Will Trump make America great again?

[AaronMk 280]

 

Bush is the forgotten meme.

[Anneal 2,197]

While I've heard of it getting less over the years, This is the first I've heard of it actually being a thing of the past.

 

I'm a little skeptical, What source is that from? o_o

The former is done by World Values Survey, and the latter is actually done by Google. In the case of the second survey, Google based it off searches for racist slurs, namely the n-word (ending in -er, not -a), which isn't the best way to show racism (because not all people that search up a slur is racist, and not all racist search for them) , but it's fairly accurate. Washington Post has articles on both.

 

Maybe that was a bit of an overstatement, but yes, I doubt racism and sexism or even homophobia is still widespread in the West. Of course, there are places where women's rights or the rights of minorities are being threatened, like the Middle East, but saying anything that sounds remotely racist or sexist is frowned upon in American society, no matter where you are, and real prejudice is met with proper legal action. BLM and radical feminists are simply creating racism and sexism in places where there is none.

Edited November 17, 2016 by Minccino

[Member Berry 1,217]

I'm not 100% sure if he'll be able to do everything he says he wants to do, but he's hot, so yeah that's great

 

 

Uhhhhhhh..... alrighty then.

[Kings&Hooves14 616]

What exactly is wrong with nationalism? Is it wrong to believe that a government's responsibility is to its own people first and foremost?

 

It depends on how you define the word; perhaps I should have said xenophobia or extreme nationalism.

[Denim&Venöm 19,037]

No he won't. 

 

Because America never stopped being great. 

[Megalomaniac 100]

No he won't. 

 

Because America never stopped being great. 

 

I'm not American and I don't understand hysterical anti-Americanism either. They say America is a sexist racist nation that held minorities down, yet civil rights and modern feminism are both AMERICAN movements. America as Western nation did WAY more for colored people than most impoverished colored countries, where women don't even have basic rights in the first place. Weren't people like MLK or Kennedy real Americans? Don't they understand it? Without the West, and without powerful Western nations like America, the World would be a worse place to live in actually. Your very technology has a Western origin. Why people don't appreciate what they have?

 

You people should watch Paul J. Watson's video "Some cultures are better than others". It's priceless. I'd post it, but I rarely use the forum and I don't know how to link videos yet.

 

Spoiler: contrary to popular belief the West actually ended slavery.

[CharlesT 24]

People who cry hysterically about how they think Trump is 'sexist', 'racist' and 'homophobic' never fail to give me a good laugh. I mean, the man has stated many times that his intention is to bring back jobs, opportunities and lower crime rates to the inner cities.

 

He wants to restrict Islamic immigration into the US, simply because Muslims have proven - time and time again, through their predisposition towards terrorism, intolerance and crime - that they, as a whole, are completely incompatible with western civilisation. Look at Germany and Sweden, for god's sake! There are exceptions, but they are few and far between.

 

Also, what's racist about wanting illegal aliens to go back to their countries? They are ILLEGAL, i.e. their presence in a country contravenes that country's laws. If you're against deportations of illegal aliens, you're against law and order. It's really quite simple.

 

Additionally, he has discussed, many times, the threat that LGBTI people face from Islam and the like. His policies will lessen the risks present that could interfere with their quality of life. Legally, his policy has been that it should be up to the states to decide their laws on this matter. What's so bad about that? Really, at present, the charge of 'homophobia' that has been leveled against him is entirely false. Yes, Mike Pence has some strong views on the subject, but he's right on with one issue - the government shouldn't be able to force law-abiding religious citizens to serve people whom they deem to be unworthy of service. America is supposed to be a democracy, not a centralised dictatorship. Freedom of religion is hugely important in relation this concept.

 

As to the 'sexism' claim - please! "He's said mean words! Oh, the horror!"

"He's an alpha male! SO SCARY!!1!"

This isn't the 1950s anymore. People use vulgarities on a daily basis IRL.

