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Do you think violent games are linked to violent acts?  

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I recently got my copy of Timesplitters Future Perfect. That's why I've been gone for some time. Anyways, I was playing it and I noticed that the game is pretty violent. Not the most violent game out there, but still somewhat violent. And in the wake of the Sandy Hook shooting, games have been blamed for Lanza's act. Personally, I don't think games influence people's acts. If you have been paying attention, video games are always blamed in the wake of a shooting. Take for instance, Columbine. People blamed DOOM and DOOM II: Hell on Earth for their shooting. Now, as an avid gamer, games  haven't influenced me to do ANYTHING, Violent or not. I've read Eric Harris' journal and I have to say, none of his thoughts were influenced by DOOM. I'm gonna put up a transcript of his journal. All grammar and spelling errors are Harris'.


I hate the fucking world, to many god damn fuckers it in. to many
thoughts about societies all wrapped up together in this place called AMERICA.
everyone has their own god damn opinions on every damn thing and you
may be saying "well what makes you so different?". because I have
something only me and V have, SELF AWARENESS, Call it exortenstiolism or
whatever the fuck u want. we know what are to this world and what
everyone else is. we learn more than what caused the civil war and how
to simplify quadratics in school. we have been watching you people. we
know what you think and how you act, all talk and no actions. people who
are said to be brave or couragous are usually just STUPID then they say
later that they did it on purpose cause they are brave when they did on
fucking accident. GOD everything is so corrupt and so filled with
opinions little and points of view and peoples' own little agendas and
shedules. this isnt a world anymore, its H.O.E. and [no]one knows it.
self awareness is a wonderful thing. I know I will die soon, so will you
and everyone else. maybe will we be lucky and a comet will smash us
back to day 1. people say it is immoral to follow others, they say be a
leader. well here is a fuckin news flash for you stupid shits, everyone
is a follower! everyone who says they arent a follower and then dresses
diff. or acts diff. ... They got that from something they saw on TV or
in film or in life. no originality, how many JO MAMMA jokes are there
and how many do u think are original and not copied. KEINE. Its a
fucking filthy
place we live in. all these standards and laws and Great Expectations
(webb) are making people into robots even though they might "think" they
arent and try to deny it. no matter how hard they try to NOT copy
someone I still AM! except for this fucking piece of paper right here,
and B.T.W spelling is stupid unless I say. I say spell it how it sounds,
it's the fuckin easiest way. hey try this sometime, when someone tells
you something, ask "why?" eventually they will be stumped and cant
answer anymore. thats because they only know what they need to know in
society and school, not real life science. they will end up saying words
to this "because! Just shut up!" people that only know stupid facts
that arent important should be shot, what fucking use are they. NATURAL
SELECTION. KILL all retards, people w/ brain fuck ups, drug adics,
people cant figure out to use a fucking lighter. GEEEAWD! people spend
millions of dollars on saving the lives of retards, and why. I don't buy
that shit like "oh hes my son though!" so the fuck what, he aint
normal, kill him, put him out his misery. he is only a waste of time and
money, then people say "But he is worth the time, he is human too" no
he isnt, if he was then he would swalow a bullet cause he would realize
what a fucking waste and burden he was. -- 4/10/98




as I said before, self awareness is a wonderful thing. I know what all
you fuckers are thinking and what to do to piss you off and make you
feel bad. I always try to be different, but I always end up copying
someone else. I try to be a mixture of different things and styles but
when I step
out of myself I end up looking like others or others THINK I am
copying. One big fucking problem Is people telling me what to fuckin do,
think, say, act, and everything else. Ill do what you say IF I feel
like it. But people (I.E. parents, cops, God, teachers) telling me what
to [arrow points to do, think, say, act, and everything else] just makes
me not want to fucking do it! thats why my fucking name is REB!!! no
one is worthy of shit unless I say they are, I feel like GOD and I wish I
was, having everyone being OFFICIALLY lower than me. I already know
that I am higher than almost anymore in the fucking welt in terms of
universal Intelligence and where we stand in the universe compared to
the rest of the UNIV. and if you think I dont know what Im talking about
then you can just "ßUCK DICH" and saugen mein Hund! Isnt america
supposed to be the land of the free? how come, If im free, I cant
deprive a stupid fucking dumbshit from his possessions If he leaves then
sitting in the front seat of his fucking van out in plain sight and in
the middle fucking nowhere on a Fri fucking day night. NATURAL
SELECTION. fucker should be shot. same thing with all those rich snotty
toadies at my school. fuckers think they are higher than me and everyone
else with all their $ just because they were born into it? Ich denk
NEIN. BTW, "sorry" is just a word. it doesnt mean SHIT to me. everyone
should be put to a test. an ULTIMATE DOOM test, see who can survive in
an environtment using only smarts and military skills. put them in a
doom world. no authority, no refuge, no BS copout excuses. If you cant
figure out the area of a triangle or what "cation" means, you die! if
you cant take down a demon w/ a chainsaw or kill a hell prince w/ a
shotgun, you die! fucking snotty rich fuckheads [Censored by J.C.Sheriff
Office] who rely on others or on sympathy or $ to get them through life
should be put to this challenge. plus it would get rid of all the fat,
retarded, crippled, stupid, dumb, ignorant, worthless people of this
world. no one is worthy of this planet only me and who ever I choose.
there is just no respect for anything higher than your fucking boss or
parent. everyone should be shot out into space and only the people I saw
should be left behind. 4/12/98




