What Happened to Disney?

[irobern2857 95]

This has been bugging the hell out of me for a while. This romantic view of classic Disney movies and constant shating on modern Disney films which to me is based soley on the fact that it is new (or worse CGI) and therefore not as good as the 90s films. I loved Bolt (it's what got me to start paying attention to Disney again), Tangled, Princess and the Frog and even Winnie the Pooh. I don't think Disney is any worse off now then it was 20 years ago. I still think Disney movies (and that doesn't include Pixar) have a unique style of storytelling that hasn't change since Snow White in 1937. I'm fully looking forward to Wreck-It Ralph and will be seeing it in theatres and not thinking the whole time ""I wish this more like classic Disney"

 

we have come to a general conciseness that not all of the new cgi movies are bad but we prefer the older 2d films. our main problem now is the tv shows and the child celebrities that get messed of after they are done like Miley Cyrus was addicted to the spotlight after her show stopped and there were a lot of incidents that have shown that she is not over this. she is also not the only one that this has happened to.

[Regality 233]

Corporate greed leads to a lower quality as a result of them finding certain aspects that appeal to children, and just repeating the same ideas over and over again, with very little variety.

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[Unexard 50]

It's only nostalgia and you growing up, I don't think their movies are worse than before. Disney will always stay the same in my book.

[Miss Light Diamond 2,802]

I just dont know, ever since they started making seconds thats when they started to go downhill, but I thought, Tangled, Wall-e, Toy story 3, and, The princess and the frog, were all pretty good.

[Cookie Feather 490]

I'm going to work for Disney one day and I've been studying on it a lot lately~ just to be knowledgeable in it. They seem to desire to work toward the new medias and such, for example, Gravity Falls, looks oddly familiar to the latest Cartoon Network styles that people on the internet like.

 

I've heard that they're also creating a Disney Social Networking site, but for kids. Hence their website now is kinda like that. Their CEO is ruining Disney, nothing is classic and pure anymore. It's just all about the money. They're bringing up old movies in 3D just to get an extra buck or two in. You know how disappointed I was seeing the Finding Nemo 3D commercial for the first time? It's ridiculous, come on Disney, go back to your original ways.

 

I mean...I know that Walt Disney always wanted to use the latest and most advanced technology, but I bet he'd be disappointed in the way that his company's turning out to be~

Edited August 28, 2012 by Honey Puff

[brian577 120]

I'm going to work for Disney one day and I've been studying on it a lot lately~ just to be knowledgeable in it. They seem to desire to work toward the new medias and such, for example, Gravity Falls, looks oddly familiar to the latest Cartoon Network styles that people on the internet like.

 

I've heard that they're also creating a Disney Social Networking site, but for kids. Hence their website now is kinda like that. Their CEO is ruining Disney, nothing is classic and pure anymore. It's just all about the money. They're bringing up old movies in 3D just to get an extra buck or two in. You know how disappointed I was seeing the Finding Nemo 3D commercial for the first time? It's ridiculous, come on Disney, go back to your original ways.

 

I mean...I know that Walt Disney always wanted to use the latest and most advanced technology, but I bet he'd be disappointed in the way that his company's turning out to be~

 

Your information is a bit outdated. Robert Iger has been trying to turn the company around since Micheal Isner was replaced in 2005. And with John Lasseter taking over as Chief Creative Officer for both Disney and Pixar the quality of the movies has been steadly on the rise. The TV side of things hasn't produced a lot of good things lately but I've heard good things about Gravity Falls (probably helps that former FiM story editor Rob Renzetti is working on the show) and Tron Uprising is turning out to be a fantastic series, probably the darkest and most dramatic series they've made since Gargoyles. Plus Craig McCraken and Lauren Faust's series Wander Over Younder starts next year

Edited August 28, 2012 by brian577

[Cookie Feather 490]

Your information is a bit outdated. Robert Iger has been trying to turn the company around since Micheal Isner was replaced in 2005. And with John Lasseter taking over as Chief Creative Officer for both Disney and Pixar the quality of the movies has been steadly on the rise. The TV side of things hasn't produced a lot of good things lately but I've heard good things about Gravity Falls (probably helps that former FiM story editor Rob Renzetti is working on the show) and Tron Uprising is turning out to be a fantastic series, probably the darkest and most dramatic series they've made since Gargoyles.

 

I still don't like the idea of re-releasing movies in 3D, even though 3D's kinda neat to other people.

Yeah, they still need to knock off the cheesy reality-like shows and such, after Hanna Montana...erm. :T

I know other people liked it, like little kids, but they missed out on the old Playhouse Disney. I'm not sure, have they ever had a day when they just had all their old shows play, like Rollie Pollie Ollie, or uh, Outside of the Box? Braceface? Even the slightly disturbing Doodlebops? D8

If they did, they'd get a lot of the older, teens watching and relieving the memories. >:

[brian577 120]

I still don't like the idea of re-releasing movies in 3D, even though 3D's kinda neat to other people.