 

Also, anyone who still thinks Hillary is a better alternative to Trump is on something. She, and her campaign, have been comprehensively exposed by WikiLeaks et al. You can ignore reality all you like, but don't you dare deny it.

 

Lastly, unrestricted free trade, endless war and globalism have failed. That's the reality of the situation. Wanting your country's resources and manpower to be put to good use, instead of allowing them to be plundered by foreign powers, isn't wrong. Wanting a good deal for your country's manufacturing, jobs and capital isn't deplorable. It's only logical.

 

Nationalism is simply common sense.

Edited November 18, 2016 by CharlesT

[Dowlphin 463]

Is anyone afraid that he will back out of the climate change agreement?

I am relieved about his stance on the matter. BTW it's called global warming. Climate change is a diversion tactic to not be nailed down on the apocalyptic claims that founded the whole thing. This idea has been born out of the same mindset of reality-immune progressive popculture that we see now having a nervous breakdown over the Trump win.

The sky is not falling. It might be tough to accept, because it's boring and people can't be a hero by doing nothing, but I'll stick with people paying attention to WikiLeaks revelations about who in politics is a lying scumbag and not those gripped by emotional fearmongering tactics. While many people were still absorbing what the evidently very corrupt media were telling them, I was doing critical study on who is lying and why and evaluating credibility of claims. I'm not gonna let that effort be devalued by people who allow themselves an opinion without the inconvenience of looking at fact.

Naturally Al Gore would talk about an "inconvenient truth" because the dumbest and thus most successful trick is to project own reality outwards and away. Like when John Oliver expressed a fear about a Donald Trump holding the nuclear launch codes, in total ignorance of the obvious and loudly stated reality of what Clinton intends to do on the world political stage.

 

The political area often labeled as "liberal" has suffered a massive credibility loss due to their own actions in a crisis. I consider myself kind of a liberal, so I don't like that.

[Sir Hugsalot 9,348]

What exactly is wrong with nationalism? Is it wrong to believe that a government's responsibility is to its own people first and foremost?

 

 

You should see what's happening in Poland thanks to nationalist organizations. Constant assaults on foreigners (or people with darker skin in general, who are often wrongly accused of being muslims). Hatespeech, antisemitism, justifying vandalism with "I do it for Poland!". This is, what's wrong with nationalism, it is more than just what You pointed out. Let it grow in USA and You'll get it same. And considering the fact Your society is far more multicultural than Polish and guns are common when THAT attitude grows in Your country much more blood will spill. 

 

You may want to believe nationalism is all great, but I saw it in true colours and here's the newsflash - it is not. It often comes along with economical ignorance and blind idealism, putting certain ideology over people's lives. I am not going to say it is good, ever. 

 

And since our ruling party is nationalist (even if officially they refuse to admit it), here is yet another newsflash - ever since they started to rule polish economy started going down the drain. This is, what I have to say about "government's responsibility is to its own people". They don't care even a bit about people. All they care about is their power, ideals and opinions. People are just a resource they shamelessly use to enforce those ideals. And oh boy, they use that "resource" a lot by dividing their own nation instead of uniting it. Lot's of hate was already brought to life in my country that way. 

 

 

This, my friend is nationalism. Not a fairytale about making country strong. You can't make country strong by isolating it, dividing people into "good" and "bad" and by giving away money blindly. Money You took from someone else, often for no specific reason other than keep Your silly social politics alive. You can't make country strong when You are totally ignorant about economics and law and instead just change it all to fit Your shallow mind. You can't make Your nation wiser by throwing away science and replacing it with ideologies and tales of "former glory" of Your country. You may say "but it is not what nationalists do!" Is it not? Well, in Poland this is *exactly* what it is. And they still have 4 years to go with that kind of shit. I *really* hope Trump won't go that way as I personally experienced aftermath of it. 

[Hocus Pocus 636]

I am a proud Trump supporter. Go ahead and call me a deplorable if you want, it doesn't bother me.

