Hive King 2,001 May 12, 2014 Share May 12, 2014 (edited) Upon seeing Princess Twilight, I now give you my improved Power Level list. Note, this uses DBZ logic Earth Ponies(Average): 9 Pegasi(Average): 7 Unicorns(Average): 12 Twilight Sparkle(Unicorn): 80 Twilight Sparkle(Alicorn): 100 Twilight Sparkle(Magic Absorbed): 325 Celestia: 100 Luna: 95 Cadence: 30 Elements of Harmony: 300 Trixie: 20 Discord: 18 Discord(Warping Magic): 260 Sunset Shimmer: 85 Sunset Shimmer(Demon Form): 270 Trixie(Alicorn Amulet): 115 Nightmare Moon: 115 Queen Chrysalis: 50 Queen Chrysalis(Love Absorbed): 120 Sombra: 110 Sombra(Shadow Form): 60 Plunder Seeds: 10-140 Rarity(Book): 200 Shining Armor: 40 Shining Armor(Shield): 100 (Chrysalis was exhausted after taking down Celestia) Applejack: 15 Rainbow Dash: 15 Rarity: 12 Fluttershy: 5 Fluttershy(Enraged): 20 Pinkie Pie: 7 Spike(Firebreath): 50 Spike: 3 Tirek(Weakened): 15 Tirek(One Pony Absorbed): 27 Tirek(Unicorns Absorbed): 125 Tirek(Pegasi Absorbed): 225 Tirek(Earth Ponies Absorbed): 325 Tirek(Alicorn Magic): 719 Friendship Power: 1,000 Twilight(Alicorn Amulet): 575 Twilight(Book): 1,666 Twilight(Demon Form): 317 Feel free to debate the logic of these powers all you want Multipliers for power modifiers Alicorn Amulet: 5.75x Book: 16.66x Demon Form: 3.17x Edited May 22, 2014 by Evil Dragon Master 7 "Aren’t we the same? You know, aren’t you carrying the same mindset as I am? Just because you couldn’t bear to lose, you lost your precious partner! You really call yourself a true duelist? You’re the complete opposite of that!" -Weevil Underwood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revy ~ Two Hands 862 May 12, 2014 Share May 12, 2014 (edited) Princess Twilight power level >9000 Edited May 12, 2014 by Gamer Twilight 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastel 7,630 May 12, 2014 Share May 12, 2014 (edited) Why 719? XD Pinkie Pie has only 7? Don't forget her extreme speed and her dynamism. Rainbow Dash has 15? While she can make a sonic rainboom? Edited May 12, 2014 by Blobulle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arctic Night 884 May 12, 2014 Share May 12, 2014 I think that maybe all three pony types should be given more power if the average human has a power level of around 5. Sig made by Kyoshi. Cool things people have said about me: Never heard of him but I guess just you mentioning him is a good reason not to go anywhere near that name. (In reference to an author I suggested.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quill Waver 1,408 May 12, 2014 Share May 12, 2014 Assuming this is calculated by DBZ logic... ... how do you know for certain what the ponies can bench-press, exactly? "Time is just an illusionary factoid that all natural things are bound to. It has the power to crumble even the mightiest of mountains into little more than dust, yet if it is an illusion, why is this so? Because people waste a lot of time, only wishing they had more. Little do people realize an inescapable fact: Time governs those who wish they had more of it. By wishing you could use it better, you govern time, and you can get all the time you'll ever need." — Starfall, Quillwaver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wingnut 7,018 May 12, 2014 Share May 12, 2014 Princess Twilight power level >9000 I knew that was coming. It looks like Discord's 260 was left out of the equation of Tirek's 325 which matches the powered-up Twilight. But as others have suggested, Discord's magic is so bizarre that even though he was able to take it, he appeared unable to use it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revy ~ Two Hands 862 May 12, 2014 Share May 12, 2014 (edited) I think we should use the Fallout New Vegas SPECIAL system to determine each ponies power level. There are a total of 7 SPECIAL traits as shown below. Because the maximum power level is 'over 9000', therefore it must add up to 9000 (or just over ie 9001). The SPECIAL traits are shown below, what determines each trait is both up for debate and individual decision. Strength Perception Endurance Charisma Intelligence Agility Luck I gave Princess Twilight Sparkle >9000 as she is the most powerful in my opinion her stats are made up of the following: Strength: 250 Perception: 250 Endurance: 1750 Charisma: 1750 Intelligence: 4501 Agility: 250 Luck: 250 Edited May 12, 2014 by Gamer Twilight 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hive King 2,001 May 12, 2014 Author Share May 12, 2014 Why 719? XD Pinkie Pie has only 7? Don't forget her extreme speed and her dynamism. Rainbow Dash has 15? While she can make a sonic rainboom? Speed and power level do not correlate. Butta and Trunks prove that handily. Besides, a 1.5x advantage is enough to utterly trash your foe with no effort I think that maybe all three pony types should be given more power if the average human has a power level of around 5. That wasn't an average human, that was a working class guy I knew that was coming. It looks like Discord's 260 was left out of the equation of Tirek's 325 which matches the powered-up Twilight. But as others have suggested, Discord's magic is so bizarre that even though he was able to take it, he appeared unable to use it. Damn, I forgot that. The problem is that this lowers Tirek's gains by a lot from the ponies. Either that, or buff Twilight