ooc Salem University OOC (Open)

[Duality 10,739]

2 minutes ago, Denim&Venom said:

She probably sees little use in magic school since her job prospects are gonna be lousy regardless of whether she masters her powers or not. Further compounded by the fact that Salem at that point probably still functioned on the industrial model of schooling. Which ironically, is great in prepping for the workforce, but not so much in anything else. 

So during this tumultuous time of adolescent angst, rebellion and broken dreams, that Miko was more than a handfull for most teachers, being disruptive, argumentative, belligerent and combative, seeing little to no reason to respect the authority of anyone in that school. Made even worse when the staff slowly learn that Miko is much much smarter than she lets on. 

All quite realistic, save that Salem never really operated on an industrial model of schooling. Lazel was a revolutionary in more ways than one and far too savvy to prep students for opportunities that didn't exist, not to mention that he was well-travelled and thus had the opportunity to apply some of the principles of teaching from the various cultures he was familiar with to the University.

1 minute ago, Buck Testa said:

I'd imagine that they'd have to develop sports catered towards magic. Although the power discrepancy would  make standardizing any kind of sport rather difficult. 

While duelling is the school's iconic sport, I'm sure there'd be other, less violent, methods of testing your sporting prowess against others. Races would certainly be more interesting if participants were allowed to boost themselves with their powers.

1 minute ago, Denim&Venom said:

Problem with that is it's been stated there aren't that many magic users, and even less that would wanna do sports. 

What'd we have it at? One in a million are enchanted? So fewer than 8000? Only a fraction would want to do any sport, and a fraction of that fraction would want to do a specific sport. 

Perhaps a small selection of professional sports, but less strict/specialised forms of competition might well be healthier for the magical community overall, since it would work against the elitism rampant in far too many high-brow sporting groups around nowadays.

[Buck Testa 5,505]

Martial arts seems to be a sport a few here are into. Dru is purely a glass cannon right now, but I could see her taking an interest in that with her power repressed. I know there are people who combat train on campus so she could be interested in joining in on that. 

[Denim&Venöm 18,689]

1 minute ago, Duality said:

All quite realistic, save that Salem never really operated on an industrial model of schooling. Lazel was a revolutionary in more ways than one and far too savvy to prep students for opportunities that didn't exist, not to mention that he was well-travelled and thus had the opportunity to apply some of the principles of teaching from the various cultures he was familiar with to the University.

While duelling is the school's iconic sport, I'm sure there'd be other, less violent, methods of testing your sporting prowess against others. Races would certainly be more interesting if participants were allowed to boost themselves with their powers.

Perhaps a small selection of professional sports, but less strict/specialised forms of competition might well be healthier for the magical community overall, since it would work against the elitism rampant in far too many high-brow sporting groups around nowadays.

May have to tweak Miko's antagonstic attitude towards the school then. Maybe less with the way it's taught and just more with what is taught, as well as issues with staff in general. Kinda why she insisted on her course being a thing. 

Just now, Buck Testa said:

Martial arts seems to be a sport a few here are into. Dru is purely a glass cannon right now, but I could see her taking an interest in that with her power repressed. I know there are people who combat train on campus so she could be interested in joining in on that. 

Good segue. I may have missed them but were the dueling rules ever made clear and were there any changes over the years? 

Cause I planned on Miko holding the record for most duels in school history. Though how she won may depend upon what the rules are. 

[Buck Testa 5,505]

Just now, Denim&Venom said:

May have to tweak Miko's antagonstic attitude towards the school then. Maybe less with the way it's taught and just more with what is taught, as well as issues with staff in general. Kinda why she insisted on her course being a thing. 

Good segue. I may have missed them but were the dueling rules ever made clear and were there any changes over the years? 

Cause I planned on Miko holding the record for most duels in school history. Though how she won may depend upon what the rules are. 

That would be good. We could use that as a way for Dru to work through her issues and prejudices with Canine Pelajae. 

[Denim&Venöm 18,689]

4 minutes ago, Buck Testa said:

That would be good. We could use that as a way for Dru to work through her issues and prejudices with Canine Pelajae. 

I had planned for Miko/ Mindy to have a self defense course / martial arts club set up in the future. Can't really have any bullies if everyone knows how to fight. 

[Duality 10,739]

6 minutes ago, Buck Testa said:

Martial arts seems to be a sport a few here are into. Dru is purely a glass cannon right now, but I could see her taking an interest in that with her power repressed. I know there are people who combat train on campus so she could be interested in joining in on that. 

There's a novel idea. Maybe she'll even get to discover the truth behind the combat tutor's alleged mass grave. 

