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The sapient Griffons are omnivores. Yes, I think it's my head canon is that Griffons dob't eat sapient species such as Ponies, not only would they feel that is wrong, but the Ponies would declare war on them if Griffons were indiscriminately killing and eating their people.

 

Griffons aren't Orcs like from The Lord of the Rings.

 

 

I think the Griffons live in far away Kingdom, whom hunt as well farm animals. The Griffons were probably in their earily history hunter gatherers just like us Humans.

 

Yet, despite all this the canon vegetarian Ponies are tolerant of their omnivore neighbors. This bolds well for them in meeting new sapient life out there in the universe; such as Krogan or us Humans when they get an galactic civilization..

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My head canon is that ponies met griffons for the first time in the years between Luna's fall and FiM, and it was their unfamiliar attributes (omnivores, talons, warrior culture, etc.) and their expanding into Equestria from their faraway kingdom that led to initial conflict.

 

That stuff has cooled down since then, but it's hard (and a little awkward) for a meat eating species to live alongside a vegetarian race, hence why there isn't a lot of griffins hanging about.


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I think there is some discrimination and misconceptions on both sides but it seems like they do live in relative peace despite this though it is likely that wasn't always the case. I really would like to find out more about the griffons though particularly their relationship with ponies as we only saw two griffons Gilda in Griffon the Brush off and Gustav the baker in Mmmmmystery on the Friendship Express. I find it really interesting how the ponies weren't anywhere near as afraid of Gilda as they were of Zecora even though Zebra's are a lot closer genetically speaking to ponies than Griffons are.

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Considering the "vegetarian" state of the ponies themselves is arguable, I think it pretty reasonable to assume they have no issue with omnivores.

 

http://bgcrisis.blogspot.se/2012/02/meat-in-my-little-pony-friendship-is.html

 

For what it's worth, I see the ponies as being mostly like real ponies: They eat vegetarian most of the time(as they are herbivores), but do enjoy the rare meal of meat when offered(a lot of herbivores, not just equines, eat meat when they come across it).

 

See it as that rare delicacy that is really bad for you to eat, but you just have to indulge in now and then.

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Also, that gravy from the Keep calm and flutter on episode seemed to be meatbased going by the look of it.

 

 

Also, mythical unicorns ate both vegetation and meat.


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They probably are.

See Gilda and that fancypants griffon chef dude from MMMystery on the Friendship Express.

 

What's interesting, though, is that in mythology, griffons would prey on horses. My whole headcanon is that Gilda just got really hungry and fed up with all these yummy ponies around when she visited Dash and so she just exploded. Like surrounding a hungry man with a bunch of juicy steaks and then telling him that he couldn't have any.


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If the ponies really are exclusively vegetarian, I wouldn't think it'd be due to a willful distaste for meat or omnivorous behavior in general; rather, an herbivorous diet selected for the survival of their ancient equine ancestors, so all modern Equus sapiens (taxonomy, bitches!) would theoretically be plant-eaters simply because their ancestors never had an evolutionary need for meat. Thus, I don't think they'd look upon griffons' dietary behavior with any sense of disgust or horror, since meat was apparently essential to the propagation of the "proto-griffon" species.

 

...Well, okay, Fluttershy might look upon it with horror. sad.png

 

Being sapient beings, ponies could certainly choose to eat meat if they so desired, but it's altogether possible that their evolutionary history as herbivores has left them biologically ill-prepared to properly digest meat in the first place; perhaps a juicy tri tip sandwich would give a pony a terrible stomach ache. If that's the case, a community barbecue would be disastrous...

 

 

 

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Didn't Pinkie Pie mention a hot dog eating contest in one episode. I think it was Fall Weather Friends. If I'm correct, this means ponies are in fact omnivores.

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If the ponies really are exclusively vegetarian, I wouldn't think it'd be due to a willful distaste for meat or omnivorous behavior in general; rather, an herbivorous diet selected for the survival of their ancient equine ancestors, so all modern Equus sapiens (taxonomy, bitches!) would theoretically be plant-eaters simply because their ancestors never had an evolutionary need for meat. Thus, I don't think they'd look upon griffons' dietary behavior with any sense of disgust or horror, since meat was apparently essential to the propagation of the "proto-griffon" species.

