I don't think Starlight is quite as "OP" as some might think.

[Lil Pip 775]

You saw Frozen and think it’s trash while criticizing me that I don’t understand the audience? And then you want to prove to me that a Mary Sue can be accurately and objectively defined in this set of circumstances while at the same time thinking that I marked Starlight as such a character? Furthermore, you’re accusing me of failure to provide hard evidence in the same paragraph where you write why you think Starlight is great. Here’s your problem: you’re projecting too much.

 

There exists a plethora of redeemed and potentially redeemable villains that I like. You know why? They offer a completely new perspective, not a repeat of a story with a different character, but a new way of interacting with the imaginary world. It is a cheat to introduce a new character and new lore at the same time which should have been greatly appreciated in a model that is constantly fighting for minutes. The only thing Starlight does in an episode is being a vehicle for one “friendship so hard” lesson or the other. She was created as a walking, talking lessons dispenser and not as a stereotype that can provide lessons based on which kind of ordinary gal type she represents. Getting into the bad equality mindset and going on a vengeance spree because of losing a friend is not an ordinary gal stereotype. What does she do for a living? Study friendship? We had that already. What is her calling? Magic! We had that too. Oh, but she is important cause her lessons, right. Like dealing with loss of friendship has never been addressed or could have never been addressed in a way that doesn’t call for four two-parters. Waste not, want not, I say.

 

Yes, this is all subjective hate directed at such approach. How could it not be? None of us possesses hard data. So now that we have exhausted all reason, let us raise our chalices to the future, and to the perpetual butthurt! My mind is ready.

I didn't say I thought it was trash, just criticized that one thing.

Oh, which villains do you like that were redeemed? Angel bunny? lol

I wasn't making the claim starlight was lame you were. Burden of proof.

She is a stereotype though, she has some sociopathy and can be eloquent. Pretty much like an ex-cult leader.

You are just spewing back the projection stuff because you can't form a better argument or were butthurt which is why you mention butthurt later near the end.

Also you can possess hard data, you are just too lazy.

 

 

As for the audience, little girls deserve to have good character.  That means no crappy self-insert Brony fanfic dream ponies with tragic pasts. Starlight currently reeks of such a character, but if they have a plan to remedy that, then I will stop being a hater. Simple, isn’t it.

This is what I wanted you to prove, it was your assertion not mine. 

Its not impossible to prove all it takes is quoting the show. Or you know, proving little girls don't like her with some sales evidence.

You are the opinionated one, I'm simply an analytic skeptic.

Edited October 30, 2016 by Lil Pip

[Goat-kun 2,530]

Giggity Mk II

Harsh words, but are they true. You pride yourself an analytic skeptic, then why don’t you argue with data? This conversation would have been over pages ago if you would provide us with proof that one side is right and the other is wrong. If pure logic is what you seek, then practice what you preach. Meanwhile, I shall continue to argue based on my flawed methods because I am indeed a lazy person. If you want to smite me with your blazing sword of data, then do it. I would welcome such an end to the discussion.

 

A cult leader stereotype? Tell me, analytic skeptic, how many sociopathic cult leaders do we have among the girl toys these days? Lotso the bear? I implore you to recheck your data, lest I’ll have to accuse you of jumping to bad conclusions. Me, I don’t need numbers to say that’s bullshit. You are not doing Starlight any favors by describing her as Negan.

[Lil Pip 775]

Lazy hater, doesn't understand burden of proof

You make so many fallacies its ridiculous.

I never was a starlight fanboy so saying im not doing favors for her is a stupid argument.

Burden of proof, I already said, you made assertions not me, not unless you count me answering your lame questions.

April 2 2015 to now, up 38% https://www.google.com/finance?q=hasbro&ei=FFQXWLGlGISBmAGXl6O4Dw

April 5th was the air date of season 5, now to compare it to the previous season.

November 22nd (air is 23rd) 52.88 changes to 54.19 end of season a change of like 3-4%

Obviously season 5 and 6 were a success all because of Starlight Glimmer 

So have any counter-evidence?

This is my format fyi, its a good format 

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7c/Graham's_Hierarchy_of_Disagreement.svg/1280px-Graham's_Hierarchy_of_Disagreement.svg.png

Edited October 31, 2016 by Lil Pip

[Ninjaed 526]

Err... Let me find something witty... Ugh, thinking is hard...