1 minute ago, Denim&Venom said:

I may have missed them but were the dueling rules ever made clear and were there any changes over the years? 

Cause I planned on Miko holding the record for most duels in school history. Though how she won may depend upon what the rules are. 

Surprisingly enough, the duelling rules don't seem to have been detailed at all - save that minors like Dru have to be signed off by a responsible adult. There's always a panel of staff present to make sure nobody gets killed or maimed (intervening if need be), and obviously you're not supposed to try to kill or maim your opponent (probably punishable if it's malicious and sufficiently evident), but other than that I think it's mostly a free-for-all, terminating if you manage to pin or stun your opponent for ten counted-off seconds.

Did you mean most duels won in school history, or does Miko just try to fight everyone? The record for percentage won would probably go to someone who started their tenure at the school with more experience in combat (like what's-his-face the magic-nullifier combat tutor), but if Miko targeted her duels often enough at people she knew she could beat she could probably get a record like the former.

[Buck Testa 5,505]

7 minutes ago, Duality said:

There's a novel idea. Maybe she'll even get to discover the truth behind the combat tutor's alleged mass grave. 

Surprisingly enough, the duelling rules don't seem to have been detailed at all - save that minors like Dru have to be signed off by a responsible adult. There's always a panel of staff present to make sure nobody gets killed or maimed (intervening if need be), and obviously you're not supposed to try to kill or maim your opponent (probably punishable if it's malicious and sufficiently evident), but other than that I think it's mostly a free-for-all, terminating if you manage to pin or stun your opponent for ten counted-off seconds.

Did you mean most duels won in school history, or does Miko just try to fight everyone? The record for percentage won would probably go to someone who started their tenure at the school with more experience in combat (like what's-his-face the magic-nullifier combat tutor), but if Miko targeted her duels often enough at people she knew she could beat she could probably get a record like the former.

Oh yeah I forgot about that. Dru still totally thinks that's a real thing too lol. 

Martial arts training would help her define her fighting style with repressed magic, with a more hands on approach instead of standing back and letting the towering monolithic plants do all the work. 

[Denim&Venöm 18,689]

7 minutes ago, Duality said:

There's a novel idea. Maybe she'll even get to discover the truth behind the combat tutor's alleged mass grave. 

Surprisingly enough, the duelling rules don't seem to have been detailed at all - save that minors like Dru have to be signed off by a responsible adult. There's always a panel of staff present to make sure nobody gets killed or maimed (intervening if need be), and obviously you're not supposed to try to kill or maim your opponent (probably punishable if it's malicious and sufficiently evident), but other than that I think it's mostly a free-for-all, terminating if you manage to pin or stun your opponent for ten counted-off seconds.

Did you mean most duels won in school history, or does Miko just try to fight everyone? The record for percentage won would probably go to someone who started their tenure at the school with more experience in combat (like what's-his-face the magic-nullifier combat tutor), but if Miko targeted her duels often enough at people she knew she could beat she could probably get a record like the former.

The latter. She picked fights on a weekly basis against student and teacher alike. And got her ass kicked her entire first year. Second year was more half and half. Third year was 80 percent win loss and senior year she was undefeated. Yeah, Miko canbe beat, but she's never lost to the same opponent twice. 

And after four years as part of a counter magic paramilitary task force (something else to hash out) and four years in teacher training, she came back to the school all grown up and ready to go on the war path against everyone at Salem who dared give her a hard time. 

But more on that later. I need to get some sleep. 

[Passion 3,484]

7 hours ago, Denim&Venom said:

So during this tumultuous time of adolescent angst, rebellion and broken dreams, that Miko was more than a handfull for most teachers, being disruptive, argumentative, belligerent and combative, seeing little to no reason to respect the authority of anyone in that school.

Okay, so that's when she was a student if I get it right? Now, once we transfer into the adulthood...

6 hours ago, Denim&Venom said:

May have to tweak Miko's antagonstic attitude towards the school then. Maybe less with the way it's taught and just more with what is taught, as well as issues with staff in general.

...she still seems to express disdain towards authorities of any sort and sounds to be a rebellious soul travelling her way. Therefore...

6 hours ago, Denim&Venom said:

And after four years as part of a counter magic paramilitary task force

...how does this translate? If I am not mistaken, any military forces require near-blind obedience and the ability to follow orders to the latter. They are a cooperation based units. Miko's personality so far doesn't fall even close to being able to withstand so much time with the military, which I imagine would require her to fall in line.

