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Why starlight won't be the 7th mane character (sorta) imo


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Keep in mind this is all just my opinion.

 

Anyway, the MANE reason I think starlight won't become the 7th mane character is simply due to the fact that she was introduced in season 5.

 

Not everyone keeps up with the show episode to episode.

 

Many people might have only seen season 1 or 2 or 3 or even 4. The mane characters are already established at that point. You would have to watch the beginning and end of season 5 to even know who starlight is. But that's just to know who she is. People want to know the mane characters well, which then would require even further watching season 6 to get a better idea of starlights character.

 

Which is also the reason I think we don't see her frequently in ponyville outside of episodes that focus around her. People who don't watch the show episode to episode will simply be like "Who's this?". Having her participate in all mane character activities would confuse many people. They'd be like, "Why is this new pony i'm just hearing of a mane character?".

 

 

I also think that this is why she is excluded from movie coming out. Many fans who will see the movie won't even know who she is. 

 

 

I do however think they basically have made her a mane character.

 

They just don't make it official due to the facts I said above. She already gets multiple episodes every season like all the other mane characters. She also had her own finale focus on her in season 6 and intro episodes to season 6 focus entirely on her.

 

People want to say she is like discord but shes not. She gets multiple episodes each season focusing on her character and has had season 6 intro episodes focusing on her. As well as the finale to season 6 having a mane roll.

 

 

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nah, the reason she was excluded from the movie was because they started on the movie 3 years ago, not for any plot reasons.
As for viewers not keeping up to date: that didn't stop them from making twilight a princess and destroying her house and moving her to a castle, and that's arguably MUCH bigger of a change and requires the viewer to watch prior episodes.

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nah, the reason she was excluded from the movie was because they started on the movie 3 years ago, not for any plot reasons.

As for viewers not keeping up to date: that didn't stop them from making twilight a princess and destroying her house and moving her to a castle, and that's arguably MUCH bigger of a change and requires the viewer to watch prior episodes.

I really don't think thats a bigger change, just my opinion though. Twilight is still twilight after those events. However I think thats much different than adding a whole new character entirely then making her a mane character. Many people would be completely lost as to who she is

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To be honest, it's not just the movie that shows she isn't a main character. Her lack of meaningful interactions/ friendship with the mane six outside of Twilight, shows that. Spike is much more closer to the group as an honors mane 7 than Starlight is.


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We will expect Starlight to appear in Season 7, probably with just as much major roles as she got in Season 6.

 

Unfortunately, her writers for that season have departed for this one. So her fate only rests with the new writers, or nothing!

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Yes. Offically she can never be a main character, but so far she has been characterized very well. Almost as good as the mane cast. Yes, in theory she is one of the mane 6 but she is not offically one of the main characters.

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Starlight wont be the mane 7th and she DOESNT have to, she has more potential chemistry with other character like Trixie, Spike, Discord, Twilight. The whole bring her to the mane 6 is a mistake, she should be Twilight only personal friend, not friend of the mane 5. Starlight is a great character but the whole bring her to the mane 5 wasting her potential. 

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There is a difference between wanting a lot of Starlight and wanting Starlight to be a key component in the seasons episode make up, and wanting to "consider" her a mane pony are not the same thing in my eyes....

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To be honest, it's not just the movie that shows she isn't a main character. Her lack of meaningful interactions/ friendship with the mane six outside of Twilight, shows that. Spike is much more closer to the group as an honors mane 7 than Starlight is.

One thing I gotta say about Sunset compared to starlight is, for any other problems one might have with sunset, she LEGITIMATELY feels like she has chemistry with the other 5 and has a purpose. She may interact more strongly with Twilight, but she still spends just as much time with the other 5 and shows real drive to be friends with them with some chemistry.

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spoiler warning: if that was true i dont think they'd have a whole eg episode revolving around her, not only that but from what we can tell from the season 8 animatic she teaches with the other 6 at the friendship school as the 7th teacher.

