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@Tommyspud

Does your MLP Round Robin Tournament involve created wrestlers or real wrestlers?

Edited November 29, 2017 by Sparklefan1234

[Tommyspud 55]

Just now, Sparklefan1234 said:

@Tommyspud

Does your MLP Round Robin Tournament involve created wrestlers or real wrestlers?

Little bit of both(Appearances custom, movesets/ai not so much).

I custom made a bunch of MLP characters into a PS2 Japanese Wrestling Game, all custom appearances, but each one has a specific wrestler as a base. Like Twilight Sparkle has a John Cena base.

[Sparklefan1234 184,260]

1 minute ago, Tommyspud said:

Little bit of both(Appearances custom, movesets/ai not so much).

I custom made a bunch of MLP characters into a PS2 Japanese Wrestling Game, all custom appearances, but each one has a specific wrestler as a base. Like Twilight Sparkle has a John Cena base.

 

Cool!

Are you talking about "Fire Pro Returns"?

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Just now, Sparklefan1234 said:

 

Cool!

Are you talking about "Fire Pro Returns"?

YES, I AM.

[Denim&Venöm 21,037]

So here's an interesting scenario:

A dream 5 v 5 of the best second and third gen stars vs. The worst. 

 

My picks: 

Davey boy smith Jr, Eddie guerrero, Cody Rhodes, pentagon jr, and natalya

vs. Randy Orton, garett bischoff, Wes Briscoe, teddy hart and lacy von erich.

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7 hours ago, Tommyspud said:

Little bit of both(Appearances custom, movesets/ai not so much).

I custom made a bunch of MLP characters into a PS2 Japanese Wrestling Game, all custom appearances, but each one has a specific wrestler as a base. Like Twilight Sparkle has a John Cena base.

 

7 hours ago, Sparklefan1234 said:

 

Cool!

Are you talking about "Fire Pro Returns"?

 

7 hours ago, Tommyspud said:

YES, I AM.

 

Speaking of Fire Pro Wrestling Returns, it has one of the catchiest and most-underrated songs ever:

 

 

[Tommyspud 55]

It is a good song. That game's custom music is pretty great in general though.

[Mesme Rize 15,692]

Ladies and Gentleman, it's that time of the year again where the Wrestling observer decide their best and worst of the year in Wrestling. As we know, the year end for the observer on november 30 and december 2016 will still be considered here.

Without further ado, i start this list:

Lou Thesz/Ric Flair Award (Wrestler of the Year)

Tetsuya Naito from (NJPW) (Guy has been on fire the whole year and is in my opinion the total package in wrestling today. Great in ring, really good charisma, a gimmick that makes the people cheer, which as a heel is very hard in japan. I am sure he will become the new ace of New Japan, coming WK 12.)
Most Outstanding Wrestler

Kazuchika Okada from (NJPW) (no argument here. His three match series against Kenny Omega show you why he is the top in ring performer in wrestling and with Naito being his challenger at WK 12, it will be interesting to see if they can blow us away again.)
Best Box Office Draw
Brock Lesnar (WWE) (Yeah, his suplex city shtick is getting rather annoying these days, but he still puts alot of buts in the seats for Vince. Everytime he wrestles, people are interested and i also have to give him credit for his good match against AJ Styles at the survivor Series.)

Feud of the Year
 

Kenny Omega vs. Kazuchika Okada (NJPW) (Is this really an argument? WK 11, Dominion and G1 Climax, all matches where 5 star worthy and rank right up with the Ric Flair and Ricky Steamboat match series.)

Tag Team of the Year
 

The Usos (WWE) (You might be surprised, but i loved the Usos this year. Their heel turn and new gimmick was really what they needed and their matches have also become fun to watch again. I was really a fan of the Cell match of them against the new day.

Most Improved
 

Braun Strowman (WWE) (For someone who came in 2 years ago with no previous wrestling knowledge whatsoever and who i criticized alot, he became one of my favorites on the WWE roster this year. A dominant and rampaging Monster like Kane used to be. He really gained some knowledge in the ring.)

Best on Interviews

The Miz (WWE) (say what you want about the miz, but his mic skills are second to none, especially in a time of scripted promos in the WWE. He knows what it means to be a great heel and to get the crowd seething.)

Most Charismatic
 

Kenny Omega (NJPW) (Just a flatout fun guy inside and outside the ring. He is one of the big reasons why people outside of japan begun to watch New Japan as he brings out great promos in japanese and english. But he better not challenge me in tekken, because i would destroy him. )

Bryan Danielson Award (Best Technical Wrestler)

Zack Sabre Jr. (NJPW/PWG/Progress) (I know, it's getting boring. But can you say anything against Zack? He is the new Kurt Angle in my opinion.)

