Sepul-Coloratura 762 September 19, 2018 Share September 19, 2018 (edited) The only thing could possibly win the allmighty god of chaos seemed like the elements of harmony. Then, in A Matter of Principals, Spoiler Discord tricks the Cutie Map. That means it’s power can be compromised, manipulated, corrupted. I know not good writing was involved in this episode, but it’s canon now. Discord can trick the tree of harmony. The divine force of higher power. Edited September 19, 2018 by Sepul-Coloratura 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Guide 21,362 September 19, 2018 Share September 19, 2018 What nonsense! And it's only because it's nonsense that he was able to pull it off. Nonsense is his thing! It won't happen again! 3 A Dragon as big as his love for Disney and has his head in the clouds literally and figuratively Ask Will Guide | Signature by Wife of Hawks | WiiGuy2014’s OCs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShootingStar159 2,157 September 19, 2018 Share September 19, 2018 If that was true, he wouldn’t have needed a plot to steal the Tree of Harmony’s power with the plunderseeds. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sondash Studios 4,849 September 19, 2018 Share September 19, 2018 Well, he is powerful enough to mess up everything. Pretty cool power if you ask me. Tell me this isn't the cutest thing you've seen all day? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misty Shadow 7,943 September 19, 2018 Share September 19, 2018 "What gibberish! And he's teaching it?!" That joke aside, I do not believe Discord is more powerful than the elements. He was defeated by the elements. Just because you can be outsmarted by a master trickster doesn't necessarily mean you're weaker than a master trickster. Strength and intelligence aren't the same thing. All of the Mane 6 were tricked by him, and they still defeated him in the end because one of the show's obvious overall messages is that good is more powerful than evil. Comet's still best boi. <3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will Guide 21,362 September 19, 2018 Share September 19, 2018 26 minutes ago, Sondash Studios said: Well, he is powerful enough to mess up everything. Pretty cool power if you ask me. Not powerful to stop being turned to stone once the proper bearers use the Elements at their full power. 2 A Dragon as big as his love for Disney and has his head in the clouds literally and figuratively Ask Will Guide | Signature by Wife of Hawks | WiiGuy2014’s OCs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BastementSparkle 20,328 September 19, 2018 Share September 19, 2018 Well, the elements were capable of imprisoning him in a stone statue for more than a thousand years, so I don't think it's as simple as that. It also took over a thousand years without the elements before the tree was finally weakened enough for his plunder vines to get to it as well. Discord is the spirit of Chaos and Disharmony, and the tree of Harmony is a being of...well, Harmony. They're natural opposites that oppose one another, I think it's likely that neither of them is necessarily outright 100% more powerful than the other, more that they work differently and are both capable of affecting each other to some degree. Discord was capable of messing with the map, which is connected to the tree of harmony like the elements, yes, but that doesn't mean he could necessarily mess with the elements themselves, as the map and the elements, while created from the same source, are not the same thing. So, saying he's stronger than the elements just cause he can mess with the map is kinda jumping the gun, we've seen the elements work on him twice, and he couldn't seem to stop them, there's far more evidence that he's weaker than the elements than the other way around. Twilight is best pony. Why hello MLPForums! What have ya been up to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sepul-Coloratura 762 September 19, 2018 Author Share September 19, 2018 Y’all reasonably right. Though I was shocked to see Discord trick the tree of harmony so easily since I thought the tree of harmony was like a divine intervention. (like how it knows every disharmony going on and knows exactly who can fix it, how it obliterated the mean six). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sondash Studios 4,849 September 20, 2018 Share September 20, 2018 2 hours ago, Willusion said: Not powerful to stop being turned to stone once the proper bearers use the Elements at their full power. Good point. Or unless hyper sonic comes and lends a hand. Tell me this isn't the cutest thing you've seen all day? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadeda 178 September 20, 2018 Share September 20, 2018 He's not more powerful than the elements... but he is powerful enough to trick the table... once. I don't even think he's all that much more powerful than the Alicorns... he just has different magic. Twilight was able to block his spells when she was a unicorn. Celestia can put spells on stuff that render him unable to mess with whatever she is putting the spell on. I would say that Starlight banished him from the school but there's a good chance he wanted that to happen. I think it's more that he's tricky than overwhelmingly more powerful than them. He thinks differently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambdadelta 1,462 September 20, 2018 Share September 20, 2018 The table is just a part of the Tree, and the table is a part of the Castle, which is a part of tree itself. Even Starlight could use the map for her evil plot in Cutie Remark but why the Tree didn't stop it? Maybe because it just let it happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goat-kun 2,528 September 21, 2018 Share September 21, 2018 You have all been deceived. Chaos is but a name, and this name describes a magic of light. A child of light, no matter how volatile, will return to its creator. He only interacted with a schism in time and space leading up into the heavenly abyss where the dormant Elder Light spreads its tendrils among the stars. Soon, he too shall serve, consumed by the web of hungering radiance. Small actions, perceived victories, these do not matter to a timeless being. In the end, the only true enemies of Harmony are darkness and nature. Would awakening those gods save ponies, or would they just fall prey to a different kind of madness. One is free to choose their brand of hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH24 385 September 21, 2018 Share September 21, 2018 With all due respect, did Discord really trick the elements though? Didn't he just put an illusion on the table? Even their flashing cutie marks were different from usual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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