ever wonder why we go to school? besides getting a so called education.
its not to obvious to most of you stupid fucks but for these who think a
little more and deeper you should realize it. its societies way of
turning all the young people into good little robots and factory workers
thats why we sit in desks in rows and go by bell schedules, to get
prepared for the real world cause "thats what its like". well god damit
no it isnt! one thing that seperates us from other animals is the fact
that we can carry on actual thoughts. so why don't we? people go on day
by day. rutine shit. why cant we learn in school how we want to. why
cant we sit on desks and on shelves and put our feet up and relax while
we learn? cause thats not what the "real world is like" well hey
fuckheads, there is no such thing as an actual "real world". its just
another word like justice, sorry, pity, religion, faith, luck and so on.
we are humans. if we dont like something we have the fucking ability to
change! but we dont, atleast U dont. I would. U just whine/bitch
thoughtout life but never do a goddamn thing to change anything. "man
can eat, drink, fuck, and hunt and anything else he does is madness" -
Based on Lem's quote. boy oh fuckin boy is that true. when I go NBK, and
people say things like, "oh it was so tragic," or "oh he is crazy!" or
"It was bloody!" I think, so the fuck what, you think thats a bad thing?
just because your mommy and daddy told you blood and violence is bad,
you think its a fucking law of nature? wrong, only science and math are
true, everything, and I mean everyfuckingthing else is man made. my
doctor wants to put me on medication to stop thinking about so many
things and to stop getting angry. well, I think that anyone doesnt like
me is just bullshitting themselves. try it sometime if you think you
are worthy, which you probly will you little shits, drop all your
beliefs and views and ideas that have been burned into your head and try
to think about why your here.
but I bet most of you fuckers cant
even think that deep, so that is why you must die. how dare you think
that I and you are part of the same species when we are sooooooo
different. you arent human you are a Robot. you dont take advantage of
your capabilites given to you at birth. you just drop them and hop onto
the boat and headdown the stream of life with all the other fuckers of
your type. well god damit I wont be a part of it! I have thought to
much, realized to much, found out to much, and I am to self aware to
just stop what I am thinking and go back to society because what I do
and think isnt "right" or "morally accepted" NO, NO, NO GOD FUCKING
DAMIT NO!I will sooner die than betray my own thoughts. but before I
leave this worthless place, I will kill who ever I deam unfit for
anything at all. especially life. and i fyou pissed me off in the past,
you will die if I see you. because you might be able to piss off others
and have it eventually all blow over, but not me. I dont forget people
who wronged me. like [Censored by J.C. Sheriff Office] he will never get
a chance to read this because he will be dead by me before this is
discovered -- 4/21/98


The human race sucks. human nature is
smuthered out by society, jobs, and work and school. instincts are
deleted by laws. I see people say things that contradict themselves, or
people that dont take any advantage to the gift of human life. they
waste their minds on memorizing the stats of every college basketball
player or how many words should be an a report when they should be using
their brain on more important things. the human race isnt worth
fighting for anymore. WWII was the last war worth fighting and was the
last time human life and human brains did any good any made us proud.
now, with the government having scandals and conspiracies all over the
fucking place and lying to everyone all the time and with worthless
pointless mindless discraceful TV shows on (scratched out) and with
everyone ub-fucking-sessed with hollywood and beauty and fame and
glamour and politics and anything famous, people just arent worth
saving. Society may not realize what is happening but I have; you go to
school, to get used to studying and learning how youre "supposed to" so
that drains or filters out a little bit of human nature. but thats after
your parents taught you whats right and wrong even though you may think
differently, you still must to have more of your human nature blown out
of your ass. society trys to make everyone act the same by burying all
human nature and instincts. Thats what school, laws, jobs, and parents
do If they realize it or not and them, the few who stick to their
natural instincts are casted out as psychos or lunatics or strangers or
just plain different. crazy, strange, weird, wild, these words are not
bad or degrading.. if humans were let to live how we would naturaly it
would be chaos and anarchy and the human race wouldnt probably last that
long, but hey guess what, thats how its supposed to be!!!!! society and
goverments are only created to have order and calmness, which is
exactly the opposite of pure human nature. take away all your laws and
morals and just see what you can do. if the goverment was one entity it
would be thinking "hey, lets make some order here and calm these crazy
fucks down so we can be constructive and fight other goverments in our
own little so called self created "civilizied world" and get rid of all
those damn insticts everyone has" well shit I'm to tired wright anymor
tonight, so until next time, fuck you all -- 5/6/98




