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@@Midnight and Shira,It likely takes time and time has been proven not to be something i can handle efficiently in my life. I generally treat people with the outmost respect and as far as Tulpas are concerned or any creation of mine i feel like a godlike angel spreading their wings behind them embracing them in a protective hug. Well that kind sounded weird i know and maybe a bit exaggerating but regardless i would treat them in a general kindness.

@@Balareth, Your friends might be understanding but like i might have said... right now i need something real, something i can touch and see... someone i can have to help me exorcise my inner demons and stuff. I just don't think a Tulpa will do... anyways... i don't think i am going to ever get to do something dedicated like that because of the stupid shit my mind tells me about Tulpas. That like... they are not there... they are not real... it's not about being crazy for heaven's sake... it's about me actually bearing more attention to the actuallity of the physical world over the mental. 

Do not be confused... i am a very imaginative person and i often see myself picturing battles, scenes e.t.c. when listening to songs or anything like that. But i would prefer actually doing something that's mutually interesting other than talking with a Tulpa. I would love per say to play games... like video games and stuff. Dunno really...

What does a Tulpa exactly do? No that's a wrong question... what CAN a Tulpa DO? Besides talk and do stuff around you... 

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@@Midnight and Shira,It likely takes time and time has been proven not to be something i can handle efficiently in my life. I generally treat people with the outmost respect and as far as Tulpas are concerned or any creation of mine i feel like a godlike angel spreading their wings behind them embracing them in a protective hug. Well that kind sounded weird i know and maybe a bit exaggerating but regardless i would treat them in a general kindness.

 

@@Balareth, Your friends might be understanding but like i might have said... right now i need something real, something i can touch and see... someone i can have to help me exorcise my inner demons and stuff. I just don't think a Tulpa will do... anyways... i don't think i am going to ever get to do something dedicated like that because of the stupid shit my mind tells me about Tulpas. That like... they are not there... they are not real... it's not about being crazy for heaven's sake... it's about me actually bearing more attention to the actuallity of the physical world over the mental. 

 

Do not be confused... i am a very imaginative person and i often see myself picturing battles, scenes e.t.c. when listening to songs or anything like that. But i would prefer actually doing something that's mutually interesting other than talking with a Tulpa. I would love per say to play games... like video games and stuff. Dunno really...

 

What does a Tulpa exactly do? No that's a wrong question... what CAN a Tulpa DO? Besides talk and do stuff around you... 

 

Oh yes, time indeed. Months, years, depending on what you plan to achieve. Tulpamancy is a lengthy project, which is why it needs careful thinking over and commitment.


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alright i see what you mean, you see, Tulpas are entities created by the mind that have own personality, but you already know that, you see, besides talk and do stuff around me, Tulpas are in certain way as i condition them, to control my own feelings and let me see, hear, touch, smell and feel what i wanna feel, they can make me feel sad or happy  no matter how depressed i am, these beings are already out of your brain, practicly ghosts, you cant play videogames with a ghost and it requires a lot ot time of improving your tulpa so it can fully interact to your enviroment, the tulpa once is 100% developed, is now tied to a mental cord cuz is a creation of your mind, you have to "cut" the mental cord and give him permission to exit your mind so you can see its manifestations and see for yourself what a Tulpa can do, practicly what it wants you cant control it sice it thinks to his own, i hope i answered your question

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@@Balareth, Yea i guess it's something that's... not exactly my style? I don't even know... i just... it's not that i don't want to... it's just... will i be satisfied with it?

@@Midnight and Shira,I don't think i can see myself what i am going to do in the next few days... I don't know... i am not exactly a heavy planner but i do have a project i am deathly dedicated into. In any way if i did this i would really do this... and would definately not stop.

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@@Balareth, Yea i guess it's something that's... not exactly my style? I don't even know... i just... it's not that i don't want to... it's just... will i be satisfied with it?

 

@@Midnight and Shira,I don't think i can see myself what i am going to do in the next few days... I don't know... i am not exactly a heavy planner but i do have a project i am deathly dedicated into. In any way if i did this i would really do this... and would definately not stop.

 

Don't worry, there is no need to make a decision immediately. Some ponder the project for years before coming to a conclusion. My recommendation, do as much research as you can, know Tulpamancy well, and then make your decision.