 

I think the President Elect will do a good job when he gets into office. He's being reasonable with what he wants to do about illegal immigration, the southern border, and Obamacare. He's already said he's not going to overturn Marriage Equality, and he just may leave Roe v Wade where it needs to be (But we won't know until we see his appointees for the Supreme Court), and even then it would be a long shot.

 

Not to mention that as soon as it was announced he is going to be the next President, World War 3 was averted. Russia, wants to be friends again. Syria wants peace. Israel wants to improve our relationship again. So yeah.. I do have faith in the 45th President. Whether you like it or not, history has been decided.

 

A non politician holds the highest seat of power in the free world. He completely punked the Republican party, just so he could get a shot at Presidency. More women, Blacks, and Hispanics voted for him than Romney in 2012. So the claims he is sexist, or racist, really weren't an issue with those people. So I think people need to give him a chance.

 

When he made his acceptance speech, he was clear that he was going to serve everyone. So yeah I'm ready to get to work, and do what I can bring back prosperity to this country. If that makes me a nationalist, then I guess I'm guilty. Because it's not a bad thing, despite what you've been told.

 

I don't really like Trump, but this really needed to be said.

 

People are treating him like the devil without even looking into his political choices and policies, and once you do, they're nothing absolutely bat guano insane.

[Vulcan 3,254]

I am relieved about his stance on the matter. BTW it's called global warming. Climate change is a diversion tactic to not be nailed down on the apocalyptic claims that founded the whole thing. This idea has been born out of the same mindset of reality-immune progressive popculture that we see now having a nervous breakdown over the Trump win.

The sky is not falling. It might be tough to accept, because it's boring and people can't be a hero by doing nothing, but I'll stick with people paying attention to WikiLeaks revelations about who in politics is a lying scumbag and not those gripped by emotional fearmongering tactics. While many people were still absorbing what the evidently very corrupt media were telling them, I was doing critical study on who is lying and why and evaluating credibility of claims. I'm not gonna let that effort be devalued by people who allow themselves an opinion without the inconvenience of looking at fact.

Naturally Al Gore would talk about an "inconvenient truth" because the dumbest and thus most successful trick is to project own reality outwards and away. Like when John Oliver expressed a fear about a Donald Trump holding the nuclear launch codes, in total ignorance of the obvious and loudly stated reality of what Clinton intends to do on the world political stage.

 

The political area often labeled as "liberal" has suffered a massive credibility loss due to their own actions in a crisis. I consider myself kind of a liberal, so I don't like that.

 

I'm a bit confused, Do you also believe Climate change and Global warming are hoaxes?

Edited November 18, 2016 by Odd

[RazzrRose1993 2]

He's not even  in office yet and his cabinet is shaping to be a horrendous nightmare. I'm gonna have to go with no.

[ARagY 1,152]

You should see what's happening in Poland thanks to nationalist organizations. Constant assaults on foreigners (or people with darker skin in general, who are often wrongly accused of being muslims). Hatespeech, antisemitism, justifying vandalism with "I do it for Poland!". This is, what's wrong with nationalism, it is more than just what You pointed out. Let it grow in USA and You'll get it same. And considering the fact Your society is far more multicultural than Polish and guns are common when THAT attitude grows in Your country much more blood will spill. 

 

You may want to believe nationalism is all great, but I saw it in true colours and here's the newsflash - it is not. It often comes along with economical ignorance and blind idealism, putting certain ideology over people's lives. I am not going to say it is good, ever. 

 

And since our ruling party is nationalist (even if officially they refuse to admit it), here is yet another newsflash - ever since they started to rule polish economy started going down the drain. This is, what I have to say about "government's responsibility is to its own people". They don't care even a bit about people. All they care about is their power, ideals and opinions. People are just a resource they shamelessly use to enforce those ideals. And oh boy, they use that "resource" a lot by dividing their own nation instead of uniting it. Lot's of hate was already brought to life in my country that way. 

