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Well, this is quite interesting, looks like the final season will have a villain team-up against the ponies. So far, we have Grogar, Sombra, Chrysalis, Cozy, and Tirek, but with Sombra likely being out of the way by the premiere’s end, we have a villain alliance that feels rather small. I expect others to join

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It seems like Skeletor's old gang but without the dankness and way too late to be relevant. You won't even be able to promote their toys, H-Bro. You bucked up. Better make more Rose Ticos and Catman Marvels.

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It's unlikely, but I still find it highly amusing that Flim and Flam were part of allegedly the "second worst timeline" for Equestria in The Cutie Re-Mark:

I doubt that they would be allied with Grogar, but they may pop up as a humorous cameo all the same. 

 

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Hey what if Grogar tricked a good character, like Spike, into joining his cause to get an inside on the Mane 6? Like Grogar bribes him with origin story and glory for his loyalty? Like in Fantastic Beasts when the bad guy charms that one kid who doesn't know his own origins, in return for loyalty? Then that's one extra to join the legion! Who knows? Maybe Spike would trick Grogar at the last second and fake his whole "betraying the Mane 6" thing; either way it would still be cool!

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6 hours ago, Steve Piranha said:

Well, this is quite interesting, looks like the final season will have a villain team-up against the ponies. So far, we have Grogar, Sombra, Chrysalis, Cozy, and Tirek, but with Sombra likely being out of the way by the premiere’s end, we have a villain alliance that feels rather small. I expect others to join

I don't really want to see more than one villains-only episode. Frenemies is enough.

Besides, the list of antagonists isn't that long anyways.

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From what we have seen so far the legion would include grogar, chrysalis, cozy, tirek and maybe sombra if he survives the premier. I don't think they will influde minor villains and antagonists like flim and flam or lightning dust. perhaps they will introduce other new villains, but it's unlikely.

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2 hours ago, Rushing cash said:

From what we have seen so far the legion would include grogar, chrysalis, cozy, tirek and maybe sombra if he survives the premier. I don't think they will influde minor villains and antagonists like flim and flam or lightning dust. perhaps they will introduce other new villains, but it's unlikely.

Well, Frenemies could have a new villain or two. We have to wait and see

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On 4/5/2019 at 12:59 PM, Cwanky said:

It's unlikely, but I still find it highly amusing that Flim and Flam were part of allegedly the "second worst timeline" for Equestria in The Cutie Re-Mark:

I doubt that they would be allied with Grogar, but they may pop up as a humorous cameo all the same. 

 

They could be bribed into joining him, and it would give them a reason to be banished to Tartarus. I mean, Wes Weasley helped Robotnik's Presidential Campaign (AOSTH: Sonic is Running) by being bribed, and after Sonic thwarted, he went back to his normal ways, though looking to be a Press Secretary.

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Other characters I want to see fall to evil includes

 

Besides the Flim Flam Brothers

Iron Will

Lightning Dust

Garble

Ahuizotl

Dr Caballeron

Suri Pollomare

Perhaps some new characters related to the Student Six in terms of species that goes rogue(Starscream anyone?)

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On 4/6/2019 at 8:30 PM, Steve Piranha said:

Well, Frenemies could have a new villain or two. We have to wait and see

Yeah, but it seems unlikely cause grogar said that he hopes that these three will be enough for his plans, which implies that he intends to continue with these guys and not bring someone else.  

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1 hour ago, Rushing cash said:

Yeah, but it seems unlikely cause grogar said that he hopes that these three will be enough for his plans, which implies that he intends to continue with these guys and not bring someone else.  

Man, and I was hoping for an evil bat alicorn :dry:


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I am glad they didn't include antagonists like flim and flam or lightning dust here, it would have been out of place and out of character. Are bat ponies truly cannon? I thought they were just costumes nightmare moon\luna created for her guards? Maybe I missed it being mentioned :mlp_confused:. Not including fluterbat which twilight created in an incident. 

On a different note I am really interested to see the dynamics in this legion, especially how tirek and chrysalis will play off each other, they didn't seem to hate each other at all and actually were ready to attack sombra when he showed up. Cozy will be the comic relief it seems, which is understandable, it suits her.  

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27 minutes ago, Rushing cash said:

I am glad they didn't include antagonists like flim and flam or lightning dust here, it would have been out of place and out of character. Are bat ponies truly cannon? I thought they were just costumes nightmare moon\luna created for her guards? Maybe I missed it being mentioned :mlp_confused:. Not including fluterbat which twilight created in an incident. 

