Phoenix Flair 332 August 19, 2014 Share August 19, 2014 I don't see any proof that he is, but that could be a really freaking cool idea for a cannon fanfic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paradoxical 1,735 August 20, 2014 Share August 20, 2014 celestia ... told twilight that her banishing her own sister was just a myth. When did she say that? I thought she said that Twily had to make friends (and perhaps spike added the dusty book comment) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotoriousSMALL 1,984 August 20, 2014 Share August 20, 2014 When did she say that? I thought she said that Twily had to make friends (and perhaps spike added the dusty book comment) iirc she tells twilight not to worry about nightmare moon and that it was just a myth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paradoxical 1,735 August 20, 2014 Share August 20, 2014 iirc she tells twilight not to worry about nightmare moon and that it was just a myth. http://mlp.wikia.com/wiki/Transcripts/Friendship_is_Magic,_part_1 You can look for the quote, but I can't find where in that transcript have Celestia saying it's a myth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conred 274 August 20, 2014 Share August 20, 2014 Amy Keating Rogers said on her panel that Discord was conquering Equestria before Tirek and Scorpan came. So when Scorpan was befriending Starswirl, Discord was aready in stone and Tirek knew that day that he was imprisoned. Thus why he asked him "You are free?" in Twilights Kingdom. Starswirl theory at this point is totally destroyed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RainySkies 8 August 20, 2014 Share August 20, 2014 Amy Keating Rogers said on her panel that Discord was conquering Equestria before Tirek and Scorpan came. So when Scorpan was befriending Starswirl, Discord was aready in stone and Tirek knew that day that he was imprisoned. Thus why he asked him "You are free?" in Twilights Kingdom. Starswirl theory at this point is totally destroyed. Better not say that to fanfic writers. They'll cry if the find out their headcanon has been destroyed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotoriousSMALL 1,984 August 20, 2014 Share August 20, 2014 http://mlp.wikia.com/wiki/Transcripts/Friendship_is_Magic,_part_1 You can look for the quote, but I can't find where in that transcript have Celestia saying it's a myth. soz but I'm really not going to scan through an episodes transcript just to find a quote aint nobody got time for that 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RainySkies 8 August 20, 2014 Share August 20, 2014 soz but I'm really not going to scan through an episodes transcript just to find a quote aint nobody got time for that Cause it's not. I've seen the episode around 10 times and it is not in there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henny Penny Benny 936 August 20, 2014 Share August 20, 2014 I so desperately want this to be true!!! It makes a lot of sense (or at least it could make a lot of sense). And it'd be fun to see it happen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeric 46,852 August 20, 2014 Share August 20, 2014 Cause it's not. I've seen the episode around 10 times and it is not in there You are correct. However there is circumstantial evidence (supported by bad writing) that Celestia didn't let anyone know NMM was Luna so maybe that is where this is coming from. Shrugs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RainySkies 8 August 20, 2014 Share August 20, 2014 You are correct. However there is circumstantial evidence (supported by bad writing) that Celestia didn't let anyone know NMM was Luna so maybe that is where this is coming from. Shrugs I don't know about that. Maybe Celestia wasn't the one who told the ponies, but ponies still knew in Luna Eclipsed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeric 46,852 August 20, 2014 Share August 20, 2014 I don't know about that. Maybe Celestia wasn't the one who told the ponies, but ponies still knew in Luna Eclipsed. Everyone knew by season 2. Not what I meant. Twilight was shocked when Celestia said Luna was her sister in FIM pt 2. Enter the Myth theory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RainySkies 8 August 20, 2014 Share August 20, 2014 Everyone knew by season 2. Not what I meant. Twilight was shocked when Celestia said Luna was her sister in FIM pt 2. Enter the Myth theory. Yes, but that's not substantial evidence. Yeah sure you can make the argument that ponies just don't know, but hasn't the theory been destroyed since Twilights Kingdom? Starswirl was friends with Scorpan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeric 46,852 August 20, 2014 Share August 20, 2014 Yes, but that's not substantial evidence. Yeah sure you can make the argument that ponies just don't know, but hasn't the theory been destroyed since Twilights Kingdom? Starswirl was friends with Scorpan. Let me use my flux capacitor ... setting it for about one hour in the past. You are correct. However there is circumstantial evidence (supported by bad writing) that Celestia didn't let anyone know NMM was Luna so maybe that is where this is coming from. Shrugs As you should have inferred, I do not subscribe to this theory. I don't mandate others so as well, or visa versa. However the theory does exist and was communicated via YouTube. It stood to reason the the poster your originally disagreed with had heard this theory, but I did again give an uncertain disclosure with the user of the world, 'maybe'. Furthermore, I did specifically state that the evidence was circumstantial. We are talking about headcanon theories are we not? Isn't this the realm where Mother Fantasy and Father Wish Fulfillment rule the land and Logic and Preponderance of Evidence become the fool and the peasant to them? Blame the Brony Analysts that propagated that Myth Theory to the unsuspecting masses. But back to the topic at hand, Discord is Discord. Starswirl is Starswirl. Unique characters in in concept and in disposition. To combine them would have no net gain in story concepts, but eliminate a world of ideas from when we see him in the show proper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RainySkies 8 August 24, 2014 Share August 24, 2014 Let me use my flux capacitor ... setting it for about one hour in the past. As you should have inferred, I do not subscribe to this theory. I don't mandate others so as well, or visa versa. However the theory does exist and was communicated via YouTube. It stood to reason the the poster your originally disagreed with had heard this theory, but I did again give an uncertain disclosure with the user of the world, 'maybe'. Furthermore, I did specifically state that the evidence was circumstantial. We are talking about headcanon theories are we not? Isn't this the realm where Mother Fantasy and Father Wish Fulfillment rule the land