It has been confirmed, after getting my yearboook and watching people
like [censored] and [censored] the human race isn't worth fighting for,
only worth killing. give the Earth back to the animals, they deserve it
infinitely more than we do. nothing means anything more, most quotes are
worthless, especially the rearranged ones like "dont fight your enemies, make your enemies fight"
you know, quotes that use the same phrase just rearranged, Dumbfuck
shit [illegible] wear. its funny, people say "you shouldn't be so
different." to me, and 1st I say fuck you dont tell me what I should and
shouldn't be and 2ND mother fuckers different is good, I dont want to
be like you or anyone which is almost impossible this day w/ all the
little shits trying to be "original-copycats", I expect shits like you
to criticize anyone who isnt one of your social words; "normal" or
"civilized" - see tempest and Caliban. allyou degrading worthless
shits. all caught up and brainwashed into the 90's society. "what? you
AREN'T going to college, are you are crazy!" holy SHIT that is one
fucking BIG Quote that just proves my point. step back and look at
yourself fuckers, I dare you, maybe I'll get lucky and you'll step back
to far like Nick in Elm3. w/ the same concequence. -- 5/9/98



wooh, different pen. HA! alright you pathetic fools listen up; I have
figured it out. the human race strives for exellence in life and
community always wanting to bring more =good= into the comm. and nulify
=bad= things. anyone who thinks differently than the majority or the
leaders is deamed "unusual" or weird or crazy. people want to be a part
of something; a family, a service, a club, a union, a community,
whatever. thats what humans want. who cares waht you as an individual
thinks, you must do what you are told, whether it is jump of a bridge or
drive on the right side of the road. protesters in the past protested
because the human race that was dominant (Ghandi and the Brits or the
king and the americans) wasnt working out = they had fault = they failed
= their ideas didnt work. humans dont change that much, they only get
better technology to do their work quicker/easier. people always say we
shouldnt be racist. why not? Blacks ARE different, like it or not they
are. they started on the bottom so why not keep em there. it took the
centuries to convince us that they are equal but they still use their
color as an excuse or they just discriminate us because we are white.
Fuck you, we should ship yer black asses back to Afri-fucking-ca were
you came from. we brought you here and we will take you back.
America=White. Gays....well all gays, ALL gays, should be killed. mit
keine fragen. lesbians are fun to watch if they are hot but still, its
not human. its a fucking disease. you dont see bulls or roosters trying
to fuck do you? no, I didn't think so. women you will always be under
men. its been seen throughout nature, males are almost always doing the
dangerous shit while the women stay back. its your animal instincts,
deal with it or commit suicide, just do it quick. thats all for now. --
5/20/98




If you recall your history the Nazis came up with a "final solution" to
the Jewish problem... kill them all. well incase you havent figured it
out yet, I say, "K I L L M A N K I N D" no one should
survive. we all live in lies. people are saying they want to live in a
perfect society, well utopia doesnt exist. It is human to have flaws.
you know what, Fuck it. why should I have to explain myself to you
survivors when half of the shit I say you shitheads wont understand and
if you can then woopie fucking do. that just means you have something to
say as my reason for killing. and the majority of the audience wont
even understand my motives either! they'll say "ah, hes crazy, hes
insane, oh well, I wonder if the bulls won." you see! it's fucking
worthless! all you fuckers should die! DIE! what the fuck is the point
if onlu some people see what I am saying, there will always be ones who
dont, ones that are to dumb or naive or ignorrant or just plain
retarded. If I cant pound it into every single persons head then it is
pointless. fuck mercy fuck justic fuck morals fuck civilized fuck rules
fuck laws... DIE manmade words...people think they apply to everything
when they dont/cant. theres no such thing as True Good or True Evil, its
all relative to the observer. its just all nature, chemistry, and math.
deal with it. but since dealing with it seems impossible for mankind,
since we have to slap warning labels on nature, then... you die. burn,
melt, evaporate, decay, just go the fuck away!!!! YAAAAAH!!!! - 6/12/98-

KEIN MITLEID

"when in doubt, confuse the hell out the enemy" - Fly 9/2/98

wait mercy doesnt exist....



heres something to chew on....: today I saw a program on the
discovery channel about satelites and radar and aircraft and stuff, and
at the end of the show the narrator said some things that made me think
"damn, we are so advanced, we kick ass, america is awesome, we have so
many things in our military, we would kick anyones ass." for a minute I
actually had some pride in our nation.... then I realized, "hey, this
only the Good things that I am seeing here. only the Pros, not
the cons. maybe thats what people see, only the Pros, and thats why they
are under control. but me, I see all... you can only blind me for so
long. but alas, I have realized that Yes, the human race is still indeed
doomed. It just needs a few kick starts, like me, and hell, maybe even
[censored]. If can whipe a few cities off the map, and even the fuckhead
Holding the map, then great. hmm, just thinking if I want ALL humans
dead or maybe just the quote-unquote "civilized, developed, and
known-of" places on Earth. maybe leave little tribes of natives in the
rain forest er something. hmm, I'll think about that. eh. done for
tonight -REB- 6/13/98




As part of the human race, and having the great pleasure of being
blessed with a brain, I can think. Humans can do whatever they want.
There are no laws of nature that prevent humans from making choices.
maybe from actually DOING some of those choices, but not from making the
choice. If a man choosses to speed while driving home one day, then it
is his fault for whatever happens. If he crashes into a school bus full
of kidies and they all burn to death, its his fault. Its only a tragedy
if you think it is, and then its only a tragedy in your own mind. so you
shouldn't expect others to think that way also. it could also be a
miracle for another person. maybe the bus stopped the car from plowing
into a little old lady walking on the sidewalk. one could think it was a
"miracle" that she wasnt hit. you see, anything and everything that
happens in our world is just that, a HAPPENING. anything else is
relative to the observer, but yet we try to have a "universal law" or
"code" of what is good and bad and that just isnt fucking correct. we
shouldn't be allowed to do that. we arent GODS. just because we are at
the top of the food chain with our technology doesnt mean we can be
"judges" of nature. sure we can think what we can think what we want,
but you can "think" and "believe" you can judge people and nature all
you want, but you are still wrong! why should your morals apply to
everyone else. "morale" is just another word. and thats it. I think we
are all a waste of natural resources and should be killed off, and since
humans have the ability to choose... and I'm human... I think I will
choose to kill and damage as much as nature allows me to so take that.
fuck you, and eat napalm + lead! HA! only Nature can stop me. I know I
could get shot by a cop after only killing a single person, but hey
guess the fuck WHAT! I chose to kill that one person so get over it! Its
MY fault! not my parents, not my brothers, not my friends, not my
favorite bands, not computer games, not the media. IT is MINE! go shut
the fuck up!
                
