spoiler Not a fan of Flurry Heart?

[ThatAnonymousPony 133]

@@ThatAnonymousPony,

 

I lost you at saying it makes sense to have a cute baby in a show that is aimed at little girls?

 

First of all, the babies are the ugliest stage in a ponies growth (which I've already said on my other forum topic) but that's only my opinion so they shouldn't not have a baby because of that. But, there are already 2 babies in the show! I was okay with it when Cadance and Shining Armour said they were having a baby. I just don't like it being an alicorn. Plus, I get that the show was made for little girls, but there are so many older fans that we should at least some what care about our opinions too!

Who's to say she will? Celestia and Luna raise the sun and moon, we don't know what the baby does, if it can do anything yet. Maybe since she was born from an Alicorn like Cadance, an "Artificial" one, she might not be immortal, or all-powerful. We've never seen if there were any past princesses like Cadance or Twilight before, maybe Flurry is the first alicorn born since Equestria was founded, because this is the first time an Alicorn has had a baby since then?

 

 

 

 Babies are kind of helpless and require their parents to survive. So I could agree about this, but she likely won't have a big impact on the show. I don't blame you for disliking her, I just think people are making a bit of a bigger deal out of it than necessary.

I see your point, and although I'm not gonna like her, it won't be so bad if she doesn't play a major important role in the show.

[Sals 56]

 

 

But you do realise the show is created for little girls though, not the brony fandom?

 

But do you realize that the creators and Lauren Faust has realize that the brony fandom exists and even made episode 100 about us? 

[Jest (Inactive) 875]

@@Sals,

 

Yes, but I don't see what having one episode out of a hundred has to do with the fact that it is a show aimed at young girls. Again that isn't meant to be derogatory towards adult show viewers, just the truth.  

[AtomicStone 724]

She's not that bad in my view. Can't personally see much wrong with her and she seems quite cute to me.

[ThatAnonymousPony 133]

@@Sals,

 

Yes, but I don't see what having one episode out of a hundred has to do with the fact that it is a show aimed at young girls. Again that isn't meant to be derogatory towards adult show viewers, just the truth.  

It is a known fact that there are a lot of older viewers and most importantly, the majority of dedicated fans are older. Little girls really don't understand things to the extent that we do. They wouldn't dislike Flurry, because all they're thinking when watching MLP is "Ooh pretty colours! Cute ponies! They're doing magic!!" Although young kids can have some understanding of storyline, they don't see the depth of it like we do. If Cadance and Shining Armour had a non-alicorn baby, it would make lots of the fandom happier, and I doubt the little kids would care, or think it is less eye catching.

[cuteycindyhoney 13,308]

Haha last time I checked, other unicorns didn't have "power surges" powerful enough to create the kind of destruction that this little alicorn has already began on her first day of existence

Where could you possibly have checked that?

[ThatAnonymousPony 133]

Where could you possibly have checked that?

You know, how no unicorns ever nearly destroyed an entire empire

[Concerned Bystander 2,903]

You know, how no unicorns ever nearly destroyed an entire empire

 

As much as I dislike the newest addition to the aristocratic ruling class, in her defence it wasn't actually her magic that almost destroyed the Empire, she merely facilitated said destruction by shattering the heart, a significant, but much less impressive feat.

[ThatAnonymousPony 133]

As much as I dislike the newest addition to the aristocratic ruling class, in her defence it wasn't actually her magic that almost destroyed the Empire, she merely facilitated said destruction by shattering the heart, a significant, but much less impressive feat.

True.. But well, I know that it was fixed in the end and all, but none of that would have happened if it wasn't for her. Something so problematic shouldn't be allowed any where near something as important as the crystal heart. This baby only causes problems.

[Ziggy + Angel + Rain 11,302]

But, there are already 2 babies in the show! I was okay with it when Cadance and Shining Armour said they were having a baby. I just don't like it being an alicorn. Plus, I get that the show was made for little girls, but there are so many older fans that we should at least some what care about our opinions too!

Omigosh!  That makes for a total of, um...  Three babies!  Two of whom we don't even see anymore.  You should be glad you've seen as few babies as you have, given that there are bound to be more births in Equestria than the few that have taken center stage.

 

And why, exactly?  Why should they care about the opinions of hyper-analytical, always-dissatisfied adult fans who constantly dissect every little element of the show and seemingly believe it should cater to them specifically?  Are there gonna be "issues" with the show?  Of course.  Is it going to be able to please both the original, deliberately-targeted demographic and the one that unexpectedly fell into Hasbro's laps?  No, it isn't.  Accept that you don't necessarily have any more say than the five year old who's going ape shit over her brand new Princess Flurry Heart figure.

[ThatAnonymousPony 133]

Omigosh!  That makes for a total of, um...  Three babies!  Two of whom we don't even see anymore.  You should be glad you've seen as few babies as you have, given that there are bound to be more births in Equestria than the few that have taken center stage.