 

One thing I'd like to precise here: Starlight doesn't have quite as many toys yet. Also, her toys are mostly catering to the younger audience, not the older one. There are a few other factors (such as being a newer character and the season 6 finale being recent) but I suppose those can be ignored as not impactful enough.

That said, I have no clue how well her related merchandise has fared compared to other characters. From what I've seen from your link though, Hasbro has been doing better since indeed.

 

Oh, that pyramid. Thought you were going to link this:

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/system/App/HomepageRow/images/000/000/002/original/poster.jpg

(more readable version)

https://meta-s3-cdn.global.ssl.fastly.net/original/1X/d55000f7718086efe6a07ad84f46951f01db2e9e.png

 

 

@Goat-kun: To be fair, an analytic skeptic may only argue back with hard data against hard data. One side providing hard data while the other doesn't cannot an analytical debate make. It's merely painting one side of a picture, possibly occulting disadvantageous facts.

 

 

Edit: linked poster wasn't entirey readable so added a readable one but without the 3 philosophers.

Edited October 31, 2016 by Ninjaed

[Goat-kun 2,530]

Giggity MK III

You’re a disappointment.

 

Financial Report 2014

Full-year net revenues increased 4% compared to 2013. Franchise Brand revenues grew 31%. Boys category revenue increased 20%, Games category declined 4%, Preschool declined 4%, Girls category grew 2%. (1) Franchise Brands’ growth was due to MTG, Monopoly, MLP, Nerf, Play-Doh, and Transformers. Entertainment and Licensing revenues increased 15%, fueled by Transformers and MLP. (2)

                                                

Girls category: growth was caused by MLP, EQG, Nerf Rebelle, and the introduction of Play-Doh Dohvinci helped offset significant declines in Furby which was in its third year in English-speaking market. (1, 2)

 

Financial Report 2015

Full-year net revenues increased 13%. Franchise Brand revenues grew 7%, but declined 2% including the impact of foreign exchange. Boys category increased 20%, Games category 1%, Preschool 17%, and Girls category declined 22%. Entertainment and Licensing revenues increased 11% with MLP as the major lifestyle brand. (3, 4)

 

Girls category: Furby presented the largest revenue decline. Core MLP revenues increased, but were offset by declines in EQG. Revenue growth in Play-Doh Dohvinci as well as introduction of Disney’s Descendants partially offset category revenue declines. Modest initial shipments for Disney Princess and Disney’s Frozen commenced during Q4. (3)

 

Financial Report 2016

Q1: Revenues increased 16%. Franchise Brand revenues grew 1%. Star Wars, Disney Princesses, and Disney’s Frozen product revenue further contributed to growth. Boys category increased 24%, Games category declined 2%, Preschool increased 11% and Girls increased 41%. Entertainment and Licensing revenue decreased 30%, since last year ended a multi-year digital streaming deal for MLP, LPS, and Transformers programming. It also fell due to comparisons to last year’s products and film revenues related to the 2014 Transformers movie. (5, 6)

 

Girls category: Q1 marked the first on shelf date for Disney Princess and Frozen fashion, and small dolls. The addition of these brands along with Disney’s Descendants and growth in Baby Alive delivered a strong quarterly revenue growth for the category. (5)

 

Q2: Revenues increased 10%. Franchise Brand revenues grew 3% (Nerf and Play-Doh posted double-digit growth). Partner Brand revenue grew 15%, driven by Star Wars, Disney Princess, and Disney’s Frozen. Boys category increased 4%, Games 8%, Preschool 5%, Girls 35%. Entertainment and Licensing increased due to Consumer Products and Digital Gaming 9%. (7)

 

Girls category: Disney Princess, Disney’s Frozen fashion, small dolls, and Baby Alive led the increase. (7)

 

MLP declined slightly in Q2 as they transitioned elements of their toy line. S06 was airing, and their fall product line featured the core cast inspired by the locations they visit. EQG mini dolls have performed very well and exceeded expectations. MLP: The Movie will introduce new characters, new worlds, and new play experiences for the MLP fan. (8)

 

Q3: Revenues increased 14%. Franchise Brand revenues grew 2% (growth in MTG, Nerf, Transformers, and Play-Doh).  Partner Brand revenue grew 19%, driven by Disney Princess, Disney’s Frozen, DreamWorks’ Trolls, and Yo-Kai Watch. Boys category increased 2%, Games 13%, Preschool declined 8%, and Girls increased 57%. Entertainment and Licensing increased due to Consumer Products and Digital Gaming by 8%. (9)