Bruiser Brody Memorial Award (Best Brawler)
 

Tomohiro Ishii (NJPW) (Ishii dosen't get much recognition as he should get because he is the best brawler since Mick Foley in my honest opinion and i think he will keep this award as long as he is wrestling.)

Best Flying Wrestler
 

Will Ospreay (NJPW/ROH/Progress) (Mr. Flippyshit as some critics like to call him is such a great highflyer, to the point where i ask myself how long his body will take all these crazy moves. I think if he goes on, he will be in a wheelchair in 10 years. Still, you can't deny Ospreays amazing talent.)

Most Overrated
 

Alberto el Patreon (Impact Wrestling) (It was close between him and Jinder Mahal, but i give the award to Alberto, because Anthem is of the opinion to put him right back in the title picture after Bound for Glory, after all the scandals and police reports against him this year. If i was a promoter, he wouldn't work for me anymore. Jinder is atleast a nice guy in private.)

Most Underrated
 

Cesaro (WWE) (Another year, another most underrated award for Cesaro. A guy of his talent should fight for the world title. But instead, he is pitted together with Sheamus in the tag team devision for a whole year now.)

Promotion of the Year
 

New Japan Pro Wrestling (New Japan has done everything right this year, the in ring product, the expansion outside of the US, having made the most profit since 1997, etc. I hope that New Japan grows more and more in the next year.)

Best Weekly TV Show

New Japan on AXS (NJPW) (the show gains more traffic in the US and always tries to be very up to date with everything that happens in New Japan. I also like the inclusion of Kevin Kelly and Cyrus the Virus on commentary.)

Match of the Year
Kenny Omega vs. Kazuchika Omega II at Dominion 2017 (NJPW) (It was really tough to decide of the 3 of them. But all in all, i thought the second match even topped the one from Wrestle Kingdom 11.)

Rookie of the Year
Don't ask me on that. I am way too much of a noob to know about any fresh talent that is running around in this world.

Best Non-Wrestler
Dario Cueto (Lucha Underground) (I was mostly dissapointed with Lucha this season. But whenever Dario comes out, i know it's going to be good. Too bad that he is apparently not in season 4.)

Best TV Announcer
Corey Graves (WWE) (Seriously, Corey is the heel commentator that the WWE desperately needed. He is incredibly knowledgeable without sounding like a smartass and i love the little jabs he makes against Saxton, because i also can't Byron Saxton. )

Worst TV Announcer

David Otunga (WWE) (Again, this guy is such a bore to listen to. I know alot of people don't like Josh Mathews, but atleast Mathews tries. Otunga dosen't even seem to give a shit.)

Best Major Wrestling Show
Wrestle Kingdom 11 (NJPW) (Probably half ot that show had matches, that where main event worthy and it was probably the best Wrestle Kingdom that they had to date.)

Worst Major Wrestling Show
Triplemania XXV (Not only was this the show with infamous incident, that got a drunk Jeff Jarrett fired by Anthem, it was also a show with alot of other problems. Shit under and midcard, rosemarys armbar injury and a botchfest in the co main event. Only thing i liked was the demasking of the legend wagner jr. Still, can't recommend this show.)

Best Wrestling Maneuver
Kenny Omegas One-Winged Angel (NJPW) (*insert sephiroth joke here)

Most Disgusting Promotional Tactic
Putting Ultimate Warrior in the Susan G. Koman commercial (WWE) (Ever since Warrior died, WWE have exploited his death several times. They totally mishandle the idea of the warrior award and now also promote him with the cancer organization, who only give like 15% to cancer research. Disgusting beyond belief)

Worst TV Show
WWE Smackdown Live (WWE) (Amazing how much a year can change. Last year, it was one of the best shows in my opinion. But they did so much shit with it this year. Jinder Mahals boring and uninteresting 6 month reign as champion, mishandling a top star like Shinsuke Nakamura and Bobby Roode and the nonsensical booking that can be seen there week after week. Such a dissapointment.

Worst Match of the Year
Dos Caras, El Rayo de Jalisco Jr. and Villano IV vs. Canek, Cien Caras, Mascara Ano 2000 at CMLL Super Viernes (This is by far, one of the worst matches i have ever seen in my life. A bunch of 60 year olds, trying to wrestle lucha style. No disrespect to these guys, considering these are all legends and deserve the respect. But don't go in the ring, knowing nothing good comes out of it. It reminded me of the time where Hogan and Flair wrestled in TNA, but worse.)

Worst Feud of the Year
 

Finn Balor vs. Sister Abigail (Saying this was embarassing would be an understatement. This feud was Bray Wyatts ultimate burial and showed that Vince dosen't give a shit about Finn, even going so far with doing that pumpkin king shtick with him. Go back to New Japan Devitt.)