 

And why, exactly?  Why should they care about the opinions of hyper-analytical, always-dissatisfied adult fans who constantly dissect every little element of the show and seemingly believe it should cater to them specifically?  Are there gonna be "issues" with the show?  Of course.  Is it going to be able to please both the original, deliberately-targeted demographic and the one that unexpectedly fell into Hasbro's laps?  No, it isn't.  Accept that you don't necessarily have any more say than the five year old who's going ape shit over her brand new Princess Flurry Heart figure.

 

First of all, you said "two of whom we don't even see anymore." Well, how about we see more of them than? And to say I should be glad we've seen a few babies, well personally I'm not. And it's not that I hate the idea of them having a baby, I just hate the idea of an all-powerful alicorn baby. And honestly, although there are a lot of kids watching, I was a kid once like everyone else and I know exactly what it was like. Kids never notice deeper plots that expand beyond one episode. They mostly pick up on scenes that are "cute" or "funny," as well as eye catching colour schemes. I doubt that they would mind if the baby looked exactly the same besides being an alicorn (the same pony with just wings or just a horn). The thing is, kids don't realize what's good or bad about Flurry being an alicorn. I remember when I was little, I never understood plot points or the actual depth of a storyline like I do now. In fact, no kids I ever knew did either. All I'm saying is that I don't mind the idea of a third baby, I just would prefer if she was just a regular pony, not a problematic, powerful alicorn.

[Ziggy + Angel + Rain 11,302]

First of all, you said "two of whom we don't even see anymore." Well, how about we see more of them than? And to say I should be glad we've seen a few babies, well personally I'm not. And it's not that I hate the idea of them having a baby, I just hate the idea of an all-powerful alicorn baby. And honestly, although there are a lot of kids watching, I was a kid once like everyone else and I know exactly what it was like. Kids never notice deeper plots that expand beyond one episode. They mostly pick up on scenes that are "cute" or "funny," as well as eye catching colour schemes. I doubt that they would mind if the baby looked exactly the same besides being an alicorn (the same pony with just wings or just a horn). The thing is, kids don't realize what's good or bad about Flurry being an alicorn. I remember when I was little, I never understood plot points or the actual depth of a storyline like I do now. In fact, no kids I ever knew did either. All I'm saying is that I don't mind the idea of a third baby, I just would prefer if she was just a regular pony, not a problematic, powerful alicorn.

You just described one of the things that's best about children: They aren't anywhere near as cynical, judgemental, or critical as adults.  They just like what they like - and genuinely so.  This is the last thing you should be criticizing the younger demographic for: Children go all-in emotionally, without reservation.

 

"Kids don't realize what's good or bad about Flurry being an alicorn."  I think kids have some things more figured out than Bronies do.

[ThatAnonymousPony 133]

You just described one of the things that's best about children: They aren't anywhere near as cynical, judgemental, or critical as adults.  They just like what they like - and genuinely so.  This is the last thing you should be criticizing the younger demographic for: Children go all-in emotionally, without reservation.

 

"Kids don't realize what's good or bad about Flurry being an alicorn."  I think kids have some things more figured out than Bronies do.

I think you're missing the point. I'm not even just talking about kids lacking the understand of why Flurry is a bad character. I'm even talking about how kids don't notice good plot points as well as adults. The average five year old child wouldn't fully understand the significance of the CMC getting their cutie marks, or Twilight becoming an alicorn. Whether it's a good plot point or a bad one, I just meant that in general, children's brains aren't developed enough to understand storylines to the extent that an adult would. A child would most likely not mind if Flurry Heart was exactly the same but without a horn or without wings, because they'd still see the eye-catching colour scheme, and other traits that got their attention. Are you suggesting that it's wrong for an older viewer to look at the show in more detail, and have honest opinions about certain characters based on specific examples? I don't see what's wrong about looking at something and detail, and not being as ignorant as a child.

[Justin_Case001 4,899]

So, my mom is an avid watcher of the show.  We enjoy it together, but unlike me, she doesn't analyze lore or anything like that.  If there's continuity errors or lore damaging things, she doesn't notice or care.  Her response to Turbulence Cardioid (that name is gonna stick, you wait and see) was this:  "I really didn't like that baby.  At all.  She was so weird and creepy looking.  And why did she have to be so freaking powerful?  That seemed overdone and dumb."

 

There you have it.  An unbiased response from a casual fan.