 

 

This, my friend is nationalism. Not a fairytale about making country strong. You can't make country strong by isolating it, dividing people into "good" and "bad" and by giving away money blindly. Money You took from someone else, often for no specific reason other than keep Your silly social politics alive. You can't make country strong when You are totally ignorant about economics and law and instead just change it all to fit Your shallow mind. You can't make Your nation wiser by throwing away science and replacing it with ideologies and tales of "former glory" of Your country. You may say "but it is not what nationalists do!" Is it not? Well, in Poland this is *exactly* what it is. And they still have 4 years to go with that kind of shit. I *really* hope Trump won't go that way as I personally experienced aftermath of it. 

 

They are not just nationalists but supremacists. You are conflating those things. Nationalism itself has nothing to do with some sort of feeling of ethnic or racial superiority. You didn't see anything in its 'true colours' except thuggish supremacists doing what they do. I should also remind you that there are plenty of people who want to dissolve borders...for white people. And create a white country. 

 

Nothing about nationalism also says its time to divide people into good or bad nor isolating it, nor throwing away science, economics, law, etc. Also if we let economics run everything and didn't care about the effects I guarantee you 99% of the cultures we have would be dead within a year. We are all protectionist to some extent because we want to preserve our values, and that goes against a natural flow that would otherwise act much like natural selection. There are good reasons to do that. In my opinion, culture protection of a country should come before economic value. If you don't want to integrate properly, then you don't get to immigrate, none of these half measures or "we're all human" nonsense. We are humans with various and bright ideas and values we want to be protected, supported by our countries. We stay out of the EU because it's a horror show and a sloppy mess of power projection and Britain decided to leave even at the cost of economic and social/diplomatic power. 

 

+1 Also people seem to forget the most famous Nationalistic country in history, Nazi Germany. That is Nationalism / Social Nationalism at it's prime people, that is why it doesn't work, with the free movement of people in the modern world it is antiquated to be a nationalist country. 

You know who else was nationalist? Soviet Union, Poland, France, and anyone else who fought against the Nazis because they wanted to protect their home.. Their values superceded the gains they'd get out of accepting annexation, like an even stronger military AND an economy that isn't in shambles.

[ARagY 1,152]

You honestly believe that because a country is fighting off an Invading force, especially when that invading force's doctrines revolve around Nazism / White Supremacy / Exterminating the Jewish populace that it makes them nationalists? By your logic then a completely multi cultural country like modern day Germany got invaded and they defended themselves they instantly become nationalist? You also sound like you think the Nazi's taking them over was a good thing by saying they would get a stronger military and economy, which is kind of disturbing. 

Yes. Would it not? I believe UK and France are predominately white. It's against their values to do things like exterminating Jews. 

 

I made it sound like them being invaded was a good thing because... I acknowledged they'd get something out of it? What? So unless I say NO! NAZIS WOULD BURN EVERYTHING AND YOU WOULD HAVE NOTHING AND YOU WOULD STARVE THE END then I'm practically supporting them. Riiiiight

 

(Nationalism also got colonial independence)

Edited November 18, 2016 by ARagY

[Sir Hugsalot 9,348]

They are not just nationalists but supremacists. You are conflating those things. Nationalism itself has nothing to do with some sort of feeling of ethnic or racial superiority. You didn't see anything in its 'true colours' except thuggish supremacists doing what they do. I should also remind you that there are plenty of people who want to dissolve borders...for white people. And create a white country. 

 

Nothing about nationalism also says its time to divide people into good or bad nor isolating it, nor throwing away science, economics, law, etc. Also if we let economics run everything and didn't care about the effects I guarantee you 99% of the cultures we have would be dead within a year. We are all protectionist to some extent because we want to preserve our values, and that goes against a natural flow that would otherwise act much like natural selection. There are good reasons to do that. In my opinion, culture protection of a country should come before economic value. If you don't want to integrate properly, then you don't get to immigrate, none of these half measures or "we're all human" nonsense. We are humans with various and bright ideas and values we want to be protected, supported by our countries. We stay out of the EU because it's a horror show and a sloppy mess of power projection and Britain decided to leave even at the cost of economic and social/diplomatic power. 

