Do You Want MLP to Address More Serious Issues? Which? How?

[Orablanco Account 3,707]

This is a kids show. Little kiddies in grades K-3 don't understand the consept of dating

Okay, a little off-topic here, but I absolutely hate this argument. Kids are capable of understanding mature concepts if they are done well. I should know. I was a kid at one point, and I can tell you that I thought it was awesome when the stuff I watched took me seriously.

 

And you're saying that kids can't possibly comprehend dating? Yes, because the concept of love and having a crush on someone is totally beyond understanding for children. They're dumb as shit! Let's just keep to loud noises and rainbows, because they'll be confused otherwise.

Edited April 28, 2013 by CITRUS KING46

[Fluttermena 1,223]

It also promotes a monarchy they should do an entire episode dedicated to the reasons why a monarchy is better than capitalism!

 

Wait what? Monarchy and capitalism are one two completely different spectrums, they're not polar opposites, you can have a capitalist monarchy, and you can have a non-capitalist republic. It seems like you're quick to believe that people who don't agree with you are attacking capitalism, I didn't even mention the subject.

 

And don't kid yourself, "love and kindness" does not extend itself to the promotion of homosexuality.  You can love your neighbor and be against homosexuality at the same time and honestly the way that gay activists treat opposition to homosexuality constantly calling them bigots and the like is less for this message of love and kindness than anything

 

It would be beyond ridiculous for this cartoon to promote homosexuality under the guise of sending a message that we should all love and accept gay people and homosexuality.

 

So...kindness doesn't extend to treating gays kindly? You're not making any sense at all. If you're against homosexuality, then you won't be loving and kind towards homosexuals. I never said that we should promote homosexuality, I said we should promote tolerance of homosexuality.

And believe me I'm not the one being petty here. In every social issues topic you've participated in, you've been nothing but rude and insulting, you're pointing fingers and insinuating that people who don't share your values are evil.

[DR Leper Lupinstein 410]

to expand on my pro gay message. What if we could have en episode where they address death. Like Celestia teaching a character not to fear death, since death is inevitable and we must all face it one day. Also have.....THAT episode.. you know what I'm talking about. Have them talk about "where do ponies come from" They can subtly talk about sexual reproduction. Kids should be learning these things

 

I mean Rarity almost died when she was falling before Rainbow saved her

 

sexual themes need to stay out of MLP. and i too say that's something discussed between parnet and child. if they did make an episode that would be the fatal blow to the show and even the merch. then, you can kiss my little pony good bye forever. so no sex in mlp.

 

however i am in on the death scenario. because, when taught to kids constructively, it is essential that all humans learn to understand and even embrace death as a part of life. because, obviously, we're all gonna die and i'm sure even cartoon ponies die. so if they maybe made an episode where granny smith passes on and apple bloom goes through the steps to acceptance under the guidance of apple jack considering her parents are dead and i can assume apple bloom being the youngest prolly didn't know her parents very well. so bottom line death episode: ok, sexual themed episode: never.

 

now, maybe they could do an episode about accepting people who are different. maybe a young unicorn who dresses punk or goth shows up in ponyville and everyone is like ewwwwwww. even some of the  mane 6 kinda have reservations about her, too. Pinkie Pie, on the other hand wants to get to know the outsider by throwing her parties and stuff. after some effort the morose filly begins to put down her barriers a little and becomes friends with pinkie and then the mane 6 and cmc get to know her better and befriend her as well. thus, teaching that some people are different and that doesn't make them bad people or ponies.

Edited April 28, 2013 by punxundead

[Twilight Dash 28]

I do think that there should be an episode focused on homosexuality, but the only problem would be that some parents will rage and not let their kids watch the show. There could be an episode where applejack finds a girl friend but she does not want the apple family and her other friends to know because she does not know what they will think of it.

[Titan Rising 2,156]

Wait what? Monarchy and capitalism are one two completely different spectrums, they're not polar opposites, you can have a capitalist monarchy, and you can have a non-capitalist republic. It seems like you're quick to believe that people who don't agree with you are attacking capitalism, I didn't even mention the subject.

 

So...kindness doesn't extend to treating gays kindly? You're not making any sense at all. If you're against homosexuality, then you won't be loving and kind towards homosexuals. I never said that we should promote homosexuality, I said we should promote tolerance of homosexuality.

And believe me I'm not the one being petty here. In every social issues topic you've participated in, you've been nothing but rude and insulting, you're pointing fingers and insinuating that people who don't share your values are evil.

 

You're right, monarchy and capitalism can go hand in hand.  I'll give you a golf clap for that, that was just the result of me being hasty with my wording.

 

You mistake my fierceness for debate as ridicule, that's not my fault it's yours for mistaking my strong wording for hostility and taking offense when I don't mean any.