Girls category: it benefited from Disney Princess, Disney’s Frozen fashion, small dolls, DreamWorks’ Trolls, Baby Alive, and Furby. (9)

 

1.) http://investor.hasbro.com/releasedetail.cfm?ReleaseID=895301

2.) http://files.shareholder.com/downloads/HAS/3128142714x0x807963/8F11A867-2049-4DE1-AA72-3123A11E88D3/Hasbro_Q4_Full_Year_2014_Earnings_Management_Remarks.pdf

3.) http://investor.hasbro.com/releasedetail.cfm?ReleaseID=953697

4.) http://files.shareholder.com/downloads/HAS/3128142714x0x873788/4D374E70-C0A5-46D1-A459-4CFD4F77F9F9/Hasbro_Q4_and_FY_2015_Earnings_Management_Remarks_2_.pdf

5.) http://investor.hasbro.com/releasedetail.cfm?ReleaseID=965461

6.) http://files.shareholder.com/downloads/HAS/3128142714x0x886351/9CC355D1-0642-415B-BB68-CC2B756A7E6E/Hasbro_Q1_2016_Earnings_Management_Remarks_FINAL.pdf

7.) http://investor.hasbro.com/releasedetail.cfm?ReleaseID=979849

8.) http://files.shareholder.com/downloads/HAS/3128142714x0x900024/DA34F53C-1154-40F0-83A5-34E7724DC177/Hasbro_Q2_2016_Earnings_Management_Remarks_FINAL.pdf

9.) http://investor.hasbro.com/releasedetail.cfm?ReleaseID=993775

[Ninjaed 526]

Numbers and figures.

 

Um... You haven't actually stated a point there. So if it's showing the annual revenues increasing year after year, we saw that already. Mind you, I'm happy for Hasbro and all but...what did you want us to look at exactly here?

[Goat-kun 2,530]

Um... You haven't actually stated a point there. So if it's showing the annual revenues increasing year after year, we saw that already. Mind you, I'm happy for Hasbro and all but...what did you want us to look at exactly here?

I’m leaving the interpretation to our little skeptic analyst. After all, one such person should have been familiar with this data already. You’re welcome to provide assistance.

[EmeraldStar04 250]

*Noms on popcorn*

 

It's funny because Starlight is OP and stronger than Twilight and better at magic than her. Which is stupid, since Twilight is supposed to EMBODY magic. Remind me why destiny didn't choose the less likable Broly knockoff?

[BastementSparkle 20,334]

 

 

It's funny because Starlight is OP and stronger than Twilight and better at magic than her.

 

My entire original point was how that might not be as true as people are thinking.

 

 

 

Which is stupid, since Twilight is supposed to EMBODY magic. Remind me why destiny didn't choose the less likable Broly knockoff?

 

 

Twilight embodies the Magic of Friendship, it's even what she became the Princess of. She doesn't embody magic in general and has never even been shown to be the most powerful magic user. Starlight would not be a good fit for the magic element, because while she's certainly talented at the classic kind of magic, her friendship skills are awful, way worse than even what season 1 Twilight's were.

[EmeraldStar04 250]

My entire original point was how that might not be as true as people are thinking.

 

 

Twilight embodies the Magic of Friendship, it's even what she became the Princess of. She doesn't embody magic in general and has never even been shown to be the most powerful magic user. Starlight would not be a good fit for the magic element, because while she's certainly talented at the classic kind of magic, her friendship skills are awful, way worse than even what season 1 Twilight's were.

S1 Twilight was a noob. S6 Starlight is a sociopath that thinks nothing of mindcontrolling her friends because she still hates free thought.

 

As for "The most powerful", isn't that a part of Twilight's arc? She IS magic. She IS the strongest. Or was, until this girl showed up. This new character is just OP so people that only care about power will love her. *cough cough*broly.

[Ninjaed 526]

S1 Twilight was a noob. S6 Starlight is a sociopath that thinks nothing of mindcontrolling her friends because she still hates free thought.

 

As for "The most powerful", isn't that a part of Twilight's arc? She IS magic. She IS the strongest. Or was, until this girl showed up. This new character is just OP so people that only care about power will love her. *cough cough*broly.

 

Twilight didn't really think anything of it if it meant having something to write to Celestia. Rainbow Dash thought nothing of destroying an entire factory if it meant keeping Tank with her. Just saying.