higher, but since it's addition, I doubt it will work. Hmm, Discord's magic works more like the magic of Babidi, Buu, or Janemba. That isn't typically included as power level, it just gives more versatility. I'm calculating as if they just gathered their energy and fired a beam at the other. Discord seems to specialize in a different echelon than that. Very well, I'll fix Discord's power to reflect this "Aren’t we the same? You know, aren’t you carrying the same mindset as I am? Just because you couldn’t bear to lose, you lost your precious partner! You really call yourself a true duelist? You’re the complete opposite of that!" -Weevil Underwood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scootalove 10,692 May 12, 2014 Share May 12, 2014 I figured that Tirek's power level would be that powerful even when he absorbed Discord's magic but didn't use it. Twilight definitely gave him a formidable fight to test their strength. Credit: Moony © Forum FAQ Forum Rules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhortac 1,475 May 12, 2014 Share May 12, 2014 >implying DBZ has any logic to begin with. 1 Feel free to add me on steam if you want to play something. Also don't be afraid to message and talk to me. I've had bad luck when I start a conversation, so I more then likely won't start one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hive King 2,001 May 12, 2014 Author Share May 12, 2014 I figured that Tirek's power level would be that powerful even when he absorbed Discord's magic but didn't use it. Twilight definitely gave him a formidable fight to test their strength. Tirek himself said they were at an impasse. It's possible he doesn't know how to use Discord's magic >implying DBZ has any logic to begin with. Greater Power Level always beats lower power level Very simple "Aren’t we the same? You know, aren’t you carrying the same mindset as I am? Just because you couldn’t bear to lose, you lost your precious partner! You really call yourself a true duelist? You’re the complete opposite of that!" -Weevil Underwood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scootalove 10,692 May 12, 2014 Share May 12, 2014 Tirek himself said they were at an impasse. It's possible he doesn't know how to use Discord's magic That is true, Discord's magic is like a mixed bag of insanity, you never know what to expect. Credit: Moony © Forum FAQ Forum Rules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revy ~ Two Hands 862 May 12, 2014 Share May 12, 2014 (edited) >implying DBZ has any logic to begin with. >No Japanese anime has any logic to begin with. Edited May 12, 2014 by Gamer Twilight 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hive King 2,001 May 12, 2014 Author Share May 12, 2014 That is true, Discord's magic is like a mixed bag of insanity, you never know what to expect. Tirek seems to like control, using magic like that where Discord himself doesn't control it(he often looks shocked at what he does) wouldn't be good for him 1 "Aren’t we the same? You know, aren’t you carrying the same mindset as I am? Just because you couldn’t bear to lose, you lost your precious partner! You really call yourself a true duelist? You’re the complete opposite of that!" -Weevil Underwood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhortac 1,475 May 12, 2014 Share May 12, 2014 >No Japanese anime has any logic to begin with. This is 110% true facts. No one can argue. 2 Feel free to add me on steam if you want to play something. Also don't be afraid to message and talk to me. I've had bad luck when I start a conversation, so I more then likely won't start one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scootalove 10,692 May 12, 2014 Share May 12, 2014 Tirek seems to like control, using magic like that where Discord himself doesn't control it(he often looks shocked at what he does) wouldn't be good for him Correct again. Being used to something where you can control it is better than not being able to control at all. 1 Credit: Moony © Forum FAQ Forum Rules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jangocoolguy 433 May 12, 2014 Share May 12, 2014 Assuming this is calculated by DBZ logic... So, it's all BS because someone's making up the rules as he goes along and the production staff has to make more stuff up to fill out the series? "It's like I found a piece of myself I didn't even know was missing!" How do you think WE feel?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quill Waver 1,408 May 12, 2014 Share May 12, 2014 So, it's all BS because someone's making up the rules as he goes along and the production staff has to make more stuff up to fill out the series? Did you even read the next bit? My ultimate question: how does he know what the ponies can lift/bench? "Time is just an illusionary factoid that all natural things are bound to. It has the power to crumble even the mightiest of mountains into little more than dust, yet if it is an illusion, why is this so? Because people waste a lot of time, only wishing they had more. Little do people realize an inescapable fact: Time governs those who wish they had more of it. By wishing you could use it better, you govern time, and you can get all the time you'll ever need." — Starfall, Quillwaver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hive King 2,001 May 12, 2014 Author Share May 12, 2014 Did