Bad episodes this season.

[ShootingStar159 2,156]

1 hour ago, Kyoshi said:

and Starlight being shoved into the main picture for no reason.

 

1 hour ago, Kyoshi said:

it brought up petty nonsense that the fandom doesn't even bring up anymore

"I only wish they'd left Rarity out of the book, she really doesn't belong in the book with the rest of them."

Im just going to go ahead and post what I said in the episode thread.

 

On 8/15/2017 at 7:23 PM, ShootingStar159 said:

So, I'm pretty new here, but I've already seen more than a few examples of the behavior shown in the episode. I've seen people here, and elsewhere, say that the complaints in the episode are outdated. That nobody is complaining about Fluttershy anymore, so why even mention it. I'd just like to point out that we can replace Fluttershy with someone else. Twilight got hate after No Second Prances for not learning that Starlight needed to make friends on her own from The Crystaling. Don't even get started on the Starlight hate, which I think every single one of those fandom problems could be applied to (maybe not applejack's, but I'm still not sure what that one was trying to say). The names and targets of the behaviors aren't important, the behavior is.  

As far as bad episodes go, the only one that really stand still out to me is Daring Done, but Hard To Say Anything and Honest Apple certainly had their bad moments as well.

Edited September 30, 2017 by ShootingStar159

[Kyoshi Frost Wolf 41,511]

1 hour ago, ShootingStar159 said:

 

"I only wish they'd left Rarity out of the book, she really doesn't belong in the book with the rest of them."

Im just going to go ahead and post what I said in the episode thread.

 

As far as bad episodes go, the only one that really stand still out to me is Daring Done, but Hard To Say Anything and Honest Apple certainly had their bad moments as well.

I would have said the same thing about any of the mane 6 being there for no reason as well. The only one that would have made sense is Twilight really, but I still wouldn't have seen it as the best idea. I was hoping for an episode dedicated purely to the royal sisters, just once. It only disappointed me.

By the way, I view Fame and Misfortune's 'message' as a moot point because the episode was trash, in my opinion.

[Zachary 5,521]

So far, The Only Bad episodes of this Season is

Hard to say Anything, Honest Apple and Fame and Misfortune.

[Lucartini 104]

Fame and Misfortune made me want to leave the fandom. Rule one of storytelling: Don't insult your audience!

Sonic Boom did this idea without being an ass about it.

[Attack of the Pwns 894]

I feel like "weak" is definetly a better word for the poorer episodes this year than bad. There really aren't any episodes that I couldn't find a moment to smile in.

Honest Apple was close, but I enjoyed Lily Lace and the strawberry pony (don't know her name), so smiles per minute we're still pretty good. 

Fluttershy Leans In is probably the closest thing to a bad episode this season so far. I wanted to like some of the new ponies in it, but since it paints them as the bad guys in the end, they sort of made it impossible to do so. The only real reason I won't call it bad is because the veterinarian pony was enjoyable and, honestly, I had completely forgotten this episode existed. That may make it sound bad, but truly bad episodes like Filli Vanilli, Applejack's Day Off and 28 Pranks Later stick in my memeory to this day, so any episode that can make me forget about it is just weak.

I didn't have a problem with Fame and Misfortune. I guess some parts of it were mean-spirited, but I just found so much humor in it that I found it hard to dislike.

Daring Done was,..meh. The setting was really cool, Sphinx was adorable, but plot was just...meh. Also, it potentially made Rainbow look a bit jerkish...the question that would firmly place it in a category would be "would Rainbow have reacted the same way if A.K. actually just wanted to retire from public life?" If the answer is yes, bad episode; if the answer is no, just a weak episode.

Hard to Say Anything was actually kind of cute, IMO. Feather Bangs was a bit off-putting (and those background mares can do much better than him) but overall, I enjoyed this one.

 

So, while I'd call all those episodes save Fame and Misfortune weak, I don't know if I can place any of the squarely on the same level as bad as those previously mentioned episodes. I think the writers took a few shots and missed on a few episodes this season, but I don't recall any episodes that actively made me dislike a previously introduced character (mane 6, Starlight, etc.), just a few that lacked substance.

Edited September 30, 2017 by Attack of the Pwns

[cmarston1 5,959]

Honest Apple.

But it is a Rarijack episode, so it was expected to be bad.

