Something I really want to see in the distant future...

[Ganondox 899]

So I just watched Dawn Somewhere's last analysis video, and while I disagree with him on many things, he does have a point, and that's go my thinking. What it got me thinking is that it's not too late to get him what he wants, in fact, it's never too late. It just requires abandoning the mentality than Friendship is Magic is the end and be all of My Little Pony lore. Now, I do absolutely love the show as it is now, but let's face the facts, the canon is an absolute mess, and it can only get messier from here on out. What my idea is is that sometime in the future we do a reboot of the show (which given the success of FiM and the way it completely changed the My Little Pony brand it seems to be fairly likely, at least if this run ever dies, though even it doesn't it's still possible to have it as a spinoff airing concurrently), but this change of the aims of it so it can actually work in that manner. So, what I'm thinking is that it will start off with the same initial premise, but after a remake of the first episode (though maybe stretching it out into a whole arc rather than just being two episodes, maybe four or five episodes, the same length as a feature film) it will then diverge from the FiM, maybe reusing the same ideas and characters as well as pulling from supplementary material, but drastically changing the execution and generally take it in a new direction called actually have a direction. So, here are the essential differences it needs: 

1. To be a mini-series, shooting for around three seasons like Avatar would probably be good. The main thing is that there is an end in mind, and everything is done with that end in mind. 

2. Aim it at a more mature audience as the primary demographic. Still keep it kid friendly (meaning PG-13 at most, and if it does somehow get that far then only for the darkest point in the series, the majority if not all of it still being G-rated), but have more mature themes and complex plots. 

3.  Have a single overarcing plot with minimum slice of life episodes, this fits more towards Faust's original vision which had more adventures, and if we're going to be serious about this we simply won't have time for too much slice of life. I have no idea what that plot would be, but we need a lasting villain even if we have several monsters of the week and arc villains. I kinda like the alicornification plot, but this time it would need to be done right, saving it for the final arc and probably after Celestia is killed or something (she also needs to be not-useless before that point, and we need to actually see the main cast fail) so it has a real purpose. 

4. More focus on the mythos. No ponifying human world stuff for the sake of horse puns, just build the world up as it's own coherent universe as much as possible, with more of magitech/harmony with nature setting, actual threatening forces, and consistent gods instead of just demoting them every few seasons when a new power needs to be contrived. 

5. It needs to be given a subtitle and animation style to match the new intent. My Little Pony is an inherently corny name, but if product placement demands it then so be it. What can be fixed is Friendship is Magic, which while it works great for a slice of life series, wouldn't fit a more dramatic series at all. The animation is naturally expected to improve as technology thus, so I think that would happen anyway. 

If such a series were created, it could be pretty really, really good, but in the very least I expect it to please fans who fell away after the original series became bloated. Does any one else think this is a good idea? If you don't, that's not going to stop me from pitching this 20 years from now, but if we can get it rolling before I'm a middle aged man the better.

EDIT: In response to feedback, I’m changing “minimalize Slice of Life” to “only as much Slice of Life as it can have without detracting from the main story”, and when I say more mature than the main series, I mean like how the movie is than the series. I just bumped it up to PG-13 for the sake of leg room because the movie is already at PG, not because I actually want to see a crazy dark version of pony. Finally, please watch the original video, as their entire context of this idea is as a response to issues raised in that video. 

Edited October 29, 2017 by Ganondox

[n1029 229]

We're not going to see eye to eye on this if you think the show would be better off with a full focus on adventure narratives. The slice of life stuff keeps it grounded and helps us to get to know the characters more. There are plenty of TV series out there that just have characters moving on from one big monster to the next and My Little Pony doesn't need to be one of them. 

[ShootingStar159 2,157]

FIrst, the link you embedded doesn’t work for me, it takes me to a different vid.

Second, I don’t really watch the show for the epic two parters. I know there is a large number of fans who watch the show primarily because of those episodes, but I’m not one of them. I haven’t made a list of my top ten favorite episodes in a long while, but right now the only two-parter to be in the top five is Shadow Play (although the last ten minutes of Cutie Remark remains my favorite part of the show).

I feel like a more “adult” adventure series kinda misses the point of the show, which is the great character moments building up to the big finale.