Worst Promotion of the Year
 

Impact Wrestling (To the scandal with El Patreon, to the millions of name changes, to Jeff Jaretts alcoholism, to the courtroom drama with the broken hardy gimmick, Impact continues to cement it's status, as the laughing stock of the wrestling world.)

Best Booker

Gedo (NJPW) (Gedo continues to show the mind of a true booker. Being a wrestler for so long himself, he knows what the crowd wants to see and he is a very significant part of New Japans growth.)

Best Gimmick

Tetsuya Naitos Tranguillo Gimmick (NJPW) (I know, Japan didn't win a gimmick award since Jushin Liger in 1990, but everyone is saying it "TURANQIRRO ASSENAYO")

Worst Gimmick
 

Sister Abigail (WWE) (This could've been Bray Wyatt saving Grace, as we waited 4 years who Sister Abigail actually is...and it's just Bray Wyatt dressed as a women. This gimmick was embarassing and made me give up on him completly.)

 

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Most Disgusting Promotional Tactic
Putting Ultimate Warrior in the Susan G. Koman commercial (WWE) (Ever since Warrior died, WWE have exploited his death several times. They totally mishandle the idea of the warrior award and now also promote him with the cancer organization, who only give like 15% to cancer research. Disgusting beyond belief)

 

It's "Eddiesploitation" all over again.

 

Case in point: WrestleCrap, of all people, reacted dead-seriously to it.

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Ishii could also win most underrated considering he's a believable guy who could compete for the IWGP Heavyweight title, and probably will IF Naito does take the belt.

As for Rookie of the Year.

It's either Adam Bravo or Katsuya Kitamura for me.

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4 hours ago, Mesme Rize said:

Ladies and Gentleman, it's that time of the year again where the Wrestling observer decide their best and worst of the year in Wrestling. As we know, the year end for the observer on november 30 and december 2016 will still be considered here.

Without further ado, i start this list:

Lou Thesz/Ric Flair Award (Wrestler of the Year)

Tetsuya Naito from (NJPW) (Guy has been on fire the whole year and is in my opinion the total package in wrestling today. Great in ring, really good charisma, a gimmick that makes the people cheer, which as a heel is very hard in japan. I am sure he will become the new ace of New Japan, coming WK 12.)
Most Outstanding Wrestler

Kazuchika Okada from (NJPW) (no argument here. His three match series against Kenny Omega show you why he is the top in ring performer in wrestling and with Naito being his challenger at WK 12, it will be interesting to see if they can blow us away again.)
Best Box Office Draw
Brock Lesnar (WWE) (Yeah, his suplex city shtick is getting rather annoying these days, but he still puts alot of buts in the seats for Vince. Everytime he wrestles, people are interested and i also have to give him credit for his good match against AJ Styles at the survivor Series.)

Feud of the Year
 

Kenny Omega vs. Kazuchika Okada (NJPW) (Is this really an argument? WK 11, Dominion and G1 Climax, all matches where 5 star worthy and rank right up with the Ric Flair and Ricky Steamboat match series.)

Tag Team of the Year
 

The Usos (WWE) (You might be surprised, but i loved the Usos this year. Their heel turn and new gimmick was really what they needed and their matches have also become fun to watch again. I was really a fan of the Cell match of them against the new day.

Most Improved
 

Braun Strowman (WWE) (For someone who came in 2 years ago with no previous wrestling knowledge whatsoever and who i criticized alot, he became one of my favorites on the WWE roster this year. A dominant and rampaging Monster like Kane used to be. He really gained some knowledge in the ring.)

Best on Interviews

The Miz (WWE) (say what you want about the miz, but his mic skills are second to none, especially in a time of scripted promos in the WWE. He knows what it means to be a great heel and to get the crowd seething.)

Most Charismatic
 

Kenny Omega (NJPW) (Just a flatout fun guy inside and outside the ring. He is one of the big reasons why people outside of japan begun to watch New Japan as he brings out great promos in japanese and english. But he better not challenge me in tekken, because i would destroy him. )

Bryan Danielson Award (Best Technical Wrestler)

Zack Sabre Jr. (NJPW/PWG/Progress) (I know, it's getting boring. But can you say anything against Zack? He is the new Kurt Angle in my opinion.)

Bruiser Brody Memorial Award (Best Brawler)
 

Tomohiro Ishii (NJPW) (Ishii dosen't get much recognition as he should get because he is the best brawler since Mick Foley in my honest opinion and i think he will keep this award as long as he is wrestling.)

