gaming What do YOU want to see in the new Smash Brothers

[Sonicrules831 520]

Well I'm pretty excited for the new SSB game. I hope Sonic is in the new game. They should also consider adding Shadow the Hedgehog too and as @DJ-BRONI3 said, 1-2 from each series sounds reasonable

[RWB 229]

All I would like is a more compelling storyline and a better single player regime plus I would like to see Link be improved to what he naturally is.

 

Um, what do you mean by that?

 

Link being a low tier character actually does make sense from a story standpoint, even though they should balance the game better.

 

If we improved the characters to what they are, the Kirby characters, Samus and Sonic would be hilariously broken, what with hitting like a bunch of freight trains -or non-broken because you know, nobody can play at their actual speed- all of them are hypersonic with laughable ease).

 

 

Tier(Story):

 

God Tier:

Sonic(if Super is allowed)

Kirby

Meta-Knight

King Dedede

Samus

Pit

 

Top Tier:

Mario/Luigi/Bowser/Peach/Wario/DK

Yoshi

Diddy(reasonable assumption)

 

 

 

Mid Tier

Lucas/Ness(their low placement is due to his lack of speed, they have Top Tier level power)

Mewtwo(his low placement is due to his lack of speed)

Captain Falcon/Starfox/Wolf(quite a bit above the following)

Charizard

Pikachu

Ivysaur

Squirtle

 

Low Tier is mostly The Zelda and Fire Emblem characters, and Bottom are the ones that are outright human level or weaker.

 

 

As for anyone doubting the Kirby characters:

 

Meta-Knight has flown at relativistic speeds, and has a faster than light spaceship.

Kirby can keep up with MK, has enough strength to crack a planet, and can weather extreme amounts of punishment with little to no issue.

King Dedede can hang with Kirby, which is enough to put him up there.

[Chacobos 160]

"I want sharks that frickin laser beams"
 

~Dr. Evil

 

In all reality though, I really want them to just put in BETTER ONLINE! SSBB would have been my favorite if it's online didn't suck so hard. You were lucky if you didn't even lag more than a few frames in most cases D: 

[Darkshift 85]

Um, what do you mean by that?

 

Link being a low tier character actually does make sense from a story standpoint, even though they should balance the game better.

 

If we improved the characters to what they are, the Kirby characters, Samus and Sonic would be hilariously broken, what with hitting like a bunch of freight trains -or non-broken because you know, nobody can play at their actual speed- all of them are hypersonic with laughable ease).

 

 

Tier(Story):

 

God Tier:

Sonic(if Super is allowed)

Kirby

Meta-Knight

King Dedede

Samus

Pit

 

Top Tier:

Mario/Luigi/Bowser/Peach/Wario/DK

Yoshi

Diddy(reasonable assumption)

 

 

 

Mid Tier

Lucas/Ness(their low placement is due to his lack of speed, they have Top Tier level power)

Mewtwo(his low placement is due to his lack of speed)

Captain Falcon/Starfox/Wolf(quite a bit above the following)

Charizard

Pikachu

Ivysaur

Squirtle

 

Low Tier is mostly The Zelda and Fire Emblem characters, and Bottom are the ones that are outright human level or weaker.

 

 

As for anyone doubting the Kirby characters:

 

Meta-Knight has flown at relativistic speeds, and has a faster than light spaceship.

Kirby can keep up with MK, has enough strength to crack a planet, and can weather extreme amounts of punishment with little to no issue.

King Dedede can hang with Kirby, which is enough to put him up there.

You argument is partly valid but is spoiled by a lot of factors.

Mew two is lower than Mario.Now that shouldn't have even occurred in the first place because who would win

An Italian plumber or a psychic Pokemon.Im pretty sure a psychic Pokemon should always win no matter what speed.

Wario vs Link

Wario a fat guy with a motorbike vs link a warrior who has the best sword ever.

But the game doesn't seem to think about that.

BTW youre missing a character!!!

[RWB 229]

You argument is partly valid but is spoiled by a lot of factors.

Mew two is lower than Mario.Now that shouldn't have even occurred in the first place because who would win

An Italian plumber or a psychic Pokemon.Im pretty sure a psychic Pokemon should always win no matter what speed.

Wario vs Link

Wario a fat guy with a motorbike vs link a warrior who has the best sword ever.

But the game doesn't seem to think about that.

BTW youre missing a character!!!

 

 

1. Mario is a hypersonic reality warper with massive physical strength, dude. The only reason he's not higher is because he's just too slow for the people in highest tiers.

 

2. Wario is faster(Mario class speed), stronger(massively so), more durable(depending on the game, he's canonly invincible). He's also a genius inventor.

 

3. Roy's Sword is by far the most powerful sword in Smash(it alone outclassed 8 weapons that brought about atomic winter), and even then, it pales in comparison to many swords(like, say, the Sword of Superman).

[Darkshift 85]

1. Mario is a hypersonic reality warper with massive physical strength, dude. The only reason he's not higher is because he's just too slow for the people in highest tiers.

 

2. Wario is faster(Mario class speed), stronger(massively so), more durable(depending on the game, he's canonly invincible). He's also a genius inventor.

 

3. Roy's Sword is by far the most powerful sword in Smash(it alone outclassed 8 weapons that brought about atomic winter), and even then, it pales in comparison to many swords(like, say, the Sword of Superman).

No matter what you are if Mewtwo was portrayed in brawl to his true ability he would instantly be the best,the people at Brawl know that and that's why he has been replaced by Lucario.Even if ROY's sword is more powerful Links is still extremely powerful.

Wario's strength doesn't matter because Link has an awesome and braces which can protect against astronomical forces.I imagine he isn't fast enough to avoid countless slashes by a sword.BTW did you find the character you missed yet?