[Ivan The Adorable 304]

Personally, think it would be a cool idea to have a short spin-off with these characters, flesh them out a little more with more continuous arcs in a way that the regular episodes haven't been able to.

I don't think the series necessarily would have to go for a more "mature" demographic than it already does. It already runs up against fairly weighty themes, just generally lacks the tension of solving any given character issue over a direct series of events over multiple episodes. Shows like Star vs the Forces of Evil and Wander Over Yonder have shown decent models of keeping that more light-hearted slice-of-life aspect and doing adventurous continuity simultaneously.

MLP does have to move onto a new phase eventually. And I'm not saying this from a place of narrative criticism, but an apt metaphor I've heard is viewership of a show or product is like filling a leaky bucket. The kids who used to watch it grow up and do other things. Your options are to start afresh for new generations or change things up to try to win back members of the older generation. I think they're going to want to bank on the former, but it could be cool to attempt a project like you describe for some more conclusive character development and stories to transition the audience from one point to another.

Are the older fans of the series even prominent enough these days to merit the attention, would be the question.

[Once In A Blue Moon 895]

That video (although that link is to 'Open up your eyes mlp the movie(clip)') certainly had some good points, especially regarding the effect of the Mane 6's life goals, although after thinking about it I concluded that I don't share his disappointment in the show as I don't take the same things from it (and I am much more willing to suspend my disbelief for colourful friendship ponies, it seems.)

Regardless, on to your main thought. What immediately springs to mind was the 'Legend of Spyro' series of games, which was aimed at an older demographic than the previous Spyro games and had a darker tone to it (as well as having a strong focus on combat.) I thoroughly enjoyed the series despite them not being especially good games exactly because I liked the characters and the world.

In a similar way, what I like about MLP is the characters and the themes (I'm much less bothered by the world.) Though people joke about reforming every villain, the willingness to reach out to enemies is part of the ethos of the show and I view it as an important one. What worries me is that a darker tone might lose that, which would be a shame.

On the other hand, Fallout Equestria takes points 1 to 4 and meets all of them, and I rate that as one of the best novels I've ever read* (up there with Dune in how engaged I was with it) but I don't think that it lost too much of the ethos of the show.

Spoiler

If you haven't read it, do. This isn't a massive spoiler, but it is a spoiler.

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Executing Autumn Leaf without much in the way of regret was perhaps one failing of it, but a lot of the time when Little Pip kills somebody they later come to regret it (or at least to think very hard about their motivation and justification for doing so.)

 So yes, I think that it could work. Indeed it does work in a lot of fan fictions - I've been reading 'The Freeport Venture' recently, and it hits points 2 and 4 very well. I'm just not sure whether something would be lost in the process.

 

 

*well, listened to. I came across a complete audiobook reading of it first, and as I had a lot of driving to do at the time I listened to it instead - all 60 hours of it. Given that I'm coming to the end of my third listen-through of it, it's fair to say that I rather enjoy it. 

Edited October 27, 2017 by Once In A Blue Moon

[Ganondox 899]

4 hours ago, n1029 said:

We're not going to see eye to eye on this if you think the show would be better off with a full focus on adventure narratives. The slice of life stuff keeps it grounded and helps us to get to know the characters more. There are plenty of TV series out there that just have characters moving on from one big monster to the next and My Little Pony doesn't need to be one of them. 

That’s not what I’m saying, at all. This is an idea for a different series with a larger focus on canon, not the one we have now. I agree the slice of life makes this series great, but that doesn’t mean that another pony series should focus on Slice of Life. 

4 hours ago, ShootingStar159 said:

FIrst, the link you embedded doesn’t work for me, it takes me to a different vid.

Second, I don’t really watch the show for the epic two parters. I know there is a large number of fans who watch the show primarily because of those episodes, but I’m not one of them. I haven’t made a list of my top ten favorite episodes in a long while, but right now the only two-parter to be in the top five is Shadow Play (although the last ten minutes of Cutie Remark remains my favorite part of the show).

I feel like a more “adult” adventure series kinda misses the point of the show, which is the great character moments building up to the big finale.

Fixed the link. Watch it so you understand the point I’m making, the adventure stuff is just a minor point that people are overfocusing on. Anyway, the adventure episodes aren’t the highlight of the show, so they aren’t as good as they could be, which is precisely the point. 