Best Flying Wrestler
 

Will Ospreay (NJPW/ROH/Progress) (Mr. Flippyshit as some critics like to call him is such a great highflyer, to the point where i ask myself how long his body will take all these crazy moves. I think if he goes on, he will be in a wheelchair in 10 years. Still, you can't deny Ospreays amazing talent.)

Most Overrated
 

Alberto el Patreon (Impact Wrestling) (It was close between him and Jinder Mahal, but i give the award to Alberto, because Anthem is of the opinion to put him right back in the title picture after Bound for Glory, after all the scandals and police reports against him this year. If i was a promoter, he wouldn't work for me anymore. Jinder is atleast a nice guy in private.)

Most Underrated
 

Cesaro (WWE) (Another year, another most underrated award for Cesaro. A guy of his talent should fight for the world title. But instead, he is pitted together with Sheamus in the tag team devision for a whole year now.)

Promotion of the Year
 

New Japan Pro Wrestling (New Japan has done everything right this year, the in ring product, the expansion outside of the US, having made the most profit since 1997, etc. I hope that New Japan grows more and more in the next year.)

Best Weekly TV Show

New Japan on AXS (NJPW) (the show gains more traffic in the US and always tries to be very up to date with everything that happens in New Japan. I also like the inclusion of Kevin Kelly and Cyrus the Virus on commentary.)

Match of the Year
Kenny Omega vs. Kazuchika Omega II at Dominion 2017 (NJPW) (It was really tough to decide of the 3 of them. But all in all, i thought the second match even topped the one from Wrestle Kingdom 11.)

Rookie of the Year
Don't ask me on that. I am way too much of a noob to know about any fresh talent that is running around in this world.

Best Non-Wrestler
Dario Cueto (Lucha Underground) (I was mostly dissapointed with Lucha this season. But whenever Dario comes out, i know it's going to be good. Too bad that he is apparently not in season 4.)

Best TV Announcer
Corey Graves (WWE) (Seriously, Corey is the heel commentator that the WWE desperately needed. He is incredibly knowledgeable without sounding like a smartass and i love the little jabs he makes against Saxton, because i also can't Byron Saxton. )

Worst TV Announcer

David Otunga (WWE) (Again, this guy is such a bore to listen to. I know alot of people don't like Josh Mathews, but atleast Mathews tries. Otunga dosen't even seem to give a shit.)

Best Major Wrestling Show
Wrestle Kingdom 11 (NJPW) (Probably half ot that show had matches, that where main event worthy and it was probably the best Wrestle Kingdom that they had to date.)

Worst Major Wrestling Show
Triplemania XXV (Not only was this the show with infamous incident, that got a drunk Jeff Jarrett fired by Anthem, it was also a show with alot of other problems. Shit under and midcard, rosemarys armbar injury and a botchfest in the co main event. Only thing i liked was the demasking of the legend wagner jr. Still, can't recommend this show.)

Best Wrestling Maneuver
Kenny Omegas One-Winged Angel (NJPW) (*insert sephiroth joke here)

Most Disgusting Promotional Tactic
Putting Ultimate Warrior in the Susan G. Koman commercial (WWE) (Ever since Warrior died, WWE have exploited his death several times. They totally mishandle the idea of the warrior award and now also promote him with the cancer organization, who only give like 15% to cancer research. Disgusting beyond belief)

Worst TV Show
WWE Smackdown Live (WWE) (Amazing how much a year can change. Last year, it was one of the best shows in my opinion. But they did so much shit with it this year. Jinder Mahals boring and uninteresting 6 month reign as champion, mishandling a top star like Shinsuke Nakamura and Bobby Roode and the nonsensical booking that can be seen there week after week. Such a dissapointment.

Worst Match of the Year
Dos Caras, El Rayo de Jalisco Jr. and Villano IV vs. Canek, Cien Caras, Mascara Ano 2000 at CMLL Super Viernes (This is by far, one of the worst matches i have ever seen in my life. A bunch of 60 year olds, trying to wrestle lucha style. No disrespect to these guys, considering these are all legends and deserve the respect. But don't go in the ring, knowing nothing good comes out of it. It reminded me of the time where Hogan and Flair wrestled in TNA, but worse.)

Worst Feud of the Year
 

Finn Balor vs. Sister Abigail (Saying this was embarassing would be an understatement. This feud was Bray Wyatts ultimate burial and showed that Vince dosen't give a shit about Finn, even going so far with doing that pumpkin king shtick with him. Go back to New Japan Devitt.)

Worst Promotion of the Year
 

Impact Wrestling (To the scandal with El Patreon, to the millions of name changes, to Jeff Jaretts alcoholism, to the courtroom drama with the broken hardy gimmick, Impact continues to cement it's status, as the laughing stock of the wrestling world.)