 

 

Also, no. Recall when Twilight faced off against powered up Trixie, saying this magic was only castable by the best magic-users. In other words, Twilight wasn't one of those. The whole thread was dealing with this misconception you have. There's also the fact Starlight was giving her all whereas Twilight was still showing self-restraint.

One last fact, Twilight would have wiped the floor with Starlight had she had access to her alicorn magic, aka her friends. Rainbow power trumps everything. Please read the thread first, though... Don't exactly feel like repeating everything.

[BastementSparkle 20,334]

 

 

S1 Twilight was a noob. S6 Starlight is a sociopath that thinks nothing of mindcontrolling her friends because she still hates free thought.

 

So, you sort of just reinforced my point. Starlight is a terrible fit for the element of magic.Though I think calling Starlight is a sociopath is overboard honestly. She mind controlled them not because she hates free thought, but because she was overwhelmed and relied on the things she's used to using for solving her problems, magic and manipulation.

 

 

 

As for "The most powerful", isn't that a part of Twilight's arc? She IS magic. She IS the strongest.

 

 

 She's the magic of friendship, not "Magic" in general, though she is still talented at normal magic. According to "Magic Duel", Twilight couldn't perform an age spell, which was only for the "Highest level unicorns" implying Twilight was not one of them, and that was after getting her element. Becoming an Alicorn probably boosted her power further, but there's been no real proof shown that she's the ultimate authority on magic.

 

 

 

This new character is just OP so people that only care about power will love her. *cough cough*broly.

 

 

I don't really care about Starlight's power that much, it's cool to look at her magic skills I guess, but if she was a weaker character but otherwise the same I would still like her. Also, Broly was a mediocre villain in the first movie with the only real interesting thing about him being his intense sadism, and then he just became more bland in the sequels when he turned into a screaming lunatic.

[Lil Pip 775]

I’m leaving the interpretation to our little skeptic analyst. After all, one such person should have been familiar with this data already. You’re welcome to provide assistance.

I didn't know where to find all the information, and I knew I was being a bit heavy handed.

 

And just because I am an analyst and a skeptic doesn't mean I would want to find all that information anyways.

 

Yes it appears more complicated than I was suggesting. Internally I did somewhat assume toys would be up and views down, but that just led me to think that perhaps only the more faithful audience stayed.

 

But just because those seasons may be disappointing to fans expecting season 1 and 2 quality, doesn't mean the show is all bad recently, and might be doing better than previous generations (granted thats not saying much lol looking at you g3.5) 

 

But yes, frozen frozen frozen. And mini-dolls of equestria (prolly because they are cheaper for parents to buy considering the word 'mini' or perhaps the other dolls were too large for the girls to consider getting multiple of)

 

Yes, hasbro is more diverse than I thought though.

 

It is difficult to properly analyse since it may not be enough data plus its a lot to consider at once.

 

If I had to take a second guess why EQG mini-dolls were doing better, aside from their movies simply increasing it and my previous reasoning, its because the show is the show, and once you get used to it it might naturally decline. I would have to compare data with other shows, but this doesn't automatically mean the show isn't worth watching it just means far less hype. And further, EQG being more of an event would be more memorable psychologically speaking. Like we see ash ketchum still catching pokemon, barely any original fans exist but the show still lives on, then the movies will probably drag more ex-fans into it than the show of course. Its like the show is happening in the background. Also I did find potentially contrary evidence to my point about show viewership declining yesterday, and my idea about Starlight perhaps having more toys sold of her than expected seems bust, but theres not enough data regarding that to fully say(medium/low confidence its bust).

 

Also the boy category increases less in the fall and more in the spring, makes sense because they are eager to stretch their legs outside during the spring which also explains Q2 nerf growth, give or take some of my reasoning.

 

MLP seems to be under entertainment and licensing for the show and perhaps selling the brand to others to make their own goods with. They say it went down 30% due to a multi-year digital streaming deal ending. Q2 and 3 it went up 8 and 9% though due to digital gaming. Which could be teens or bronies with further activity, doubtful it'd be little girls. So that activity actually went up, which means only that people enjoy MLP not necessarily the recent seasons so can't really say anything about Glimmer from that alone.

 

Seems like the main decrease in viewership could be from the digital streaming deal ending, which could throw some disinterest into people on the internet such as teens and bronies. Which could indirectly drive their gaming revenues up because they have less means to watch the show, and less socialization through such means.

 

So it might not even be Glimmer thats the issue.