 

...Well, okay, Fluttershy might look upon it with horror. img-1521774-1-sad.png

 

Being sapient beings, ponies could certainly choose to eat meat if they so desired, but it's altogether possible that their evolutionary history as herbivores has left them biologically ill-prepared to properly digest meat in the first place; perhaps a juicy tri tip sandwich would give a pony a terrible stomach ache. If that's the case, a community barbecue would be disastrous...

 

 

 

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Wait... aren't horses unable to vomit without dying? I'm even more afraid for Berry than I was before...

 

But if that's the case, maybe the same thing applies with their diet, and we shouldn't compare them to real horses.


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Wait... aren't horses unable to vomit without dying? I'm even more afraid for Berry than I was before...

 

But if that's the case, maybe the same thing applies with their diet, and we shouldn't compare them to real horses.

Certainly they're not comparable to actual horses (Equus caballus) on a behavioral level, but there do seem to be at least a handful hoofful of biological and instinctual parallels between them, which is why I made the connection. But to be sure, E. sapiens and E. caballus would be two completely different species if they coexisted IRL, and thus you're right in that they couldn't rightfully be looked at through the same lens. I just find it fun to speculate that they'd be related through a common equine ancestor in the same way that humans and apes are related through a common apelike ancestor. happy.png

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I would guess the tolerance would vary from pony to pony. Someplace that has lots of griffons or other omnivores would probably be used to it, but some insular place like Ponyville probably wouldn't. Rainbow would certainly understand Gilda's meat-eating ways and Twilight would probably have read about it and be intellectually ready, but the others might not know and be horrified if she ate flesh in front of them.

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probably not. because animals in mlp are viewed as equally as valuble as ponys in intellectual capacity. it would be like cannnibalism almost. there all in the same animal category. it also depends of course what animal they eat. such as a cow for steak which would be tottally wrong since weve heard one talk meaning there independent and intelligent to a degree but of course they would tolerate omnivores. spike is a dragon and im sure he would eat meatif he wasnt raised with twilight. they tolerate him

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Didn't Pinkie Pie mention a hot dog eating contest in one episode. I think it was Fall Weather Friends. If I'm correct, this means ponies are in fact omnivores.

They could be vegetarian hot dogs.

 

The sapient Griffons are omnivores. Yes, I think it's my head canon is that Griffons dob't eat sapient species such as Ponies, not only would they feel that is wrong, but the Ponies would declare war on them if Griffons were indiscriminately killing and eating their people.

 

Griffons aren't Orcs like from The Lord of the Rings.

 

 

I think the Griffons live in far away Kingdom, whom hunt as well farm animals. The Griffons were probably in their earily history hunter gatherers just like us Humans.

 

Yet, despite all this the canon vegetarian Ponies are tolerant of their omnivore neighbors. This bolds well for them in meeting new sapient life out there in the universe; such as Krogan or us Humans when they get an galactic civilization..

Where is the proof that the griffons in the show are omnivores? (Mythology notwithstanding) Considering we've seen all of two griffons the entire time and neither of them ate any meat.


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hmm I would assume they are tolerant they are a civilized species after all....but this is a good question, if I was to say...start eating a medium rare steak in front of them, im curious to know how they would react. huh.png


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They could be vegetarian hot dogs.

Yes, you're right in saying that they COULD be vegetarian but they COULD also be made out of real meat. All I'm saying is that I just think it's possible. Who knows? Maybe they even have Kosher.

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I agree with those who have pointed out that the terms 'carnivore', 'omnivore', and 'herbivore' aren't as fixed as you might think. Carnivores will eat plant material, and herbivores will eat animal proteins when available. There aren't any true 'exclusive' herbivores.

 

I have a couple of horses on the farm, and I can tell you flat out that they will eat meat if available. I've watched a horse deliberately catch a grass snake and eat it. It wasn't an accident, the horse actually pursued the snake.

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I'm pretty sure ponies would be creeped out by omnivores and carnivores eating living things, but then again, omnivores need to balance their diet and carnivores have no other choice. What we eat is based on our DNA and we can't control that. If ponies are going to discriminate against those who have different dietry habits, they might as well discriminate against ponies who have red manes or blue coats. 

 

At least there are no humans in equestria, we do technically eat horse although there's no guarantee ponies will taste as good as the horses on Earth (JK).


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