music Poll: What is your favorite subgenre of metal?

[TheSupremeLeaderOfChaos 1,206]

.............................ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Paramore and Three Days grace are rock, not metal, silly!!! xD

 

You better watch out for AtDawnTheySquee, he's gonna kick your butt lol

 

Lol, thanks for the info. XD I usually just listen to dubstep, so that's about as far as my musical knowledge goes. But, thanks. I guess I kinda needed to know that. I feel rather stupid... No matter! You learn something new everyday. I guess this is what I learned today. XD

[Le Kvlt Dawn 2,364]

 

 

You better watch out for AtDawnTheySquee, he's gonna kick your butt lol

It's okay, I went through that face a while back.

 

Lol, thanks for the info. XD I usually just listen to dubstep, so that's about as far as my musical knowledge goes. But, thanks. I guess I kinda needed to know that. I feel rather stupid... No matter! You learn something new everyday. I guess this is what I learned today. XD

*insert "The More You Know" meme right here*

 

 

Also, shouldnt deathcore be an option as well? I listen to that just as much as metalcore. So both of those would be my favorite subgenres.

Yea you're right, it should be option on here. 

[Champion RD92 8,658]

It's okay, I went through that face a while back.

 

 

You went through that face?.............oh wait, you mean phase? lol

 

Lol but I was totally expecting you to make fun of her and laugh at her lol

Edited July 24, 2013 by Champion RD92

[Le Kvlt Dawn 2,364]

 

 

You went through that face?.............oh wait, you mean phase? lol

Yes that's what I meant, phase not face. Besides, you're the only person I ever make fun off :3

 

Anyways, I re-voted on this poll. I'm also surprised at how many people on here like power metal (I honestly can not stand power metal).

[Champion RD92 8,658]

So I'll list some genres and bands I like.

 

Thrash: Metallica, Megadeth, Machine Head (?)

Progressive: Dream Theater, Between the Buried and Me, Periphery

Metalcore: Avenged Sevenfold, Atreyu, Trivium, Killswitch Engage

Alternative/Nu: Slipknot, System of a Down

Groove: Pantera, Lamb of God

[Thrashy 2,800]

As if anyone even had to ask what MY favorite is.

 

I'm actually pleasantly surprised that A.) black metal is a minority and B.) power metal is not nearly as hated as Crispy's metal thread would indicate. lel. (Dammit all, Champ. I can't stop saying 'lel' because of you. lelelel.)

 

If I'm to rate my other favorite subgenres after thrash, it'd go a little something like:

 

thrash > NWOBHM > power > folk > symphonic > prog > everything else

[Le Kvlt Dawn 2,364]

 

 

Thrash: Metallica, Megadeth, Machine Head (?)

I don't listen to Machine Head but I heard something about them being groove.

 

 

Metalcore: Avenged Sevenfold, Atreyu, Trivium, Killswitch Engage

 

Metalcore bands that are in my music library:

Early BTBAM

Converge

Norma Jean

Shai Hulud

 

I'm not much of an expert on metalcore. BTW, have you given doom and sludge metal a chance?

[Champion RD92 8,658]

I don't listen to Machine Head but I heard something about them being groove.

 

I'm not much of an expert on metalcore. BTW, have you given doom and sludge metal a chance?

 

I read that Machine Head are groove/thrash, so I just put them under thrash, whatever.

 

Isn't Mastodon sludge metal?...Cause I seem to like them quite a bit.

 

And no I haven't really listened to doom.

(Dammit all, Champ. I can't stop saying 'lel' because of you. lelelel.)

 

 

The only reason I started saying "lel" is because Kirino (or whatever his/her name is now, they change their username all the time) always says it and I started saying it sometimes.

[Le Kvlt Dawn 2,364]

 

 

I read that Machine Head are groove/thrash, so I just put them under thrash, whatever.

Ya know some people claim that Pantera are metalcore, I can see why.

 

 

Isn't Mastodon sludge metal?...Cause I seem to like them quite a bit.

 

They're progressive/sludge. I was more referring to the more traditional stuff like Acid Bath and Eyehategod.

 

 

And no I haven't really listened to doom.

Have you at least listened to some of Black Sabbath's stuff? 

[uuunph 288]

I don't listen to Machine Head but I heard something about them being groove.

 

 

 

Metalcore bands that are in my music library:

Early BTBAM

Converge

Norma Jean

Shai Hulud

 

I'm not much of an expert on metalcore. BTW, have you given doom and sludge metal a chance?

Machine Head is groove-thrash. Especially a lot of groove on Burn My Eyes, ...The More Things Change, and Through the Ashes of Empires. Latest two albums have a lot more thrash.

[Champion RD92 8,658]

Ya know some people claim that Pantera are metalcore, I can see why.

 

 

 

They're progressive/sludge. I was more referring to the more traditional stuff like Acid Bath and Eyehategod.

 

 

Have you at least listened to some of Black Sabbath's stuff? 

 

I've never ever heard Pantera called metalcore in my life...I've heard Lamb of God called metalcore though.