and Logic and Preponderance of Evidence become the fool and the peasant to them? Blame the Brony Analysts that propagated that Myth Theory to the unsuspecting masses. But back to the topic at hand, Discord is Discord. Starswirl is Starswirl. Unique characters in in concept and in disposition. To combine them would have no net gain in story concepts, but eliminate a world of ideas from when we see him in the show proper. To be fair, I'm not really certain, either, though I lean towards negative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darker 1,351 August 30, 2014 Share August 30, 2014 Why would people believe that in the first place? Overlord of Darkness Signature made by: Astral Blitzen http://mlpforums.com/user/24786-astral-blitzen/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Invincible 2,091 August 30, 2014 Share August 30, 2014 It seems to me the royal sisters know of Starswirl from actually meeting him. But then, they speak with some contempt when they bring up Discord in conversation. I don't know, they seem to radiate the feeling that Discord and Starswirl is NOT one and the same. My OCs for Roleplay purposes: o Lit Fuse (http://mlpforums.com/page/roleplay-characters/_/lit-fuse-r6608) o Dust Devil (http://mlpforums.com/page/roleplay-characters/_/dust-devil-r7357) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conred 274 August 31, 2014 Share August 31, 2014 It seems to me the royal sisters know of Starswirl from actually meeting him. But then, they speak with some contempt when they bring up Discord in conversation. I don't know, they seem to radiate the feeling that Discord and Starswirl is NOT one and the same. I think if they knew he is Starswirl they would try to reform him earlier than after 1000 years. It seem that Celestia reformed Discord only becasue she knew that one day Elements may lose their magic or new Elements Bearers might not appear after mane6. So she wanted for Discord to behave on his own will. Beside AKR probably confirmed that Discord is not Starswirl since she said that Discord was stoned before Tirek and Scorpan came to Equestria in one of her panels. And Starswirl was already there befriending Scorpan (also Discords first friend is Fluttershy, not Scorpan) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RainySkies 8 September 1, 2014 Share September 1, 2014 I think if they knew he is Starswirl they would try to reform him earlier than after 1000 years. It seem that Celestia reformed Discord only becasue she knew that one day Elements may lose their magic or new Elements Bearers might not appear after mane6. So she wanted for Discord to behave on his own will. Beside AKR probably confirmed that Discord is not Starswirl since she said that Discord was stoned before Tirek and Scorpan came to Equestria in one of her panels. And Starswirl was already there befriending Scorpan (also Discords first friend is Fluttershy, not Scorpan) Really? I thought Meghan McCarthy said it. Oh well, still counts for the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malinter 3,064 September 1, 2014 Share September 1, 2014 If discord was starswirl, the necklace Tirek gave him would have had far more meaning than it already did, and he would have known even more so that Tirek was not to be trusted, 2 My OC's: Malinter, Rahl, Vengeful impact & alias-the-marked-one First fic i've written since forever here Skype: Malinter@Outlook.com "Defeating a sandwich only makes it tastier." most legendary quote ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fractured 2,684 October 13, 2014 Share October 13, 2014 Starswirl was actually around for Luna's banishment and a little after that point, and started the entire fiasco with cross dimensional mirrors. It had to have occurred after Discord's banishment, because the elements of harmony would've been broken at that point. Of course, there's also the fact that Discord didn't had never met Tirek, and that he didn't know about Scorpan's pendant, which he probably would've remembered since Starswirl was the pony that spent all of his time with him. Tirek was banished while Starswirl was still alive,which means the pendant had to have been given to him around that time. Starswirl would've noticed. 1 Produced by the phenomenal J.R. DT Fanclub here:https://mlpforums.com/topic/93212-diamond-tiara-fan-club/page-6 OC Fantasy: http://mlpforums.com/page/roleplay-characters/_/fantasy-r7486 OC Alice: http://mlpforums.com/page/roleplay-characters/_/alice-r8163 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two left hooves 36 November 23, 2015 Share November 23, 2015 (edited) Yes just yes Discord is Starswirl the Bearded! Well I have no proof of this. It is just my favorite headcanon, that I really want to be true. My theory is that Starswirl was celestia student A long time ago, much like twilight he was supposed to ascend into a alicorn, and help princess celestia rule over Equestria. But the problem was that to be able to become an alicorn, a pony is supposed to have complete mastery and understanding of there talent. Starswirl the Bearded talent was magic and the most powerful magic in MLP is the magic of friendship, but Starswirl was never very good at making friends and didn't find friendship too important, So he was never able to unlock his true abilities and become an alicorn. The spell in magical mystery cure was supposed to turn a pony into a alicorn but Starswirl could never figure it out and when he used it on himself it turned him into Discord. Celestia and Luna turned Discord into stone hoping that one day they can restore him, but they never could. So that is why they asked twilight And friends to reform him. Plus the interactions between twilight and Discord becomes so much more fun and interesting when you think Discord use to be Starswirl. Especially now when Discord is trying to teach Twilight lessons and things. So ya no proof i just think it would be cool. Edited November 23, 2015 by Two left hooves 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnknownFry 169 November 24, 2015 Share November 24, 2015 No. There are too many unexplained discrepancies between the two characters for them to be the same character/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chronamut 355 November 24, 2015 Share November 24, 2015 (edited) perhaps its a jekyll and hyde thing.. perhaps dischord is the chaos side of the ordered starswirl the bearded. Edited November 24, 2015 by Chronamut Click each below to see my work!Music | Art: | Spirituality | Chat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fluttershutter 2,491 November 25, 2015 Share November 25, 2015 Why would people believe that in the first place? A three year old hoax that just won't die: http://eqmegathreads.blogspot.com/2012/12/rumor-possible-discord-lines.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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