 

Also, with the way you are shaping up her duel record, I presume you are following Duality's suggestion that she only picks fight with magical users she knows near sure she can defeat. Otherwise if we assume she just throws challenges left and right without knowing anyone's powers, we would have to basically acknowledge she's stronger than more than at least, about, 82% of all magical users altogether if not more, since she never loses a second duel? I understand adaptation to one's combat mechanics, but why would that skill be applicable only to her and not her opponnents? Was she only fighting reckless people with no vision and thought process at all ?

[Denim&Venöm 18,689]

5 hours ago, Passion said:

Okay, so that's when she was a student if I get it right? Now, once we transfer into the adulthood...

...she still seems to express disdain towards authorities of any sort and sounds to be a rebellious soul travelling her way. Therefore...

...how does this translate? If I am not mistaken, any military forces require near-blind obedience and the ability to follow orders to the latter. They are a cooperation based units. Miko's personality so far doesn't fall even close to being able to withstand so much time with the military, which I imagine would require her to fall in line.

 

Also, with the way you are shaping up her duel record, I presume you are following Duality's suggestion that she only picks fight with magical users she knows near sure she can defeat. Otherwise if we assume she just throws challenges left and right without knowing anyone's powers, we would have to basically acknowledge she's stronger than more than at least, about, 82% of all magical users altogether if not more, since she never loses a second duel? I understand adaptation to one's combat mechanics, but why would that skill be applicable only to her and not her opponnents? Was she only fighting reckless people with no vision and thought process at all ?

She went to the task force as A. It's the only work she could find that could even remotley use her combat training. B. It's a bit of a family business. And C. She did it more to prove to herself that she wasn't just a rebeleous brat and that there were competant leaders in the world, people who weren't in it for power or would blindly lead her off a cliff. Though subconsciously, she was ultimately looking for confirmation bias. That there are worthy authority figures out there. Just not anyone at Salem, and therefore she has justification in her head to be antagonistic. 

initially she was throwing challenges left and right, as there was no real way to scout an opponent other than fighting them. What other way was there to prove that she was not one to be messed with? 

For certain students and teachers, yeah they were the reckless type. Others knew what they were doing and mopped the floor with her. The bulk of her record were her senior and sophomore years. She took less fights as she progressed, her victories disuading challenges, as well as just running out of people to fight. 

Stronger than 82 percent? Fair assessment. For if she were easy to deal with, no one would take her seriously. Though the real reason she's so dominant is her exploiting a loophole in the rules. Win by knockout or submission. Rules don't say how. And it's a fair assessment that most students and teachers are neither physical speciments or trained fighters. Therefore, Miko ultimatley used her magic to medigate the powers of others, and turn the duel into a straight up fight.  

As to why she's so adaptive? Well it's not an exclusive power. Anyone can adapt to an opponents fighting style and tactics. Miko just does so faster cause she's a super-genius. Think Erwin Rommel meets Sun Tzu. 

However, there are two people she's lost to that she hasn't gotten a rematch yet. First is the last person to beat her: Miss Mindy Fenris, someone who's just as adept a fighter and could tank whatever offense Miko could throw at her, magic or otherwise. 

The second would be the man himself, Gaberiel Lazel. 

 

[Buck Testa 5,505]

@Denim&Venom @Passion

5 hours ago, Passion said:

...how does this translate? If I am not mistaken, any military forces require near-blind obedience and the ability to follow orders to the latter. They are a cooperation based units. Miko's personality so far doesn't fall even close to being able to withstand so much time with the military, which I imagine would require her to fall in line.

 

There is a way to make that work I would think. Miko has been considered a delinquent during her youth, AND she is one of the rare magic users, I  could see a government using the military as a place to put her. She would in inherently be harder to control than a normal person because of her abilities, so she would probably be sectioned off into her own specific group designed to figure out how to use her. 

2 hours ago, Denim&Venom said:

She went to the task force as A. It's the only work she could find that could even remotley use her combat training. B. It's a bit of a family business. And C. She did it more to prove to herself that she wasn't just a rebeleous brat and that there were competant leaders in the world, people who weren't in it for power or would blindly lead her off a cliff. Though subconsciously, she was ultimately looking for confirmation bias. That there are worthy authority figures out there. Just not anyone at Salem, and therefore she has justification in her head to be antagonistic. 

 Perhaps she went into the military because she really didn't have another place to go? Being one 1 out of 8000 magic users and a loose cannon in terms of personality is a casserole of justifications to discriminate against and ostracize her from communities.  Those type of personalities can't exactly hold jobs either, especially when they think they are better than the labor they are given. However people who are starved for recognition and validation will absolutely latch onto something they find they are actually good at. Perhaps the military is the place she finally found a place she could excel at, where her magic and her interests are an asset and not considered a liability. 