[RWB 229]

No, I pretty much just grouped characters I remembered. Who did I miss?

 

Mewtwo:

1. He's weaker than Ness and Lucas.

2. He's too slow to ever react to the characters above him outside those two.

3. He's not durable enough to avoid getting turned into paste by all characters above him on the list.

So, no, not really.

 

Link and Wario:

1. Nothing Link has is defensively powerful enough to defend him from Wario.

2. Wario is faster than Link can react. In the time Link throws out a single slash, Wario can punch him more than twenty times, run back home, come back, hit link with a golf club he fetched, and each of the early punches can knock Link out.

 

You are essentially pitting Link, a not very superhuman character against a monstrously superhuman character who outdoes him in every single attribute. Link's gear is not effective enough to help.

 

Either way, we should take this to PMs, it's off-topic.

[Thrashy 2,800]

Things I'd like to see:

 

-A more in-depth stage builder. The one we got was cool, but it felt like more of an afterthought than anything else. Don't get me wrong, people have managed to do some crazy shit with it, but we still could've been given so much more to work with. The ability to upload a high-res picture to use for a backdrop would be a pretty cool feature (though copyright BS might get in the way of that).

 

-Additional third party characters, but only ones that were featured on Nintendo consoles; i.e., Mega Man, Final Fantasy characters from IV to VI, Chrono Trigger characters, maybe Erdrick from Dragon Warrior (as a nice contrast to the Fire Emblem dweebs like Roy and Martha), Simon Belmont from Castlevania, Ninja Gaiden's Ryu, any of the various Street Fighter characters...the list could literally go on for days. I feel that these franchises, although merely licensed by Nintendo at one point, are still just as part of the "Nintendo experience" as any of the actual Nintendo franchises, so they would most definitely have a place in a Smash Bros. game IMO.

 

-More evened out Final Smashes. For as cheap as some people say the landmaster tanks are, at least there are ways to avoid them. Hyper Sonic, on the other hand, there is simply no avoiding...assuming a 4-year-old isn't controlling him. Speaking of this, there should be a way to toggle on and off whether a player can respawn with a Smash Ball, i.e. "pity weapon" as my friends and I like to call it.

[Mutemutt 773]

• Remove tripping

Less floaty physics

More hitstun

Bring back the bonus match type (I just liked it for some reason)

Make pokeballs better (at least as good as they were in Melee)

The usual sequel fare (more collectible trophies, more characters, etc.)

[Envy 6,176]

First of all, I don't want another SSE. But I want a stronger single-player experience than Brawl. You may be thinking that makes no sense, but if you go back to Brawl and compare all of the other single-player modes to Melee you'll see exactly what I mean.

 

I want alternate costumes. Sometimes to the extent of merely altering their look (like Link would be able to look like his SS self, his TP self, and his OOT self) other times turning them into a whole different character if it makes sense (Pokemon Trainer should have, at the very least, Leaf as an alternate costume). I wouldn't mind a little differentiation in the way the costumes play, as well. Like Mario would have his Dr. Mario costume which would play just like in Melee. This would be the next big step in the SSB series, if you ask me. At least from a casual standpoint. If Sakurai really wants to make this look like a finale to the series (although I'm not saying I want it to be a finale) this would be one of the best ways to do it.

 

I want to see more diverse stages than in Brawl. There was some diversity, but sometimes it went a bit too far off the edge. The kind of diversity I want is like Onett and Hyrule Temple. Brawl was oversaturated by stages that consisted of one large platform with smaller platforms above. How many Battlefield clones do we need?

 

As for the character roster... My most wanted character is either Isaac or Matthew from Golden Sun. They have great potential for this series. To see Isaac as an AT in Brawl while more clone characters got added was just an insult. Beyond that I'm not too picky. There are characters I think should make it, but aren't necessarily on my wishlist (like Ridley). Although next in line for who I'd like to see would be Paper Mario and Chrom. Beyond that Mewtwo and Roy need to return from Melee. Yes, four FE characters... I don't care. xD Leaf (Pokemon) would be VERY high on my list, but she should be an alternate costume of PT, as I've already said.

 

More on the character roster, I want all characters to be unique. No more clones/semi-clones. I could not believe with as small of a roster as Brawl had, we still had characters with clone-like movesets. Toon Link especially grated my nerves. I was almost happy to see him added because all of the potential of a moveset, but nope... he had Link's moveset. You can do better than that, Nintendo.

[Jonke 3,743]

 

 

More on the character roster, I want all characters to be unique. No more clones/semi-clones. I could not believe with as small of a roster as Brawl had, we still had characters with clone-like movesets

 

Agree.

 

This is something i hope they address in the upcoming title. Clones like Toon Link could've been a skin for Link instead of taking up character spots. Put more unique characters in there, not too one sided and i'm content in that department.

[CorporalPegasus 9]

-Communities and better online. Communities were very helpfull in MK7, they should bring that back!

-A new, unique moveset for Ganondorf! He deserves it.

-A greatly improved stage editor. You should also be able to share these online. (Think LBP) (And maybe QR?)

-A better Adventure Mode. (Maybe they should make it more varied, it could get boring a few times.)

-No more tripping (Brawl>Melee, but that was just stupid.)

-Stages based on Super Mario Galaxy, Kid Icarus Uprising, and a new one for Animal Crossing.

[Crazy Misty 653]

I'd like to see...

 

- Dr Mario return, but not as a new character but as an alternate suit for Mario, similar to how Wario has two different sets of costumes in Brawl.

- Mewtwo return.

- Have event matches but more challenging.

- Better online capabilities.

- A new adventure mode (ssbb style)

- Faster paced gameplay similar to melee (I don't care for L cancelling or wave dashing but I disliked how floatly Brawl felt.)

- and more that I can't think of right now o_o