 

You know who else was nationalist? Soviet Union, Poland, France, and anyone else who fought against the Nazis because they wanted to protect their home.. Their values superceded the gains they'd get out of accepting annexation, like an even stronger military AND an economy that isn't in shambles.

Poland was not nationalist back then so please don't give false "facts". There were nationalist organizations, but none of them played major role in polish politics before and during 2nd world war. In fact some, like ONR became illegal due to violence they caused. 

 

 

And I never said everything should be run by economy, so let's not go that way. But I don't think culture is more important than people's life. And problem is - those organizations think otherwise as they already have proven it by their actions in my country. Maybe they are supermasists (despite refering to themselves otherwise), but problem remains the same - they put their ideals before people's lifes. And that I will never accept, sorry. 

 

Also all those supermascists organizations started as organizations that simply "love" their country. Just saying. The second they were given freedom this is exactly what country got in return. 

[The Cynical Lone Wolf 615]

Im going to get this off my chest 

I never really cared about who the fuck is president and politics. I don't about Trump or the government in general  because I believe everyone in the U.S government is a bunch  of lying hypocritcs. I could two fucks whose president becuase America stopped being America  after 1963, IMHO. 

[ARagY 1,152]

That's an interesting way to twist my words, but the point is that people, on topic, are saying that Trump is a nationalist and that Nationalism is bad when put in practice. We live in a totally different world from the mid 1900's and many countries are now Multicultural, America is one of the biggest Multicultural countries out there and Nationalism will not work. Also when it comes to the question of ''We put Americans first'', who decides what an American is? I think we can all agree an illegal immigrant is not an American, but where is the Cut off line? Do you have to have lived in America for x amount of years, do you have to be a certain race or of certain decent, should you put someone first JUST because they meet the criteria to be American and not regard any of their other traits? 

 

An example is a Mexican could have legally been living in America for one year, Does an amazing job, is very hard working and has a family support going for the Same job that a lazy, degenerate white American is going for, but the American is of Pure American descent, White and his family are all traceable back to the founding of America, Putting Americans first would mean he gets the job over the Mexican just for the reason of his descent. Jobs, Health Care, Wellfare and all the other benefits of living in a Western country should be given to those who Work for it and shouldn't be based on if your ''American'' enough.

 

By the way, your idea of a country defending it'self from a foreign makes it become nationalist is still complete BS 

How is nationalism bad when put in practice? Iceland is nationalist, they have a committee that decides and approves on EVERY new word and you can only select from the names they decide, like in Scandinavia. Also, not every country is America. Not even close. There are about 197 others. Yes, you do put Americans first. Who is that? People who immigrated legally and are citizens. Period. Not white, not blonde, not swearing allegiance to Hitler, but citizens. Simple. That's what I'd do for my own country. I'm proudly nationalist. And it's not about JUST meeting the criteria of being an American to hurt others, but to protect the interests of the American people over the interests of people who are not American and therefore are not impactful in the nation.

 

It has nothing to do with being pure white. Pleaaase stop. If the Mexican is a citizen (or you know what, we can even add permanent residents to it too I guess) then putting America first means putting him first too. Gabriel Iglesias or whoever that guy was on George Lopez (not George Lopez) is legal, afaik. Putting America first means putting him first too.

 

 

nationalism definition

The strong belief that the interests of a particular nation-state are ofprimary importance. Also, the belief that a people who share a common language, history, and culture should constitute an independent nation, free of foreign domination.

Note : Nationalism is opposed to colonialism and imperialism.