Best Booker

Gedo (NJPW) (Gedo continues to show the mind of a true booker. Being a wrestler for so long himself, he knows what the crowd wants to see and he is a very significant part of New Japans growth.)

Best Gimmick

Tetsuya Naitos Tranguillo Gimmick (NJPW) (I know, Japan didn't win a gimmick award since Jushin Liger in 1990, but everyone is saying it "TURANQIRRO ASSENAYO")

Worst Gimmick
 

Sister Abigail (WWE) (This could've been Bray Wyatt saving Grace, as we waited 4 years who Sister Abigail actually is...and it's just Bray Wyatt dressed as a women. This gimmick was embarassing and made me give up on him completly.)

 

good choices overall. But I wouldn't be here if I didn't beg to differ on more than a few. 

 

Lou Thesz/Ric Flair Award (Wrestler of the Year)

AJ Styles. He's more or less single handedly kept Smackdown relevant. MOTY candidates w/ Cena, Balor, Lesnar and even Mahal of all people. A consistent performer that is pretty much the sole reason to watch the blue brand (other than the Uso's and the fashion files).
 

Most Outstanding Wrestler

Kenny Omega. His trilogy with Okada weren't his only good matches. He's brought the best out of his opponents time after time during the G1 and is adding credibility with his trailblazing run as the first IWGP U.S champion. He's even made main events out of working w/ mid carders in Baretta, Yoshi-Hashi and Juice Robinson. Now that takes talent. 

Best Box Office Draw
Kazuchika Okada. Dude has been pretty much carrying NJPW on his back since last year. Every hall and every arena he's in is a sell out, and the fans haven't grown tired of him. MNore over, his fame is now spreading across the west, boosting sales in any market he's in. Making it rain all sorts of currency for the Bushi-road execs. 

Feud of the Year
 

"Kenny Omega vs. Kazuchika Okada (NJPW) (Is this really an argument? WK 11, Dominion and G1 Climax, all matches where 5 star worthy and rank right up with the Ric Flair and Ricky Steamboat match series.)"

Have to agree.

Tag Team of the Year
 

The Young Bucks. Again. But you do have to have quite the sway if you can headline ROH's biggest ppv and have your own web show w/ 6 figures worth of subscribers and help spread the infamy of the BC. All while having fantastic matches.

Most Improved
 

Braun Strowman (WWE) (For someone who came in 2 years ago with no previous wrestling knowledge whatsoever and who i criticized alot, he became one of my favorites on the WWE roster this year. A dominant and rampaging Monster like Kane used to be. He really gained some knowledge in the ring.)

Agreed.

Best on Interviews

The Miz (WWE) (say what you want about the miz, but his mic skills are second to none, especially in a time of scripted promos in the WWE. He knows what it means to be a great heel and to get the crowd seething.)

Agreed. 

Most Charismatic
Actually give this to Tetsuya Naito. It isn't just his match work or hsi goth punk aesthetic merchandise. There's a man behind the merch, someone who is making LIJ a dynamic faction, instead of just another band of heels. Even across language barriers, the way Naito speaks and presents himself shines through. 

Bryan Danielson Award (Best Technical Wrestler)

 I'd almost agree, but I think there's someone who deserves more recognition, and that's Marty Scurll. A guy who made a tremendous splash in ROH, helping elevate the TV title to near main event status and managing to blend classic catch style wrestling w/ devious chicanery.  All hail the villain.
 

Bruiser Brody Memorial Award (Best Brawler)

"Tomohiro Ishii (NJPW) (Ishii dosen't get much recognition as he should get because he is the best brawler since Mick Foley in my honest opinion and i think he will keep this award as long as he is wrestling.)"

Agreed. Though it does feel like he's been demoted. Outside of the U.S. title tournament he hasn't done much since leaving the NEVER title picture. 

Best Flying Wrestler
 

"Will Ospreay (NJPW/ROH/Progress) (Mr. Flippyshit as some critics like to call him is such a great highflyer, to the point where i ask myself how long his body will take all these crazy moves. I think if he goes on, he will be in a wheelchair in 10 years. Still, you can't deny Ospreays amazing talent.)"

Agreed again.

Most Overrated
Can't comment on impact since I no longer get the channel. 

Barring that, I give this award to Bray Wyatt. His stock has fallen, his charisma and character are meaningless and he doesn't have the ring skill to compensate for all that. And to think he was WWE champ. this year. 

Most Underrated
 

"Cesaro (WWE) (Another year, another most underrated award for Cesaro. A guy of his talent should fight for the world title. But instead, he is pitted together with Sheamus in the tag team devision for a whole year now.)"