 

Now to look at Season 5/2015.

 

MLP went up 11% but girls went down, so bronies are liking it but not little girls, pretty much partially what you mentioned earlier.

 

2014 girls up 2% which means holding even with season 3? idk. But girl disinterest is easy psychologically speaking, I mentioned the movies earlier for instance. Games decreased, etc etc.

 

Brony/pegasister viewership seems to be competing with gaming, which perhaps those losing interest in the regular seasons still trying to capture the good moments or such, which means some bronies did prefer season 4, however it could've been due to the 100th I would have to find out.

 

Can't find the data too simply so won't bother. I read some other arguments, tv is dying in general, need more data on that to find out. 

 

It is overall complicated, changing from hub to discovery family might also be a factor. But it seems the losses are mostly due to the streaming deal ending, and larger interest in the more episodic EQG after that happened. Can't really Say anything about Starlight. 

 

And all the data is biased to previous seasons, but overall it is staying afloat. 

 

And because, like with the Simpsons still staying afloat for instance they rely on newcomers more over time, the same could be happening to mlp. Granted referring to simpsons and not spongebob or something else could be biased. And best I could find for Simpsons on short notice is on imdb 8.3 down to 6.5 rating average. But its still kicking. 

 

So we could presume until mlp has a legitimately better strategy and show planned, it could last for years, even if the ratings are declining. Heck ratings might decline not due to quality of the show either it could be because it gets too predictable so they are forced to mix it up and lose some viewership anyways. Its hard to find any show that does better in later years.

 

Whether or not it should happen is entirely dependent on what the trade off is.

 

No pony for a couple years until a show comes out, or yes pony and slowly declining. A business will choose the slow decline, and they still aren't doing too badly aside from their deal ending which could be old-hype related, and companies want new hype on the internet.

[Lambdadelta 1,462]

She's the magic of friendship, not "Magic" in general.

Thanks God, someone's pointing it out, this series title is My Little Pony: FRIENDSHIP IS MAGIC, it pops up everywhere and it look like people keep ignoring it.

 

Twilight is the Princess of Friendship not Princess of Magic, she finally realized her role in the end of season 4, not the best wizard in Equestria but a teacher of friendship, the best magic, and people just like they still watching season 2.

 

People dont take this show's friendship concept seriously. It may be silly sometime, but it Not Stupid.

Edited November 1, 2016 by Lambdadelta

[EmeraldStar04 250]

I didn't know where to find all the information, and I knew I was being a bit heavy handed.

 

And just because I am an analyst and a skeptic doesn't mean I would want to find all that information anyways.

 

Yes it appears more complicated than I was suggesting. Internally I did somewhat assume toys would be up and views down, but that just led me to think that perhaps only the more faithful audience stayed.

 

But just because those seasons may be disappointing to fans expecting season 1 and 2 quality, doesn't mean the show is all bad recently, and might be doing better than previous generations (granted thats not saying much lol looking at you g3.5)

 

But yes, frozen frozen frozen. And mini-dolls of equestria (prolly because they are cheaper for parents to buy considering the word 'mini' or perhaps the other dolls were too large for the girls to consider getting multiple of)

 

Yes, hasbro is more diverse than I thought though.

 

It is difficult to properly analyse since it may not be enough data plus its a lot to consider at once.

 

If I had to take a second guess why EQG mini-dolls were doing better, aside from their movies simply increasing it and my previous reasoning, its because the show is the show, and once you get used to it it might naturally decline. I would have to compare data with other shows, but this doesn't automatically mean the show isn't worth watching it just means far less hype. And further, EQG being more of an event would be more memorable psychologically speaking. Like we see ash ketchum still catching pokemon, barely any original fans exist but the show still lives on, then the movies will probably drag more ex-fans into it than the show of course. Its like the show is happening in the background. Also I did find potentially contrary evidence to my point about show viewership declining yesterday, and my idea about Starlight perhaps having more toys sold of her than expected seems bust, but theres not enough data regarding that to fully say(medium/low confidence its bust).

 

Also the boy category increases less in the fall and more in the spring, makes sense because they are eager to stretch their legs outside during the spring which also explains Q2 nerf growth, give or take some of my reasoning.

 

MLP seems to be under entertainment and licensing for the show and perhaps selling the brand to others to make their own goods with. They say it went down 30% due to a multi-year digital streaming deal ending. Q2 and 3 it went up 8 and 9% though due to digital gaming. Which could be teens or bronies with further activity, doubtful it'd be little girls. So that activity actually went up, which means only that people enjoy MLP not necessarily the recent seasons so can't really say anything about Glimmer from that alone.