 

Haha last time I checked, other unicorns didn't have "power surges" powerful enough to create the kind of destruction that this little alicorn has already began on her first day of existence

[Ziggy + Angel + Rain 11,302]

I think you're missing the point. I'm not even just talking about kids lacking the understand of why Flurry is a bad character. I'm even talking about how kids don't notice good plot points as well as adults. The average five year old child wouldn't fully understand the significance of the CMC getting their cutie marks, or Twilight becoming an alicorn. Whether it's a good plot point or a bad one, I just meant that in general, children's brains aren't developed enough to understand storylines to the extent that an adult would. A child would most likely not mind if Flurry Heart was exactly the same but without a horn or without wings, because they'd still see the eye-catching colour scheme, and other traits that got their attention. Are you suggesting that it's wrong for an older viewer to look at the show in more detail, and have honest opinions about certain characters based on specific examples? I don't see what's wrong about looking at something and detail, and not being as ignorant as a child.

I think Bronies constantly miss the point.  I mean, of the entire show.  It has, primarily, two purposes: 1. To entertain and 2. to sell toys.  In that sense, children are way ahead of many adult fans.

 

Whether a plot point is good or bad isn't something that's always universally agreed upon; it's founded on opinion.  You'll find that other adults will openly disagree with you about this or that plot point.

 

Right or wrong doesn't come into it: I'm suggesting that it gets really, really, really old at times.  Particularly when someone's position, which essentially boils down to, "I hate babies," has been needlessly convoluted.

 

Look: How often you think you're gonna even see Flurry Heart?  How often do we even see the Crystal Empire, Cadance, and Shining Armor Hot Dogs?  Not very.  Is there any indication whatsoever that Flurry's gonna be taking over the entire season?  Not that I've seen.  And her supergodbaby powers have effectively been curtailed; this was more or less resolved during a mere two episodes (and not even two, really).

[PacificGreen 1,163]

I don't really dislike her anymore, but I don't really "like" her either. At least they made the premiere interesting with all the characters involved, Flurry included. 

[Swifty 249]

I dunno. Flurry Heart is okay i guess. She made Pinkie go in panic mode (teleport right at her face), that's a brownie point for her.

 

Though, this episode made me feel indifferent about alicorns a bit more.

Instead of stating it plain and simple that L and C are born alicorns or not, they come up with a vague talk.

Equestria...not the world, right? And what about the time before Equestria? Do the writers actually care? Are they kidding around? It gets tiring. Just another Whatever moment.

Edited March 29, 2016 by Swifty

[Riganthor 484]

I don't hate her but I don't like her either I rather don't want to see her again or at least 1 episode no more then that otherwise she would become unbearable.

[ThatAnonymousPony 133]

I think Bronies constantly miss the point.  I mean, of the entire show.  It has, primarily, two purposes: 1. To entertain and 2. to sell toys.  In that sense, children are way ahead of many adult fans.

 

Whether a plot point is good or bad isn't something that's always universally agreed upon; it's founded on opinion.  You'll find that other adults will openly disagree with you about this or that plot point.

 

Right or wrong doesn't come into it: I'm suggesting that it gets really, really, really old at times.  Particularly when someone's position, which essentially boils down to, "I hate babies," has been needlessly convoluted.

 

Look: How often you think you're gonna even see Flurry Heart?  How often do we even see the Crystal Empire, Cadance, and Shining Armor Hot Dogs?  Not very.  Is there any indication whatsoever that Flurry's gonna be taking over the entire season?  Not that I've seen.  And her supergodbaby powers have effectively been curtailed; this was more or less resolved during a mere two episodes (and not even two, really).

I know that Flurry will most likely not be on the show often. That doesn't mean I can't have an opinion about her. If her main purpose is to entertain children and sell toys, they didn't need to make her an alicorn. With wings being the dominant feature in her overall appearance, they could have easily designed her without a horn. They bright colour scheme, big wings, and the fact that she's a baby would make her just as eye-catching to kids. All I'm saying is I don't like her problematic nature or the fact that she's an alicorn for the reasons I've already stated. It's good that she won't be on the show often, but that's not gonna change the way I feel about her. Seeing something I hate less often will make me less mad about it, but it's not gonna suddenly make me hate it less. I'll still have the same feeling towards it, just not feel angry as often (only episodes she's on). To introduce a new character that completely ruins the structure of the show (in my option) doesn't seem any less bad just because we see it less. We all still know it's there, no matter how often they show little catastrophic McFlurry.

[MarshmallowPony 5]

I agree with this 100% I hate Flurry heart

[ThatAnonymousPony 133]

I agree with this 100% I hate Flurry heart

I know right?! If only more of the fandom would understand

[deathpioupiou 103]

Well I simply don't care, I just enjoy episode without making analysis, I don't have opinion on her and don't need one

[0pinkie0 4]

But why would you still hate her if they don't show her on many episodes?

[ThatAnonymousPony 133]

But why would you still hate her if they don't show her on many episodes?

So you're saying it would make sense to hate her, other than the fact that she won't have much air time? Does that make a difference?

[0pinkie0 4]

So you're saying it would make sense to hate her, other than the fact that she won't have much air time? Does that make a difference?

Yeah that kinda IS what I'm saying.