gaming Console Vs. PC

[ConcorDisparate 385]

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Thanks, it seems that graphic cards improved a lot during the last few years . 

[Wonderbolt 68]

I prefer consoles as they are more standardised, plus you can only get Nintendo stuff on consoles.

  Strategy games and first person shooters are a lot better on PC though.

[Blaze Bronson 343]

 

You would be amazed at the arguments I have seen. I've legitimately seen people say that console gamers are "destroying society by supporting greedy corrupt companies". Etc.

They are. I don't want to start a huge debate about this, but PC suffers from the dreaded "bad console port" problem.

It all boils down to game makers aiming for the lowest common denominator in order to sell more games.

 

 

The rig I built did cost me just under $1,000. But I built it as a console-destroyer, one that is capable of 4k at more than 60+ FPS (sometimes pushing 100+ in-game). It can play any game I throw at it, and it should be able to for at least the next 3 years before I consider upgrading.

 

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Thanks, it seems that graphic cards improved a lot during the last few years  . 

 

That's not entirely true, or rather, not enough information is given.
Such a system can run all games, but it can't run all games 4k 60fps.

 

Some of the most demanding games like Witcher 3 and Metro 2033 you should expect 1080p and around 50fps with possible dips, if you play at ultra settings.

Simply putting the settings to high will make the game very stable at 60+ fps though.

 

Don't even bother with 1440p or 4k in newer games with this system, unless you can play them at 30fps.

For many simpler or older games, it's definitely possible to play in 4k 144fps, because it's a very strong system, but don't expect it to have a easy time on some of the most demanding ones.

 

For comparison, this should be a about 3x the power of the playstation 4, which have a hard time even reaching 1080p 30fps in demanding games.

 

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Back to topic, yes I am a PCMR if you couldn't tell   and I love playing on PC. Just to put all console fanboys to rest, I do play console from time to time also. It's great for split screen.

I do however prefer PC, mainly because of:

• The ability to play with any controller I want, be it a mouse, xbox controller, wii mote or whatever I desire.
• The "exclusive" games, like CSGO, TF2, Overwatch, Dota 2, The Stanley Parable and To The Moon.
• The ability to chat type in multiplayer games.
• Better performance if I pay for it, which I do. Once You experience 144fps, it's hard to go back, especially to 30fps. I'm spoiled if you will.

Edited October 6, 2015 by Blaze Bronson

[Scrubbed user 3,416]

 

 

plus you can only get Nintendo stuff on consoles.

 

I've come across a Wii emulator. You can even plug in an adapter to use a Wii-mote.  

[Envy 6,183]

I've come across a Wii emulator. You can even plug in an adapter to use a Wii-mote.  

 

Oh please. Enough with the emulators. Illegal stuff should not be brought up. Nintendo only licenses their games for Nintendo consoles.

[long gone 8,929]

Oh please. Enough with the emulators. Illegal stuff should not be brought up. Nintendo only licenses their games for Nintendo consoles.

Emulators themselves are not illegal (especially if they don't ship with the BIOS files for the console they're emulating, as those are typically still copyrighted), but depending on some things ROMs are either illegal or legal.

[Swift Marquis 327]

Pff ``Greatness awaits``, The ultimate slideshow experience xD    

[Scrubbed user 3,416]

That's not entirely true, or rather, not enough information is given.

Such a system can run all games, but it can't run all games 4k 60fps.

 

Some of the most demanding games like Witcher 3 and Metro 2033 you should expect 1080p and around 50fps with possible dips, if you play at ultra settings.

Simply putting the settings to high will make the game very stable at 60+ fps though.

 

Don't even bother with 1440p or 4k in newer games with this system, unless you can play them at 30fps.

For many simpler or older games, it's definitely possible to play in 4k 144fps, because it's a very strong system, but don't expect it to have a easy time on some of the most demanding ones.

1. True, my rig is not powerful enough to consistently at 4k at 60 FPS. I can get "either or" though.
2. Like pretty much anyone, I do try to run as high graphical settings I can here I can still have a smooth running game. Ultra settings can be achieved, but not for too long. High is usually my sweet spot.
3. I said I was wiling to buy a 1440p monitor, but a 1080p one is just fine. Again, I try to go as high as I can, but high settings are still very capable on my rig.