 

You can be against homosexuality and still love the person.  "Love and kindness" is not given through government by "rights" either. To say "if you're against welfare then you hate poor people!"  is ridiculous and I think you know it's ridiculous, so why say "if you're against gay marriage then you must hate gay people!"  That logic is absolutely terrible

 

Furthermore, by promoting tolerance of homosexuality you are promoting homosexuality.  By compromising on a moral you are promoting the opposite of that moral.  If you say "homosexuality is okay!" then you're promoting that people should be homosexual if they want to.  There is nothing wrong with promoting the idea that homosexuality is wrong although I will concede that often people don't know how to do so without sounding hostile or unforgiving.  But there exists an equal number of people that don't know how to take an opinion either, so...  you know, I just don't care to continue this anymore

[Derpular 90]

I wish they would do an episode like that. I think it could be really good, and also a good chance for Lyra and Bon Bon to be canon. However, people are right that it WOULD cause a lot of controversy, which wouldn't be good for the show or fun for anyone. So I'm not really sure what I think.

[Orablanco Account 3,707]

You're right, monarchy and capitalism can go hand in hand. I'll give you a golf clap for that, that was just the result of me being hasty with my wording.

 

You mistake my fierceness for debate as ridicule, that's not my fault it's yours for mistaking my strong wording for hostility and taking offense when I don't mean any.

 

You can be against homosexuality and still love the person. "Love and kindness" is not given through government by "rights" either. To say "if you're against welfare then you hate poor people!" is ridiculous and I think you know it's ridiculous, so why say "if you're against gay marriage then you must hate gay people!" That logic is absolutely terrible

 

Furthermore, by promoting tolerance of homosexuality you are promoting homosexuality. By compromising on a moral you are promoting the opposite of that moral. If you say "homosexuality is okay!" then you're promoting that people should be homosexual if they want to. There is nothing wrong with promoting the idea that homosexuality is wrong although I will concede that often people don't know how to do so without sounding hostile or unforgiving. But there exists an equal number of people that don't know how to take an opinion either, so... you know, I just don't care to continue this anymore

The welfare analogy makes no sense, not only because saying that all people on welfare are poor is overgeneralization, but because someone can think up a reasonable, non-insane argument against welfare if they don't support it. Maybe you feel it isn't the government's job to do so or you want taxpayer's money to go somewhere else.

 

Odds are if you actively don't want the government to give civil rights to a specific group, odds are you don't like that group.

 

Also, you seem to be under the impression that people choose to be gay, but that's a whole other can of worms...

Edited April 28, 2013 by CITRUS KING46

[Sanic Screwdriver 345]

The thing is, homosexuality is such a controversial topic that many people (bronies and parents included) would get upset and stop watching the show/ letting their kid watch the show and maybe even the Hub altogether. The Hub and directors of MLP would never allow this in today's society. I AM supportive of gay rights and in another topic I just recently posted in I put in my two bits on this subject. However, IF today's society would be accepting about this type of episode, I see no problem with it, and would actually see the benefits of educating today's youth and even some bronies about homosexuality, would be very helpful for today's LGBT population to be more accepted.

[Dusty Soul 2,611]

No, because it's not a point that needs to be made, I don't think shows like this should dwell into the characters preferences at all, as it would be extremely controversial.

[Shanks 10,816]

I want to make it clear that I have nothing whatsoever against gays and have said many times that the government should get out of the marriage business but an episode like that would cause a backlash 10 times worse than the Derpy controversy. Bronies and parents of the young children who watch this show represent many different political and religious views and some of them do not agree with homosexuality, that dosen't mean they all hate homosexuals just that they don't agree with homosexual behavior

[Batbrony 16,055]

BUCK.  NO.  Simply put, that would just be way too out of place for the show.  The thing is, with a children's program like MLP, they can still teach great lessons about subjects such as acceptance of others who are different without getting too specific.  Heck, they already did that episode as far as I'm concerned in "Bridle Gossip".  Sure, race may have been the closer real-world equivalent in that episode, but it was still a general enough lesson about acceptance that kids could learn to apply it on all sorts of levels.

 

Simply put, KEEP POLITICS OUT OF MY PONIES!!!!!!!!!! 

[Mousse Moose 1]

No, the only time sexuality being the main focus point was ever ok was the Hearts and Hooves episode and the Canterlot Wedding one. Show a homosexual couple in the background and it would've been acceptable, but the special cases where sexuality could've been brought up have already been used. Besides, remember poor ol' Derpy. We don't want the same thing to happen to somepony else like Rainbow Dash, do we?

[TheFabulousPony 102]

I think that they shouldn't have a whole episode on it...but just some "not in your face" gay stuff. Like two same gender ponies living together, or at a picnic together etc. Just bits and pieces here and there throughout the show. No need to make a big deal out of it.

