Alicorns are evil with their own agenda, elements in danger- I fear for Equestra

[ManaMinori 4,145]

Re-watching a few older episodes, I got to Princess Twilight Sparkle's two-parter, and there were a few things that hit me that kinda makes me worry about the future.

 

1: Are alicorns evil? Are Zebra's the true masterminds?

I ask this because, quite frankly- Zecora. She came onto the scene with that potion that could only respond to alicorn magic. Not to mention, that potion bottle looked straight up evil, with the figures with the red eyes and all on the rim. WHY did she have such a thing in the first place? And did anyone notice that Twilight used DARK MAGIC to activate the potion? Zecora straight up said that what was needed is Alicorn magic. So if Twilight used Dark magic, then that has to mean that Alicorn magic IS evil. And Zecora knew exactly what the potion did because she explained it to Twilight. So that would mean that Zecora made the potion herself, to know exactly the effects it'd have, AND was using dark magic- alicorn magic- to temper with it, as well. As scary as the thought is that Zebras can have the means to have the “all powerful” alicorn race wrapped around their hooves and in actuality, be the ones secretly in control; or that the Zebra's have a questionably sketchy agenda, messing with alicorn (dark) magic in the first place, it's actually an interesting prospect.

 

2: Celestia acting in opposition with the Tree of Harmony?

Gotta question this, because I don't think anyone else has. The Tree of Harmony has only 3 cutie mark symbols on it; sun moon, and Twilight's star. This means that she tree intended for there to be 3 alicorn princesses. But yet, there are 4. Cadance. (and likely 5, eventually, if Sunset Shimmer becomes one) It was Celestia who took Cadance in as her niece, and set her up to be a princess, knowing full well that Cadance's mark wasn't on the Tree of Harmony. Is sunbutt going against the Tree of Harmony's harmonic agenda? I mean, she has to, right? Why else wouldn't Cadance's butt mark be on the tree?

 

3: Sunset Shimmer's lack of cutie mark on the Tree implies that she won't (or shouldn't) become an alicorn princess?

Not unless sunbutt decides she should, I guess. I can just see sunbutt justifying this and doing graffiti of Sunny & Cadance's marks on the Tree. Alicorns can get away with anything, because “goddess”!

 

4: Now that the physical elements are back in the tree, this means that somepony else can take hold of them.

While most likely that somepony else will have to be 6 who embody said elements, just as the main 6 do, it's still a very real possibility that such a situation could happen, while the Mane 6 are on the scene. And seeing as how we've been witness to magic that just plain deactivates the elements entirely, I don't even think that 6 ponies who embody their powers would be required. Some bad guy with enough magic to use the EoH for evil can just waltz up, snatch them, and use them against the mane 6. (personally, I'd like to see this happen as well, with the M6 going up against the elements that drew them together)

 

5: Discord is in possession of Zecora's potion.

Again....this scares me. Really. The last person seen with the 'alicorn magic' potion that we saw Zecora hand off to Twilight, was Discord, near the end of the 2 parter. And the bottle still containing leftover potion. Guys. GUYS. A not-so reformed draconequuis chaos spirit has a dangerous dark magic “alicorn” potion. We. Should. Be. Wetting. Ourselves.

[Ziggy + Angel + Rain 11,303]

1. I'd never thought of this before...  But now it's so obvious: Zebras are clearly the puppet masters of Equestria.  Pulling the strings behind the scenes.  4. And what if a ZEBRA gets their hooves on the Elements of Harmony?  What would this mean for Equestria?  5. At least a zebra no longer possesses it.  Thank goodness for that.

 

If a zebra is not a major villain in this or later seasons, something is wrong.

[Time Shield 402]

My response is simply this:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClXAaGoT5eE

[ManaMinori 4,145]

  On 2015-05-12 at 5:02 AM, Ziggy and Angelbaby said:

1. I'd never thought of this before...  But now it's so obvious: Zebras are clearly the puppet masters of Equestria.  Pulling the strings behind the scenes.  4. And what if a ZEBRA gets their hooves on the Elements of Harmony?  What would this mean for Equestria?  5. At least a zebra no longer possesses it.  Thank goodness for that.

 

If a zebra is not a major villain in this or later seasons, something is wrong.

1: I wouldn't doubt it. I really, honestly truly wouldn't. Those zebras are NOT to be trusted. I mean, just look at the way she seems to disappear when certain alicorns are present! At the end of “The Cutie Pox” episode, and most notable, whenever the princesses, Celestia and Luna, are around, like at the end of the episode “Magic Duel”, when Celestia arrives with the delegates from Saddle Arabia, or in “Luna Eclipsed”, when Luna arrives on the scene.

