Lunatic Envy

[Celli 4,338]

True, my 970 is probably gonna stick around for a while. I just find it impressive the 980 Ti can bench with a pair of 970s in SLI in some metrics. The performance delta is huge -- and it's still a single GPU card that'd work without me needing to upgrade my power supply. It's pretty phenomenal, I don't remember the last time (if there was) where we saw such a huge performance leap in the same generation.

 

I don't want to leave AMD out of this either. The 980 Ti was clearly aimed at (and priced to compete with) the Fury X.

 

Kinda sucks for all the Titan X owners, though. Only 3 months of being on top.

Yeah, I get what you mean. Also, isn't the Titan X more for workstation builds than gaming, anyway?

[Azure Envy 1,092]

Yeah, I get what you mean. Also, isn't the Titan X more for workstation builds than gaming, anyway?

 

Kepler Titans only. Nothin' special about the Titan X aside from having 12 GB of RAM. Same neutered to hell DP performance as the other Maxwells. Not that it matters for gaming.

[Celli 4,338]

Kepler Titans only. Nothin' special about the Titan X aside from having 12 GB of RAM. Same neutered to hell DP performance as the other Maxwells. Not that it matters for gaming.

I see. I always thought the Titan series were for more-than-gaming builds.

[MountainDrew 1,877]

@@Grumpy Enchantress a PC has many more uses than just gaming as well.

 

I use my gaming rig for Folding@Home, Video Editing, hardware stress testing/benchmarking, and many more activities.  You see, a PC has multiple uses, which is one of the many reasons why I prefer it over the consoles.  I own a plethora of consoles as well and a ~$2500 PC; I can honestly say that I prefer PC gaming over the consoles.  

 

Why?

• Mods (shouldn't have to explain this one)
• Speed (better hardware)
• 60fps+ (anything less gives me a migraine)
• Customizability (I can actually choose what goes into my gaming rig and I can build it myself)
• KB+M (better controls for FPS, among other things)
• Quiet (Xbox 360 under stress sounds like an R9 290x on Uber mode)
• More graphics options (shouldn't have to explain why)

And the list goes on and on.

 

That's just my two cents.  Mostly reiterating what has already been said.

Kepler Titans only. Nothin' special about the Titan X aside from having 12 GB of RAM. Same neutered to hell DP performance as the other Maxwells. Not that it matters for gaming.

And I bet Nvidia will pull the exact same thing when the 'Big Maxwell' series of cards releases.

 

Release an "e-peen" GPU like the Titan X and then follow up mere months later with a card that performs almost exactly the same but costs ~$350 less.  Gaming performance-wise that is.

[Celli 4,338]

 

 

And I bet Nvidia will pull the exact same thing when the 'Big Maxwell' series of cards releases.   Release an "e-peen" GPU like the Titan X and then follow up mere months later with a card that performs almost exactly the same but costs ~$350 less.  Gaming performance-wise that is.

I would ask why they do that, but I think the obvious answer is more green.  

[Grumpy Enchantress 586]

@@Grumpy Enchantress a PC has many more uses than just gaming as well.

I agree. That's another reason I don't like PC gaming, though, because I don't want game data taking up space of more important stuff, personally. I think a good PC is a good investment that I'm going to try and get in the future, but it will be for animating and stuff.

[MountainDrew 1,877]

I see. I always thought the Titan series were for more-than-gaming builds.

I've heard that the Titan cards are much better for video rendering when compared to others.

 

However, the new GTX Titan X is absolutely horrible at double precision tasks when compared to the original Titan (which is kind of hilarious imo).

 

 

This is the only task I've seen the Titan X fail at, and it's pretty much a complete beast at everything else afaik.  Still a waste of $1000 if you're only gaming.

 

I agree. That's another reason I don't like PC gaming, though, because I don't want game data taking up space of more important stuff, personally. I think a good PC is a good investment that I'm going to try and get in the future, but it will be for animating and stuff.

Fair enough.  And I'm glad that you're giving PCs a shot, at least in the animation and editing department.

[Azure Envy 1,092]

I've heard that the Titan cards are much better for video rendering when compared to others.

 

However, the new GTX Titan X is absolutely horrible at double precision tasks when compared to the original Titan (which is kind of hilarious imo).

 

This is the only task I've seen the Titan X fail at, and it's pretty much a complete beast at everything else afaik.  Still a waste of $1000 if you're only gaming.