[DixonTheAdversary 1,632]

Truthfully, I don't care... The only thing I care about is what game I'm playing and how well I can play it. (which isn't very good XD)

[King 5,625]

I grew up as a console gamer but slowly drifted towards PC this past year or so. I admit, I like to get games looking and running at their best. That being said, Id consider myself a gamer in general. I don't believe in the platform war bullshit, gamers are gamers, period.

[Rawzy 1,302]

There's so much more freedom on PC, you can do anything on the internet with a few clicks of you're mouse. You don't need to pay for membership so that you can play multiplayer or talk to our friends over Skype xD.

 

There are 2 benefits from using a console over a PC though, everyone has the same console, so there aren't going to be anyone complaining that they are getting low frames and that's why they lost. Also, there are certain games that you can play on consoles that you can't on PC.

 

Overall I still think PC is better but that's just my opinion

[Guest]

 

 

They are. I don't want to start a huge debate about this, but PC suffers from the dreaded "bad console port" problem. It all boils down to game makers aiming for the lowest common denominator in order to sell more games.

 

Sadly true. I love PC gaming, but I hate the lazy porting.

 

 

Emulators themselves are not illegal (especially if they don't ship with the BIOS files for the console they're emulating, as those are typically still copyrighted), but depending on some things ROMs are either illegal or legal.

For the sake of argument if we are talking which platform is better from a consumer standpoint, let us leave emulation out because emulation is SELDOM used legally. Not to mention consoles can run emulators too, so it's not really a fair thing to include. Emulators allow people to play Nintendo's software on non-nintendo products which is against their policy, thus it is not legal. Not to mention a majority of people do not emulate games they already own.

 

I mostly only emulate what I own, but I would not use that as a point to convince people to switch platforms because it's illegal. Let us use the salesman rules from this point onward. I.e. we can only talk about legal aspects of the platforms, specs and why it's right for you. That means Jailbreaking PS3s, homebrewing Wii/Wii U, and emulating are off the table, for fairness sake.

[Kivil 1,721]

I really like games I watch youtube a lot but I never get ot play console or PC games because I don't have the money to get my own stuff

[Clawdeen 15,182]

I prefer the consoles.

The controller is much easier for me to throw when I get mad and I'd rather not throw my keyboard and mouse.

Edited October 11, 2015 by Veolala

[Scrubbed user 3,416]

Emulators allow people to play Nintendo's software on non-nintendo products which is against their policy, thus it is not legal.

If Nintendo where to find someone using an emulator, they just hax0r their way into their computer, lock the emulation files, and replace (and lock) their wallpaper to this:

 

 

No one fucks with Nintendo's IPs.

Edited October 12, 2015 by Azure Flare

[Envy 6,183]

For the sake of argument if we are talking which platform is better from a consumer standpoint, let us leave emulation out because emulation is SELDOM used legally. Not to mention consoles can run emulators too, so it's not really a fair thing to include. Emulators allow people to play Nintendo's software on non-nintendo products which is against their policy, thus it is not legal. Not to mention a majority of people do not emulate games they already own.

 

I mostly only emulate what I own, but I would not use that as a point to convince people to switch platforms because it's illegal. Let us use the salesman rules from this point onward. I.e. we can only talk about legal aspects of the platforms, specs and why it's right for you. That means Jailbreaking PS3s, homebrewing Wii/Wii U, and emulating are off the table, for fairness sake.

 

Indeed, we've got to be fair here. Just like I unquestionably gave the advantage of modding to PC gaming. Consoles may have modding, too, but it's against their policies and can get your console bricked - at least in the case of Nintendo. So it's really only RELEVANT to give modding to PC gaming, just as it's only relevant to give Nintendo-exclusive games to Nintendo consoles.

 

In the same way that I'm not comfortable playing emulators, I'm also not comfortable modding on consoles.

[Guest]

Indeed, we've got to be fair here. Just like I unquestionably gave the advantage of modding to PC gaming. Consoles may have modding, too, but it's against their policies and can get your console bricked - at least in the case of Nintendo. So it's really only RELEVANT to give modding to PC gaming, just as it's only relevant to give Nintendo-exclusive games to Nintendo consoles.

 

In the same way that I'm not comfortable playing emulators, I'm also not comfortable modding on consoles.

At least for the time being. We do know Fallout 4 will support mods for consoles, so it may only be a matter of time before consoles get mods for more games.

[Scrubbed user 3,416]

At least for the time being. We do know Fallout 4 will support mods for consoles, so it may only be a matter of time before consoles get mods for more games.

