Let's talk about the phrase "general consensus" in regard to this fandom.

[GuillermoGage 246]

I'm making this thread because just a few minutes ago I was in the "Friendship is Magic" series premiere two-parter and I saw the phrase "general consensus" get used in regard to it.  In terms of it being "weird" or "cheesy" and that "well we respect it for being the starting it all".

 

... Anyone who has been on forums and stuff has probably figured out that hardly any of the even most simple opinions are totally universal. (One example could be "all of the Mane 6 are cute"*) This is true of any large fandom.

 

... but even a phrase such as "general consensus"? It doesn't even seem to make sense for this fandom. Maybe some... other fandom. One that's more "elitist".

 

* upon people who don't watch the show at a certain level of ... intensity or haven't seen some/most episodes at last a second time... certain more subtle styles/acts/instances of cuteness... they might not have noticed coming from the less "traditionally/blatantly cute Mane 6.

 

This thread is probably already a tense liability, durr hurr.

 

 

[KatonRyu 1,036]

Wait, I'm confused here. Did you create the thread to discuss the existence of a general consensus in the fandom, or to debate about the use of the phrase itself?

 

In the first case: There are certain opinions global enough to be held by the majority of the fandom, so to say there is a general consensus on some parts of the show would not be wrong.

 

If it's about the use of the phrase itself...I'm not entirely sure what to say, really. I'm not entirely sure where 'elitism' comes into it either; is it the choice of words or something?

 

Sorry if both these things are completely unrelated to what you mean, I'm just trying to get some clarity while also attempting to stay on-topic.

[GuillermoGage 246]

Wait, I'm confused here. Did you create the thread to discuss the existence of a general consensus in the fandom, or to debate about the use of the phrase itself?

 

In the first case: There are certain opinions global enough to be held by the majority of the fandom, so to say there is a general consensus on some parts of the show would not be wrong.

Mkay bruh.

Name one. Name something that you think is a general consensus in this fandom.

 

The only one that I can think of off the top of my head is "Apple Bloom is particularly cute, even among MLPFiM."

Edited February 5, 2015 by GuillermoGage

[KatonRyu 1,036]

Mkay bruh.

Name one. Name something that you think is a general consensus in this fandom.

 

The only one that I can think of off the top of my head is "Apple Bloom is particularly cute, even among MLPFiM."

 

Well, that's probably the one I would go with as well. Aside from that, I do believe a majority of bronies considers the 'Friendship is Magic' two-parter to be a bit strange compared to the other episodes, even though they still like them.

 

Other than that I have no idea about any majorities within the fandom, although I have seen a lot of threads that seem to be based on what they believe to be general consensus. (Threads like 'Name an episode you like that everybody hates)

[VitalSpark 1,830]

Name something that you think is a general consensus in this fandom.

 

Twilight Sparkle is the pivotal character in the series.

 

Applejack's parents are dead.

 

Sweetie Belle is the best singer in the CMCs.

Edited February 5, 2015 by Vital Spark

[GuillermoGage 246]

Applejack's parents are dead.

So where's there a memey image of someone opening their mouth with a big breath, and lifting up their mouth about to talk... then then the next picture shows them closing their mouth?

 

I think there's a SpongeBob or Rage Comic depicting such an expression.

But I also reckon that this communicates a similar feeling.

 

After that, I'd probably just settle for giving you a "touché."

Edited February 5, 2015 by GuillermoGage

[Ashen Pathfinder 16,165]

Hello @GuillermoGage!

 

As this topic seems more about the concept of fandom opinions rather than specific opinions on the show or an aspect of the show,I have moved this to Sugarcube Corner which is more suited for fandom-related topics like this.

 

Thank you and have a good day.

[GuillermoGage 246]

Hello @GuillermoGage!

 

As this topic seems more about the concept of fandom opinions rather than specific opinions on the show or an aspect of the show,I have moved this to Sugarcube Corner which is more suited for fandom-related topics like this.

 

Thank you and have a good day.

Yeah I didn't know which one it should go into.

 

Sometimes I openly mention that in my opening posts, sometimes I don't.

 

..So yeah, people g'head and talk about... like, the comics

 

(Now that I think about it, I actually put this in Show Discussion because I was worried that some of the "general consensus" discussion would get into squicky, bitter territory about how we think people outside the fandom see us as, debates about the very nature of the term "Brony", opinions on EqG, opinions on professionally-made documentaries about the fandom, and such. But maybe that won't utterly dominate this thread in a bad way!) 

Wait, I'm confused here. Did you create the thread to discuss the existence of a general consensus in the fandom, or to debate about the use of the phrase itself?

 

If it's about the use of the phrase itself...I'm not entirely sure what to say, really. I'm not entirely sure where 'elitism' comes into it either; is it the choice of words or something?

 

Sorry if both these things are completely unrelated to what you mean, I'm just trying to get some clarity while also attempting to stay on-topic.

It's about both.

It's about "how many general consenses do you personally think there are? And how often do you see that phrase get used where you reckon it is false?

 

Indeed, we must keep in mind that, if we have come across increasing evidence that there IS a general consensus about something, that we can differentiate between insisting that "no that is not the majority opinion!" and "well, from what I can see, it probably is the majority opinion, and I am comfortable with myself having the minority opinion"

 

Probably every single one of us has at least one minority opinion in terms of some opinion being at least 75 one way 25 another way.

[KatonRyu 1,036]

Honestly I don't know how many there are. In a fandom like this there are bound to be many conflicting opinions so there may only be a small number that is actually held by a majority. In that case, most uses of the phrase would be wrong.

 

I try to be cautious when using a phrase like 'general consensus' because I usually haven't the means to see whether or not the claim is true (or simply can't be bothered to verify it). Whenever I do use it it's either because I'm absolutely certain there is a consensus, or because I want to make myself seem more important than I am because I feel my opinion might be met with a lot of hatred.

[GuillermoGage 246]

Honestly I don't know how many there are. In a fandom like this there are bound to be many conflicting opinions so there may only be a small number that is actually held by a majority. In that case, most uses of the phrase would be wrong.

 

I try to be cautious when using a phrase like 'general consensus' because I usually haven't the means to see whether or not the claim is true (or simply can't be bothered to verify it). Whenever I do use it it's either because I'm absolutely certain there is a consensus, or because I want to make myself seem more important than I am because I feel my opinion might be met with a lot of hatred.

Well I'm pretty sure most of us here know the difference between "general consensus" and something like "univerally regarded as". "General consensus" has the disclaimer of "general" right in there.

 

We cannot possibly know exact pecentages, and most polls we can conduct will be limited to one forum, to whoever happens to see a poll and vote in it, but we can make educated guesses if at least more than half of the fandon thinks some thought.

 

Probably at least 70% of the fandom likes Hurricane Fluttershy. That's a pretty safe guess.

[KatonRyu 1,036]

Well I'm pretty sure most of us here know the difference between "general consensus" and something like "univerally regarded as". "General consensus" has the disclaimer of "general" right in there.

 

We cannot possibly know exact pecentages, and most polls we can conduct will be limited to one forum, to whoever happens to see a poll and vote in it, but we can make educated guesses if at least more than half of the fandon thinks some thought.

 

Probably at least 70% of the fandom likes Hurricane Fluttershy. That's a pretty safe guess.

 

Exactly, so the phrase 'general consensus' would be fine to use here. Still, I'm not in touch enough with the community to know as much about the other episodes. I really don't know which episodes are popular and which aren't, so I personally wouldn't say there is a general consensus about any of them because I really only have my own opinion (save the Friendship is Magic two-parter that I mentioned before.)