4 hours ago, Once In A Blue Moon said:

That video (although that link is to 'Open up your eyes mlp the movie(clip)') certainly had some good points, especially regarding the effect of the Mane 6's life goals, although after thinking about it I concluded that I don't share his disappointment in the show as I don't take the same things from it (and I am much more willing to suspend my disbelief for colourful friendship ponies, it seems.)

Regardless, on to your main thought. What immediately springs to mind was the 'Legend of Spyro' series of games, which was aimed at an older demographic than the previous Spyro games and had a darker tone to it (as well as having a strong focus on combat.) I thoroughly enjoyed the series despite them not being especially good games exactly because I liked the characters and the world.

In a similar way, what I like about MLP is the characters and the themes (I'm much less bothered by the world.) Though people joke about reforming every villain, the willingness to reach out to enemies is part of the ethos of the show and I view it as an important one. What worries me is that a darker tone might lose that, which would be a shame.

On the other hand, Fallout Equestria takes points 1 to 4 and meets all of them, and I rate that as one of the best novels I've ever read* (up there with Dune in how engaged I was with it) but I don't think that it lost too much of the ethos of the show.

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If you haven't read it, do. This isn't a massive spoiler, but it is a spoiler.

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Executing Autumn Leaf without much in the way of regret was perhaps one failing of it, but a lot of the time when Little Pip kills somebody they later come to regret it (or at least to think very hard about their motivation and justification for doing so.)

 So yes, I think that it could work. Indeed it does work in a lot of fan fictions - I've been reading 'The Freeport Venture' recently, and it hits points 2 and 4 very well. I'm just not sure whether something would be lost in the process.

 

 

*well, listened to. I came across a complete audiobook reading of it first, and as I had a lot of driving to do at the time I listened to it instead - all 60 hours of it. Given that I'm coming to the end of my third listen-through of it, it's fair to say that I rather enjoy it. 

To clarify, this is not supposed to be the darker and edgier version, it’s just it has its allowed to be darker and edgier if parts require it due to being targeted at a more mature audience. The reason it’s targetted towards a more mature audience is because the plot is more complex, not to give it edge.

[ShootingStar159 2,157]

All right, so I watched it. Well, some of it. Despite how we much I loved MAS and RDP, Greg’s end video rant at the end of the final episode of MAS has really soured his content for me, and none of the follow ups he’s made afterward, or any of his other content has intrigued me. It seems like we both were watching the show for entirely different reasons, and the criticisms he levels at the show lately all come across as bizarre to me. It also seems like his entire comment section is largely former fans of the show, rooting him on to validate their dislikes. But we’re not here to talk about him, let’s talk about your idea.

So, to repeat what I said in my first post, the slice-of-life episodes you want to cut almost completely out are why I watch the show in the first place. You say you don’t want an adventure show, but the ideas you laid out certainly sound like one. Regardless you replied that what the real focus of this show would be is a stronger canon.

I... don’t know how to respond to that. There was a time I might have agreed with you, but lately I’m far more interested in the characters than the world building. I guess the only thing I can say is that what your describing isn’t what I watch the show for. If I wanted to watch a show like your describing I’d just go rewatch Avatar or The Clone Wars.

If Hasbro we’re to make a show like your describing, I’d probably give it a try, but it’d be like going to IHOP and ordering a burger. Still tasty, but there are better places to get a burger.

[Jeric 46,860]

I'd probably pass on a concurrent or future MLP property that is too focused on adventure. I have too many great shows I watch that fit that mold right now. If it was a replacement show, I would likely take a look but would probably get board quickly. These writers are better within SoL, and other shows that do this better pay more and are better on one's resume. 

[Ganondox 899]

2 hours ago, ShootingStar159 said:

All right, so I watched it. Well, some of it. Despite how we much I loved MAS and RDP, Greg’s end video rant at the end of the final episode of MAS has really soured his content for me, and none of the follow ups he’s made afterward, or any of his other content has intrigued me. It seems like we both were watching the show for entirely different reasons, and the criticisms he levels at the show lately all come across as bizarre to me. It also seems like his entire comment section is largely former fans of the show, rooting him on to validate their dislikes. But we’re not here to talk about him, let’s talk about your idea.

