gaming Hatred: Does it offend you?

[Omega Centauri 317]

So, in case you don't know, there is a videogame called "Hatred" that has recently been revealed, and it has ALOT of controversy going on.

 

Here's the trailer for it.

 

 

So if you don't want to watch it, it's basically a top-down shooter that revolves around killing as many innocent people you can before you get killed. And it goes into detail, too. People scream and beg for their lives and all that good stuff, and in general it's very gory.

 

So, does this game offend you? Why or why not?



Edited January 18, 2015 by Omega Centauri

[Barbaloot 198]

 

 

So if you don't want to watch it, it's basically a top-down shooter that revolves around killing as many innocent people you can before you get killed.

 

So... GTA then. People act like this is new or something. Shit has been around since forever. Hardly something to get offended about. 

[Hovershy 3,815]

Reminds me of the movie "rampage" and that airport mission from modern warfare 2.

 

 It doesn't "offend me" but I can see why people are against games like this. It does seem kinda fucked up. But, I think it's just a game that should be rated M. As Barbaloot said, it's not really anything that new.

[Banul 3,831]

Would I play it? No

 

For me to be offended though, it kind of depends on why they are making it. At face value it looks pretty bad, but maybe the whole point is to call attention to all the shootings that have been happening. Hard to say without more information. If it's just "lol see how many people you can kill" though, I might be butthurt about it.

[Omega Centauri 317]

Would I play it? No

 

For me to be offended though, it kind of depends on why they are making it. At face value it looks pretty bad, but maybe the whole point is to call attention to all the shootings that have been happening. Hard to say without more information. If it's just "lol see how many people you can kill" though, I might be butthurt about it.

Looks more like an arcadey type of game to me, it's PC exclusive, and probably won't cost that much. It's a classic "see how long you can go before you die" kind of thing.

[PROJECT: Simon 3,955]

Killing innocent people eh. Well thats screwed up. But it doesn't offend me because just. I really don't care.

[Moonlight 7,289]

It doesn't offend me in the slightest and actually sort of looks like a monochrome GTA-styled game. There are way worse stuff going on in real life to be worried about than some standard "Kill them all" type game, it's just a game, nothing more and nothing less. Though I like the guy's outfit, if that counts for anything. 

[Banul 3,831]

Looks more like an arcadey type of game to me, it's PC exclusive, and probably won't cost that much. It's a classic "see how long you can go before you die" kind of thing.

 

 

If that's the case, than I think its pretty shitty. I'm all for art being able to express itself in some pretty disturbing ways, but there has to be a point to it, it has to serve a purpose or convey a message. A game about killing civilians in the most graphic and detailed way possible just for fun is pretty disgusting in my eyes. 

 

After reading an interview from the devs, I also think they're kind of irresponsible:

http://www.gamona.de/games/hatred,interview-pc:article,2549037.html

 

Jarosław Zieliński: Innocent virtual people. That's the main point. Nobody get's harmed by our game. Anyway - war is a terrible experience for all soldiers out there, what would you say to them while playing Battlefield? But the difference is that soldiers are tough guys, not some moaning pussies, so they don't complain about their experiences being reference for virtual entertainment. Back to the beginning of your question: I'm really sorry for anyone who has lost beloved ones, but it doesn't have anything to do with our game.

 

According to them, theres no story or justification or anything. You just shoot people and that's it. Seems pretty shitty to me. At least Call of Duty pretends to have a plot. At least in GTA killing random bystanders isn't the point. 

Edited October 27, 2014 by Banul

[boiteporte 591]

After re-reading my post, I realised it would cause some confusion, so I am going to rewrite it entirely. I believe this is a controversial game. But, there are tons of more controversial games than this one.

 

Having played other controversial games, I realised that this one is not so bad., and therefore does not offend me.

The only controversial games that I played (out of pure curiosity) which really offended me were:

 

Ethnic Cleansing

KZ Manager

 

Now, those two are some really horrible games.

Edited October 27, 2014 by boiteporte

[Kyoshi Frost Wolf 42,071]

Oh no, a game where where we can kill non-real people made of pixels, that's never happened before in the history of stuff. (Good ol' tired sarcasm)

 

So there are still people freaking out about this type of stuff? I guess I cannot be too surprised anymore.

 

It's a video game. It isn't real, it is completely fictional, because anything you do in a video game has no bearings whatsoever on the world. Could someone potentially be influenced to snap and go crazy? Who knows, but that potential could be with any piece of media ever. For some reason, violence in games is always a target but stuff like the Saw films, which features gruesome and horrific torture (that looks waaaaaay more realistic and violent than in a game) is perfectly legit and fine to those same people.

 

I would much rather play a game like this than watch pointless torture porn films like Saw. At least in a game it obviously doesn't look like real people, you can tell they are pixel representations of humans. In movies, it usually goes far beyond that.