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20 minutes ago, Jeric said:

After Shadow Play, I personally consider her as a member of the Mane 7. 

Ah, but she doesn't have a necklace or a big crown thing. :D


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15 minutes ago, The Artist Formerly Known As A.V. said:

Technically, they're the Mane 9 -- Spike was already #7, Sunset basically became #8, and then Starlight came into the picture.

Sunset lives in a different universe right now and doesn't know the pony group at all outside of Twilight, Spike, and Starlight. I'd say we have two "Mane 8's" rather than a Mane 9.

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4 minutes ago, BasementSparkle said:

Sunset lives in a different universe right now and doesn't know the pony group at all outside of Twilight, Spike, and Starlight. I'd say we have two "Mane 8's" rather than a Mane 9.

 

Either way, one can't help but count Spike, Sunset, and Starlight in some capacity.


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Just now, The Artist Formerly Known As A.V. said:

 

Either way, one can't help but count Spike, Sunset, and Starlight in some capacity.

Well, in a way, yeah. Definitely Spike, and I think Starlight's earned her spot too. Sunset's earned her place as well...But that place is in the human world with those friends, which despite basically being alternate versions of the ponies, is still a different group entirely.

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40 minutes ago, CypherHoof said:

Ah, but she doesn't have a necklace or a big crown thing. :D

Neither do the CMC’s.

Edit: Ah, forgive me, I thought he said main character, not main 7.

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35 minutes ago, ShootingStar159 said:

Neither do the CMC’s.

Edit: Ah, forgive me, I thought he said main character, not main 7.

Well, I agree there. Spike, the CMC, the Apple family generally, and Starlight are major characters; but even if the Legendary Pillars get some episodes to themselves in the next season, they won't be the Mane 6 because elements...


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38 minutes ago, ShootingStar159 said:

Neither do the CMC’s.

Edit: Ah, forgive me, I thought he main character, not main 7.

This is what all matter to me, Starlight will be a main character, mane 7 or not.

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8 minutes ago, Lambdadelta said:

This is what all matter to me, Starlight will be a main character, mane 7 or not.

She seems to be at the same level as the CMC etc - a major character, who gets significantly more screen time and story lines than even the other Alicorns, There is no way to know where the story will go though. For all we know, the true reason for everything we have seen so far, Mane 6, Apples, Starlight and co, even discord.... is to give the CMC somewhere to grow into their destiny as successors to the throne.

(I don't think it's likely, but I do think there is more to the CMC's destiny than helping doggie trainers or teaching haikus; I guess what I am trying to say is that while membership of the original core group is pretty much fixed, that doesn't have to limit the other characters or the writers/storylines)


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39 minutes ago, CypherHoof said:

She seems to be at the same level as the CMC etc - a major character

She had her own finale and many episodes starting her, this definately not a coincidence. The question i want to ask is : What do they want to do with Starlight? 

48 minutes ago, CypherHoof said:

I guess what I am trying to say is that while membership of the original core group is pretty much fixed, that doesn't have to limit the other characters or the writers/storylines

The show has become Ensemble Casts show, there is no sole protagonist, and it's more awesome that way. 

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1 hour ago, CypherHoof said:

Ah, but she doesn't have a necklace or a big crown thing. :D

 

That is correct. She is not an element bearer. I'm also quite capable of making that deduction, so I already reconciled that internally. It is a specific item that doesn't factor into my final view ... or impact how I personally classify Starlight Glimmer and her role on the show.

As FiM is decidedly ensemble in nature with no explicit mention as to the classifying characters in the way some do ... 

 

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It's widely open to interpretation, with mine being hidden safely behind the fortress of Barthes, far outside the reach of any within the fandom. It's mines ... you can't have it!

You see, I've grown rather confident in my take on the show. I will share my views when asked for them, but I will no longer debate them. I no longer find that as stimulating and engaging as I once did. 

In fact, I'm going to endeavour to utilize mentions and quotes more and more for simple witticisms and general frivolity save for this final one. 


 

 

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