 

Fair enough.  And I'm glad that you're giving PCs a shot, at least in the animation and editing department.

 

That was the single best thing about the original Titans. It was like a Tesla K40 for 1/4 the cost. Granted it lacked ECC and had (only) 6 GB vs 12 on the K40, but if you had specific workload need, it was a steal, which is kind of weird talking about $1k worth of GPU but... all relative I suppose.

[long gone 8,929]

I agree. That's another reason I don't like PC gaming, though, because I don't want game data taking up space of more important stuff, personally. I think a good PC is a good investment that I'm going to try and get in the future, but it will be for animating and stuff.

Then why not have multiple storage drives? One for the OS, a few for games and a few for mass storage. That's what I do, anyway. But that way, game data and other files don't get lumped together.

 

Oh, and then on this...

 

It'd be way more expensive to set up a PC to your TV screen.

A good HDMI cable is $6...  You don't need any fancy hardware to connect a PC to a TV, just an HDMI cable.

[A Black Circle 1,586]

I agree. That's another reason I don't like PC gaming, though, because I don't want game data taking up space of more important stuff, personally. I think a good PC is a good investment that I'm going to try and get in the future, but it will be for animating and stuff.

I use to be as obnoxious as you... until I took a maturity to the brain. (Sorry, I've been playing a lot of Skyrim )

 

I do actually prefer consoles, though. Has more soul* to it.

 

*this means nothing at all, but I still like it and have every right to, even without present reasoning. As I like to say, illogic is just logic we can't comprehend.

[Grumpy Enchantress 586]

A good HDMI cable is $6...  You don't need any fancy hardware to connect a PC to a TV, just an HDMI cable.

Wait, but how to you add an HDMI output to a computer? Is that expensive or cheap?

[VictiniStar101 214]

Wait, but how to you add an HDMI output to a computer? Is that expensive or cheap?

It depends on what graphics card you use, but most modern graphics cards have an HDMI port on them

[Starlight Sky 374]

A kind soul pointed me here for guidance.

 

I'm certainly eager to join the PC master race, but have very limited knowledge on what to consider and look for.

 

My current laptop's on it's last lap. Out of place fan that Geek Squad marked as a death sentence, and blowing the dust out didn't cut it.

 

So, I'm looking forward to buying a desktop. Heard they're much more reliable and powerful than laptops, but that's just what I've heard.

 

I'm hoping to do more serious gaming on this one, and the ability handle video editing would be a nice bonus.

 

Any advice is appreciated, oh wise ones.

 

 

Budget: $500 - 600

 

Current readings

 

Edited July 5, 2015 by Starlight Sky

[Luna the Great of all the Russias 2,984]

A kind soul pointed me here for guidance.

 

I'm certainly eager to join the PC master race, but have very limited knowledge on what to consider and look for.

 

My current laptop's on it's last lap. Out of place fan that Geek Squad marked as a death sentence, and blowing the dust out didn't cut it.

 

So, I'm looking forward to buying a desktop. Heard they're much more reliable and powerful than laptops, but that's just what I've heard.

 

I'm hoping to do more serious gaming on this one, and the ability handle video editing would be a nice bonus.

 

Any advice is appreciated, oh wise ones. 

One important piece of information needed is your budget for new PC.

[Sweetie-Belle 180]

What should I upgrade next? I'm not upgrading too soon because I just got this PC, but I might upgrade at the end of the year.

 

[Celli 4,338]

What should I upgrade next? I'm not upgrading too soon because I just got this PC, but I might upgrade at the end of the year.

 

The first thing you should upgrade is your GPU. Depending on your budget, get one that will satisfy your gaming needs. Also, if it will last a while, that's a big plus. Looking at your CPU, that should handle most cards fairly well, unless you're going for something like a 980, then I'd probably get an FX 8350 or something.

If you have the money, a good card for that CPU would be something like an R9 290 or 290X. One more thing, what is your Power supply?

[long gone 8,929]

Wait, but how to you add an HDMI output to a computer? Is that expensive or cheap?

Most modern GPUs have an HDMI port on them. Even my motherboard has an HDMI port on it, due to the integrated graphics on the GPU. So, it depends on how expensive or cheap your GPU or motherboard (if you have an LGA115x Intel CPU or AMD APU) is.