you even read the next bit? My ultimate question: how does he know what the ponies can lift/bench? Physical Strength =/= Power Level We know this because the Cell Jrs, who should be able to tank a planet busting attack, were ripped apart by Gohan. Yet SSJ3 Goku's best punch can't destroy King Kai's planet. Therefore, I calculate power levels via implications of power and feats. For example, RD and AJ are above average and so I give them that. Twilight is at 100 as this is the threshold for mass destruction, seen when she had a magic burst as a filly "Aren’t we the same? You know, aren’t you carrying the same mindset as I am? Just because you couldn’t bear to lose, you lost your precious partner! You really call yourself a true duelist? You’re the complete opposite of that!" -Weevil Underwood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quill Waver 1,408 May 12, 2014 Share May 12, 2014 Physical Strength =/= Power Level We know this because the Cell Jrs, who should be able to tank a planet busting attack, were ripped apart by Gohan. Yet SSJ3 Goku's best punch can't destroy King Kai's planet. Therefore, I calculate power levels via implications of power and feats. For example, RD and AJ are above average and so I give them that. Twilight is at 100 as this is the threshold for mass destruction, seen when she had a magic burst as a filly Okay. That makes sense. I do not follow DBZ at all, even though I know a thing or two. I had to beg the question. "Time is just an illusionary factoid that all natural things are bound to. It has the power to crumble even the mightiest of mountains into little more than dust, yet if it is an illusion, why is this so? Because people waste a lot of time, only wishing they had more. Little do people realize an inescapable fact: Time governs those who wish they had more of it. By wishing you could use it better, you govern time, and you can get all the time you'll ever need." — Starfall, Quillwaver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revy ~ Two Hands 862 May 12, 2014 Share May 12, 2014 It seems a thread about ranking power levels has turned into posters showing off their own power level. Thank you I'll be here all week. No..no I won't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adorkable 2,737 May 12, 2014 Share May 12, 2014 It's been said plenty of times, I'm sure. I'm sorry, but...- I couldn't help it. ^^" But I'm intrigued by your theory, it's a very nice one! I don't know how you could rate the power level of the ponies though. However, I will have to say, I think (Alicorn) Twilight Sparkle received a higher power boost than a simple 80 to 100. Instead of 100, I think it would be fair to say at least 200, I mean this is an Alicorn we're talking about here, combined with the already mighty power of Twilight Sparkle. But, you can have it how you want to, as I said before I think what you already have down is awesome. It seems like something you would put on a trading card or something, there's a little idea, huh? ^^ Again, awesome theory. ^^ (\ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hive King 2,001 May 12, 2014 Author Share May 12, 2014 @@Adorkable, Why so? Cadence is weak as piss and she's an alicorn. I honestly don't have the alicorns as anything special, any unicorn who trains hard enough can get to their level, like Sunset Shimmer and Sombra. To be honest, I don't have Twilight too powerful. After all, she's not the be all and end all. Considering that Twilight didn't realize that Trixie was foul play until told means that there are unicorns of Alicorn Amulet Trixe's level out there. Twilight is a prodigy, but in the end, she's still young and has a lot of time to grow into her power To me, all alicorn did was add a power boost. A boost of 20 seems fair to me, Cadence probably recieved the same boost "Aren’t we the same? You know, aren’t you carrying the same mindset as I am? Just because you couldn’t bear to lose, you lost your precious partner! You really call yourself a true duelist? You’re the complete opposite of that!" -Weevil Underwood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pony.colin 156 May 12, 2014 Share May 12, 2014 I never watched much of Dbz and stopped paying attention to it a long while back. Measuring the power levels of magic would seem tricky. The only real measurement came during this finale with Twilight Vs Tirek - Twilight's base magic + 3 alicorn princess magical powers versus Tirek's absorbed magical power from all the Equestria ponies (however many that might be) + Discord's power + the mane 6 (and Spike) and if you sort of want to throw in some other variables - about how much is the royal guard (including Shining) added in total. Tirek has to draw on a lot of sources to match Twi's. How come Cadence is that low? 30 seems short. I figure she has more magical power than her husband SA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Side Bird 566 May 13, 2014 Share May 13, 2014 I think dashes, pinkie, and AJs can all be changed! I mean applejack could probably kill a stallion with one kick, that's pretty powerful! Dash can do a sonic rainbooom that's pretty powerful! And I mean, pinkie has like 28382443299 energy points that's strong x3 Don't be a dweeb ~Gilda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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