 

And no I haven't heard Acid Bath or Eyehategod.

 

And I didn't realize Black Sabbath was doom metal.

[Le Kvlt Dawn 2,364]

 

 

I've never ever heard Pantera called metalcore in my life...I've heard Lamb of God called metalcore though.

Pantera was actually a HUGE influence on metalcore, they even have some metalcore-esque songs. (Go listen to Suicide Note Part II.)

 

 

And I didn't realize Black Sabbath was doom metal.

They pretty much set up the foundation for doom/sludge. 

[Hansel 1,512]

Yes that's what I meant, phase not face. Besides, you're the only person I ever make fun off :3

 

Anyways, I re-voted on this poll. I'm also surprised at how many people on here like power metal (I honestly can not stand power metal).

 

Power Metal is awesome.   *hugs Kamelot CD's*

 

As if anyone even had to ask what MY favorite is.

 

I'm actually pleasantly surprised that A.) black metal is a minority

 

 

But Black Metal is incredible, and one of the most diverse and experimental subgenres in Metal. Why would you say such a thing? .-.

 

 

Isn't Mastodon sludge metal?...Cause I seem to like them quite a bit.

 

 

They're Sludge for people who can't handle trve Sludge.

 

 

You heard me.

 

 

And I didn't realize Black Sabbath was doom metal.

 

They're not, but they were the main inspirations for the early Doom Metal scene in the 80's. 

 

Black Sabbath just like, you know, created Metal in general.

 

And stuff.

Edited July 24, 2013 by Hansel

[Le Kvlt Dawn 2,364]

 

 

Power Metal is awesome.   *hugs Kamelot CD's*

The power metal album I like is Keeper of the Seven Keys Pt1 and I hardly ever listen to it. It's the cheesy vocals and the overall "happy" feeling that turns me away from it. 

 

 

But Black Metal is incredible, and one of the most diverse and experimental subgenres in Metal. Why would you say such a thing? .-.

IKR, black metal is one of the most diverse metal genres out there. 

[Hansel 1,512]

The power metal album I like is Keeper of the Seven Keys Pt1 and I hardly ever listen to it. It's the cheesy vocals and the overall "happy" feeling that turns me away from it. 

 

 

IKR, black metal is one of the most diverse metal genres out there. 

 

Hey now, not all Power Metal is like that. Although I do like the cheesy stuff as well. See the aforementioned Kamelot.

 

Who, by the way, I saw on their last tour with Roy Khan. He was the best live vocalists I have ever seen in ever. And I've seen Iron Maiden.

 

And I'm not sure if that Black Metal remark is sarcastic or sincere.

Edited July 24, 2013 by Hansel

[Le Kvlt Dawn 2,364]

 

 

They're Sludge for people who can't handle trve Sludge.

I have a Mastodon CD and I listen to Acid Bath, Eyehategod, Isis, Electric Wizard, Sleep, etc. :,< 

 

 

They're not, but they were the main inspirations for the early Doom Metal scene in the 80's. 

And thus, you got stuff like Candlemass and Saint Vitus.

[Thrashy 2,800]

 

 

But Black Metal is incredible, and one of the most diverse and experimental subgenres in Metal. Why would you say such a thing? .-.

 

I just don't understand the appeal of what seems to be the dominant form of black metal - screechy vocals, clumsy guitar work, a distinct lack of guitar solos, extreme down-tuning, obsessively anti-Christian lyrics, and absolutely wretched recording quality.

 

Me, I'm a clean/raspy vocals, tight guitar work, plethora of solos, E-standard tuning, meaningful lyrics, and competent mixing kinda guy.

 

I do realize that perhaps not all black metal is like this, but I'm not nearly bold enough to go wading through a sea of crap to find the one black metal band that I can stomach. If that's what floats y'all's boats, I won't judge, but it's like the forefathers of black metal took everything I hate about (what I consider to be) bad metal and threw it all in a blender. :\

[Hansel 1,512]

I just don't understand the appeal of what seems to be the dominant form of black metal - screechy vocals, clumsy guitar work, a distinct lack of guitar solos, extreme down-tuning, obsessively anti-Christian lyrics, and absolutely wretched recording quality.

 

Me, I'm a clean/raspy vocals, tight guitar work, plethora of solos, E-standard tuning, meaningful lyrics, and competent mixing kinda guy.

 

I do realize that perhaps not all black metal is like this, but I'm not nearly bold enough to go wading through a sea of crap to find the one black metal band that I can stomach. If that's what floats y'all's boats, I won't judge, but it's like the forefathers of black metal took everything I hate about (what I consider to be) bad metal and threw it all in a blender. :\

 

To be perfectly honest, I'm not a huge fan of Traditional Black Metal. Neither Venom, nor the later Scandinavian stuff aside from a few songs here and there appeal to me

 

But Black Metal has grown a lot since then, and has become so diverse and interesting, that it's probably one of my favorite sub-genres of Metal. Not to mention some of the amazing fusion Black Metal genres, and the big role it plays in the Post-Metal scene. There's a lot of amazing Black Metal, and most of it doesn't have anything to do with Satan.