4: Then we fear for our lives, and Equestria. And with Zecora living in the forest, in the actual vicinity of the tree, there's no doubt she'll be the one who gets to them, first. Heck, chances are she already has, and is doing Luna knows what with them.

5: but who knows what more a draconequuis of chaos would be able to do with it.

Edited May 12, 2015 by Nightmare Muffin

[Ziggy + Angel + Rain 11,303]

  On 2015-05-12 at 5:13 AM, Nightmare Muffin said:

1: I wouldn't doubt it. I really, honestly truly wouldn't. Those zebras are NOT to be trusted. I mean, just look at the way she seems to disappear whenever Luna and sunbutt are around! at the end of “The Cutie Pox” episode, and most notable, whenever the princesses, Celestia and Luna, are around, like at the end of the episode “Magic Duel”, when Celestia arrives with the delegates from Saddle Arabia, or in “Luna Eclipsed”, when Luna arrives on the scene.

That is suspicious how she conveniently vanishes from the scene in those moments.  The only logical explanation is that she's up to no good.  Please, discuss your theory further.

[ManaMinori 4,145]

  On 2015-05-12 at 5:11 AM, Time Shield said:

My response is simply this:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClXAaGoT5eE

there are 5 different subjects to discuss. Are you saying that that's your answer to all of them, without caring to explain WHY you think that none of them are potential concerns? =_=

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1. It's been demonstrated time and time again that the alicorns are willing to sacrifice themselves or something they love for the good, or what they perceive as good, for the ponies of Equestria. They may do something drastic or might seem morally wrong out of context--Celestia banning her sister--but in the end, they do what they think or know is righteous because they see it as their burden and responsibility. We've never heard of dark magic in the show technically if I remember correctly (it may be mentioned in the comics, but I don't know) and even though the color of Twilight's magic in that scene poses semblance to King Sombra's magic, it may just be a way to represent powerful magic that normal unicorns can't possess.

 

I don't see how Zecora was controlling Twilight. She just created a potion she probably learned of through her experience with alchemy and potion-making in her youth or from her books and she knew it called for powerful alicorn magic to give the potion its full effect. Zecora did not use Twilight's magic herself and the magic Zecora has demonstrated thus far doesn't seem to even be unicorn magic. It is something entirely different. We also don't know how other zebras are like either.

 

2. The symbols may just represent the alicorns who are tied to the Elements of Harmony of which Cadence isn't. Cadence is only tied to the Crystal Heart which is displayed on her cutie mark. Perhaps, Celestia and Luna give harmony to a more celestial (no pun intended) plane with keeping an orderly movement of the heavenly bodies while Twilight gives harmony to a more worldly plane by literally establishing harmony as the Princess of Friendship. 

 

3. No it doesn't. It's already been demonstrated that Cadence is an alicorn and she has no relation to the Tree of Harmony. But I don't think it's likely that Sunset will return to Equestria or be present in the TV show.

 

4. The usage of the Elements depends on the user being linked with them in spirit as demonstrated in the first episode and the season 2 premiere (with how Celestia says that she and Luna are no longer connected to them and so cannot use them) and the references to Celestia and Luna's use of them in the past. The Tree of Harmony likely has some sort of defense mechanism to prevent them from being taken from those who aren't worthy, otherwise it would be strange that Discord would not attempt to do so during his rule. You could say ignorance, but he knew the position of the Tree of Harmony since he planted seeds of those vines to sprout from that location and weaken it. If the Tree of Harmony started weakening and after the Elements were separated from it for some time, then it must be difficult for it to release them.

 

5. The potion isn't a reservoir for the alicorn magic to reside in. Twilight used it to change the potion from one form to another to give it its effect. Discord likely couldn't "extract" any magic from it and even if he could, its even less likely he can use alicorn magic for himself. He has his own type of chaotic magic that does not resemble any pony magic (comically demonstrated in the season 4 finale with Tirek wringing out a stream of plaid-colored magic from Discord).

Edited May 12, 2015 by estoc

[Time Shield 402]

  On 2015-05-12 at 5:20 AM, Nightmare Muffin said:

there are 5 different subjects to discuss. Are you saying that that's your answer to all of them, without caring to explain WHY you think that none of them are potential concerns? =_=

 

Because there's subjects, and then there's conspiracy theories.  You were really reaching with #5, for instance, since Discord could literally just teleport the potion from wherever it was and didn't have to be "in possession" of it.  Anyway, estoc appears to have explained things pretty well in the post just above this one, so that saves me time.

