What spell would you bet Twilight to be incapable of casting?

[KillerKingBakudan 702]

These ponies aren't exactly gods that can make anything happen, so there can't be a spell for everything. With that in mind, you decide to go to Twilight's castle and bet against the Mane Six. You wager everything you own for something equal in value on Twilight not being able to research and cast a certain spell.

You have to make it reasonable though. Obviously, Twilight can't just erase everything in existence in the blink of an eye, or reconstruct reality itself in any way. It has to be a smaller task that, while no other living organism could do it, fits well within suspension of disbelief as it's defined by the show (something on the level of feats already seen like time travel, or turning birds into oranges). 

That said, I bet Twilight can't make her own shit smell like roses.

Edited August 18, 2016 by Lord-Pomegranate

[El Duderino 879]

I bet she can't directly kill someone with a spell... as in an actual killing spell... a spell that kills instantly on contact... like avada kedavra. That defies the laws of children's cartoon shows.

[Square 69]

Summoning a member of the forums.

[cider float 2,538]

She can't cast a spell to resolve an issue in an episode that it becomes only 10 seconds long because that would be too short of an episode. 

[KillerKingBakudan 702]

……………………. You think fourth-wall feats make for reasonable bets? Because I sure as hell am not gonna bet somebody over the parameters of a kids' show.

[Kyoshi Frost Wolf 41,803]

Any spell that would make her stronger than Starlight, because Starlight is a magic god, because reasons.

[Honeysuckle 135]

she did admit that she wasn't strong enough to stop Starlight at the end of season 5, she had to get her to stop herself

[Ruby Splash 100]

@,

 

I know a spell, its called

 

'The Ruby Splash Is Awesome' spell. She can't cast that spell 

 

she also doesn't know what's in my lunchbox, so she can't cast a 

 

'What's In Ruby's Lunchbox' spell either

Edited August 14, 2016 by Ruby Splash

[cmarston1 5,959]

Due to the nature of the show, any kind of spell that could be used to seriously injure or even kill someone.

[KillerKingBakudan 702]

Due to the nature of the show, any kind of spell that could be used to seriously injure or even kill someone.

Except those spells actually do exist in the show, and even if no one got killed, she still used them. That's not a good bet.

The show may be for kids, but this fourth-wall breaking doesn't cut it. They don't have this self-imposed set of rules that dictate how they act in front of a live human audience. That's like me saying you can't seriously injure or kill someone because kids are always watching you. 

[Frith is Magick 1,471]

Judging by lore given in Twilight's Kingdom, I would bet her that she could not magically rid herself of all magic without transferring it into another living being or inanimate (magical or otherwise) object/repository.

[Red Cedar 1,408]

She lives in constant fear of someone finding out that, despite her years of study, advanced knowledge, and tremendous amount of power, she's unable to use her magic to light a candle without splattering wax against a wall.

[El Duderino 879]

 

 

The show may be for kids, but this fourth-wall breaking doesn't cut it. They don't have this self-imposed set of rules that dictate how they act in front of a live human audience. That's like me saying you can't seriously injure or kill someone because kids are always watching you. 

Those sort of cartoon rules are valid because if the creators of the show ever actually come up with a set of things ponies can't do with magic, thing like what is acceptable to have in a cartoon would influence their decisions. Because of this, I have a headcannon that in the MLP universe, it could be impossible cast a spell that directly kills someone. Not like a magic blast that could result in a death (because lets be honest, those magic blasts we see in the show would have the force to kill someone). That is not the spell itself that kills, but the force of impact or something else that actually kills them. I'm talking about a killing spell. Like in Harry Potter with "avada kadevra", which stops your heart and instantly kills you. 

[Justin_Case001 4,907]

Like in Harry Potter with "avada kadevra", which stops your heart and instantly kills you. 

Twilight wouldn't need that anyway.  Celestia taught her the Five-Point-Hoof-Exploding-Heart Technique.

 

Well, I'd say the smart money would be against Twilight being able to fly with telekinesis like Starlight.  There's no reason she couldn't, and given her adept level of telekinesis, she should be able to leave Rainbow Dash in the dust, but she'll never try because plot.