-REB- 7/29/98



someones bound to say "what were they thinking?" when we go NBK or
when we were planning it, so this what I am thinking. "I have a goal to
destroy as much as possible so I must not be sidetracked by my feelings
of sympathy, mercy, or any of that, so I will force myself to believe
that everyone is just another monster from Doom like FH or FS or demons,
so It's either me or them. I have to turn off my feelings." keep this
is mind, I want to burn the world, I want to kill everyone except about 5
people, who I will name later, so If you are reading this you are lucky
you escaped my rampage because I wanted to kill you. It will be very
tricky getting all of our supplies, explosives, weaponry, ammo, and then
hiding it all and then actually planting it all so we can achieve our
goal. but if we get busted any time, we start killing then and there,
just like Wilks from the AlIENS books, I aint going out without a fight.


        Once I finally start my killing, keep this in mind, there are probably
about 100 people max in the school alone who I dont want to die, the
rest, MUST FUCKING DIE! If I didnt like you or if you pissed me off and
lived through my attacks, consider yourself one lucky god damn [racism 1].
Pity that a lot of the dead will be a waste in someways, like dead hot
chicks who were still bitches, they could have been good fucks. oh well,
too fucking bad. life isnt fair... not by a long fuckin shot when Im at
the wheel, too. God I want to torch and level everything in this whole
fucking area but Bombs of that size are hard to make, and plus I would
need a fuckin fully loaded A-10 to get every store on wadsworth and all
the buildings downtown. heh, Imagine THAT ya fuckers, picture half of
denver on fire just from me and Vodka. napalm on sides of skyscrapers
and car garages blowing up from exploded gas tanks.... oh man that would
be beautiful. -- 10/23/98


you know what, I feel like
telling about lies. I lie a lot. almost constant. and to everybody, just
to keep my own ass out of the water. and by the way (side note) I dont
think I am doing this for attention, as some people may think. lets see,
what are some big lies I have told; "yeah I stopped smoking," "for
doing it not for getting caught," "no I'm havent been making more
bombs," "no I wouldn't do that," and of course, countless of other ones,
and yeah I know that I hate liers and I am one myself, oh fucking well.
Its ok If I am a hypocrite, but no one else. because I am higher then
you people, no matter what you say if you disagree I would shoot you And
I am one racist mother fucker too, fuck the niggers and spics and
chinks, unless they are cool, but sometimes they are so fucking retarded
they deserve to be ripped on. some people go through life begging to be
shot. and white fucks are just the same. if I could nuke the world I
would, because so far I hate you all. there are probly around 10 people I
wouldnt want to die, but hey, who ever said life is fair should be shot
like the others too. - 11/1/98




heh heh heh. I sure had fun this weekend. lets see, what really
happened. before going to the Rock n Bowl we stopped by King Soopers and
one and [censored] picked up some big ass stoges. we then went to the
Rock n Bowl and I had a few cigarettes and one of brand new cigars. we
then went back to [censored] house where her mom had previousely bought
us all a fuck load of liquor. personally I had asked for Tequilla and
Irish cream, Vodka got his vodka, and there was beer, whiskey, schnopps,
puckers, scotch and of course, orange juice! so we had some fun there
playing cards and making drinks. we eventually made it to bed at about
5AM. got up at 10, went to safeway got some donouts and then I took
Vodka home. the bottle of Tequilla is almost full and is in car, right
by my spare tire and right by the bottle of irish cream. heh heh. I'll
have to find a spot for those. and by the way, this nazi report is
boosting my love of killing even more. like the early Nazi government,
my brain is like a sponge, sucking up everything that sounds cool and
leaving out all that is worthless, thats how Nazism was formed and thats
how I will be too!
        11/8/98




Fuck you Brady! all I want is a couple of guns, and thanks to your
fucking bill I will probably not get any! come on, I'll have a clean
record and I only want for personal protection. Its not like I'm some
person who would go on a shooting spree.... fuckers. Ill probably end up
nuking everything and fucking robbing some gun collectors house. Fuck,
thatll be be hard. oh well, just as long as I kill a lot of fucking
people. Everyone is always making fun of me because of how I look, how
fucking weak I am and shit, well I will get you all back: ultimate
fucking revenge here. you people could have shown more respect, treated
me better, asked for my knowledge or guidence more, treated me more like
senior, and maybe I wouldn't have been as ready to tear your fucking
heads off. then again, I have always hated how I looked, I make fun of
people who look like me, sometimes without even thinking sometimes just
because I want to rip on myself. Thats where a lot of my hate grows
from, the fact that I have practically no selfesteem, especially
concerning girls and looks and such. therefore people make fun of me...
constantly... therefore I get no respect and therefore I get fucking
PISSED. as of this date I have enough explosives to kill about 100
people, and then if I get a couple bayonetts, swords, axes, whatever
I'll be able to kill at least 10 more. and that just isnt enough! GUNS! I
need guns! Give me some fucking firearms!