Edited November 18, 2016 by ARagY

[ARagY 1,152]

 

You still haven't answered the question of what defines an American, if every citizen even if illegal is American then what does being a Nationalist solve? You are basically saying that it's good to be a Nationalist so other countries don't influence how your country is run, okay, in that case, do you stop listening to all other countries all together? Unless you can't tell already, the point i'm getting at is being a lone Nationalist country is pointless. Being a Nation State among a collective of other countries (such as in the EU) is more feasible.  Probably best we agree to disagree, personally I think most people these days have no idea what the difference is of being proud where your from and nationalism, big difference. 

 

If every citizen was illegal America wouldn't exist and we are getting Alaska back. And no, other countries shouldn't influence the internal politics without a request. Libya's looking real fine these days. 

 

You can have trade deals, which are part of an international policy, and you can have conduct between nations that is acceptable, but the nation itself should be ruled by the nation, not by some supranational entity. If human rights are being violated somewhere, it sucks, but unless that place is a threat to you, leave it alone. It sucks and it's wrong, sure. But we're not in a world governed by right and wrong, only by interests, which take the place of a moral right or wrong. An objective right/wrong doesn't exist. So this said I'm all for having a standard (UN for example) to measure what human rights in various places look like. But I'm not for interfering when its not to a situation we like. I'm also pretty anti-EU for various reasons which include some sort of neo-imperalistic ambition to federalise europe and destroy sovereignty. I remember just a while ago people were non-stop fear-mongering the Soviet Union for the exact same thing.

 

If you look, the primary definition there is patriotic feelings, and the only place where it mentions feeling superiority over other countries is right-wing nationalism in its example. Well then. Something's wrong with how the workings of that subdefinition plays out.

 

But yeah sure agree to disagree.

[Castle Bleck 19,363]

People who cry hysterically about how they think Trump is 'sexist', 'racist' and 'homophobic' never fail to give me a good laugh. I mean, the man has stated many times that his intention is to bring back jobs, opportunities and lower crime rates to the inner cities.

 

He wants to restrict Islamic immigration into the US, simply because Muslims have proven - time and time again, through their predisposition towards terrorism, intolerance and crime - that they, as a whole, are completely incompatible with western civilisation. Look at Germany and Sweden, for god's sake! There are exceptions, but they are few and far between.

 

Also, what's racist about wanting illegal aliens to go back to their countries? They are ILLEGAL, i.e. their presence in a country contravenes that country's laws. If you're against deportations of illegal aliens, you're against law and order. It's really quite simple.

 

Additionally, he has discussed, many times, the threat that LGBTI people face from Islam and the like. His policies will lessen the risks present that could interfere with their quality of life. Legally, his policy has been that it should be up to the states to decide their laws on this matter. What's so bad about that? Really, at present, the charge of 'homophobia' that has been leveled against him is entirely false. Yes, Mike Pence has some strong views on the subject, but he's right on with one issue - the government shouldn't be able to force law-abiding religious citizens to serve people whom they deem to be unworthy of service. America is supposed to be a democracy, not a centralised dictatorship. Freedom of religion is hugely important in relation this concept.

 

As to the 'sexism' claim - please! "He's said mean words! Oh, the horror!"

"He's an alpha male! SO SCARY!!1!"

This isn't the 1950s anymore. People use vulgarities on a daily basis IRL.

 

Also, anyone who still thinks Hillary is a better alternative to Trump is on something. She, and her campaign, have been comprehensively exposed by WikiLeaks et al. You can ignore reality all you like, but don't you dare deny it.

 

Lastly, unrestricted free trade, endless war and globalism have failed. That's the reality of the situation. Wanting your country's resources and manpower to be put to good use, instead of allowing them to be plundered by foreign powers, isn't wrong. Wanting a good deal for your country's manufacturing, jobs and capital isn't deplorable. It's only logical.

 

Nationalism is simply common sense.

 

And the idea that so many people can miss such pragmatic, proven factors is almost Nightmare Fuel, IMO.