 

And then they move 1 step closer to actually becoming PCs and more pointless for those who want the best experience.

 

One argument I keep seeing is plug-and-play for consoles. They don't have that anymore.

 

You bring home an XBone or a PS4, take it out of the box, and plug it in. Upon powering it on, you're greeted with a setup page. Once you get through that, your then on the main menu. You insert a disk. You're then greeted by an install page. Once the 1.5-2+ hour install is complete, then you can play a game.

 

Oh wait, the game is a broken piece of crap, time to download and install day-1 patches.

 

PC's have had this for YEARS. and it's the reason why I don't have my consoles anymore. you can't just put a cartridge or a disk in the console and just simply play a game. The thing consoles are meant to do best is gone. The convenience is the one thing they had over a PC. 

 

But since Sony and Microsoft (Nintendo to a lesser degree, but they're just as guilty) want to cram so many features into their systems and making them into "consoles that do other things", but only after you fork over some more money so you can use them is for me, the final straw for consoles.

 

They've had their glory years, but I think it's time to move on.

[Bright Honor 2,684]

Just game on what you feel comfortable with. I've been mainly a console gamer bu I am planning to get into PC gaming as well.

[Guest]

And then they move 1 step closer to actually becoming PCs and more pointless for those who want the best experience.

 

One argument I keep seeing is plug-and-play for consoles. They don't have that anymore.

 

You bring home an XBone or a PS4, take it out of the box, and plug it in. Upon powering it on, you're greeted with a setup page. Once you get through that, your then on the main menu. You insert a disk. You're then greeted by an install page. Once the 1.5-2+ hour install is complete, then you can play a game.

 

Oh wait, the game is a broken piece of crap, time to download and install day-1 patches.

 

PC's have had this for YEARS. and it's the reason why I don't have my consoles anymore. you can't just put a cartridge or a disk in the console and just simply play a game. The thing consoles are meant to do best is gone. The convenience is the one thing they had over a PC. 

 

But since Sony and Microsoft (Nintendo to a lesser degree, but they're just as guilty) want to cram so many features into their systems and making them into "consoles that do other things", but only after you fork over some more money so you can use them is for me, the final straw for consoles.

 

They've had their glory years, but I think it's time to move on.

While I agree this new trend is annoying, let's not pretend it's not worse on PC. At least with consoles you will never run into "you just finished installing this game but you have a random part that is not compatible with it, sorry." Having to dig through trouble shooting for your specific settings, and install DirectX, Netframe, Visual package 2008 for the 200th time, deal with patches that come out way later than needed and ports that are usually far inferior to a broken console port.

 

Better turn off your anti-virus or put it into game mode. Also make sure you have no conflicting software running. Your dual monitors are causing trouble getting the game into full screen without your PC having an episode.

 

So let's not pretend that having to install games and patches is the worst thing that consoles could do. Game installation is a necessary evil because of how big games are getting. I like how when PC more or less did away with disk usage it's "innovative and makes things easier!" but when consoles do it, then it's "the last straw!" Consoles are not going anywhere any time soon because the demand for them is still there and quite strong. The PS4 is selling so well that in a few years if it keeps up at this rate, it will outsell the PS2.

 

Not to mention the set up process is not as irritating as a PC and you know that. Consoles may do firmware updates but they are relatively quick, whereas Windows wants to update every 25 minutes these days. Windows needs an update, nVidia needs an update to get the best graphics settings, your anti-virus needs an update for better background working while games are running. I can set up a console far faster than I can set up a PC, and I am pretty quick about PC set up.

 

What features are you speaking of that you need to "fork over more money to use" are you speaking of? Xbox Live and PSN? That's $50, so priced with the now both $350 console, that's $400 which even on the cheap would be less than a gaming PC. Netflix? You pay for that on PC too. Hulu? Pay for that on PC. Youtube? It's no extra costs. DVD/Bluray playback? Built in. Headset? It comes with the system. Messaging friends? Free. Voice chat? Included with PSN/Xbox Live. Web browser? Free. Patches? Free. DLC? You pay for them on PC too with the exception of like a small handful of games such as Left 4 Dead 2. Price of games? Buy used. Expand your storage? You pay for that on PC as well.

 

Where is this forking over of more money? Is $50 for online play a year really breaking bank for so many people that they will stupidly build an expensive gaming PC deluding themselves into thinking they are somehow saving money because of Steam sales which for the most part sell current games for about what they would cost used on a console?