Would a changeling mane 6 be pointless

[TheMarkz0ne 962]

I have been looking at some awesome changeling versions of the mane 6. I was thinking this should be an actual thing. Chrysalis's ultimate creation can be the the changeling 6. They obey her every command and they are superior to the mane 6 in every way. Twilight's changeling is more powerful then she is. Dashie's changeling is faster than she is. You know stuff like that. i view it like sonic and metal sonic. Yeah I make many sonic references. But I can't help myself. But would it be awesome for the mane 6 to have evil counterparts? Chrysalsis can also be the changeling 6's mother as well

Edited March 19, 2013 by TheMarkz0ne

[Zygen 6,065]

Idk I mean the changelings can already transform into the mane 6, and making them be stronger then the mane 6 how are they going to beat them?

 

Idk it could be interesting I guess, possibly if it makes sense I guess.

[Rainblow H. Ash 5,090]

Oh yes, those changeling versions of the Mane Six are legit as Tartarus.

 

But I'm not sure of how they would work if actually put in the story. I like your idea that the angle could be that they're better than the Mane Six in every way, which would present a challenge for our heroes: how can they compete with versions of themselves that are superior?

 

Then of course, it turns out that they have the magic of friendship and the changelings do not and they own them in the face with a friendship death blast.

 

Game. Set. Match.

 

*Takes a puff on pipe*

[TheMarkz0ne 962]

Well I would love to see the metal sonic approach. The changeling six actually believe they are the real mane six. Sure they have better attributes then the original mane six, but they are the heroes of course they will find some way to win

[Rainblow H. Ash 5,090]

Well I would love to see the metal sonic approach. The changeling six actually believe they are the real mane six. Sure they have better attributes then the original mane six, but they are the heroes of course they will find some way to win

 

Hmm...

 

That makes that even more interesting. You could even have a plot point that the Changeling Mane Six are questioning their own identities and their own existence  perhaps even turning on Chrysalis due to the real Mane Six convincing them that they can be their own people.

 

Or you could go the sad route like that Sonic OVA, and have the Changeling Mane Six accept their fate as shameless copies and sacrifice themselves to save the Mane Six from Chrysalis.

[TheMarkz0ne 962]

Hmm...

 

That makes that even more interesting. You could even have a plot point that the Changeling Mane Six are questioning their own identities and their own existence  perhaps even turning on Chrysalis due to the real Mane Six convincing them that they can be their own people.

 

Or you could go the sad route like that Sonic OVA, and have the Changeling Mane Six accept their fate as shameless copies and sacrifice themselves to save the Mane Six from Chrysalis.

Well my idea is that the changeling six are like well robots, they are not robots but you get what I mean. They are devoid of any emotion . Their only function is to serve Chrysalis and destroy the mane six. Similar to what Robotnik wanted to do with metal sonic. In order for the changeling 6 to be complete they had to absorb the essence from their original counterparts. Dark for a kids show, but I know many kids shows that have done this. One being samurai jack. I want the changeling six to be stronger than the original mane six. it would mean we could really have some great villains here

[Rainblow H. Ash 5,090]

Okay, now that you've clarified, I see what you mean now.

 

Before I answer fully, I just want to say: Samurai Jack is awesome and you're awesome for mentioning it.

 

Anyway, dark versions of heroes are always a great source for good villains, if pulled off properly. But if the Changeling Six are stronger than the Mane Six, the heroes need some way to defeat them. i guess the Elements of Harmony would be an easy fix...

 

But what if the way they defeat them is by fighting someone else's counter part? You know, like Twilight fighting Changeling Dash, and Fluttershy fighting Changeling Jack?

 

I dunno, I think this idea is pretty interesting. Good topic, my friend!

[Dr. Love 88]

That's a pretty good idea if you ask me, although I was thinking of more of a King Sombra's Mane 6 with dark aura around them and those freaky looking eyes.

I really like the Metal Sonic type of idea too, where he's superior in just about every way but still can't quite beat the original.

[TheMarkz0ne 962]

Okay, now that you've clarified, I see what you mean now.