Agreed.

Promotion of the Year
 

"New Japan Pro Wrestling (New Japan has done everything right this year, the in ring product, the expansion outside of the US, having made the most profit since 1997, etc. I hope that New Japan grows more and more in the next year.)"

Ditto

 

Best Weekly TV Show

Don't get AXS and I already have the network. with that, I give it to ROH. Solid matches all around and the ability to still surprise, as well as just being the right amount of time at an hour long. Leaves the viewers wanting more. 

Match of the Year
Right wrestlers, wrong match. I'm giving it to their first encounter, as I felt the 2nd dragged on at times and was, in a way, not as layered and faceted as the first. The first match had me at the edge of my seat, and even though Omega didn't win, I was still more than happy with the match. That's how good it was. 

 

Rookie of the Year
Velveteen Dream. This guys has been sky rocketing over this past year and has the potential to go places. Athletic, good move set and a quirky enough character to make him stand out, as well as the charisma to help properly build tension to a match. 
 

Best Non-Wrestler
Dario Cueto (Lucha Underground) (I was mostly dissapointed with Lucha this season. But whenever Dario comes out, i know it's going to be good. Too bad that he is apparently not in season 4.)

Same.

Best TV Announcer
"Corey Graves (WWE) (Seriously, Corey is the heel commentator that the WWE desperately needed. He is incredibly knowledgeable without sounding like a smartass and i love the little jabs he makes against Saxton, because i also can't Byron Saxton. )"

Same. Though Steve Corino would've certainly won if he stayed in the business. 

Worst TV Announcer

"David Otunga (WWE) (Again, this guy is such a bore to listen to. I know alot of people don't like Josh Mathews, but atleast Mathews tries. Otunga dosen't even seem to give a shit.)"

Same.

Best Major Wrestling Show
"Wrestle Kingdom 11 (NJPW) (Probably half ot that show had matches, that where main event worthy and it was probably the best Wrestle Kingdom that they had to date.)"

Definitely.

Worst Major Wrestling Show
You're probably right, but I can't comment. 

For this, I'd say Fastlane. A lot of bizzare bookign choices, no real stand out matches barring the crusierweight title match and the main event being a complete rip off. And yeah, it stings a bit more since I payed to be there live. 

Best Wrestling Maneuver
For me, this one goes to Zack Sabre's Manji Gatame. That looks legit painful and any move that can tap Tanahashi and Ishii needs to be taken seriously. 

Most Disgusting Promotional Tactic
"Putting Ultimate Warrior in the Susan G. Koman commercial (WWE) (Ever since Warrior died, WWE have exploited his death several times. They totally mishandle the idea of the warrior award and now also promote him with the cancer organization, who only give like 15% to cancer research. Disgusting beyond belief)"

Sounds about right. I hope this Warrior thing is just a phase. 

Worst TV Show
Ooh, tough call. I agree on everything you've said on SD, but I'm still gonna have to pick Raw. Even if it's improved in some area's, it' still fundamentally flawed. It's too long, they've given up on the 3rd hour, they're still wasting the crusierweights and the rotating cycle of endless matches rags down everything. Plus the authority is back on the air, so expect the quality to take a nose dive. 

Worst Match of the Year
Again, you're probably right, but I didn't watch, so no comment. 

Back to Fastelane. Goldberg Vs. Owens. 22 seconds a match does not make. 

Worst Feud of the Year
 

"Finn Balor vs. Sister Abigail (Saying this was embarassing would be an understatement. This feud was Bray Wyatts ultimate burial and showed that Vince dosen't give a shit about Finn, even going so far with doing that pumpkin king shtick with him. Go back to New Japan Devitt.)"

Sounds about right. A feud so bad, it ended when one guy got sick and has never been mentioned again. But on the bright side, it did in a way give us Balor vs. Styles, so it can't be all bad?

Worst Promotion of the Year
 

"Impact Wrestling (To the scandal with El Patreon, to the millions of name changes, to Jeff Jaretts alcoholism, to the courtroom drama with the broken hardy gimmick, Impact continues to cement it's status, as the laughing stock of the wrestling world.)"

I'd like to say WWE, as their TV product is a mediocre mess. But they still do have the occasional good match and they do have NXT around. So agreed. 

Best Booker

"Gedo (NJPW) (Gedo continues to show the mind of a true booker. Being a wrestler for so long himself, he knows what the crowd wants to see and he is a very significant part of New Japans growth.)"

Japanese Paul Heyman  

Best Gimmick

Naito might be big in Japan, and have fair popularity abroad, but it takes quite the man to make plague masks and 'Whoop Whoop!' into a crowd chant and make being a bad guy still cool. The villain gets double the glory this year. 