So, to repeat what I said in my first post, the slice-of-life episodes you want to cut almost completely out are why I watch the show in the first place. You say you don’t want an adventure show, but the ideas you laid out certainly sound like one. Regardless you replied that what the real focus of this show would be is a stronger canon.

I... don’t know how to respond to that. There was a time I might have agreed with you, but lately I’m far more interested in the characters than the world building. I guess the only thing I can say is that what your describing isn’t what I watch the show for. If I wanted to watch a show like your describing I’d just go rewatch Avatar or The Clone Wars.

If Hasbro we’re to make a show like your describing, I’d probably give it a try, but it’d be like going to IHOP and ordering a burger. Still tasty, but there are better places to get a burger.

Having a stronger canon doesn’t just mean stronger world building, it also means stronger characters. As it, characterization is pretty inconsistent. Sometime it’s great, other times it’s quite poor. 

22 minutes ago, Jeric said:

I'd probably pass on a concurrent or future MLP property that is too focused on adventure. I have too many great shows I watch that fit that mold right now. If it was a replacement show, I would likely take a look but would probably get board quickly. These writers are better within SoL, and other shows that do this better pay more and are better on one's resume. 

I never said these writers would be involved, as I said in the topic title that it’s for the distant future. Whoever is best at writing such a thing should be writing it, with the world builders just there as creative consultants. 

[ShadOBabe 19,011]

You lost me at “Celestia is killed”. $@&% that.

Honestly, I have zero interest in something like this. Heavy, mature angst and drama is what fan content is for. But most of the time, I just want a relaxing romp in Equestria.

[BastementSparkle 20,328]

Eh, this sounds fine I suppose, but while I do like the Adventure stories, the worldbuilding and Mythos of the show, it's mostly the characters and Slice of Life stuff I enjoy. So a rebooted series that takes the slice of life stuff out and makes it all one big adventure type deal doesn't seem like the direction I'd want for the show. I'm also just not a fan of reboots at all in general, so restarting the series over and ignoring the original continuity alone would likely kill some interest I have pretty quick. If this was a new thing set in an entirely new world with new ponies that'd be one thing, but doing a specific "G4" reboot...Eh, no thanks.

I'd give this a try if it ever happened, and I'm sure it could be done well, but I'd probably just stick with my FIM in the end, there's already plenty of other shows out there that do this kinda thing.

[Ganondox 899]

5 minutes ago, ShadOBabe said:

You lost me at “Celestia is killed”. $@&% that.

Honestly, I have zero interest in something like this. Heavy, mature angst and drama is what fan content is for. But most of the time, I just want a relaxing romp in Equestria.

Or something. The point is that if Celestia doesn’t get incapacitated there isn’t much room for drama as she’s just too powerful or otherwise. The reason for permanent getting rid of her would be to open up a meaningful spot for Twilight, not just being heavy for the sake of heaviness. If you got a better idea, I’m all ears. 

[Steve Piranha 29,432]

Though I do like the world building and the occasional adventure, the character building the show has is the main course for me. They may do more adventure in a possible spin off, but I think we still have 2 years at least for that to happen

[Ganondox 899]

7 minutes ago, BasementSparkle said:

Eh, this sounds fine I suppose, but while I do like the Adventure stories, the worldbuilding and Mythos of the show, it's mostly the characters and Slice of Life stuff I enjoy. So a rebooted series that takes the slice of life stuff out and makes it all one big adventure type deal doesn't seem like the direction I'd want for the show. I'm also just not a fan of reboots at all in general, so restarting the series over and ignoring the original continuity alone would likely kill some interest I have pretty quick. If this was a new thing set in an entirely new world with new ponies that'd be one thing, but doing a specific "G4" reboot...Eh, no thanks.

I'd give this a try if it ever happened, and I'm sure it could be done well, but I'd probably just stick with my FIM in the end, there's already plenty of other shows out there that do this kinda thing.

The continuity as it is is a mess, there is no other way to put it. It’s inherent to the writing process of the show as there is no central vision. Sometimes you have to kill your darlings so they can be reborn as something better. You can still just transfer as many of the good parts of the original continuity over, just clean it all out in the process. 

[ShadOBabe 19,011]

Just now, Ganondox said:

Or something. The point is that if Celestia doesn’t get incapacitated there isn’t much room for drama as she’s just too powerful or otherwise. The reason for permanent getting rid of her would be to open up a meaningful spot for Twilight, not just being heavy for the sake of heaviness. If you got a better idea, I’m all ears. 