[LookBehindYou 13]

Hard to Say Anything, Honest Apple and Not Asking for Trouble are the ones I dislike.

Edited September 30, 2017 by LookBehindYou

[Libra 11,691]

There honestly weren't any really bad episodes. Although that could be because I have mainly one expectation (just give me pastel horses, please!) and as long as Hasbro gives me that-and they do anyways-they can do whatever they want.

[RulesofRarity 493]

Fame and Misfortune.  Imagine being a little kid and watching this episode and not understanding any of the fandom references, if you look at the episode from that perspective it's easily one of the worst of the season. The writers were once again too busy pandering to the Bronies to remember their target audience. An Honest Apple was much funnier than that pile of fanservice.  A Royal Problem was initially enjoyable but the episode had a lot of flaws that I noticed upon multiple viewings, once again Starlight Glimmer is pushed to the forefront, it's revealed that after 6 years since their initial reunion the two sisters still can't communicate(seriously they need to go) and Daybreaker being an extension of Starlight's fears instead of Celestia's fears is just horrible.

Just to clarify, I don't have an issue with the occasional bit of fanservice but to center entire episodes around nothing but fanservice is just lazy, in my honest opinion. Especially, when you are left to resort to referencing stuff that is over 4 years old. Like really, are people still claiming Fluttershy isn't assertive enough? I doubt it.

[KH7672 1,604]

36 minutes ago, RulesofRarity said:

Fame and Misfortune.  Imagine being a little kid and watching this episode and not understanding any of the fandom references, if you look at the episode from that perspective it's easily one of the worst of the season. The writers were once again too busy pandering to the Bronies to remember their target audience.

I did this before in a previous post. Unless you actually have witnessed a child's reaction to this episode, here is what I think they can easily get out of it.

On 8/13/2017 at 4:12 PM, KH7672 said:

Okay I'll consider that mindset. I'm a four to seven year old fan with the only stipulation is I've seen all the episodes. I know nothing of the fandom, I just watch this show for the characters I love.

So now I'm watching my favorite characters be bothered and tormented by the action of just putting themselves out there in book form for these ponies. (For the young fan that watches every episode: I guess those were old lessons from a lot of episodes ago.) Oh gosh if my favorite characters get this kind of treatment would the same thing happen to me if I put myself out there? Is there something wrong with me that it's so easy to be mean to me? Wait what's this? A song about how having flaws doesn't make me a bad person it's just those people not seeing me for me. Okay I feel confident about myself now to put myself out there agaon but what about those critics? How are my favorite characters going to deal with them? Wait there's nothing I can do? But, huh, hey they found some ponies that do like them and their book. Yeah who cares about those angry ponies my favorite characters are happy because at least somepony understands. I guess as long as some one likes who I am and what I do, I shouldn't let those kind of people bother me.

Tldr: "Who cares, my mom still likes me!" 

Feel free to correct my reasoning as I'm not actually four to seven years old.

[RulesofRarity 493]

1 hour ago, KH7672 said:

I did this before in a previous post. Unless you actually have witnessed a child's reaction to this episode, here is what I think they can easily get out of it.

Feel free to correct my reasoning as I'm not actually four to seven years old.

I like your take on how a little kid might have perceived this episode. For me though, the episode felt way too fanservicy to find much enjoyment in it. The only things I enjoyed about it was the song and that crazy face Rarity made. 

[Zel 56]

This season is not very good in my opinion... Probably tied with season 3 as my least favorite season of the show... for now. Maybe the final will make me revise my judgment.

"Bad episodes" : Rock Solid Friendship (just because Pinkie was annoying and badly written... it took all the fun of this episode and just make me want to stop the episode before the end), Fluttershy Leans In (boring... like really boring... no real conflict and a dream coming from nowhere), Forever Filly (boring episode with two plots as equally boring as the other), Parental Glideance (RD's parents were really annoying and the moral missed by a mile what it was supposed to be), Hard to say anything (obnoxious characters, obnoxious musical number, and the humor was not that great), Honest Apple (boring and annoying episode, the only good joke of the episode being hard rock Rarity... and even this scene isn't that great), Triple Threat (I didn't understand this episode at all... Boring, cliché, with the map thrown in for no real reason... the only redeeming quality of this episode was all of the interactions between Thorax and Ember), Campfire Tales (Scootaloo totally out of character and being annoying all the episode, only one good tale and all the plot in the real world is uninterresting and lazely solved), Daring Done (poorly written, poorly edited, an obvious vilain with an obvious reveal, a save scene really stupid, a kidnapping scene even dumber, and a waste of a good lesson and idea for an episode to instead go for a moral which didn't even really have something to do with the core of the story)