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i been over 17 years with them and i consider myself a normal person, dont worry

Even though all that stuff happened with Kair, the conflicts between the 6 rulers, etc.? I'm not trying to call you crazy, or say you're making it up, I'm just curious.

Also, do you or your tulpas mind if I use elements of that as inspiration in a story I'm writing (again, I'm not saying you made it all up)?

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So here's an interesting thought. I'm the kind of person that really enjoys a heated discussion, and likes to learn new things about everything from being on the various different sides of the fence on a topic.

 

A Tupla knows what we know, right? But they have different personalities, yes? So they might be inclined to feel differently about something than we do, despite actually knowing the same things.

 

So if the most interesting thing someone like me (Doesn't have to be me... >.>) would do is discuss religion or politics with a Tulpa, and they have a different view, and it gets heated, ... well, could it get heated if we know the same things?! Know what I'm saying?

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So here's an interesting thought. I'm the kind of person that really enjoys a heated discussion, and likes to learn new things about everything from being on the various different sides of the fence on a topic.

 

A Tupla knows what we know, right? But they have different personalities, yes? So they might be inclined to feel differently about something than we do, despite actually knowing the same things.

 

So if the most interesting thing someone like me (Doesn't have to be me... >.>) would do is discuss religion or politics with a Tulpa, and they have a different view, and it gets heated, ... well, could it get heated if we know the same things?! Know what I'm saying?

 

Debates with tulpas are often good fun, as long as taken without hard feelings! I debate with Shira all the time, though we generally hold similar views on religion and politics. It could easily get heated, because while the host may dismiss religion as nothing, the tulpa might take interest and want to hold faith in said religion.

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I just read about RFID and Digital Angel stuff. My tulpa said that the mind-control/monitoring/mark of the beast theories were BS. I don't have any experience with fact-checking stuff I read about five minutes ago (plus, I'm kind of paranoid about what is and isn't a reliable source), so (since tulpas can't know things the host doesn't), could my tulpa be wrong?

 

I know that most people don't have lives that are interesting enough to monitor, but tulpaforcers seem pretty interesting (in the bad "induced schizophrenia!!1!one" way).

 

Sorry if I caused anypony any undue stress.

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It's definitely an interesting thing to think about! I don't feel like I have any other choice but to surmise that the Tulpa remains firmly within the unconscious or subconscious mind, and in such a case, will actively remind us that we're just being paranoid. That may be the reason why they are firmly denying such a possibility. Not being they're actually false, but because deep down, we believe it's ridiculous, but our consciousness is doing the "what if" logistics and the Tulpa can see past that to the likely reality of the situation.

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"Likely" as in "taking into account all the facts that the tulpa and host are aware of, and common sense?"? I'm just playing devil's advocate, BTW.

 

you have to "cut" the mental cord and give him permission to exit your mind

Is this like the "silver cord" in out-of-body experiences linking the astral and physical bodies, or is it more like the mental cord that my tulpa can tug on to get my attention (which I recently saw as a leash around my neck, with her holding the other end)?
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these beings are already out of your brain, practicly ghosts, you cant play videogames with a ghost and it requires a lot ot time of improving your tulpa so it can fully interact to your enviroment, the tulpa once is 100% developed, is now tied to a mental cord cuz is a creation of your mind, you have to "cut" the mental cord and give him permission to exit your mind so you can see its manifestations and see for yourself what a Tulpa can do

 

That sounds really metaphysical, unless I misinterpret you. Are you stating that tulpas have the ability to physically interact with the environment once fully developed?


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A close friend of mine has a tulpa, of which I was informed of recently. Her and I have been very close with one another, and increasingly closer gradually. She told me last week or so that she had tulpa, and it keeps telling her to not stay with me, and occasionally screams and yells about it.

Any help on how to kill this thing (tulpa)?

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A close friend of mine has a tulpa, of which I was informed of recently. Her and I have been very close with one another, and increasingly closer gradually. She told me last week or so that she had tulpa, and it keeps telling her to not stay with me, and occasionally screams and yells about it. Any help on how to kill this thing (tulpa)?
 

 

Does your friend want to kill her tulpa? It's really up to her.

 

I've heard tulpae sometimes disappear if the host forgets about them. Their conscious mind gets put in a state of limbo (as it's been described to me) and they can stay that way for a long time unless the host summons them back. 