No I don’t have a better idea. Because as I said in my post, I wouldn’t want this type of series you’re suggesting at all. Outside of fan content.

[Ganondox 899]

To clarify, this is not meant to replace the show, it’s not meant to be G5 or anything like that, it’s just supposed to be a one-shot attempt at trying something different with the franchise in order to play to different strengths. By their nature, Slice of Life serials have a longer lifespan than adventure miniseries, there is no Hasbro would stop doing that completely. This is just to create something with a harder canon for people into that sort of thing. If you’ve stuck with the show for this long, it’s obviously not your biggest concern, as the show very much has a soft canon. 

2 minutes ago, ShadOBabe said:

No I don’t have a better idea. Because as I said in my post, I wouldn’t want this type of series you’re suggesting at all. Outside of fan content.

The show as it is might as well be fan content at this point as all the original writers are gone. It’s just fan content with rules, a seal, and a budget. 

Edited October 27, 2017 by Ganondox

[BastementSparkle 20,328]

6 minutes ago, Ganondox said:

The continuity as it is is a mess, there is no other way to put it. It’s inherent to the writing process of the show as there is no central vision. Sometimes you have to kill your darlings so they can be reborn as something better. You can still just transfer as many of the good parts of the original continuity over, just clean it all out in the process.

I don't really see how the continuity is that much of a mess? I've seen way worse continuity than this show. Unless you're counting expanded universe materials like the comics and books, then it can get a little messy. I'd rather put up with some slightly messy continuity than a reboot that tosses away most of that continuity anyway.

 

Edited October 27, 2017 by BasementSparkle

[Ganondox 899]

Another thing to consider, is that if such a miniseries is done, a slice of life series could be be spun off of that, as there would still be plenty of time in-universe not being covered and it’s easier to expand already capped plots by adding slice of life than with adventure. Again, I have nothing against slice of life, I love it, it just doesn’t work as well for the miniseries format. 

12 minutes ago, BasementSparkle said:

I don't really see how the continuity is that much of a mess? I've seen way worse continuity than this show. Unless you're counting expanded universe materials like the comics and books, then it can get a little messy. I'd rather put up with some slightly messy continuity than a reboot that tosses away most of that continuity anyway.

 

First off, look at my History of Equestria thread, I had to stretch stuff just to keep things consistent, we’ve gotten to that point. Second, continuity being a mess doesn’t just refer to consistency, but also why certain decisions were made. Fact is many events could have handled much better than they were if they were properly planned from the beginning and not just thrown together at the last second because the writers had to. As I said before, you don’t HAVE to throw anything a way, it’s just a matter of throwing the bad away so you can do the good better. Sometimes you’ll have to throw good away too, because it was made to cobble the bad together, and that’s sad, but it’s just the writing process. 

Edited October 27, 2017 by Ganondox

[BastementSparkle 20,328]

6 minutes ago, Ganondox said:

First off, look at my History of Equestria thread, I had to stretch stuff just to keep things consistent, we’ve gotten to that point. Second, continuity being a mess doesn’t just refer to consistency, but also why certain decisions were made. Fact is many events could have handled much better than they were if they were properly planned from the beginning and not just thrown together at the last second because the writers had to. 

Eh, the show's background mythology isn't that confusing. You have to fill in some gaps for yourself and think about which order certain things could happen in, but for the most part it's just stuff that's unexplained, not really contradictory stuff. As for things not being planned out from the start and so not being handled the greatest...I guess, I think most big things have ended up working out decently, even when they had some issues later episodes have fixed stuff up a bit for the most part.

 The thing is here, you're kind of pitching a different show entirely. Your ideas are fine in general, and it could make a decent show too, some people who don't like the way FIM has played out will like it for being more like what they wanted in the first place, but a lot of the people who genuinely love Friendship is Magic to this day probably won't be super thrilled. I love what the show's become over time, and no matter how good your reboot idea would be, it'd likely just make me miss FIM.

I'm not even really against the idea of a more serious, adventure-focused pony show with more of a focus on the mythos, but if you're going to do that I'd prefer it either be a G5 with no relation to FIM set in a totally new world, or a spin-off in the G4 universe that just stars a different group of ponies, rather than some reboot of our current show.