[duidamasterXD 9,627]

Between the parasprites and the vampire fruit bats, Twilight seems pretty terrible at altering animals' diets on the fly. Seems like that might be worth a shot.

[KillerKingBakudan 702]

Those sort of cartoon rules are valid because if the creators of the show ever actually come up with a set of things ponies can't do with magic, thing like what is acceptable to have in a cartoon would influence their decisions. Because of this, I have a headcannon that in the MLP universe, it could be impossible cast a spell that directly kills someone. Not like a magic blast that could result in a death (because lets be honest, those magic blasts we see in the show would have the force to kill someone). That is not the spell itself that kills, but the force of impact or something else that actually kills them. I'm talking about a killing spell. Like in Harry Potter with "avada kadevra", which stops your heart and instantly kills you. 

This isn't about the creators of the show, it's about you. The subject concerns your interactions with the ponies if they were actually real. You're not part of a cartoon, and your actions are not bound by a TV-Y rating. And for the purposes of the thread, neither should theirs be. Just because the writers choose to restrict certain behaviors in the show doesn't mean the ponies couldn't engage in them. 

[El Duderino 879]

This isn't about the creators of the show, it's about you. The subject concerns your interactions with the ponies if they were actually real. You're not part of a cartoon, and your actions are not bound by a TV-Y rating. And for the purposes of the thread, neither should theirs be. Just because the writers choose to restrict certain behaviors in the show doesn't mean the ponies couldn't engage in them. 

If they were real, than Twilight couldn't cast any spell because magic doesn't exist. You have to recognize that the MLP universe doesn't work the same way as ours and we can't compare it to our universe, otherwise it kind of ruins the fun of a fictional universe. The only way to see how it does work is to look to what the show and canon material tell us.

 

I feel like you are just stuck on the fact that I mentioned it's a TV show. You are one of those fans who hates when people use the "it's a kids show" excuse to answer a question, am I right? I'm not trying doing that. Sorry if it came off that way. I'm trying to establish if there are things within the MLP universe that would be impossible with magic. The thing is that because there really aren't many canon explanations of that, I have to think about what the creators would possibly make canon, and like it or not, the fact that it's a TV show has an effect on that.

 

True, just because they won't show something on the show doesn't mean it can't be canon. Like I said before, when we see unicorns shoot those magic beams, those beams would probably have the power to seriously injure someone or even kill them. They won't show that or make it canon, but that's probably what would happen. But because of the nature of the brand, they have to make sure everything they make canon is appropriate. Therefore, what is canon vs what is non-canon is affected by the fact that it is meant to be a kids brand. Because of all that, I think that it is reasonable to think that if the creators (the people who decide what is canon) were asked if there is a spell for killing in MLP, they would possibly say you can't kill with magic, or at least a spell like that doesn't exist.

[Tarnation 142]

Probably that cutie mark removing spell, as I think that is starlight's special talent

[FluffyGoat13 375]

I bet twilight can't get a spell to make me able to smell stuff, because my nose doesn't work (I'm also not very honourable so I probably wouldn't honour the bet anyway). I also don't own much anyway, and I doubt they'd find a use for it so I'm pretty sure they wouldn't even accept the bet.

[Castle Bleck 19,383]

According to The Return Of Harmony, anything with the word "failsafe" in it.

[RealityPublishing 323]

The ability to maintain a galaxy mane like Celestia and Luna's.

[Miles 2,512]

"Wingardium Leviosa"

Swish and Flick!   

~ Miles

[KillerKingBakudan 702]

I also don't own much anyway, and I doubt they'd find a use for it so I'm pretty sure they wouldn't even accept the bet.

If they could interact with humans, the loot could just be donated to a museum built to survey human culture. At least that's what should be happening since Twilight got to visit a human world. 

[FluffyGoat13 375]

If they could interact with humans, the loot could just be donated to a museum built to survey human culture. At least that's what should be happening since Twilight got to visit a human world. 

 

Hmm...maybe, but I'm not sure people would be willing to visit a museum containing only the contents of one 3 meter by 3 meter room, most of which is school work.

[KatonRyu 1,033]

She probably can't resurrect the dead. I also think her nature would prevent her from casting any kind of magic that requires true hatred to work. Just the bit of dark magic she did in the Season Three opener took a lot from her.