[Ra1nbowCrasH 272]

You should see what's happening in Poland thanks to nationalist organizations. Constant assaults on foreigners (or people with darker skin in general, who are often wrongly accused of being muslims). Hatespeech, antisemitism, justifying vandalism with "I do it for Poland!". This is, what's wrong with nationalism, it is more than just what You pointed out. Let it grow in USA and You'll get it same. And considering the fact Your society is far more multicultural than Polish and guns are common when THAT attitude grows in Your country much more blood will spill. 

 

You may want to believe nationalism is all great, but I saw it in true colours and here's the newsflash - it is not. It often comes along with economical ignorance and blind idealism, putting certain ideology over people's lives. I am not going to say it is good, ever. 

 

And since our ruling party is nationalist (even if officially they refuse to admit it), here is yet another newsflash - ever since they started to rule polish economy started going down the drain. This is, what I have to say about "government's responsibility is to its own people". They don't care even a bit about people. All they care about is their power, ideals and opinions. People are just a resource they shamelessly use to enforce those ideals. And oh boy, they use that "resource" a lot by dividing their own nation instead of uniting it. Lot's of hate was already brought to life in my country that way. 

 

 

This, my friend is nationalism. Not a fairytale about making country strong. You can't make country strong by isolating it, dividing people into "good" and "bad" and by giving away money blindly. Money You took from someone else, often for no specific reason other than keep Your silly social politics alive. You can't make country strong when You are totally ignorant about economics and law and instead just change it all to fit Your shallow mind. You can't make Your nation wiser by throwing away science and replacing it with ideologies and tales of "former glory" of Your country. You may say "but it is not what nationalists do!" Is it not? Well, in Poland this is *exactly* what it is. And they still have 4 years to go with that kind of shit. I *really* hope Trump won't go that way as I personally experienced aftermath of it.

 

My personal belief, nationalism wise, is that each country should belong to its own people first and foremost, it's a bit too late for that now, what with colonialism and all that. I believe that Poland should belong to the Poles, China should belong to the Chinese, the American continent to the Native Americans, Congo to the Congolese, Pakistan to the Pakistanis, etc. It is far past that point, which I accept, but I still generally believe that a country's success comes more from it's dominate culture than from the number of separate cultures existing within it. Assimilation is vital for a nation's continued stability and success. I ultimately don't care where you come from as long as you're willing to learn the native language and work towards the betterment of the country you now call home.

[AaronMk 280]

We should make America a Republican-Democrat state again. Madison and Jefferson were totally right, we need the direct democratic institutions of Revolutionary France.

 

 

So join my fellow citizens as we remove the money'd stockjobbers and speculators from our government and enforce a government for the people by the people.

 

#RedScarves

[Discordian 6,015]

All I can say is it's hilarious the amount of anti-Trump stuff going on. People are "fearing for their futures" and crap like that but if Trump was really going to be that bad he won't last long anyway. There's always the option of impeachment or at the four year mark you just vote for someone else.

 

I find it stupid that in spite of the results people are going to go out of their way to oppose Trump instead of help him with what good he can do. It's because people are more about opposing politicians than supporting them that the country is in the shithole that it is. It's a two-way street. Politicians are the ones with the power but the citizens need to buck up and do their part too.

 

Get over yourselves and help make the country great again instead of relying on or blaming the people at the top as if they were solely responsible for it all.

[BloodDrops 762]

So do you like Trump? Or the fact that he won the elections?

 

And now what? Will he make America great for real?

 

I was wondering how many of you guys can call yourself Trump supporters?

 

If he does, at what expense?

[ARagY 1,152]

 I ultimately don't care where you come from as long as you're willing to learn the native language and work towards the betterment of the country you now call home.

Does anyone think island nations like Fiji (official English Hindi and Fijian) are doomed because of this? Not like you'd go to Fiji but theoretically if it becomes an attractive island..place..

Edited November 19, 2016 by ARagY

[Discordian 6,015]

NOPE!!! He will instead make America go bankrupt!!! Possibly...

The multibillionaire and highly successful businessman will make the country go bankrupt. Riiiiight...