                    11/12/98




HATE! I'm full of hate and I Love it. I HATE PEOPLE and they better
fucking fear me if they know whats good for em. yes I hate and I guess I
want others to know it, yes I'm racist and I don't mind. Niggs and
spics bring it on themselves, and another thing, I am very racist
towards white trash p.o.s.s like [censored] and [censored] they deserve
the hatred, otherwise I probly wouldnt hate them. Its a tragedy, the
human nature of people will lead to their downfall. Peoples human nature
will get them killed. whether by me or Vodka, Its happened before, and
not just in school shootings like those pussy dumbasses over in
Minnesota who squeeled. throughtout history, Its our fucking nature! I
know how people are and why and I cant stand it! I love the nazis too...
by the way, I fucking cant get enough of the swastika, the SS, and the
iron cross. Hitler and his head boys fucked up a few times and it cost
them the war, but I love their beliefs and who they were, what they did,
and what they wanted. I know that form of gov couldn't have lasted long
once the human equation was brought in, but damnit it sure looked good.
every form of gov leads to downfalls, everything will always fuck up or
yeah something. its all DOOMed god damnit. this is beginning to make me
get in a corner. I'm showing too much of myself, my views and thoughts,
people might start to wonder, smart ones will get nosey and something
might happen to fuck me over, I might need to put on one helluva mask
here to fool you all some more. fuck fuck fuck it'll be very fucking
hard to hold out until April. If people would give me more compliments
all of this might still be avoidable... but probably not. Whatever I do
people make fun of me, and sometimes directly to my face. I'll get
revenge soon enough. fuckers shouldn't have ripped on me so much huh!
HA! then again its human nature to do what you did... so I guess I am
also attacking the human race. I cant take it, Its not right... true...
correct... perfect. I fucking hate the human equation. Nazism would be
fucking great if it werent for individualism and our natural instinct to
ask questions. you know what maybe I just need to get laid. maybe
that'll just change some shit around. thats another thing, I am a
fucking dog. I have fantasies of just taking someone and fucking them
hard and strong. someone like [censored] were I just pick her up, take
her to my room, tear off her shirt and pants and just eat her out and
fuck her hard. I love flesh... weisses fleisch! dein weisses fleisch
emegt mich soo... Ich bin dech nur ein gigilo! I want to grab a few
different girls in my gym class, take them into a room, pull their pants
off and fuck them hard. I love flesh... the smooth legs, the large
breasts, the innocent flawless body, the eyes, the hair; jet black,
blond, white, brown. ahhh I just want to fuck! call it teenage hormones
or call it a crazy fuckin racist rapist... BJ ist mir egal. I just want
to be surrounded by the flesh of a woman, someone like [censored] who I
wanted to just fuck like hell, she made me practically drool, when she
wore those shorts to work.. instant hard on. I couldnt stop staring. and
others like [censored] in my gym class, [censored] or whatever in my
gym class, and others who I just want to overpower and engulf myself in
them. mmmm I can taste the sweet flesh now... the salty sweat, the
animalistic movement... Iccchhh... lieeebe...... fleisccchhhh. who can I
trick into my room first? I can sweep someone off their feet, tell them
what they want to hear, be all nice and sweet, and then "fuck em like
an animal, feel them from the inside" as Reznor said. oh... thats
something else... that one NIN video I saw, broken or closer or
something, the where the guy is kidnapped and tortured like hell...
actual hell. I want to do that too. I want to tear a throat out with my
own teeth like a pop can. I want to gut someone with my hand, to tear a
head off and rip out the heart and lungs from the neck, to stab someone
in the gut, shove it up to the heart, and yank the fucking blade out of
their rib cage! I want to grab some weak little freshman and just tear
them apart like a fucking wolf. show them who is god. strangle them,
squish their head, bite their temples into the skull, rip off their jaw.
rip off their colar bones, break their arms in half and twist them
around, the lovely sounds of bones cracking and flesh ripping, ahh... so
much to do and so little chances. -- 11/17/98


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Well folks, today was a very important day in the history of R. Today
along with Vodka and someone else who I wont name, we went downtown and
purchased the following; a double barrel 12ga. shotgun, a pump action
12ga. shotgun, a 9mm carbine, 250 9mm rounds, 15 12ga slugs, 40 shotgun
shells, 2 switch blade knives, and total of 4 - 10 round clips for the
carbine. we....... have.... GUNS! we fucking got em you sons of bitches!
HA! HAHAHA! neener! Booga Booga. heh. its all over now. this capped it
off, the point of no return. I have my carbine, shotgun, ammo and knife
all in my trunk tonight and theyll there till tomorrow... after school
you know its really a shame. I had a lot of fun at that gun show, I
would have loved it if you were there dad. we would done some major
bonding. would have been great. oh well. but, alas, I fucked up and told
[censored] about my "flask". that really disappoints me. [censored] I
know you thought it was good for me... in the long run and all that
shit, smart of you to give me a such big raise and then rat me out, you
figure it was supposed to cancel each other? god damn flask, that just
fucked me over big time. now you all will be on my ass even more than
before about being on track. I'll get around it though, If have to cheat
and lie to everyone then thats fine. THIS is what I am motivated for,
THIS is my goal. THIS is what I want to do with my life! you know whats
weird, I dont feel like a punching through a door because of the flask
deal, probly cause I am fucking armed now. I feel more confident,
stronger, and more Godlike. I have confidence in my ability to
dese(cei)ve people. hopefully Ill make it to April, but that might not
happen. Ug, Its been a busy weekend, I need to sleep, I'll continue
tomorrow.
                    11/22/98