[Liam Snade 2]

This probably isnt a good idea, the show already promotes friendship (the whole point of the show), so i dont think that promoting 'intimate relationships' is going to boost pro gayness or good morales to homosexuality

[Captain Gobblez 55]

I'm totally not against homosexuality! But to make an episode about it in the show... I don't think that'll be such a good idea. Although the show is more and more geared towards the fandom it doesn't fit in. And IF, how would you even do that? Please don't start about all those fanfics that are about Rainbow Dash and AJ, seriously...

[Nature's Spell 526]

As the father of a fan who's in the target demographic I say absolutely no. My daughter doesn't know about sexuality and I want to keep it that way as long as possible.

Edited April 28, 2013 by Nature Spell

[Skye Starlight 223]

It might be a good idea to teach kids about this stuff so that they don't feel embarrassed or get bullied for being different, but it's not gonna happen. Just like an episode on death won't happen, even though it might be beneficial to kids to learn about it.

[Keypassion 232]

It would, at the very least, spark flamewars across the Internet.

To be fair, practically anything will cause that.

 

Now, I personally, am more right wing when it comes to politics, though I ultimately fall in the middle. I think an episode touching on the issue of homosexuality would be a good thing for the long term. Yes it will make people mad. Yes most will use it to further their own agendas of "homosexuality is wrong" and such, Yes it would probably air only once. But, those are short term things, using years as a temporal measurement. 

 

Also, it wouldn't be the first time homosexuality has been played out in a popular medium.  In Marvel's X-Men series, mutants are symbolic for homosexual people. Some people think they can be "cured" of it. And In DC comics, there is a hero by the name of Midnighter who is married, yes married, to Apollo, another male superhero. They had a wedding and everything! 

 

In short, it could help teach a future generation that homosexuality isn't a bad thing.

[Righteous Fury 344]

I think that they shouldn't have a whole episode on it...but just some "not in your face" gay stuff. Like two same gender ponies living together, or at a picnic together etc. Just bits and pieces here and there throughout the show. No need to make a big deal out of it.

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frankly the whole gay/anti-gay debate is over, the antis are losing hard

 

we don't a homosexual episode to teach kids because they're already going to be taught that

[Dreadmallon 353]

   No. I have nothing against gays, and am 100% for the legalization of gay marriage. However, an episode focused around homosexuality would be awkward, unnecessary, out-of-place, etc. Keep politics, as I believe this would be a statement for "legalizing homosexuality," out of MLP:FiM.

[GuerrierCosmique 146]

Sexuality, no matter which one, hetero, homo, bi, whatever in a kids show? You must be joking. ^^ Friendship is Magic still is targeted at kids, even if someponies may deny this fact, so why should it deal with adult/teenage themes like sexuality?

 

And if they would show it then some conservative people, fundamental christians etc. would diss the series in public for promoting homosexuality or something, like the conservative group that told parents they shall not let their kids watch Spongebob, because the titular character is gay on this friend Patrick and watching the show turns people gay. ^^                  

 

 

[Jupiter Skylight 19]

Children are learning what gay means at a younger age these days an most of them are surprisingly mature about it and think it is no big deal. Promoting love and tolerance is a good thing on a children's show I think. Shows aimed at families have shown homosexuality before. People are going to find something to complain about no matter what the episode is about. It is the same with books and movies. I don't think that is a good reason to not include gay characters. I don't think it needs to have it's own episode but I see nothing wrong with somepony having a very special somepony of the same gender. Kids can handle it believe it or not! I am pro gay rights and legalizing gay marriage. I am straight. I don't have any children but I have nieces and nephews and I am surprised by how young they knew about what gay meant but they think it is no big deal. It obviously wouldn't be sexual if there were gay ponies on the show. Just doing things that couples do like walking together, having a picnic and calling each other cute nicknames like sweetie pie and snookums.  Most kids view love in a different way than adults and would probably even think it is sweet. I don't think it would be good for it to be a mane 6 character though... as that would be too controversial. 

[duidamasterXD 9,627]

@@Beth Sycamore,

 

@@TheMarkz0ne,

 

@@CITRUS KING46,

 

Hello. We had several threads floating about related to controversial issues and how they might be dealt with in the show. Death, drugs/alcohol, homosexuality, ect. These were all topics for separate issues, but at the heart of it many would also reply discussing whether they wanted these issues to invade their generally lighthearted entertainment. Because of this, these individual topics have been merged with an older one for the purpose of discussing how these issues might come up in episodes, and the older one has been retitled to make the topic of discussion slightly more clear. Here is the place for discussing these issues, which if any we want MLP to confront, and how they might do so.   

Edited April 28, 2013 by DashForever

[Mood~Whiplash 63]

I think FiM should do a cheesy PSA style episode on drug abuse, with the main characters giving exposition on drug awareness and being dead serous the entire time, just for how utterly hilarious that would be. Bonus points for putting an 800 number to call at the end.

Edited April 28, 2013 by Solar_Karma

[Guest]

More serious issues? Hmm...well it is still a kid's show. If they find a way to address different/more serious issues while still keeping it kid friendly I think that would be awesome.