... I wrote "Bad episodes" because it was what you asked for but it's more "Episodes I didn't enjoyed or liked" instead. And for 21 episodes as of now 9 are "bad" in my opnion... which isn't really great. Especially since I really consistently liked all of the seasons of My little pony so far (with season 3 as my low point). So it's really surprising for me that I would not enjoyed in the slightest season 7.

Since I'm on the topic...

"Meh episodes" : A Flurry of emotions (a bit boring but Twillight is really good, Pinkie and the Cake twins too, and Cadance and Shining Armor have a good appereance for once), Not Asking for trouble (The lesson wasn't really clear, the story wasn't that good, but Pinkie's antics and her chemistry with the Yaks and Gummy sold this episode to me), To change a changeling (The episode didn't live up to the idea behind it, the fight scene was laughably meh and Trixie was really too obnoxious even for what she is supposed to be), A health of information (Fluttershy was good, Twillight too... The legend was not that interresting and the plot which was really neatly written was a bit too messy for me at the end and the moral was kinda lost in all of this mess for me... plus the electric bugs were kinda not really originals).

So 13 episodes out of 21 (so more than half) which I didn't like or just found it meh... So yeah, not a season for me I suppose.

"Good episodes" : Celestial Advice (Good Celestia episode, good Twillight episode too, Discord was a bit too obnoxious for my taste but I enjoyed it nonetheless), All bottled up (good moral, a believable conflict which needed to be adressed and resolved, some good jokes... The only thing that bothered me was the magic red mist which came out of nowhere and will never be see again, and Trixie being able to teleport the map... I think this story could have been written without these weird elements), The Perfect Pear (a really great story which involved some unexpected characters and it was cool to see Miss Cake having a role, and seing all of theses ponies reacting to the death of the parents of the Apples, still some scenes seemed a bit... of for my taste, like all of the scene with Bright Mac destroying a water silow which was... yeah... And the fact that Buttercup was good at figuring people cutie marks which really came out of nowhere just for the sake of tiying Apple Bloom to her mother...), It isn't the mane thing about you (I didn't expect anything from this episode and was pleasantly supprised by it... Cool moral, Rarity at her finest, a random Pinkie song and the resolution was spot on).

"Really good episodes" : A royal problem (Because it was an episode about the princesses, Celestia was great in it, Luna too, it showed us some character traits we don't usually see in regular episodes and it was cool, and seing Celestia confront her own fears to help Starlight defeat hers was great. Also really cute Twillight), Discordant Harmony (funny episode, a good moral, a good story, Flutter and Discord being neatly written, it was really a cool episode), Fame and Misfortune (good song, hilarious episode, good lesson and I really liked how the episode didn't solve for once the problem... even if the real problem was kinda solved at the same time)

Edited October 1, 2017 by Zel

[FirePuppy 735]

Bad episodes under my thoughts:

Honest Apple, Hard to Say Anything, Not Asking for Trouble (even though I'm a Pinkie Pie fan), To Change a Changeling, and (UGH!) Marks and Recreation.

In fact, I don't want to see more than TWO Mane Six-less episodes next season.

[Thrond 3,263]

Might as well add Marks and Recreation to the pile, which committed the greatest crime of being boring. 

[Ganondox 899]

Fluttershy Leans In, Hard to Say Anything, and Daring Done? are the only ones I'd say are actually bad, though there is a few others which are forgettable at best. The big I think with this season is not that it lacked bad episodes, but that it had a lot of great episodes. 

On 9/29/2017 at 9:03 PM, Star Petal said:

There is a bad episode? I'm sorry, but there hasn't been a bad episode of MLP since the Buffalo episode. Anypony who disagrees can go Hoof themselves because your opinions don't matter. 

The buffalo episode was great, you filthy heathen! Anyway, the main issue I see people taking with that episode was it was apparently racist, but the yak episodes were far more racist than that episode was. 

Edited October 2, 2017 by Ganondox

[Megas 27,640]

There's been some bumps here and there, but Honest Apple is probably the only episode I felt needed to be redone entirely