 

Before I answer fully, I just want to say: Samurai Jack is awesome and you're awesome for mentioning it.

 

Anyway, dark versions of heroes are always a great source for good villains, if pulled off properly. But if the Changeling Six are stronger than the Mane Six, the heroes need some way to defeat them. i guess the Elements of Harmony would be an easy fix...

 

But what if the way they defeat them is by fighting someone else's counter part? You know, like Twilight fighting Changeling Dash, and Fluttershy fighting Changeling Jack?

 

I dunno, I think this idea is pretty interesting. Good topic, my friend!You grto

You got some nice concepts. ut I think it would be challenging if each pony fought their evil counterpart. it would add some tension. The elements of harmony could work. But if you want to get real compliated the changeling six can be connected to the elements of harmony. The changeling six can absorb the negative energy from the elements while the original mane six absorb the positive energy 

[Rainblow H. Ash 5,090]

You got some nice concepts. ut I think it would be challenging if each pony fought their evil counterpart. it would add some tension. The elements of harmony could work. But if you want to get real compliated the changeling six can be connected to the elements of harmony. The changeling six can absorb the negative energy from the elements while the original mane six absorb the positive energy 

 

Oh no, don't get me wrong, I think that the Changeling Six should fight their Mane Six counterparts, but that part of the battle could involve the Mane Six trying a different tactic by fighting a Changeling that's not their counterpart.

 

A connection to the Elements of Harmony? I'm not sure. What sort of explanation could be given to support that? I'm not against the idea, but it needs a good explanation behind it. Perhaps Chrysalis had shards of them that she used to give the Changeling Six a connection to the Elements? Or perhaps the existence of two sets of the Mane Six has confused the Elements of Harmony and it has trouble choosing who can access its mighty powers?

[Mutemutt 772]

You got some nice concepts. ut I think it would be challenging if each pony fought their evil counterpart. it would add some tension. The elements of harmony could work. But if you want to get real compliated the changeling six can be connected to the elements of harmony. The changeling six can absorb the negative energy from the elements while the original mane six absorb the positive energy 

 

Well that sounds like you're going more into the "dark counterpart" territory. Wouldn't that be more of a king Sombra thing since he had the whole dark magic thing going on?

 

I feel like if there were a changeling mane 6, they should still incorporate the characteristics that define the changelings: copying others and feeding off love.

[pinkiefan1287 610]

That does sound like a pretty good idea and it is very classic idea to. If they did do it they could work in the elements of disharmony. That would be cool.

 

Still how the other work. I could see one Changeling being powerful with magic to fight Twilight, one with flying to fight Rainbow Dash, and one being super strong to fight Applejack. But how would Rarity, Pinkie Pie, and Fluttershy fight an evil 6? The 3 aren't in anyways strong in away for fighting. So I feel like those 3 would be hard to wright about.

[Rainblow H. Ash 5,090]

That does sound like a pretty good idea and it is very classic idea to. If they did do it they could work in the elements of disharmony. That would be cool.

 

Still how the other work. I could see one Changeling being powerful with magic to fight Twilight, one with flying to fight Rainbow Dash, and one being super strong to fight Applejack. But how would Rarity, Pinkie Pie, and Fluttershy fight an evil 6? The 3 aren't in anyways strong in away for fighting. So I feel like those 3 would be hard to wright about.

 

Good point, actually. I guess perhaps Pinkie Pie's Changeling counterpart has better fourth wall breaking capabilities?

 

I'm not sure. More pipe puffing is required to solve this problem I think.

 

And I think Cota brings up a good point. Dark versions of the Mane Six would probably work better as Sombra's dark magic rather than Changeling creations.

[TheMarkz0ne 962]

I am sticking with Chrysalis being the mother of the changeling six. Because chrysalis is a better villain than Sombra. Sombra is dead and he had no character what so ever

[Rainblow H. Ash 5,090]

I am sticking with Chrysalis being the mother of the changeling six. Because chrysalis is a better villain than Sombra. Sombra is dead and he had no character what so ever

 

Wow, harsh bro. Poor Sombra is dead and you can't even properly honor the guy's memory!