 

Did you see The Lion King and Beauty and the Beast in 3D? They looked incredible, I don't care for things jumping out at me but the way depth was added to these movies looked so amazing. Yeah it's a cheap way to get money, but even if they weren't in 3D I would have gone anyway and I'm sure many others would have. There is just something magical about seeing a classic Disney movie in theatres. And for the record Disney was rereleasing movies in theatres long before 3D came around particularly before it was possible to rent movies, it's not a new tactic.

Edited August 28, 2012 by brian577

[Cookie Feather 490]

Did you see The Lion King and Beauty and the Beast in 3D? They looked incredible, I don't care for things jumping out at me but the way depth was added to these movies looked so amazing. Yeah it's a cheap way to get money, but even if it they weren't in 3D I would have gone anyway and I'm sure many others would have. There is just something magical about seeing a classic Disney movie in theatres.

 

I did, but I had to take off the glasses because they were annoying to have on over my own~ and it's true that there's something magical about seeing a classic Disney movie in theatres. > x <;

[Acoustic Cloud 2,202]

yes MOST Disney movies now a days are much much worse than the good old originals.

The only disney movie i liked as of "recent" was UP but nothing since then, and a few randomly in between.

[irobern2857 95]

yes MOST Disney movies now a days are much much worse than the good old originals.

The only disney movie i liked as of "recent" was UP but nothing since then, and a few randomly in between.

 

I did like Up it had a good plot to it and it was able to make a better love story in the first five minutes then five movies of Twilight.

[SpikeyWikey07 58]

WARNING!

 

This post might be rather vague, but I have to say it.

 

5-letter word to sum them up.

 

G R E E D !

 

Instead of putting any likely effort to create something original or look upon the many tales from the Grimm Brothers, which is where most of their films are from. This has simply drove me away from them and in most ways, away from the big-name companies and stuck with independent filmmakers who try to make a proper effort to entertain the audience which isn't always easy.

[brian577 120]

yes MOST Disney movies now a days are much much worse than the good old originals.

The only disney movie i liked as of "recent" was UP but nothing since then, and a few randomly in between.

 

With all due respect Up is not Disney it is Pixar. They have entirely different storytelling styles. The last 4 Disney movies are quality movies and without the nostalgia goggles are comparable to anything from the 90s

Edited August 28, 2012 by brian577

[Trixies Apprentice L 493]

I will agree with some of those stuff but also disagree Disney is trying to go back to the good days. princess and the rog was a good step forward and tangled took it even firther. Brave was also pretty epic even for a movie without a proper villain the character and everything was amazingly done

 

So yes they have been screwing around at some point but they are trying to ge their facts straigt the only place they went completly downhil is animated series. They used to be awesome in that department with many series based on movies but they are good too live show lately and even then they used to make some good live show like zach and cody but now they are just stupid.

[Acoustic Cloud 2,202]

With all due respect Up is not Disney it is Pixar. They have entirely different storytelling styles. The last 4 Disney movies are quality movies and without the nostalgia goggles are comparable to anything from the 90s

 

You do realie it is disney right?

Disney Pixar animation...

yes some series did start off pretty good, classic, and all around funny, but over time they were dry and cliche

[Hushabye 47]

It's not that Disney films today aren't "good", it's just that most people are blinded by their own nostalgia. Just because a Disney movie isn't "Mulan" or "The Jungle Book" doesn't mean that it isn't good. What appealed to us as children is not what appeals to children today. However, I do think that Disney's decision to give up traditional animation was awful.

[brian577 120]

You do realie it is disney right?

Disney Pixar animation...

yes some series did start off pretty good, classic, and all around funny, but over time they were dry and cliche

 

Different animators, different writters, different studios. Just because Pixar is owned by Disney doesn't mean they have the same people or philosphies for movies. The only thing thing they have in common is John Lasseter who strongly believes in Disney traditions.

Edited August 28, 2012 by brian577

[moneyshredderofdeath 414]

The TV side of things hasn't produced a lot of good things lately but I've heard good things about Gravity Falls (probably helps that former FiM story editor Rob Renzetti is working on the show)

 

Since GF has been brought up I gotta say that I gave it a shot like a week ago after hearing about it quite a bit around the net. (kind of like how I got into MLP) It's quite a good show, with enjoyable characters and humor.

[Page Turner 607]

I, for one, think that Tangled, Wall-E, Up, and Toy Story 3 were absolutely amazing.