2 hours ago, Denim&Venom said:

Stronger than 82 percent? Fair assessment. For if she were easy to deal with, no one would take her seriously. Though the real reason she's so dominant is her exploiting a loophole in the rules. Win by knockout or submission. Rules don't say how. And it's a fair assessment that most students and teachers are neither physical speciments or trained fighters. Therefore, Miko ultimately used her magic to medigate the powers of others, and turn the duel into a straight up fight.  

Winning by any means necessary is a military idea to be sure. Exploiting anything from the rules of the game to weaknesses in the opponents personality and powers would allow more victories for sure even if she wasn't explicitly more  powerful than most people.

 

Just some thoughts. 

[Buck Testa 5,505]

@Denim&Venom Gonna just make sure I get this out here before this rp  goes places that gets it locked. Lets steer clear of suggestive content in the rp please. This site is very aggressively against that stuff and I'd rather people not get temporarily banned for an rp. Not saying that post necessarily crosses that line, but it's a bit too close for comfort. 

[Passion 3,484]

@Buck Testa@Denim&Venom

Suggestive jokes and implications are fine, it's straightforward explicit and NSFW content mentions leaving no room for imagination that are absolutely forbidden.

We have let much more suggestive things than that go, you needn't worry about this part.

This applies to all kind of content, be it images or fanfics, RP is not outside these boundaries.

 

You actually do have 3* staff members in here, but we will still poke at you if you start going places you shouldn't. For now I see no issues here, suggestive is allowed. Just, y'know, everything in balanced manner and good taste.

*Forgot to mention Mentis, sorry Mentis. D:

[Buck Testa 5,505]

Just now, Passion said:

@Buck Testa@Denim&Venom

Suggestive jokes and implications are fine, it's straightforward explicit and NSFW content mentions leaving no room for imagination that are absolutely forbidden.

We have let much more suggestive things than that go, you needn't worry about this part.

This applies to all kind of content, be it images or fanfics, RP is not outside these boundaries.

 

You actually do have 2 staff members in here, but we will still poke at you if you start going places you shouldn't. For now I see no issues here, suggestive is allowed. Just, y'know, everything in balanced manner and good taste.

If you say so. With this site I don't like to get even close to the line personally, gives me anxiety.

[Passion 3,484]

30 minutes ago, Buck Testa said:

If you say so. With this site I don't like to get even close to the line personally, gives me anxiety.

Trust me, I understand that far too well. It's the main reason I resigned from previous forums.

Nevertheless, you would have to post something completely tasteless and straightforward ignoring the PG13 rating in order to get yourself in trouble.

Dru not even getting close to those topics pretty much goes without saying. We don't want FBI barging in and I know you know it

Obviously, you playing it safe hurts nobody. But if we have doubts whether the line has been crossed, we usually just contact the user to ask them to tone it down a notch. Suggestive/saucy/explicit is a very slippery, subjective topic and we know it far too well.

[dragon4111 914]

@Denim&Venom

What?! What?! WHAAAAAT!

@Buck Testa

I was not expecting that.

[dragon4111 914]

@Denim&Venom

So she likes having her tail man handled?

[Denim&Venöm 18,689]

19 minutes ago, dragon4111 said:

@Denim&Venom

So she likes having her tail man handled?

She very well might. Miko is confident with her sexuality to an almost war like degree. Heck, she'd even put the moves on a few teachers, if their woeful incompetence putting the world in danger wasn't such a turn off for her. 

[dragon4111 914]

@Denim&Venom

Well Ghalan's at a lost for words. but it's not going to stop him from asking her to go with him to the policeman's ball.

Edited February 12, 2019 by dragon4111

[Denim&Venöm 18,689]

Just now, dragon4111 said:

@Denim&Venom

Well Ghalan's at a lost for words. but it's not going to stop him from asking her to go with him to the policeman's ball.

Didn't he already ask someone? 

[dragon4111 914]

@Denim&Venom

Nope He asked Ira but she wasn't in her right mind.

[Denim&Venöm 18,689]

2 minutes ago, dragon4111 said:

@Denim&Venom

Nope He asked Ira but she wasn't in her right mind.

We'll have to see how that plays out.

And if Ghalan can defeat her chosen champion for her hand to the ball. 

[dragon4111 914]

@Denim&Venom

Oh boy and that would be?

[Passion 3,484]

I absolutely hate you guys :x

[dragon4111 914]

@Passion

What'd I do?