[Radiance64 7,053]

I've never been a fan of games that you can kill innocent people in... I mean even in games with helpless creatures I feel a little bad inside if you have to kill them. So, I would say that it offends me, but hey, if people have fun with this game it's not my business. As long as no one irl is really getting hurt it doesn't matter to me either, in the end it's just a game after all.

[[NULL] 907]

This game could either be one of the most intelligence-insulting examples of pandering in video games, or one of the most clever satires ever made. If it's the former, then I don't think it warrants a GTA comparison.

 

I don't know why I should be offended by it though. I guess the only "offensive" thing here is the possibility of the developers implying "This is what you like! We know that you're too stupid to comprehend deep stories or social commentary. We'll just make the game that Fox News' filtered eyes see GTA as."

Edited October 27, 2014 by SpaceOnion

[Sabrinie 392]

I don't find it offensive; it's a game. People tend to overreact and become oversensitive about everything...especially on the internet. I do think that people will start to use it as an example of how video games cause violence...which is utterly ridiculous, but still. Everyone has their own opinions on violence and society, but overall, if you're choosing to shoot up somewhere in a game, at least no one is getting hurt in real life. Who cares?

[Lucky Star 972]

when it comes to entertainment, anything should be aloud.

that what I say.

[ParsoOfEquestria 1,490]

it seems to me, someone is trying hard to remake the original Postal and have a complete lack of story besides "I hate everyone so I'll kill them all" at least Postal had many different analyses of what the story was about and either of those analyses correctly fit.

 

onto the proper topic. does it offend me? NO

I enjoy games like Postal, Manhunt and the like. 

Edited October 27, 2014 by ParsoOfEquestria

[FoxyCryptid 4,330]

I don't know if I'd play it, but there's nothing to be offended about.

 

It's tasteless and outdated, but that may be what the creators are going for, a throw-back to the 90s and early 00s when "dark and edgy" was in and the gaming market was largely a contest to see who could push the envelope the furthest. 

 

Also, as someone pointed out above: I don't see the need to be offended over a immature rampage game that's really no worse than a watered-down version of GTA or State of Emergency when shit like Ethnic Cleansing and games based on real-life school shootings where you play as the shooters exist. 

it seems to me, someone is trying hard to remake the original Postal and have a complete lack of story besides "I hate everyone so I'll kill them all" at least Postal had many different analyses of what the story was about and either of those analyses correctly fit

 

Postal II was better because it toned down the distributing by putting you in a crapsack world and playing a lot of the violence for satire and black-comedy.  

Edited October 27, 2014 by Shoboni

[CosmicHooves 2,705]

This seems very straight forward in killing innocent people.

Even more than any Grand Theft Auto game I've seen.

To be honest, I'm scared of what and who this game will influence.

Ya got a ton whack jobs out there who could actually go out to a gun store and do shit like this.

My hope is that they take this game from the shelves.

Video games about ruthless genocide are evil and do not belong in gaming stores.

[Adash 193]

it is just a game. it doesn't really offend me. I don't know if I would play it or not, but in all reality, I don't care. If you want to play it, go ahead.

[FoxyCryptid 4,330]

This seems very straight forward in killing innocent people.

Even more than any Grand Theft Auto game I've seen.

To be honest, I'm scared of what and who this game will influence.

Ya got a ton whack jobs out there who could actually go out to a gun store and do shit like this.

My hope is that they take this game from the shelves.

Video games about ruthless genocide are evil and do not belong in gaming stores.

 

No different then the four generations of gory exploitation movies(and take from someone that watches The Cinema Snob, some of that shit is nasty) that have come and gone or the numerous tasteless, bordering on so-bad-it's-good games released in the 90s like Harvester and Phantasmagoria(particularly the second one).

 

Shit, does the fact other games of equal violence try to justify it really make them any better? For an example outside of gaming, what about the Punisher? He's just as violent and gruesome in 18+ rated comics like the MAX series but it's excused because he's only killing bad-guys.     

[Banul 3,831]

Cooled off a bit after being sort of butthurt.

 

Anyway, my general philosophy is that you should be allowed to do what you want so long as you don't hurt yourself or others. So, I wouldn't presume to tell people that they shouldn't play this or that they can't make this game. That said, I think its a pretty shallow attempt to be 2edgy4u (Christ, listen to some of that monologue) and in pretty terrible taste considering recent events. So I guess I am offended.

 

There's also this: I'm not one of those people who think that you can blame video games for school shootings or whatever, but the game gives me the willies all the same. I'd be lying if I told you I wouldn't be a little concerned if I met someone who told me they were into this game. Hypocritical maybe, but there it is. 

[FoxyCryptid 4,330]

Cooled off a bit after being sort of butthurt.