Edited July 24, 2013 by Hansel

[Le Kvlt Dawn 2,364]

 

 

I just don't understand the appeal of what seems to be the dominant form of black metal - screechy vocals, clumsy guitar work, a distinct lack of guitar solos, extreme down-tuning, obsessively anti-Christian lyrics, and absolutely wretched recording quality.

Have you tried listening to First Wave stuff?

 

 

Me, I'm a clean/raspy vocals, tight guitar work, plethora of solos, E-standard tuning, meaningful lyrics, and competent mixing kinda guy.

Full step down>E-Standard. LIKE OMFSM, my guitar sounds so cool when it's a full step down.  

 

 

I do realize that perhaps not all black metal is like this, but I'm not nearly bold enough to go wading through a sea of crap to find the one black metal band that I can stomach. If that's what floats y'all's boats, I won't judge, but it's like the forefathers of black metal took everything I hate about (what I consider to be) bad metal and threw it all in a blender. :\

Well, I could say the same about power metal. Cheesy vocals, an overall "happy" sound, uplifting lyrics, fantasy based songs, etc. 

[Taviscratch 453]

I grew up listening to Slipknot, Disturbed and Korn so I guess it's Nu metal for me but I also love Rammstein, Stone Sour and other bands from across most sub genres of metal. Nu metal has probably influenced my taste in music most though.

[Thrashy 2,800]

Have you tried listening to First Wave stuff?

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No, but I'll admit this song isn't half bad. But the only reason I can say that with a straight face is because, instrumentally, it seems to be attached at the hip to thrash. Which makes it A-OK in my book, as I'm sure you're aware.

 

Also, I'm cool with going down to D-standard tuning, but no lower. If one absolutely must play a song in a lower key, I'd recommend just using a capo on a 7-string, otherwise it sounds muddy as shit.

 

 

Well, I could say the same about power metal. Cheesy vocals, an overall "happy" sound, uplifting lyrics, fantasy based songs, etc. 

 

My only argument to that is that fantasy settings aren't nearly as unoriginal as people often claim them to be. Maybe they're a little cheesy in this day and age, but there are so many different stories that can be woven around that same general theme, which is why there are still so many prolific fantasy writers even today.

 

But IMO, once you've heard one band say "fuck Christians", you've heard 'em all. Hell, even Slayer needed to take a break from that shit every once in a while and attack other things like politics and racism.

 

Also, if you guys have any more black metal you think I might even remotely enjoy, keep the links coming. I'm open-minded enough to at least give a listen.

Edited July 24, 2013 by Lowline Thrash

[Le Kvlt Dawn 2,364]

 

 

No, but I'll admit this song isn't half bad. But the only reason I can say that with a straight face is because, instrumentally, it seems to be attached at the hip to thrash. Which makes it A-OK in my book, as I'm sure you're aware.

It's Celtic Frost, plenty of thrashers like Celtic Frost.

 

 

Also, I'm cool with going down to D-standard tuning, but no lower. If one absolutely must play a song in a lower key, I'd recommend just using a capo on a 7-string, otherwise it sounds muddy as shit.

But drop C sounds really cool too :< 

 

 

My only argument to that is that fantasy settings aren't nearly as unoriginal as people often claim them to be. Maybe they're a little cheesy in this day and age, but there are so many different stories that can be woven around that same general theme, which is why there are still so many prolific fantasy writers even today.

Black metal has deep lyrics too :<

 

 

But IMO, once you've heard one band say "fuck Christians", you've heard 'em all. Hell, even Slayer needed to take a break from that shit every once in a while and attack other things like politics and racism.

I thought Tom was a Catholic lol.  

[uuunph 288]

I don't really like capo's. Except on acoustic guitar's though.

Edited August 23, 2020 by uuunph

[Thrashy 2,800]

 

 

I thought Tom was a Catholic lol.

 

Eeyup. That's part of what makes Slayer so awesome to me. "I don't believe in what I'm singing, but I'm such a badass that I don't give a FUCK."

 

Either way, lyrical content is normally something that doesn't bother me that much, I just think "FUCK YOUR GOD!" is something that can get old pretty quickly. And to be fair, magic and dragon slaying can get pretty old too, but the power metal bands that really stand out (like Iced Earth and Rage) focus more on relatable shit like the evils of holy war, corrupt politicians, etc.

 

But if you have some more thrashy black metal songs with some deep lyrics, send 'em my way, bro.

 

- I can see Dawn digging that album, but it's actually one of my least favorites.    It's a little sludgy for my tastes, but then again, I'm one to prefer Jon Schaffer's endless supply of tight triplets:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEcssL5Lf8g

[Le Kvlt Dawn 2,364]

- I can see Dawn digging that album, but it's actually one of my least favorites.    It's a little sludgy for my tastes, but then again, I'm one to prefer Jon Schaffer's endless supply of tight triplets:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEcssL5Lf8g

Hmm... not bad. It would be better if the vocals were a lot raspier though. I don't find it sludgy at all though, it's a lot more thrash than anything.