Worst Gimmick
I'm not so sure Sister Abigail counts, since it's just Bray Wyatt overall. 

So for me, this goes to Jinder Mahal. Evil foreigner is cliche at this point. Only Pakistan see India as the bad guys. The dude is a Canadian playing an Indian. And it insulted the very fan base WWE were trying to cater towards (which failed spectacularly I might add.)

[Mesme Rize 15,692]

@Denim&Venom eventhough i wouldn't consider wyatt as the most overrated, i still understand you and it really hurts. I was one of the last few who still defending wyatt, because i still remember his first year and how amazing he was and i always hoped that he might get back on track. But the Sister Abigail storyline was the last straw.

Also, WWE certainly has their problems, but they can keep themselves (mostly) under control in public. Impact can't do that. I hear something negative about them almost every week and it makes my head shake.

And i totally forgot about velveteen dream. I didn't care for Patrick Clarks tough enough appearances, because i think they never bring real talent from that place. But velveteen blew me away when he came out back in may at NXT and he totally earned my respect after his match with Aleister Black.

[Castle Bleck 19,507]

2 hours ago, Mesme Rize said:

Impact can't do that. I hear something negative about them almost every week and it makes my head shake.

 

I heard about how they underpaid their Knockouts Champion, of all people, so badly that she had to get a second job.

[Sparklefan1234 184,260]

12 minutes ago, A.V. said:

I heard about how they underpaid their Knockouts Champion, of all people, so badly that she had to get a second job.

 

Was she the one who is married to Josh Mathews?

Edited December 1, 2017 by Sparklefan1234

[Tommyspud 55]

I'm going to be short on my picks.

 

Pro Wrestler of the Year - Kazuchika Okada.

I cannot tell you how this man has carried NJPW this year, having still one of the best 12-month periods in pro wrestling history. No one else can even come close to that.

Most Outstanding Wrestler - Kenny Omega

Making me suddenly believe in guys like YOSHI-HASHI is a big thing. Kenny Omega is great enough to make anyone look amazing.

 

Best Box Office Draw - Bullet Club(specifically THE ELITE)

Is it a bad thing to say that the Bullet Club has helped both ROH and NJPW and sold a buttload of T-Shirts, and might be bigger than many WWE acts at this point?

 

Feud of the Year - Okada vs Omega (Honorable Mentions: Christopher Daniels vs Proving to be a worthy champ, Naito vs NJPW)

Obvious.

 

Tag Team of the Year - The Usos(Honorable Mentions: Young Bucks, KES, War Machine)

The heel turn actually gave them a lot more to be interested about. When they were faces, they were generic.

 

Most Improved - BRAUN(Honorable Mentions: Trent, Jay White, David Finlay)

Braun is looking more and more like a more dangerous monster Luke Harper then a Erick Rowan.

 

Best on Interviews - The Miz(Honorable Mentions: Hiromu Takahashi, Tetsuya Naito, Kenny Omega)

Best Heel in the business when it comes to getting booed for doing nothing but opening his mouth.

 

Most Charismatic - Tetsuya Naito(Honorable Mentions: Shinsuke Nakamura, SANADA)

Leader of LIJ oozes charisma now that he's found his true calling.

 

Best Technical - ZSJ(Honorable Mentions: KUSHIDA, Scurll, Nagata)

 

Best Brawler - Ishii(Honorable Mentions: Suzuki, Makabe)

 

Best High Flyer - Will Ospreay(Honorable Mentions: Dragon Lee, Hiromu Takahashi)

 

Most Overrated - Jinder Mahal

Should never have been allowed to touch the WWE Title. Was not worthy of that spot at all.

 

Most Underrated - Ishii(Honorable Mentions: SANADA, EVIL, Cesaro)

No one can be thrown into the main event for the IWGP Heavyweight title like Ishii can, and 99.9% of everyone would accept it. Ishii's just that much of the lynchpin for NJPW's plans, there's a reason why guys like Naito or Omega tend to go through him to get to Okada. He's not the major star of the company, but he MAKES MAJOR STARS.

 

Promotion of the Year - NJPW

Simple. NJPW had one of their best years in History, most other big companies floundered.

 

Best Weekly TV Show - NJPW on AXS

Best wrestling with great commentary, if only it was on a bigger station.

 

Match of the Year - Any Okada/Omega match. For me, I'm picking the G1 match.

The G1 match was that moment.of clarity for Omega being able to finally get a win over Okada. The perfect closer to the trilogy, in my honest opinion.