yesterday we fired our first actual firearms ever. 3 rounds from the
carbine. taught that ground a thing or 2. I even had the 2 clips in my
pocket while talking to vodkas dad about senior ditch day. God it felt
great firing off that bad boy, and hopefully I'll be able to get more
than just 4 clips for it. I dubbed my shotgun "Arlene" after Arlene
Sanders from the DOOM books. She always did love the shotgun. Vodka's DB
is looking very fucking awesome, all cut down to the proper lengths.
this is a bitch trying to keep up on homework while working on my guns,
bombs, and lying. by the way, I bought that flask in the mall and I had a
friend fill it up w/ scotch whiskey, only had about 3 swigs in the 3
weeks I had it. plus monday I gave my T and IC to Vodka, just in case. I
never really did like alcohol, just wasn't my thing, but It felt good
to just have around. that argument on the 22nd was a real bitch, but I
think I should have won a fucking oscar. I even quoted a few movies,
remember "what the hell am I gonna do now man?! what am I gonna do!?"
thats good ole Hudson from aliens. Sounded good too. and hey goddamnit I
would have been a fucking great marine, It would have given me a reason
to do good. and I would never drink and drive, either. It will be weird
when we actually go on the rampage. hopefully we will have plenty of
clips and bombs. Im gonna still try and get my calico 9mm. just think,
100 rounds without reloading.... hell yeah!

We actually may have
a chance to get some machine pistols thanks to the Brady bill. If we
can save up about 200$ real quick and find someone who is 21+ we can go
to the next gun show and find a private dealer and buy ourselves some
bad-ass AB-10 machine pistols. Clips for those things can get really
fucking big too.

        12/3/98




Woohoo, I'll never have to take a final again! feels good to be free. I
just love Hobbes and Nietzche. Well tomorrow I'll be ordering 9 more 10
round clips for my carbine. I'm gonna be so fucking loaded in about a
month. the big things we need to figure now is the time bombs for the
commons and how we will get them in and leave then there to go off,
without any fucking Jews finding them. I wonder if anyone will write a
book on me. sure is a ton of symbolism, double meanings, themes,
appearance vs reality shit going on here. oh well, it better be fuckin
good if it is writtin.

        12/17/98




heh, get this. KMFDM's new album is entitled "Adios" and it's
release date is in April. how fuckin appropriate, a subliminal final
"Adios" tribute to Reb and Vodka. thanks KMFDM... I ripped the hell outa
the system
                                12/20/98




jesus christ that was fucking close.
fucking shitheads at the gun shop almost dropped the whole project. oh
well, thank god I can BS so fucking well. I went and picked up those
babies today, so now I got 13 of those niggers. WOOHAH. the stereo is
very nice, but having no insurance payments to worry about so I could
concentrate of BOMBS would have been better. oh well, I think I'll have
enough. now I just need to get Vodka another gun.
                            12/29/98




Months have passed. Its the first Friday night in the final month.
much shit has happened. Vodka has a Tec 9, we test fired all of our
babies, we have 6 time clocks ready, 39 crickets, 24 pipe bombs, and the
napalm is under construction. Right now I'm trying to get fucked and
trying to finish off these time bombs. NBK came quick. why the fuck cant
I get any? I mean, I'm nice and considerate and all that shit, but
nooooo. I think I try to hard. but I kinda need to considering NBK is
closing in. The amount of dramatic irony and foreshadowing is fucking
amazing. Everything I see and I hear I incorporate into NBK somehow.
Either bombs, clocks, guns, napalm, killing people, any and everything
finds some tie to it. feels like a Goddamn movie sometimes. I wanna try
to put some mines and trip bombs around this town too maybe. Get a few
extra flags on the scoreboard. I hate you people for leaving me out of
so many fun things. And no don't fucking say, "well thats your fault"
because it isnt, you people had my phone #, and I asked and all, but no.
no no no dont let the weird looking Eric KID come along, ohh fucking
nooo.


Now, you tell me if DOOM influenced him. He supported Nazism, his idea of natural selection was fucked up and he was constantly bullied and excluded at school. In fact, the media tryed to pin the blame on movies such as the matrix and even tryed to blame marliyn manson. (Even though Harris and Klebold didn't like manson) Any time a mass shooting occurs, they blame games. Maybe because they think they're "killing simulators". Also, the shooters had psychological problems. Harris was on Zoloft and had a superiority disorder. Klebold had suicidal thoughts and repressed rage. Those two made one hell of a team. One last point, is school, they never teach you to defend yourself or anything like that. Therefore, the jocks will fuck with you past breaking point. (Which lead me to try to commit suicide) In conclusion, I don't think games rae linked to violent acts. What are your thoughts?

