Should Apple Bloom get an Amending Fences episode?

[ManaMinori 4,145]

Tis’ the season of continuity *cue Silver Quill’s entrance* after all/ It would be nice to see somepony remind Apple Bloom that she used to be friends with Twist, way back in season 1, but dropped her like a hot potato after Twist got her cutie mark, which was a dick move on AB’s part. Do you guys think this could be a good CMC episode, where the Crusaders don’t have to help a strange new pony, but one of their own rekindle a lost friendship, with a cutie mark problem from the past? (also, perfect opportunity to put Twist with her coltfriend (See “Hearts and Hooves Day” intro), Truffle Shuffle, maybe making him protective of Twist, and cautious of her getting back in close ties with Apple Bloom, after what she did)

[Dark Qiviut 22,445]

It could work…if the writers know how to execute it correctly. Amending Fences worked beautifully, because Larson was able to string great ideas and put them into use where they make sense. It also helps when Moon Dancer wasn't introduced till AF. So far, Twist doesn't exactly show the consequences of what happened after she was dropped from the show. We'd need to really see how much it affected her.

Secondly, DHX and Twist's voice actress will have to communicate with each other to make it work, too. After she moved out, she was basically dropped from the show, and I don't expect DHX to reintroduce Twist to the fold till then (if ever). Not too often does FIM replace a voice actor during its running.

Of the writers in the curent lineup, I think either Joshua Hamilton or the team of Burke and Wyatt is the best writer for the job if given the opportunity.

Edited May 15, 2017 by Dark Qiviut

[ManaMinori 4,145]

12 minutes ago, Dark Qiviut said:

It could work…if the writers know how to execute it correctly. Amending Fences worked beautifully, because Larson was able to string great ideas and put them into use where they make sense. It also helps when Moon Dancer wasn't introduced till AF. So far, Twist doesn't exactly show the consequences of what happened after she was dropped from the show. We'd need to really see how much it affected her.

Secondly, DHX and Twist's voice actress will have to communicate with each other to make it work, too. After she moved out, she was basically dropped from the show, and I don't expect DHX to reintroduce Twist to the fold till then (if ever). Not too often does FIM replace a voice actor during its running.

Of the writers in the curent lineup, I think either Joshua Hamilton or the team of Burke and Wyatt is the best writer for the job if given the opportunity.

they could always change her VA, if absolutely necessary, like they did with BonBon many times over.

[Dark Qiviut 22,445]

1 minute ago, Nightmare Muffin said:

they could always change her VA, if absolutely necessary, like they did with BonBon many times over.

I think I see your point, but there's a really big difference. BonBon is purely a background character, while Twist was a secondary character during the first one-and-a-half seasons.

[Lambdadelta 1,462]

Good idea, but i want the best writers write this or nothing at all.

[ManaMinori 4,145]

7 minutes ago, Lambdadelta said:

Good idea, but i want the best writers write this or nothing at all.

I agree one-hundred percent. The same writers for Amending Fences, maybe?

[Thrond 3,263]

A sign that Apple Bloom still hangs out with Twist would be pleasant, but if not that I'd prefer if the two of them just moved on to their own friend groups without bad blood, like most people do. Of course, I'm no fan of "Amending Fences," so that might be part of why I'm not so hot on this, but at least an equivalent with Apple Bloom and Twist would be a lot more coherent. 

2 minutes ago, Nightmare Muffin said:

I agree one-hundred percent. The same writers for Amending Fences, maybe?

That guy is long gone from the show. 

[Ganondox 899]

Maybe, but in addition to what Dark Qiviut said, we need to ensure this isn't just a repeat of Amending Fences theme wise. 

Edited May 15, 2017 by Ganondox

[Megas 27,765]

Of all things to make an Applebloom episode, this one actually sounds like a great idea

[Lambdadelta 1,462]

28 minutes ago, Nightmare Muffin said:

I agree one-hundred percent. The same writers for Amending Fences, maybe?

Larson busy with his book, i doubt he will comeback...I suggest Cindy Morrow, she is good for feelsy episode, and her humors are Natasha Levinger level and not "hit and miss" humors like Nick Confalone.

 

[Dark Qiviut 22,445]

1 hour ago, Lambdadelta said:

Larson busy with his book, i doubt he will comeback...I suggest Cindy Morrow, she is good for feelsy episode, and her humors are Natasha Levinger level and not "hit and miss" humors like Nick Confalone.

 

I mentioned it at the top, but do you think that Hamilton could also do it?

[Lambdadelta 1,462]

59 minutes ago, Dark Qiviut said:

I mentioned it at the top, but do you think that Hamilton could also do it?

I havent seen any of his works beside his mlp episode, i read in Imdb that he wrote for Avatar and Korra, that's sound cool, he wrote for 2 best animated series of Nickedoleon, but... i didnt watch any of them... Anyway, he just wrote 1 episode, it's hard to tell. Ed Valentine impressed me with his amazing Flight to Finish and then he wrote Pinkie chasing balloon... *sign*. I need more episode of Hamilton to know more about his writting style, his strength and ESPECIALLY his weakness. Any veteran of any well-known show is welcomed

Bonus: I am scared that he will make a filly screaming for over 1 minute...

