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Just now, Sherbert Music-Guard, Scoffer of Shortbread said:

How'd you guess

Just asking, it's always fun playing a wannabe commie and trolling people, but I don't understand the point in someone praising communism, because it's hypocritical to hate the economical system that your country is currently into, also known as capitalism.

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Just now, Cyralicious said:

Just asking, it's always fun playing a wannabe commie and trolling people, but I don't understand the point in someone praising communism, because it's hypocritical to hate the economical system that your country is currently into, also known as capitalism.

It isn't entirely hypocritical, considering it isn't really working that well for us. Half of the money that poor people need ends up being spent on private jet, mansions, and yachts.

Even then, how would it be hypocritical to criticize an economic system just because our country has it?

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2 minutes ago, Cyralicious said:

Just asking, it's always fun playing a wannabe commie and trolling people, but I don't understand the point in someone praising communism, because it's hypocritical to hate the economical system that your country is currently into, also known as capitalism.

I don't understand the point in someone praising capitalism, Everypony but the 1% is poor in capitalism

Just now, Duzzkey said:

It isn't entirely hypocritical, considering it isn't really working that well for us. Half of the money that poor people need ends up being spent on private jet, mansions, and yachts.

Even then, how would it be hypocritical to criticize an economic system just because our country has it?

No, Your cultural identity isn't dependent on ideology

[Guest]

Just now, Duzzkey said:

It isn't entirely hypocritical, considering it isn't really working that well for us. Half of the money that poor people need ends up being spent on private jet, mansions, and yachts.

Even then, how would it be hypocritical to criticize an economic system just because our country has it?

well first of all it's funny that most of the commies now in the modern world have never wittnessed real communism, my country was a communist country once, and trust me, I'd rather live in a capitalist country than countries like my former one or north korea.

And it is hypocritical since you're using capitalist products to trashtalk capitalism, if you want to live like a commie, then go ahead, I love capitalism and I love my economical system, even though the politicians are trash in almost every country but hey, still better than not having food like in the USSR:

Just now, Sherbert Music-Guard, Scoffer of Shortbread said:

I don't understand the point in someone praising capitalism, Everypony but the 1% is poor in capitalism

No, Your cultural identity isn't dependent on ideology

 

1% poor? do you consider yourself poor? Just having access to the internet makes you rich in the modern world, not going to mention that you have a roof over your head and that you have actually something to eat.

In communism it would be most likely 100% of the people who'd be considered poor.

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Just now, Cyralicious said:

well first of all it's funny that most of the commies now in the modern world have never wittnessed real communism, my country was a communist country once, and trust me, I'd rather live in a capitalist country than countries like my former one or north korea.

And it is hypocritical since you're using capitalist products to trashtalk capitalism, if you want to live like a commie, then go ahead, I love capitalism and I love my economical system, even though the politicians are trash in almost every country but hey, still better than not having food like in the USSR:

 

1% poor? do you consider yourself poor? Just having access to the internet makes you rich in the modern world, not going to mention that you have a roof over your head and that you have actually something to eat.

In communism it would be most likely 100% of the people who'd be considered poor.

Go and check your country's unemployment rate and get back to me

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Just now, Sherbert Music-Guard, Scoffer of Shortbread said:

Go and check your country's unemployment rate and get back to me

Go and compare my country's unemployment now and my country's unemployment when it was a communist shithole and get back to me.

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Just now, Cyralicious said:

well first of all it's funny that most of the commies now in the modern world have never wittnessed real communism, my country was a communist country once, and trust me, I'd rather live in a capitalist country than countries like my former one or north korea.

And it is hypocritical since you're using capitalist products to trashtalk capitalism, if you want to live like a commie, then go ahead, I love capitalism and I love my economical system, even though the politicians are trash in almost every country but hey, still better than not having food like in the USSR:

I'm not a commie. You're acting like just because I'm dissing capitalism in any way that I'm a communist. That assumption makes no sense.

That was gibberish  for the most part, but you're also pretty wrong. If nobody had food in the USSR, how'd it survive for 70 years? Is that supposed to console me for the fact that at minimum wage, it's basically impossible to afford living? I understand the USSR was a pretty bad place, but don't use that to say the US has no issues, because it has plenty.

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Just now, Cyralicious said:

Go and compare my country's unemployment now and my country's unemployment when it was a communist shithole and get back to me.

What's your country, There was like 10 or 20 communist nations in all of Europe alone.

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16 minutes ago, Duzzkey said:

I'm not a commie. You're acting like just because I'm dissing capitalism in any way that I'm a communist. That assumption makes no sense.

That was gibberish  for the most part, but you're also pretty wrong. If nobody had food in the USSR, how'd it survive for 70 years? Is that supposed to console me for the fact that at minimum wage, it's basically impossible to afford living? I understand the USSR was a pretty bad place, but don't use that to say the US has no issues, because it has plenty.

By quoting myself My point wasn't that you're a communist, but there are a bounce of communist organizations in the USA.

70 years? People were dying at the age of 20-30, not only because of food but because of their foolish ideology of everyone being "equal" so basically everyone was in the same shit and had to deal with the dictators, died because of their stupid immaginations that the world will be a better place if everyone was listening their communist propaganda.

And of course capitalism isn't perfect, I never said it was and it has it's own flaws, but it still does develope a better economy than communism.