[Nature's Spell 526]

  On 2015-05-12 at 5:25 AM, estoc said:

2. The symbols may just represent the alicorns who are tied to the Elements of Harmony of which Cadence isn't. Cadence is only tied to the Crystal Heart which is displayed on her cutie mark. Perhaps, Celestia and Luna give harmony to a more celestial (no pun intended) plane with keeping an orderly movement of the heavenly bodies while Twilight gives harmony to a more worldly plane by literally establishing harmony as the Princess of Friendship.

 

3. No it doesn't. It's already been demonstrated that Cadence is an alicorn and she has no relation to the Tree of Harmony. But I don't think it's likely that Sunset will return to Equestria or be present in the TV show.

 

4. The usage of the Elements depends on the user being linked with them in spirit as demonstrated in the first episode and the season 2 premiere (with how Celestia says that she and Luna are no longer connected to them and so cannot use them) and the references to Celestia and Luna's use of them in the past. The Tree of Harmony likely has some sort of defense mechanism to prevent them from being taken from those who aren't worthy, otherwise it would be strange that Discord would not attempt to do so during his rule. You could say ignorance, but he knew the position of the Tree of Harmony since he planted seeds of those vines to sprout from that location and weaken it. If the Tree of Harmony started weakening and after the Elements were separated from it for some time, then it must be difficult for it to release them.

 

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You beat me to it! Well said! Cadence's power comes from the Crystal Heart and not the TOH. As far as the other things I'm not much for Illuminati as a way to expain things. Edited May 12, 2015 by Nature's Spell

[Mesme Rize 15,687]

 

Wow.

 

No offense, but why does a show about colorful horses lead into a discussion that i would expect from Alex Jones?

 

There is no conspiracy going on here and this show will likely never tackle it.

[long gone 8,929]

I... don't think this show has the political depth you're expecting it to have.

[Moved to Elsewhere 11,331]

I know the show can get political at times, but I don't think it gets THAT political.

[Cleverclover 1,526]

  On 2015-05-12 at 5:19 PM, Daring said:

I... don't think this show has the political depth you're expecting it to have.

 

Hah! Tell that the to the analyst community. 

[The Awesome One 1,315]

The Alicorn princesses are leaders of Equestria and on top of that, they godlike abilities to move the Sun and the Moon as well as having both horns and wings. They work tirelessly for the betterment of Equestria. Nothing more.

[ManaMinori 4,145]

  On 2015-05-12 at 5:15 AM, Ziggy and Angelbaby said:

That is suspicious how she conveniently vanishes from the scene in those moments.  The only logical explanation is that she's up to no good.  Please, discuss your theory further.

well, that;s pretty much all I got, for right now.

[cider float 2,538]

1. She was involved with Magical Mystery Cure to help Twilight become an alicorn

 

2. She knew about the Alicorn Amulet/Pendant... whatever it was called and gave advice to Twilight

 

3. Finally she lives in the Evergreen Forest of all places all alone where there are countless monstrous horrors.... why in the world would anypony do that?

 

HMMMMMMMM..... naaaaaaaaaaah

 

I could count on her being involved with a bigger plot but haven't seen the part where she was evil... she is just very wise.

[MLG4Ever 876]

This video should explian my answer

And that answer is that it's a part of the plan of the NWO!

But in all serious-ness it's simply NO!

Edited May 16, 2015 by MLG4Ever

[ManaMinori 4,145]

  On 2015-05-12 at 8:41 PM, The Awesome One said:

The Alicorn princesses are leaders of Equestria and on top of that, they godlike abilities to move the Sun and the Moon as well as having both horns and wings. They work tirelessly for the betterment of Equestria. Nothing more.

Just because they're leaders or Alicorns doesn't make them infallible. They're ponies just like their citizens, and Luna- an Alicorn leader- just as easily fell to the dark side when her emotions got the better of her. Who's to say that Celestia is incapable of doing the same? (also, that doesn't address the point that Alicorns still use dark magic, as pointed out in the OP. Only a matter of time, if it keeps up.)

[The Awesome One 1,315]

  On 2015-05-27 at 6:41 AM, Nightmare Muffin said:

Just because they're leaders or Alicorns doesn't make them infallible. They're ponies just like their citizens, and Luna- an Alicorn leader- just as easily fell to the dark side when her emotions got the better of her. Who's to say that Celestia is incapable of doing the same? (also, that doesn't address the point that Alicorns still use dark magic, as pointed out in the OP. Only a matter of time, if it keeps up.)

Luna let her jealousy get seriously out of control but I think Celestia is just way too old and wise to fall to the dark side. Also, using dark magic is fine if you're using it for a good purpose.