 

Seems like the main decrease in viewership could be from the digital streaming deal ending, which could throw some disinterest into people on the internet such as teens and bronies. Which could indirectly drive their gaming revenues up because they have less means to watch the show, and less socialization through such means.

 

So it might not even be Glimmer thats the issue.

 

Now to look at Season 5/2015.

 

MLP went up 11% but girls went down, so bronies are liking it but not little girls, pretty much partially what you mentioned earlier.

 

2014 girls up 2% which means holding even with season 3? idk. But girl disinterest is easy psychologically speaking, I mentioned the movies earlier for instance. Games decreased, etc etc.

 

Brony/pegasister viewership seems to be competing with gaming, which perhaps those losing interest in the regular seasons still trying to capture the good moments or such, which means some bronies did prefer season 4, however it could've been due to the 100th I would have to find out.

 

Can't find the data too simply so won't bother. I read some other arguments, tv is dying in general, need more data on that to find out.

 

It is overall complicated, changing from hub to discovery family might also be a factor. But it seems the losses are mostly due to the streaming deal ending, and larger interest in the more episodic EQG after that happened. Can't really Say anything about Starlight.

 

And all the data is biased to previous seasons, but overall it is staying afloat.

 

And because, like with the Simpsons still staying afloat for instance they rely on newcomers more over time, the same could be happening to mlp. Granted referring to simpsons and not spongebob or something else could be biased. And best I could find for Simpsons on short notice is on imdb 8.3 down to 6.5 rating average. But its still kicking.

 

So we could presume until mlp has a legitimately better strategy and show planned, it could last for years, even if the ratings are declining. Heck ratings might decline not due to quality of the show either it could be because it gets too predictable so they are forced to mix it up and lose some viewership anyways. Its hard to find any show that does better in later years.

 

Whether or not it should happen is entirely dependent on what the trade off is.

 

No pony for a couple years until a show comes out, or yes pony and slowly declining. A business will choose the slow decline, and they still aren't doing too badly aside from their deal ending which could be old-hype related, and companies want new hype on the internet.

Yo, do you see this post? Do you see this data? Look at this data! Look at it and weep!

 

Also, HA! SEASON 4 FINALE REALLY IS BEST FINALE!

Twilight didn't really think anything of it if it meant having something to write to Celestia. Rainbow Dash thought nothing of destroying an entire factory if it meant keeping Tank with her. Just saying.

 

 

Also, no. Recall when Twilight faced off against powered up Trixie, saying this magic was only castable by the best magic-users. In other words, Twilight wasn't one of those. The whole thread was dealing with this misconception you have. There's also the fact Starlight was giving her all whereas Twilight was still showing self-restraint.

One last fact, Twilight would have wiped the floor with Starlight had she had access to her alicorn magic, aka her friends. Rainbow power trumps everything. Please read the thread first, though... Don't exactly feel like repeating everything.

Yes, planning to destroy a friendship and then rebuild it so you don't disappoint the God Empress or destroy a factory to spare your friend the pain of winter is 「ABSOLUTELY」 on the same level as mind-controlling five ponies and turning them into hollow unfeeling unthinking shells that obey your every whim solely because they were questioning you and coming up with better ideas than you.

 

Also, Twilight said "That magic can only be cast by high-level unicorns!" Or whatever in shock when looking at Trixie pulling it off with the Alicorn Amulet. She's surprised that Trixie's doing it, duh. And since we're speaking of high-level Unicorns, check out how OPlight just casually brings into being a high-level spell Twilight had to use stage magic to fake.

[Lil Pip 775]

Yo, do you see this post? Do you see this data? Look at this data! Look at it and weep!

 

Also, HA! SEASON 4 FINALE REALLY IS BEST FINALE!

That could be because of the internet dealio that ended I already explained.

And theres no season 1-3 data here.

[LeafFerret 3,382]

Yo, do you see this post? Do you see this data? Look at this data! Look at it and weep!

 

Also, HA! SEASON 4 FINALE REALLY IS BEST FINALE!

It's the most overrated finale I've seen. It was no different to the other finales before that.

 

It's like putting icing and fruit on a chocolate cake, you can put any topping you want, it's still chocolate cake and that what they did to that finale.