17 minutes ago, Sherbert Music-Guard, Scoffer of Shortbread said:

What's your country, There was like 10 or 20 communist nations in all of Europe alone.

Yeah pretty much eastern europe was under communism, that's why I'm telling you to stop being a commie because you have never wittnessed real communism, my family was under communism and people in my own neighbourhood have died because of it, so please, enjoy capitalism and don't say stuff like that since you don't understand the meaning of communism and what it was capable of doing to the people in my country.

Edited February 12, 2018 by Guest

[Sovereign Leader Rarity 12,000]

I'm very much liberal/democratic. I'm aware that many people in my general political area have gone too far in many people's opinion, to the point of preventing freedom of speech and/or just being silly (look at many of those "feminists" on Buzzfeed), but I personally see a democratic approach as being very modern and containing many values of which it would do the modern world much good to take on board. Conservative beliefs are by no means inherently bad, I believe in many cases that we can learn a thing or two from the past, but I do believe that there is a limit on what is appropriate in the modern world and that there are certain outdated principles that we're better off without.

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23 minutes ago, Cyralicious said:

By quoting myself My point wasn't that you're a communist, but there are a bounce of communist organizations in the USA.

70 years? People were dying at the age of 20-30, not only because of food but because of their foolish ideology of everyone being "equal" so basically everyone was in the same shit and had to deal with the dictators, died because of their stupid immaginations that the world will be a better place if everyone was listening their communist propaganda.

And of course capitalism isn't perfect, I never said it was and it has it's own flaws, but it still does develope a better economy than communism.

You're still assuming I'm a communist after saying you weren't...

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17 minutes ago, Duzzkey said:

You're still assuming I'm a communist after saying you weren't...

I'm not assuming that you're one..

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Just now, Cyralicious said:

I'm not assuming that you're one..

Yes you are, that's literally the entire post's content. Saying communism is bad, because apparently I must be a communist.

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35 minutes ago, Duzzkey said:

Yes you are, that's literally the entire post's content. Saying communism is bad, because apparently I must be a communist.

exactly, I was implying that communism is bad but I didn't say that you're a communist.  

[Ashen Pathfinder 16,152]

I tend to be a left-leaning moderate. My views tend to sway liberal, maybe even a tad socialist at times, but as I live in a fairly conservative environment I try to be as open-minded as I possible can. I tend to find myself struggling to find a balance between my own beliefs as well as the sensitivities of others.

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22 minutes ago, Cyralicious said:

exactly, I was implying that communism is bad but I didn't say that you're a communist.  

Then why involve me in the discussion?

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2 hours ago, Cyralicious said:

 but I don't understand the point in someone praising communism, because it's hypocritical to hate the economical system that your country is currently into, also known as capitalism.

Between capitalism and communism: CAPITALISM FOR THE WIN . It's pretty concerning how today people praise that ideology. Capitalism has notorious flaws, but that doesn't mean communism is better, but all the opposite. I had close encounters with communism, and tales of survivors from other countries only enforce my point. Communism, no thank you 

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54 minutes ago, Steve Piranha said:

Between capitalism and communism: CAPITALISM FOR THE WIN . It's pretty concerning how today people praise that ideology. Capitalism has notorious flaws, but that doesn't mean communism is better, but all the opposite. I had close encounters with communism, and tales of survivors from other countries only enforce my point. Communism, no thank you 

*inserts THANK YOU gif here*

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My heart is saying Communism but my reason is saying Liberal, and my wallet is telling me conservative 

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super conservative...

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I would consider myself a left-libertarian.

In the political compass, I always end up very low and on the left side. The opposite to me would be something like the Alt-Right and crypto-fascists. Liberals and conservatives are both closer to the middle. Heck, they even agree on most topics.

Edited April 16, 2018 by Aktaion

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On 2/5/2018 at 3:20 PM, Denim&Venom said:

They both suck. 

I can't in good conscious truly support one or the other. 

Libertarian is the correct way to be. Don't tell people how to live. Don't tell them how to spend their money. 

You know I'm right.

 

Thought I'd repost to show everypony that there is a better way. 

 

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6 minutes ago, Denim&Venom said:

Thought I'd repost to show everypony that there is a better way. 

It's a lovely graphic I'm sure, but it is very selective in which aspects of the left and the right that it illustrates, and in some cases is downright dubious, the right regulates morality and the left doesn't? Give me a break.  It's only 'a better way' if you happen to like the idea of doing things that way in exactly the same way that the left and the right both appeal to different people for different reasons depending on the individual's morality and sense of priorities.

This is the crux of the matter, there is no political choice that is objectively better than the alternatives, if there was we would all be using it by now.  Some people are happy to pay high taxes in exchange for good public services, others would prefer much lower taxes and the freedom to choose which services they make use of (and pay for) themselves.  As an example, you will never convince someone that is welfare-dependent and is either unable, or unwilling, to improve their situation that a low-tax economy is the way forward.

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both, there must be a balance, but do not confuse the words please ...
for example there are people who confuse being liberal ([person] That is tolerant and respects the opinions and customs of others.) With debauchery (Excessive and abusive freedom in what is said or done.)

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I'm a lefty.  I actually hope to vote for the NDP when the Ontario elections roll around, if I'm able to, that is.  I think I might've registered to vote too late...