 

All joking aside, I have no qualms with Chrysalis being the creator of the Changeling Six, but there has to be logical explanations as to how they're better than the Mane Six, as well as how they have a connection to the Elements at all. Perhaps my theory could work in this case? You know, that the Elements are confused as to who their true masters are?

[pinkiefan1287 610]

Good point, actually. I guess perhaps Pinkie Pie's Changeling counterpart has better fourth wall breaking capabilities?

 

I'm not sure. More pipe puffing is required to solve this problem I think.

 

And I think Cota brings up a good point. Dark versions of the Mane Six would probably work better as Sombra's dark magic rather than Changeling creations.

 

 

NO WAY!!! No one can break the forth wall better then Pinkie Pie. It would take a changeling a thousand years before even coming close to doing it. 

 

But back to the Sombra creating the evil 6. Now that would work a whole lot better. He could even use his powers to make some dark elements. That would work.

[Rainblow H. Ash 5,090]

 

NO WAY!!! No one can break the forth wall better then Pinkie Pie. It would take a changeling a thousand years before even coming close to doing it. 

 

But back to the Sombra creating the evil 6. Now that would work a whole lot better. He could even use his powers to make some dark elements. That would work.

 

Ha ha, right you are my friend! But Pinkie Pie is nice enough to lend Changeling Pie some of her powers so that it's at least a fair fight of course!

 

And I think TheMarkzOne is pretty adamant about the Changeling Six. Besides, if they are Sombra's creations, what would we call them? The Dark Six? The Sombra Six? Actually, the Sombra Six doesn't sound bad at all...

[TheMarkz0ne 962]

Yeah sorry if I'm coming off as a Chrysalis fan boy, but I just am. When i think Villains in MLP it's Discord and Chrysalis. But mostly Chrysalis because i find her parasitic powers more interesting. i also view her as a dark celestia. to me she is an awesome villain and if she had created a changeling six it would be interesting to see this for a plot in season 4. i doubt it but it could be possible

[Rainblow H. Ash 5,090]

Yeah sorry if I'm coming off as a Chrysalis fan boy, but I just am. When i think Villains in MLP it's Discord and Chrysalis. But mostly Chrysalis because i find her parasitic powers more interesting. i also view her as a dark celestia. to me she is an awesome villain and if she had created a changeling six it would be interesting to see this for a plot in season 4. i doubt it but it could be possible

 

Oh, I completely understand! Sombra is my least favorite villain, but I don't hate him. He's sort of just... there.

 

I feel that Chrysalis returning would be cool, but I just think that a plausible back story would have to be crafted to make the Changeling Six feel natural and not shoe-horned in.

 

It would be awesome to have them in the show just because the Changeling Six designs are really awesome, though.

[Mutemutt 772]

Yeah sorry if I'm coming off as a Chrysalis fan boy, but I just am. When i think Villains in MLP it's Discord and Chrysalis. But mostly Chrysalis because i find her parasitic powers more interesting. i also view her as a dark celestia. to me she is an awesome villain and if she had created a changeling six it would be interesting to see this for a plot in season 4. i doubt it but it could be possible

 

I understand where you're coming from, Chrysalis is my favorite of the villains in the series, it's just that, so far in this topic, the suggestions seem to fit Sombra better. I'll be honest, from what I've seen so far in the topic, the changeling 6 don't sound very much like changelings. They sound like Sombra's dark creations for going against the elements of harmony or maybe even corrupting them.

 

The Sombra Six? Actually, the Sombra Six doesn't sound bad at all...

Extra points for alliteration . That's right up there with the Fantastic Four, Fearsome Five and Sinister Seven.

[Rainblow H. Ash 5,090]

I understand where you're coming from, Chrysalis is my favorite of the villains in the series, it's just that, so far in this topic, the suggestions seem to fit Sombra better. I'll be honest, from what I've seen so far in the topic, the changeling 6 don't sound very much like changelings. They sound like Sombra's dark creations for going against the elements of harmony or maybe even corrupting them.