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My views on this situation were perfectly summed up by one picture I saw on Facebook - it says a lot in itself:

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I honestly don't think whether they played any games or not would have led them to mass shootings. Charles Whitman never played any video games, for example. Anders Behring Breivik is the only shooter I can think of who played violent games and coincidentally shot loads of people.

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I can say it certainly doesn't help. I'm sure there are tons of people who can restrain themselves, but prefer not to. It's always about who someone is raise when they are in their critical learning age. [5-6 years old] Other then that, the types of games one plays shouldn't do too much of a change. It's all based on one's maturity in my opinion.

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No

 

-Freedom of speech

 

-Freedom of thought

 

-Democracy

 

-Lack of media and internet censorship of political ideas

 

those are the real causes

 

Effective police states tend to drastically reduce crime and violence regardless of the cultures, religions and ethnicities taht inhabit the country.

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It's more of if the gamer is capable of handling a pretend killing game. I heard that Adolf Hitler liked eating popcorn, but does that mean that all the people in the world who like popcorn are murderers? No. Video games are just the first thing to think of when most people hear about something violent happening. If someone tries explaining the real reason for violence, the audience gets bored and walks away from making sense. 


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No. No. No. A thousand times forever into infinity, no, videogames do NOT cause violent acts in society.

 

This is something that worries me TREMENDOUSLY about society. People are desperate to find a reason behind pointless acts of violence (such as the example you gave of the Columbine shootings). I can appreciate that they want something to blame and something to fix, but video games do not teach people how to kill. At worst, they desensitize people to violence. At best, they are an outlet for negative energy. Shoot the nonexistent people on the screen, not the people mistreating you at school, home, or at work.

 

The US Army uses videogames to recruit people, sure, I'll buy that. It makes killing people for the army seem fun and exciting. The US Army is legally allowed to fund games to inspire people to join the army, so why are video games still legal if they inspire killing? Oh, right, because the killing aspect isn't the part that people are influenced by.

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No. These tend to be just coincidences. And of course people  don't want to take some kind of responsibility for what went wrong with their children and pick an easy target to blame. It's much easier to just point fingers after all. Most people who play games can differentiate between fiction and reality. 

 

I can say it certainly doesn't help. I'm sure there are tons of people who can restrain themselves, but prefer not to. It's always about who someone is raise when they are in their critical learning age. [5-6 years old] Other then that, the types of games one plays shouldn't do too much of a change. It's all based on one's maturity in my opinion.

 

Yeah people are certainly more influential at that age. I think there were some studies that suggested something about making kids more aggressive but I don't really remember that well. Just for the record though, I was playing Mortal Kombat at that age and I don't recall ever wanting to perform fatalities on people.

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I don't believe video games are linked to violent acts, violence has happened for much of humanity long before even the first video game was even thought of. Millions of people play Call of Duty, Halo, etc every single day. i don't hear of millions of violent shootings everyday, its only these few cases that the media keeps talking about to make it sound like it happens more often then it actually does. There are some studies that are suggesting that we may even be becoming less violent as a species, some link a decline since games like Halo and Call of Duty were released. I am not saying video games can never have an affect on behavior of course, children that like to imitate things can get bad ideas, however that it what some of the ratings are for in order to expect a certain level of maturity for playing a certain title. Of course ratings don't stop children from playing these games, this is something the parents need to pay attention to. Parents should be careful of what influences are in their home and what media they allow their children to participate in. Throwing blame at video games is not the answer, it wasn't for movies and books either. There is not enough support showing that video games alone cause violence and thus i believe there is no link.

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I believe TotalHalibut explains this entire situation perfectly. Lets watch this masterpiece, shall we?

http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=5uwAo8lcAC4

Anywho, in no way whatsoever are video games linked to violence. And the media is blaming them for a variety of reasons. Ratings, a scapegoat, to take down competition, anything really.

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No. Most people who play violent games are kids under 17. Kids aren't THAT stupid. Just because they see killing in a video game, doesn't mean they'll actually go out and do it in real life.


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Its all on how the person was raised and the environment they grew up in. Video games don't really cause that stuff at all. Yes we rage at the television and in the pre-game lobbies we act vile but its not like we will actually go and hunt them down in real life and kill them or do anything similar to the past events that happened recently.


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I heard that Adolf Hitler liked eating popcorn, but does that mean that all the people in the world who like popcorn are murderers?

 

Hitler didn't murder people, he had them executed. There's a big difference. Not that it was any better, mind you, but still. Technically not a murderer.

 

Oh, and as far as video games go, it's kind of a hard question to answer. In short, I think they could only influence someone in that way if they were already unstable.

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I believe TotalHalibut explains this entire situation perfectly. Lets watch this masterpiece, shall we?

http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=5uwAo8lcAC4

Anywho, in no way whatsoever are video games linked to violence. And the media is blaming them for a variety of reasons. Ratings, a scapegoat, to take down competition, anything really.

 

I was literally about to post that myself! I've mentioned it before in another thread about this topic and that video is a great explanation as to why video games do not cause real life violence.

 

To keep it short, I highly doubt you'll find anybody on here who believes that games cause violence, your poll will most likely be 100% on "no" forever.