 

Rookie of the Year - Katsuya Kitamura(Honorable mentions - Adam Bravo, Velveteen Dream(If we're doing those who debuted earlier than 2016), Roppongi 3K(same), Hiromu Takahashi(same))

Velveteen Dream debuted actually a few years ago, but Katsuya Kitamura actually started wrestling back in March, and he's already wrestling in the World Tag League, and doing a good job with it.

 

Best Non-Wrestler - Tiger Hattori.

Tiger Hattori is the man.

 

Best TV Announcer - Corey Graves

Worst TV Announcer - David Otunga

Graves makes me love heel commentators again.

Otunga is a hypocritical dumb guy who goes back on something he said five minutes ago in commentary and HE'S SUPPOSED TO BE THE FACE COMMENTATOR.

 

Best Wrestling Show - WK11

Worst Wrestling Show - Triplemania

One was amazing because it had the best on paper card of anything this year and DELIVERED. The other was unfollowable garbage that had drunk wrestlers, someone get injured on purpose, and english commentary that had no idea about the product.

 

Best Wrestling Maneuver - One Winged Angel

Most protected Finisher in NJPW.

 

Most Disgusting Promotional Tactic - Warrior being used in Susan G Koman

Horrible.

 

Worst TV Show - IMPACT.

 

Worst Match of the Year - House of Horrors Match(Honorable Mention - Punjabi Prison, Goldberg vs Owens)

 

Worst Promotion - iMPACT

 

Best Booker - GEDO of NJPW

 

Best Gimmick - Tetsuya Natio(Honorable Mention: Minoru Suzuki being the baddest man on the planet, Breezango, Sami Callihan kissing everyone)

 

Worst Gimmick - Jason Jordan still being Kurt Angle's illegitimate child. (Honorable Mentions: Jinder Mahal, Shane McMahon being an authority figure, David Otunga being a face commentator, WHO REALLY IS BYRON SAXTON)

[Castle Bleck 19,507]

6 minutes ago, Sparklefan1234 said:

Was she the one who is married to Josh Mathews?

 

No, it was Taylor Wilde.

 

Though Madison Rayne (the one married to Matthews) was equally lowballed.

 

You can read all about it here: https://www.cagesideseats.com/2010/9/29/1719902/an-examination-of-tnas-appalling-treatment-of-talent

[Tommyspud 55]

I continue to think about making a fantasy booking thread or something in the non-pony area.

[Castle Bleck 19,507]

I agree with everyone who nominates Strowman for the "Most Improved" category, and then some.

[Tommyspud 55]

2 hours ago, A.V. said:

I agree with everyone who nominates Strowman for the "Most Improved" category, and then some.

Well, he is most improved, but Jay White, David Finlay, Trent, and even like... Roppongi 3K all deserve honorable mentions.

Also I forgot to add EVIL to my best gimmick Honorable Mention lists.

He's like a Bray Wyatt that the company he works for ACTUALLY CARES about.

[Denim&Venöm 21,037]

Here's some more fun trivia. 

Brock Lesnar's F5 has actually had two other names.

What were they? 

[Tommyspud 55]

4 hours ago, Denim&Venom said:

Here's some more fun trivia. 

Brock Lesnar's F5 has actually had two other names.

What were they? 

I know of The Verdict from NJPW. Are you also counting Rosemary's Red Wedding?

[Denim&Venöm 21,037]

20 minutes ago, Tommyspud said:

I know of The Verdict from NJPW. Are you also counting Rosemary's Red Wedding?

Huh. I thought that wouldve been the obscure one. Yes, The Verdict was one of the names (an arguably better name at that). But no, not the Red Wedding. This was before it was called the F5.

[Tommyspud 55]

Just now, Denim&Venom said:

Huh. I thought that wouldve been the obscure one. Yes, The Verdict was one of the names (an arguably better name at that). But no, not the Red Wedding. This was before it was called the F5.

Well, I mean it is a Fireman's Carry Facebuster.

[Denim&Venöm 21,037]

2 minutes ago, Tommyspud said:

Well, I mean it is a Fireman's Carry Facebuster.

I meant an official name from WWE. 

[Mesme Rize 15,692]

According to the Wrestling Observer WWE has seen a spike in its value since Oct 25, 2017. Over that period the share price has increased by $7.55 resulting in the company value increasing by $582 million.

Vince McMahon's personal fortune has also seen a big increase to $1.47 billion, meaning he is richer now than almost any time in history.

 

It's truly astounding. the in-ring product is very meh currently and the houses at some shows are half empty. And still WWE manages to make a big profit, even making Vince richer then he was ever in his lifetime. It's crazy.

 

EDIT: I did look on their stock page searching on google, and it's clear it's gone way up recently.

Even more fascinating is that they are on the path to reaching their best value... EVER.

 

It can't be because of their in ring product. Vince must have made a deal with the devil or something.