On a different note I am really interested to see the dynamics in this legion, especially how tirek and chrysalis will play off each other, they didn't seem to hate each other at all and actually were ready to attack sombra when he showed up. Cozy will be the comic relief it seems, which is understandable, it suits her.  

Basically, that would make it this, by equalizing it with Power Rangers:

Grogar = Master Vile
Queen Chrysalis = Rita Repulsa
Tirek = Lord Zedd
Cozy Glow = Rito Revolto

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4 hours ago, Rushing cash said:

I am glad they didn't include antagonists like flim and flam or lightning dust here, it would have been out of place and out of character.

Agreed fully! This was one of my main issues with the "Siege of the Crystal Empire" comic arc when Flim/Flam, Lightning Dust, and Iron Will were recruited along side Chrysalis and pre-reform changelings to revive Sombra and free the umbrum. Chrysalis was a perfect choice, but involving those others in such a potentially world-altering plot? Doesn't make much sense and I'm glad the show avoided that.

*Just a note; I still loved the Siege arc; flaws & all~

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Don't count out Daybreaker. It's interesting that she made an appearance (however brief) in the episode. With Sombra plucking out that fear, Grogar probably knows about her now, and may be able to use that somehow.

Flim and Flam? ...naa. What's in it for them? And if that team things Cozy Glow is annoying, they haven't seen anything yet.

I'm hoping to see Caballeron again. If there's any ancient thing Grogar wants, he'd be ideal to find it. 'course... it might be more interesting if Grogar is after something and somehow Daring Doo and Cab team up to beat him to it.


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20 hours ago, BornAgainBrony said:

Don't count out Daybreaker. It's interesting that she made an appearance (however brief) in the episode. With Sombra plucking out that fear, Grogar probably knows about her now, and may be able to use that somehow.

Flim and Flam? ...naa. What's in it for them? And if that team things Cozy Glow is annoying, they haven't seen anything yet.

I'm hoping to see Caballeron again. If there's any ancient thing Grogar wants, he'd be ideal to find it. 'course... it might be more interesting if Grogar is after something and somehow Daring Doo and Cab team up to beat him to it.

Caballeron and Ahuzoitl do make sense. In fact, the bell’s location could involve Daring Do

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21 hours ago, PathfinderCS said:

Agreed fully! This was one of my main issues with the "Siege of the Crystal Empire" comic arc when Flim/Flam, Lightning Dust, and Iron Will were recruited along side Chrysalis and pre-reform changelings to revive Sombra and free the umbrum. Chrysalis was a perfect choice, but involving those others in such a potentially world-altering plot? Doesn't make much sense and I'm glad the show avoided that.

*Just a note; I still loved the Siege arc; flaws & all~

The complaints about Radiant Hope never clicked with me (:huh:); but I still agreed with the criticisms about Flim and Flam, Dust, and Will.

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1 hour ago, Steve Piranha said:

Caballeron and Ahuzoitl do make sense. In fact, the bell’s location could involve Daring Do

Now THAT is something I would love to see! As a means of keeping the bell away from Grogar they have to seek the help of the daring adventurer only to find that Ahuizotl or Caballeron are keeping it. Ahhh; awesome. :D

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The complaints about Radiant Hope never clicked with me (:huh:); but I still agreed with the criticisms about Flim and Flam, Dust, and Will.

Agreed; Radiant Hope was fine and was one of the stars of the arc IMO. Most of the complaints never made sense to me.


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I would love to see a conclusion for daring do and this villains this season, it is possible Ahuzoitl is even a monster grogar created(doubt it thou) and his bell might be something he or caballeron find, it might even lead to their redemption. But joining the other villains in the legion is far fetched I think, but we shell see. 

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I think Grogar implied that he wouldn't be adding anymore to his team when he said at the end of S9ep2 that he hopes they (Tirek, Cozy Glow, and Crysalis) are enough. Also, if Grogar wanted to add another to his team, he probably would have done it already because he needs them all to be friends for his plan to work. There's still a possibility that another villain will be added to the Legion of Doom mid-season, but I think it's unlikely.

4 villains are enough for two 23-minute episodes anyways.

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*totally not up to any shenanigans* :ithastolookpretty:

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