 

Extra points for alliteration . That's right up there with the Fantastic Four, Fearsome Five and Sinister Seven.

 

See, that's one reason why I think the Changeling Six would need a better explanation; with the whole dark versions of the Mane Six thing, Sombra would just work better since that would seem to fall within his realm of power, while Chrysalis and her minions are more about imitating others rather than being a dark version of them. I could see corruption and darkness falling more into his turf really, especially when it comes to this situation.

 

And yes, the Sombra Six was a stroke of genius. I of course take full credit, although I had no small amount of help from my trusty pipe!

[Phoenix237 353]

Have fear

Me no here to ruin the day

(Bizzaro reference)

 

Okay I have recently seen the Aliens film franchise and I have a solution as to why the mane 6 changelings are stronger, or different from the rest.

This sounds strange, but what about hybrids.

 

In one of the aliens film a human was cloned using Xenomorph DNA as well to make a hybrid. This hybrid was superior to humans and was more adapt for survival then a Xenomorph. The hybrid could move and think like a human, only to a higher extent, and had abilities that the Xenomorphs had.

 

So what about hybrids.

Queen Crysalis could find a way to combine the regular ponies with the changelings to create these superior hybrids.

The ponies DNA could be from the mane six, to creat these changeling hybrids of the mane six.

Maybe thats why they are different from the rest of the changelings, and a bit stronger then te mane six.

 

This Is just an idea.

If you don't like it then that's okay. It's kinda hard to explain.

(honestly for some reason when I see the changeling I think of Xenomorphs and vise-versa)

[Magic Man 221]

I think it could work, exception that the Changeling Mane Six aren't genetically created as counterparts to the Mane Six, they are just ordinary Changelings who are by chance doppelgangers to them. It's kind of like that Recess episode where the gang went to play kickball in a rival school and found that the players and school were eerily similar to them.

 

I'd like to see Pinkie Pie and Changeling Pinkie Pie do that 'Am I looking in a mirror?' gag by moving symmetrically to each other and pulling faces at each other.

[Rainblow H. Ash 5,090]

I think it could work, exception that the Changeling Mane Six aren't genetically created as counterparts to the Mane Six, they are just ordinary Changelings who are by chance doppelgangers to them. It's kind of like that Recess episode where the gang went to play kickball in a rival school and found that the players and school were eerily similar to them.

 

I'd like to see Pinkie Pie and Changeling Pinkie Pie do that 'Am I looking in a mirror?' gag by moving symmetrically to each other and pulling faces at each other.

 

You know, I could actually see that working as just an episode where the Mane Six meet six ponies from another town that are eerily similar to them. Could be an episode about "uniqueness" or something.

 

I think the idea of Chrysalis specifically creating them is probably better than having six random Changelings that look like them, especially since all the Changelings we've seen in the show look exactly alike. It'd be pretty strange to have six Changelings that suddenly look like the Mane characters. You know, unless they disguised themselves to look like the Mane Six. Then that would make perfect sense.

[Magic Man 221]

You know, I could actually see that working as just an episode where the Mane Six meet six ponies from another town that are eerily similar to them. Could be an episode about "uniqueness" or something.

 

I think the idea of Chrysalis specifically creating them is probably better than having six random Changelings that look like them, especially since all the Changelings we've seen in the show look exactly alike. It'd be pretty strange to have six Changelings that suddenly look like the Mane characters. You know, unless they disguised themselves to look like the Mane Six. Then that would make perfect sense.

 

 

Let's not be too quick to make that judgement on the Changelings. The Changelings we've seen so far on the show are part of the ARMY. My guess is that the animators made them all look alike because how easier it would be to do that than give each of them unique appearances, especially considering there were about a thousand of them. If the writors got to individual changelings not in the army, but say in a homeland where the women and children are, and yes I am perhaps one of the handful of people who like to believe they have their own homeland and society, deal with it, then those individual changelings may have drastically their own appearances, including mane and their own colours. If the writers went down that road, then having a group of changelings whose roles and personalities are not that similar to the Mane Six, but their appearances are, then maybe that could work.