Edited May 15, 2017 by Lambdadelta

[FlareGun45 2,221]

I expect a comic outta this!

[Batbrony 16,055]

I think if there was more demand for such an episode the writers might consider it (and considering Zipporwhill of all characters just came back in a supporting role, I suppose  can't definitively rule out that Twist could at some point return).  But at the same time, a part of me thinks it probably won't happen; Twist has still had plenty of friends as far as we can tell since her initial appearance, she generally appears to hang out with the other colts and fillies on a regular basis, so I don't think she has the same kind of friendship problems that Moondancer had.

[cmarston1 5,959]

I mean if Apple Bloom is going to continue getting the most episodes out of the CMC, you might as well give her interesting ones, like what you suggested.

[Meeps 298]

I hadn't really thought of Twist much, but I also liked her character and think an episode involving her and Applebloom could be great. At the same time, I mentally assumed that perhaps they simply drifted away from one another; Twist has her friends, and Applebloom has Scootaloo and Sweetie. Not necessarily any bad blood or a falling out resulting from Twist getting her cutie mark first or anything.=

[ManaMinori 4,145]

1 hour ago, Meeps said:

I hadn't really thought of Twist much, but I also liked her character and think an episode involving her and Applebloom could be great. At the same time, I mentally assumed that perhaps they simply drifted away from one another; Twist has her friends, and Applebloom has Scootaloo and Sweetie. Not necessarily any bad blood or a falling out resulting from Twist getting her cutie mark first or anything.=

I still feel like even if Twist does has her own friends, and might nt havs been effected by it quite like Moondancer, she and AB need that closure, since AB left her high and dry so abrubtly. No rhyme or reason. No doubt that didn't effect Twist in some way, no matter how small. 

[Jeric 46,860]

8 hours ago, Dark Qiviut said:

I mentioned it at the top, but do you think that Hamilton could also do it?

In Hamilton We Trust! 

 

I think his ability to write younger characters in meaningful and fun ways make this idea (which I love) a perfect fit for him. He knows how to write characters who aren't adults but are dealing with complex issues. He also wrote for Voltron ... which has a character named Pidge who should stand as an example of how to take a character defined by a trope and then taking them seriously, and by extension the audience. 

Good idea and they have a writer who can nail it. 

[KatonRyu 1,033]

I'm actually not a big fan of the idea, since I'm already getting the feeling the show's beginning to retread old ground with episodes like Forever Filly and Rock Solid Friendship. If they went ahead with an episode like this I really wonder how they would keep it from being stale.

[ManaMinori 4,145]

7 minutes ago, KatonRyu said:

I'm actually not a big fan of the idea, since I'm already getting the feeling the show's beginning to retread old ground with episodes like Forever Filly and Rock Solid Friendship. If they went ahead with an episode like this I really wonder how they would keep it from being stale.

even so, it needs to happen. especially after what the CMC said in Bloom and Gloom, about how they'd never abandon a friend just for getting their cutie mark- yet that's exactly what they did earlier- moreso Apple Bloom, than the other two, since they probably weren't friends with or didn't know Twist back in season 1. AB and Twist need closure, and someone needs to make AB aware of the hypocrisy that she dealt to Twist.

[Meeps 298]

45 minutes ago, KatonRyu said:

I'm actually not a big fan of the idea, since I'm already getting the feeling the show's beginning to retread old ground with episodes like Forever Filly and Rock Solid Friendship. If they went ahead with an episode like this I really wonder how they would keep it from being stale.

I actually just rewatched the episode "Maude Pie" recently, and was actually surprised by how Pinkie Pie basically tried to force friendship between Maude and other ponies pretty much exactly how she did in "Rock Solid Friendship." I guess enough time had elapsed that the former episode kind of became fuzzy for me, but yes, it was pretty similar (although I did enjoy watching "Rock Solid." Always love watching some Maude)! 

Edited May 15, 2017 by Meeps
A word.

[Jeric 46,860]

2 hours ago, Nightmare Muffin said:

even so, it needs to happen. especially after what the CMC said in Bloom and Gloom, about how they'd never abandon a friend just for getting their cutie mark- yet that's exactly what they did earlier- moreso Apple Bloom, than the other two, since they probably weren't friends with or didn't know Twist back in season 1. AB and Twist need closure, and someone needs to make AB aware of the hypocrisy that she dealt to Twist.

The only thing I have an issue with is the notion that there is hypocrisy evident. People mistake what that means in action all the time like you just did.

If you evolve and your views, values, or beliefs change -- contradictory actions that occurred in your past are not hypocritical. Nor does this marginalize either the past actions impact, or your current view.

Examples are an ex-addict warning others about the dangers of addiction. Not hypocritical. An addict telling someone to stay away from drugs whilst using them -- that's hypocritical. See the difference?

Now I am starting to suspect that you believe that AB and Twist don't maintain any form of connection since Call of the Cutie. We know that isn't true in the show. They hung out in Family Appreciation Day, so it's impact was not as significant as what we saw in Amending Fences.

It is still a good story concept, but like AF didn't make Twilight out to be the bad guy, Applebloom shouldn't be made out to be in the wrong either. Twist may be able to lament a lack of closeness, but not out and out abandonment. The facts and evidence don't support that.