 

They were, but most of the movies you just mentioned are Pixar, which, while it is a part of disney as a company, is only marginally associated with Disney as a studio, Pixar has it's own facilities and production team, Disney just gives them money and says "do your thing." Same with Marvel.

 

as for tangled, that one is great because it feels like one of the old classic disney movies like Cinderella or Aladdin, just in 3D.

Edited August 28, 2012 by Page Turner

[Pachirisu 42]

I really think Disney has released some great movies in the past few years. The Princess and the Frog was really nice, Bolt was a lot of fun and Tangled is one of my favourite movies in recent memory.

 

Add in the stuff they didn't really make, but still had a hand in/stuck their name on (like the Pixar stuff, Muppets, Pirates, National Treasure, etc) and I'm still happy to call myself a Disney fan.

 

I do agree they should focus more on traditional animation though...compared to the 80/90s when Disney and Don Bluth were in competition (and we saw some beautiful films), there's really not much in the way of "proper" cartoon films anymore, which is a shame.

 

There is a lot of stuff on Disney Channel now that I really couldn't see myself ever enjoying though. Sonny With A Chance is really bad and the So Random spinoff is even worse. I really like similar shows on Nick (like Victorious, iCarly and Big Time Rush)...I just think Disney's shows are really tacky. Compared to when the Channel would be showing stuff like Darkwing Duck, Talespin and Goof Troop, it's kinda sad.

 

But still, some people somewhere must enjoy this stuff (otherwise Disney wouldn't keep making it)...as long as these movies/shows are giving people entertainment and happiness, I guess it's a good thing.

[Wubsie 1,123]

Have you guys even SEEN the stuff they've been putting out recently? There was that AMAZING Winnie The Pooh reboot, Tangled was pretty damn awesome, Bolt was quite good as well, and on top of that their TV cartoons are getting really good too. (Gravity Falls, Phineas and Ferb, Fish Hooks, Kick Buttowski, Motorcity, etc.)

 

I know you have your own opinion but this is mine.

I don't like fish hooks, I think it's garbage.

Motorcity is ok.

Kick Buttowski is a show that I thought would be decent, but it started to get boring.

Besides Disney changed when Hannah Montana was launched.

[silvadel 1,393]

Well -- the last of the animated movies for Disney was "Brother Bear." When that was done they fired a bunch of people. It is sad and the end of an era, but these things happen. As for the storylines, I think Disney has done some decent films like Enchanted and Wall-E, and even more recently Sorcerer's Apprentice, but yes as an overall product it is a lot more hit and miss than it once was. And yes Disney himself being out of the picture is a part of it (it is more about the $$$ today).

 

Of course their future releases look kind of dismal to me overall.

[bagelbass 29]

Not only Disney, but lots of other good ol' franchises have already lost a lot of fans during the last years. Pokémon is a great example.

 

It's sad but safe to say that creativity and originality of one is not infinite. Even if people get inspired by the work of anothers intending to continue a stable legacy, it will never be the same. Plus, sad truth is that society calls it "copy" instead of "inspiration".

 

That said though, I still like both Disney and Pixar movies (even though I still haven't watched the most recent ones), but that's just a matter of opinion.

 

I don't think Pokemon is a great example of this. People haven't been leaving the series because of lack of content, and if you ask anyone who has left the series, I'm positive they'll say that they are fine with the recent games, and they think they are great. They are leaving the series because they have lost interest in the series, and have since moved on. They couldn't keep up with all the new Pokemon and events like they could when they were children. Nostalgia and growing up are two of the reasons older players aren't fans of the series as a whole anymore.

 

If you asked these people when they had time if they would play the original Pokemon, or their remakes, they would probably say yes.

 

That wasn't a good example IMO.

 

Now, back on topic:

 

Disney hasn't been producing the same content over the years. They have realized they can make more money using a different approach, sadly.The audience Disney is aiming at want comedy, and that's what they are trying to give them, with very little movies that are like their old ones, unfortunately. They think that making rereleases make up for it =/. Not saying they are doing a good job, but Disney's focus will now be this.

 

Pixar is a different story though, as they produce their own stuff, and they can pull off what they do.

Edited August 28, 2012 by bagelbass

[Acoustic Cloud 2,202]

Different animators, different writters, different studios. Just because Pixar is owned by Disney doesn't mean they have the same people or philosphies for movies. The only thing thing they have in common is John Lasseter who strongly believes in Disney traditions.

 

um, and not every movie is john lasster, they have many many writers. LOL but whatever. You can have your opinion, pixar is disney that is all i am saying.

[brian577 120]

um, and not every movie is john lasster, they have many many writers. LOL but whatever. You can have your opinion, pixar is disney that is all i am saying.

 

John Lasseter has been the Executive Producer for every Disney animated movie since Meet the Robinsons and almost every Pixar movie since Toy Story 2.