[Jeric 46,860]

1 hour ago, Ganondox said:

I never said these writers would be involved, as I said in the topic title that it’s for the distant future. Whoever is best at writing such a thing should be writing it, with the world builders just there as creative consultants. 

<sigh>

I didn't say you said that. I was giving my opinion on what I look for in my entertainment variety and pointed out an obvious challenge for a new adventure themed show, and whether or not I would be interested in what you proposed. 

I have no interest in playing king of the hill with debating a cartoon. Silly me for assuming that you actually were interested in other people's take instead of acknowledgement that your logic is sound and your idea is phenomenal. If that is what you need out of this topic, you won't get it from me. Sorry to disappoint. 

You have my thoughts on the matter, I'm confident that is my opinion. I stand by my opinion, I would likely have no interest in a mature adventure themed MLP show as I get that fix elsewhere, and via much better writers. You don't like that I feel that way, well I am sorry to say I can't help you with that one. 

Next time, don't start a quote with a phrase , "I didn't say ... ". It carries a specific connotation related to 'discussion' that I have no interest in. 

[Ganondox 899]

4 hours ago, BasementSparkle said:

Eh, the show's background mythology isn't that confusing. You have to fill in some gaps for yourself and think about which order certain things could happen in, but for the most part it's just stuff that's unexplained, not really contradictory stuff. As for things not being planned out from the start and so not being handled the greatest...I guess, I think most big things have ended up working out decently, even when they had some issues later episodes have fixed stuff up a bit for the most part.

 The thing is here, you're kind of pitching a different show entirely. Your ideas are fine in general, and it could make a decent show too, some people who don't like the way FIM has played out will like it for being more like what they wanted in the first place, but a lot of the people who genuinely love Friendship is Magic to this day probably won't be super thrilled. I love what the show's become over time, and no matter how good your reboot idea would be, it'd likely just make me miss FIM.

I'm not even really against the idea of a more serious, adventure-focused pony show with more of a focus on the mythos, but if you're going to do that I'd prefer it either be a G5 with no relation to FIM set in a totally new world, or a spin-off in the G4 universe that just stars a different group of ponies, rather than some reboot of our current show.

Being a kids show, everything is pretty straightforward. I didn’t say it was confusing, I said it’s a mess. The problem isn’t that things are left unexplained, it’s that there is nothing to be explained. The lore is completely ad-hoc, being constructed not to fill in holes, but to provide branches to new ideas, often forgetting about central cohesion. It can be assembled into something semi-coherent if you make an effort, just like the Zelda timeline, but it’s obvious either case is forced and had next to no factor in the creative process. 

Yes, it’s a completely different show to some degree, but making be about something different completely defeats the purpose of it. The purpose is refine the lore of Equestria and give new purpose to beloved characters, not to be another random fantasy series, or to be a random adventure in an already broken world. It doesn’t mean FiM needs to die, any more than the existence of the show means the comics must end or visa versa. It’s just exploiting the softness of the franchise canon to let something crystallized form in it’s nurturing solution, free from the usual influences that lead to mythos entropy. It want to see this because I love the show, and want to see what could have been done with it if they took another path because it has so much potential. Aside from the nessecary resource investment required to produce such a series and the related opportunity cost, I think it’s completely harmless.

 

3 hours ago, Jeric said:

<sigh>

I didn't say you said that. I was giving my opinion on what I look for in my entertainment variety and pointed out an obvious challenge for a new adventure themed show, and whether or not I would be interested in what you proposed. 

I have no interest in playing king of the hill with debating a cartoon. Silly me for assuming that you actually were interested in other people's take instead of acknowledgement that your logic is sound and your idea is phenomenal. If that is what you need out of this topic, you won't get it from me. Sorry to disappoint. 

You have my thoughts on the matter, I'm confident that is my opinion. I stand by my opinion, I would likely have no interest in a mature adventure themed MLP show as I get that fix elsewhere, and via much better writers. You don't like that I feel that way, well I am sorry to say I can't help you with that one. 

Next time, don't start a quote with a phrase , "I didn't say ... ". It carries a specific connotation related to 'discussion' that I have no interest in. 