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I feel like it can be, if you play FPS's at a young age. If you're 6, and you're playing Black Ops (Just as an example), you're probably going to be more violent. But if you're 17, the age recommended to play violent video games at, you probably aren't going to do anything. The rating system was made for a reason. I honestly think the reason violent video games were made is to prevent people from actually doing these things in real life; to let their anger out, if that makes sense. I think if you're mature enough to handle the games, you won't do anything violent in real life.

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No, to be honest it is my personal belief that violence is just human nature and people will use anything they can to justify a violent act on someone else, or have someone correlate it with violence for sake of insecurity, power abuse, ect.

 

Oh and the Jimquisition summed it up perfectly with a video appropriately called "Desensitized To Violence", however, if you want to see the video then be warned that there is a very disturbing clip in it (which he uses as both a test and proof in his video). I will not link it here for sake of the rules, but I would recommend seeing it on your own time if you want to, the video does give you adequate warnings as to when it appears and what is in it, there are even times listed in the description if you want to skip it. Either way he makes a powerful point.

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That's just cultural control propaganda perpetuated by western government that has absolutely no basis in truth.I live in a democratically elected terrorist state and the main cause of violence is a holy book and some religious leaders who tells their followers to interpret it in violent and barbaric ways.

 

I rather have kids play AO games with decapitation and full graphic sex scenes than picking up one of them holy books.I know lots of 9 year olds here who play GTA but they've never killed anyone while I seen lots of 9 yr old suicide bomber and terrorists who does all those shit because of some holy book.

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Our media mirrors society. Video games to not make people violent, our society does. We glorify war and our government does the same. Violent games are a reflection on a violent society and are not the cause of violence.

Though Violent games can effect a young mind, that is the fault of negligent parents who are letting their children play games and watch movies they shouldn't be exposed to at such a young age.

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Our media mirrors society. Video games to not make people violent, our society does. We glorify war and our government does the same. Violent games are a reflection on a violent society and are not the cause of violence.

Though Violent games can effect a young mind, that is the fault of negligent parents who are letting their children play games and watch movies they shouldn't be exposed to at such a young age.

 

I would like to add that it was actually confirmed that M Rated games are the hardest restricted media to acquire, much harder then even R Rated movies. Here is a source for that.

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Not in the slightest.

Ever do any research?

When people go apeshit crazy like that theres always a psychological disorder behind it

And more often than not a psychotropic medication. for Schizophrenia, OCD, Depression, etc.

Meds like that always take something away from you. Its nearly impossible to tell what it is unless you're the person taking them. 

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The bible leads people to satanism.

 

Yeah, that's the logic we're going for here. That's the logic people who say stuff like this are going by. Something almost entirely unrelated to violent crimes is being scapegoated into being the blame for it. Even if it's a contributing factor it is far from a cause. Unrelated but absolutely relevant: They've tried to do studies on violent video games and said people who play them have heightened adrenaline activities. You can get the same effect from a Football game, an action movie, an intense book, etc.

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While I dont think that video games cause people to just go and kill others for no good reason, I do think that modern media and culture shares some of the blame for the violent nature of kids and teenagers. Before you flame me, hear me out, because I believe this is well justified.

In the 70's and 80's, media was made to depict stories about Good vs. Evil. This was largely due to the fact that we were still in the middle of/exiting the cold war. For example, Starwars, Ghost busters, every cowboy movie ever, They all showed how good won over evil. Yes sometimes it required violence, but that was never the emphasis of the film. the emphasis was always the faith that good Luke would Defeat the Sith, and Clint Eastwood would protect the town. 

This is vastly different from today. Modern media is no loger about good vs. Evil, and is more about being cool. Movies depict teens being reckless and doing things that are illegal, violent, and just plain stupid, and they do it for no reason other than to make money off of what is viewed as "cool". For example, if you have seen the movie kickass, the main character becomes a super hero just because he is tired of being a loser. The characters in the film participate in violent activities, have sex on dumpsters, smoke weed, and even murder people. Why? Because it is deemed "cool"

Video games have been the same way. Games from Mortal Kombat to Call of Duty: Modern Warfare have all been glorifying violence since the late 90s. Yes, there have been a few good games out there that have included violence yet retained good themes, but the games that are violent just to be cool way outnumber the games that are designed with thought. 

 

So no, video games are not a direct cause of violence, but we do tend to glorify violent acts in our modern culture

 

That is just my thought on the matter. I could be wrong, but then again, I could be right. Let me know what you think.

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TimeSplitters is the best FPS series out there, and deserves a proper sequel. Anyone who says otherwise is a heretic (Or a Time Assassin, or Crow, or a monkey)

 

But more on subject, no, games do not cause violence, if anything they prevent it by providing safe forms of stress relief.


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While I think it may have an influence over stupid or crazy or crazy stupid people most people who understand the difference between fantasy and reality and have some self control will probably not be affected all that much. I have played quite a few video games some violent some not and they have all been a great escape and in the case of the more violent ones a good way to unleash some anger without actually killing someone. Even the most mentally healthy person ever every now and then just wants to wrap their hands around someone and strangle them.

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Psh, typical media crap. They find a problem in our society, and blame it on something random. Been there/done that. It's sickening. 

 

No, I don't think that video games are completely linked to violent acts. If anything, they can get some of that violence out of you in one of the least violent ways possible. Though this does depend on the age. If some child grows up with games like dead space, I could see video games being a problem. Though this is the parents fault, for not paying attention for the rating. It's there for a reason.

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