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Don't get me wrong. I absolutly loved the season 4 premiere. But if your picky like me, there would be a few things I would change, One of them would be the episode ending too abruptly. In my opinion it needs more detail on how the Tree of Harmony is involved in all this

 

What do everypony else think? What would YOU change?

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One of the focal points of the episode was the gandering at past defeats of villains. We got to see memories of Nightmare Moon's banishment, as well as Discord being trapped in stone. They were all tales of villains from the past that had been dealt with by royalty.

 

Which leads to the question: where was Sombra?

 

I would've loved to see the story behind him! If he could somehow have been intertwined into the plot laid out, without changing it (I did love the premise of the episode) then it would've added a heap of much-desired insight into his role. It remains my only qualm about the episode, because it's pretty much Hasbro saying that Sombra was a one-hit wonder. A great shame, because he held a lot of promise.

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Honestly, I'd make it a three parter I think. There were many awesome concepts (Twilight having to act like a leader, her friends having to come to terms with her being a princess for instance) in this episode but I feel like they didn't have enough time to play out. With a bit more time they could have been done a lot better. The third act also felt a bit rushed. But these first two episodes set up the coming season really well and they were still highly enjoyable so I'm satisfied. Also, I would have added a villain but that's just personal preference (I'd like a villain who pops up continuously throughout one season,that could still be done though. Or maybe in season 5 laugh.png) .

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Make the Everfree Forest segment longer. The pacing went from great to crap once they set foot in there, and the Mane Six argued/made up in the span of what felt like two minutes. That scene could've used much more fleshing out to give it the proper emotional punch it needed.

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The pacing. Its just too awkwardly paced, especially the part where Twilight was told to go back to Ponyville. I also would give the mane six a bigger role in this, considering they mostly just stood around, other than Applejack to an extent. I wouldn't make Pinkie so random, either. During the NMM flashback they were supposed to not know Twilight was there, but it seemed like they did. They took pauses in the conversation which doesn't make sense since Twilight isn't supposed to be there. I also thought it took Twilight too long to figure out that it was a flashback.

 

I don't think I would change anything else.

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The one and only thing I would have changed regarding the premiere is the flashback between the princesses and Discord. It was incredibly, incredibly disappointing that they didn't have an actual fight, whatsoever. Now granted, the seeds he planted at the time that we didn't find out about until later was a great plot device, and obviously him thinking a few steps ahead of his opponents and plotting his later escape should something go wrong and he be captured was awesome, but, come on tongue.png He already got one-hit KO'd in the future by the Mane Six, did he really need to have it happen again so quickly way back when?

 

'Not important to the plot, limited time in the episode', yadda yadda yadda, I know. It's just that, this was something I've been hoping they would show on screen ever since the Return of Harmony aired, so, it's just very disappointing.

 

Especially, since, you know, NIGHTMARE MOON AND CELESTIA GOT AT LEAST A FULL MINUTE OF FLYING AROUND AND FIGHTING. </3

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I was expecting a brief explanation of why they were turning Discord to stone, but I never got one.  Yeah, the world was messed up, but I never showed anything leading up to that.  I guess I would just have them put a little more of a story there.

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The episode was pure genious,but I wish it had a real villain.

 

Yeah,sure Discord planted a bunch of seeds,but I was hoping for a different or new villain.

 

Not a recycled villain.

 

But,then again,there will be time for that in the next episodes.

 

Other than that,I can't think of anything else I would change.

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I'm not really sure frankly, i'd almost say it needed more time to slow a few things down, but idk if thats really possible ;p.

 

Maybe take out the flashbacks, except for maybe the tree of harmony, and make the other flashbacks part of another episode? Don't get me wrong, i loved them, but its really the only thing i can think of that could be cut in order to better the episode, and be used again later. All while making the episode still work.

 

Frankly i dunno though, besides the pacing more towards the end the episode was quite good.

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-moar twilight scepter

-tone down pinkie's randomness a bit

-make discord's fourth wall breaking more subtle

-moar spike

-less.... Alicorny. Blegh

 

This show generally could use a bit of subtlety.

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I would change the flashbacks. Give them proper time to develop the story they are telling. Each one could have been an episode on their own.

 

^This^

 

TBH the one thing that MLP takes to long on is getting things started without ever actually getting to the point. By the time they do get to the point, they've already pretty much resolved it and the climax of the episode(s) is left at a piddly few seconds moment.

 

Things like NMM are spoken of like it took a while to resolve, and its shown that the battle with discord was more (Celestia and Luna were both already pretty beat up by the time they found the tree)

But at best we've had only tiny glimpses.

 

 

We already know the characters, and the settings. Theres really no need for these long setups just to end it so fast. Even less so in a "kids" show.

 

The ending was also very anti climactic in finding out what really was going on overall, and that they were all right at the get go.. While an interesting twist, it very much kills the reform part with discord in his willingness to put everypony at such risk knowingly.

 

Thats all pretty par for MLP though tbh.

But its why I like the comics, though short, they pulled the stories along nicely and didn't resolve so quick as to just be getting to the point when it wraps up and ends...

 

While I hope they never run the entire series on a linear point (example being say, "How I met your mother". was great, but now its just dragging with no direction and grasping at straws), making each individual season build up could work, and leave a reasonable end to the series at each ones finale should the day come.

 

 

On another note, loved discords in jokes as usual :P

Hoping Twilight would break out into song and such...

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I have to agree with Digibrony and Tom Oliver in their review of the episode: the point where Twilight is told by her friends to remain behind in Ponyville felt poorly executed. I remember thinking how abruptly the sequence of events flowed in relation to the rest of the episode's tight pacing: Twilight is told to go home, meets with Discord in Ponyville, is immediately convinced she needs to get to her friends, and rushes back into the Everfree. In an episode packed with neatly constructed bridges, this one felt flimsy at best. While I think the pacing recovered nicely, I rather think some other approach to splitting up Twilight and her friends, even if only for a short period, would have been preferred. Bear in mind that I believe the ponies' concerns about Twilight are perfectly rational -- but since when has dividing the Mane Six ever worked out well for our heroic girls? It felt like a lesson the Mane Six should have already learned as far back as "The Return of Harmony."

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I'm with Chaotic-spoon. I have no problems till Twilight returns to Ponyville. I honestly think Meghan missed a huge opportunity to have Twilight stand her ground and not leave her friends. She didn't need Discord to tell her what to do and it's not in her nature to give in so fast.

Have Tabitha redo her Luna/NMM lines. Luna sounded too much like Rarity and NMM sounded too much like Luna. Also, have her do the Royal Voice when she says "and that princess shall be ME!"

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