What. You last comment confused me, and this one confuses me even more, I seriously don’t think you actually paid much attention to what I wrote and started taking this too personally. I don’t think my logic is impeccable by any means, I just want to see support because this is something *I* want to see, and without support it’s never going to happen. Should I not respond to criticism and clarify my stance, should I just accept it’s a failed cause because some people are uninterested? I respected dissenting opinions, I just commented on specific points, especially where I feel there was a misunderstanding.

 Anyway, this is a plan for the distant future, so the current state of the industry and were the best writers are is irrelevant, so I don’t know why you’re bringing it up. I was just addressing that one point where you appeared to be making a mistaken assumption about my idea, that’s all. Your opinion has been noted, but probably won’t amount to much as the idea isn’t geared to you. I care more about the criticism from people who do care as they are the ones who would be impacted. I don’t know how could be confused about my goals when in the OP I specifically stated “ Does any one else think this is a good idea? If you don't, that's not going to stop me from pitching this 20 years from now, but if we can get it rolling before I'm a middle aged man the better.” Frankly BasementSparkle’s criticism has been the most meaningful to me so far, as while I disagree with it at least they have a concern other than simply being uninterested. 

Edited October 28, 2017 by Ganondox

[Sun Ray 333]

PLEASE READ AT LEAST THE END!!

I only read about a half of the comments so forgive me if I'm missing something.  I think it's a really good idea for the show honestly, I'm just afraid what it would do to the younger  audience.

 It's already messed up enough to where if I look up Pinkie Pie eating an apple, I get Pinkie/A Bloom porn.  And if we make it PG-13, it'll overflow with more fans that are capable of posting porn on the internet.

Anyways, what I'm trying to say is that if the brony count gets too high we all might ruin all the little girls minds with wierd poop porn.

Fortunately I have some news to satisfy what your looking for.  There's a youtuber and his name is joey-o.  His channel name is weirdly "shmed1" and on the channel is a show he made called "pony meets world". You should check it out. The acting isn't all that great but who says it isn't absolutely hilarious.

Edited October 28, 2017 by Sun Ray

[Ganondox 899]

1 hour ago, Sun Ray said:

PLEASE READ AT LEAST THE END!!

I only read about a half of the comments so forgive me if I'm missing something.  I think it's a really good idea for the show honestly, I'm just afraid what it would do to the younger  audience.

 It's already messed up enough to where if I look up Pinkie Pie eating an apple, I get Pinkie/A Bloom porn.  And if we make it PG-13, it'll overflow with more fans that are capable of posting stuff on the internet.

Anyways, what I'm trying to say is that if the brony count gets too high we all might ruin all the little girls minds with wierd poop porn.

Fortunately I have some news to satisfy what your looking for.  There's a youtuber and his name is joey-o.  His channel name is weirdly "shmed1" and on the channel is a show he made called "pony meets world". You should check it out. The acting isn't all that great but who says it isn't absolutely hilarious.

It’s already flooded with porn, like everything else. Don’t think it can really get any worse. What I meant was that PG-13 is the absolute cap, not that it should necessarily ever get the bad. I meant that it terms of content it should stay kid friendly or at least teen friendly in terms of “content”, even if the ideas get rather complex. And once again, this is not supposed to replace the main series, the main show would still be targeted at a younger audience. 

Ponies meet world, btw, is pretty much the opposite of what I’m looking for. The closest to what I’m looking for would actually by the My Little Pony Movie. Take that same tone, but make it the core rather than just a tangent to the series with no real impact. 

Edited October 28, 2017 by Ganondox

[Plonkett 345]

We can have a Guardians of Harmony spinoff show for the adventure stuff, and have FiM for the slice of life stuff.

[Sun Ray 333]

3 hours ago, Ganondox said:

It’s already flooded with porn, like everything else. Don’t think it can really get any worse. What I meant was that PG-13 is the absolute cap, not that it should necessarily ever get the bad. I meant that it terms of content it should stay kid friendly or at least teen friendly in terms of “content”, even if the ideas get rather complex. And once again, this is not supposed to replace the main series, the main show would still be targeted at a younger audience. 

Ponies meet world, btw, is pretty much the opposite of what I’m looking for. The closest to what I’m looking for would actually by the My Little Pony Movie. Take that same tone, but make it the core rather than just a tangent to the series with no real impact. 

Ohhhhhhhh. I gettcha. I missed something...darn