 

Anyway, my general philosophy is that you should be allowed to do what you want so long as you don't hurt yourself or others. So, I wouldn't presume to tell people that they shouldn't play this or that they can't make this game. That said, I think its a pretty shallow attempt to be 2edgy4u (Christ, listen to some of that monologue) and in pretty terrible taste considering recent events. So I guess I am offended.

 

There's also this: I'm not one of those people who think that you can blame video games for school shootings or whatever, but the game gives me the willies all the same. I'd be lying if I told you I wouldn't be a little concerned if I met someone who told me they were into this game. Hypocritical maybe, but there it is. 

 

That much I agree with, I do think it's just a cheap attempt to get some controversy points and the team behind it is just trying way to damn hard to be dark and edgy(really, I think self-aware black comedy like Postal 2 would be a better route to go on something like this because you could have so much potential to satirize the ongoing craze of demonizing video games and questioning if enjoying violence is any better just because it's justified in games like The Darkness or Mortal Kombat) 

[M'aiq the Liar 5,804]

>black trench coat

>I haet teh world

>long black greasy hair

>2edgy4unewfiend

 

And really, at the end of the day it is just a video game, and with the interviews from the devs and the characters design, I am leaning towards the idea that this is just a master ruseman as everyone knows the media is gunna loose its collective shit at something that out edges bismuth like this. The entire thing really stinks of ruseman, and with how people are responding it seems to be working.

 

But it is just a video game, and one that is either a ruseman, or a shock value game. This is nothing new or ground breaking, and has been done in various forms throughout human history even before the advent of user made games. So no I am not offended by it, but as long as you don't begin a active campaign against it I don't think less of any that are offended by it. Because in the end, someone being offended is largely worthless, and not grounds for removal of something.

[CosmicHooves 2,705]

No different then the four generations of gory exploitation movies(and take from someone that watches The Cinema Snob, some of that shit is nasty) that have come and gone or the numerous tasteless, bordering on so-bad-it's-good games released in the 90s like Harvester and Phantasmagoria(particularly the second one).

 

Shit, does the fact other games of equal violence try to justify it really make them any better? For an example outside of gaming, what about the Punisher? He's just as violent and gruesome in 18+ rated comics like the MAX series but it's excused because he's only killing bad-guys.

Well the only violent game I play is GTA San Andreas.

You have the option to kill a bunch of people, but the game never tells you that you should.

Everytime the main character, Carl, kills someone for the sake of the storyline it's because his enemy is either a drug dealer who is doping up his fellow gang members, a rival gang member who wants to kill Carl, or a down-right corrupt cop who shoots Carl for bumping into the back of his vehicle.

The only storyline based killing Carl has done in the game that has truly bothered me ever since I've played the game was the time he assassinated the famous rapper "Mad Dog" just because his friend wanted him to.

 

This other game is very straight about going on a rampage and killing completely innocent people going about their daily lives.

Now these types of games, I have problems with.

This game promotes genocide.

That's what my main problem with this game is.

[Mand'alor Dash 2,225]

Guys, this is exactly what they want. We're talking about their idiotic murderporn video game just because it's murderporn. You've got the guys who want it banned, the ones who say "it's freedom of speech, but I'm still offended," and then the people who are morbidly interested, and will buy it just because it's controversial.

 

That last one is their target audience. Nobody with two braincells to rub together would have given this retarded game a second look if it wasn't "3edgy5me." And while I highly doubt that any prospective mass shooter will use this ridiculous thing as bootcamp, the idea is still prevalent enough in everyone's minds that these uncreative hacks can make their shitty game e-famous without even putting a smidgen of work into it.

[FoxyCryptid 4,330]

He's like Shinobu Sensui's mentally impaired brother that lacks all the depth, interesting backstory, character motivation, intelligence, and justification for hate.

 

So yeah, just go watch the Chapter Black Saga of Yu Yu Hakusho for a misanthropic character done right.  

Well the only violent game I play is GTA San Andreas.
You have the option to kill a bunch of people, but the game never tells you that you should.
Everytime the main character, Carl, kills someone for the sake of the storyline it's because his enemy is either a drug dealer who is doping up his fellow gang members, a rival gang member who wants to kill Carl, or a down-right corrupt cop who shoots Carl for bumping into the back of his vehicle.
The only storyline based killing Carl has done in the game that has truly bothered me ever since I've played the game was the time he assassinated the famous rapper "Mad Dog" just because his friend wanted him to.

This other game is very straight about going on a rampage and killing completely innocent people going about their daily lives.
Now these types of games, I have problems with.
This game promotes genocide.
That's what my main problem with this game is.

 

That's the interesting question though, is enjoying violence any better just because the story justifies or plays the "they're bad guys so it's okay" card? Does it really promote anything or his the main character a villain protagonist?