 

 

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Rainbow Dash's voice sounded exactly like her show counterpart after I watched an episode she was in. I noticed that she'd gained a bit of sass. I once wrote a story featuring her, and my friend said that she seemed sassy (that's when I added sass to the list of Rainbow's traits). She hadn't really expressed that trait until I watched the episode. Is that basically unintentional brainwashing? I asked her (before I remembered that sassy was one of her traits), and she said no, but I was curious what you guys thought.

Tiny side-question: am I the only one who finds it difficult to tell if somepony's talking about their pony tulpa or the character it's based on?

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That sounds really metaphysical, unless I misinterpret you. Are you stating that tulpas have the ability to physically interact with the environment once fully developed?

 

for experience i tell you that they are smart energy that you project, is kinda hard to explain but if you see them some object may move, but not as strong as a poltergeist

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I got a situation here, I haven't heard from my tulpa in weeks. Likely because I kept changing her form and personality so much, I just couldn't decide. Although now, I'm pretty happy to stick with Pinkie Pie form and personality.

 

That said though, anypony have any idea what's going on? Is she feeling resentful for making her change so much? Or maybe she's sleeping. Should I try Pony Hypnosis and make myself think like Pinkie? Or maybe try to make a secondary tulpa in hopes that it can develop, then help me finish making Pinkie? I was going to make another tulpa or two after finishing Pinkie and getting her developed anyways, but it looks like I might have to start early so Pinkie will get back on track =/


“I am quite sure now that often, very often, in matters concerning religion and politics a man’s reasoning powers are not above the monkey’s.” — Mark Twain

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Is your tulpa intended to be a straight up copy of Pinkie? She might be reacting to that. I'm tempted to warn you about this one horror story I heard about pony hypnosis, but I don't want to stress you out, and I don't know how common it is (it wasn't scary for the person who experienced it, but it freaked me out).

 

Can tulpas have photographic memories? And is it ethical to study/take a test with them?

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Is your tulpa intended to be a straight up copy of Pinkie? She might be reacting to that. I'm tempted to warn you about this one horror story I heard about pony hypnosis, but I don't want to stress you out, and I don't know how common it is (it wasn't scary for the person who experienced it, but it freaked me out).

 

Can tulpas have photographic memories? And is it ethical to study/take a test with them?

Well, I want her to be similar to Pinkie, because Pinkie is my favorite pony, but at the same time, I'm cool with her being whatever. Just using Pinkie as the base form/personality and I'll see how things go from there. I think she's active once again too, because I prayed hard about it, and I started feeling head pressure again.


“I am quite sure now that often, very often, in matters concerning religion and politics a man’s reasoning powers are not above the monkey’s.” — Mark Twain

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Well, I want her to be similar to Pinkie, because Pinkie is my favorite pony, but at the same time, I'm cool with her being whatever. Just using Pinkie as the base form/personality and I'll see how things go from there. I think she's active once again too, because I prayed hard about it, and I started feeling head pressure again.

 

As long as given the chance and knowledge that she can deviate, she'll be fine. Don't let everything you read freak you out.

 

Is your tulpa intended to be a straight up copy of Pinkie? She might be reacting to that. I'm tempted to warn you about this one horror story I heard about pony hypnosis, but I don't want to stress you out, and I don't know how common it is (it wasn't scary for the person who experienced it, but it freaked me out).

 

Can tulpas have photographic memories? And is it ethical to study/take a test with them?

 

Tulpas having eidetic memories is theorized but not proved. As they have so much access to the subC, it would make sense for them to easily pull things up from the past. My own tulpa, however, cannot.

 

for experience i tell you that they are smart energy that you project, is kinda hard to explain but if you see them some object may move, but not as strong as a poltergeist

 

Metaphysics it is. I won't debate that with you, for I look at tulpas psychologically.


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Can tulpas have photographic memories? And is it ethical to study/take a test with them?

As far as photographic goes, I have no Idea. Vinyl can access my memory and re-tell me some things. But others are harder to access per se. Ethical? Probably not. Useful and fucking amazing? Hell yeah!

 

V[ I have no problem helping out TC with his tests and such. As long as he pays me back later with something I want :3]

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This might seem weird.

My tulpa and I sometimes do D&S/hypnosis stuff. Logic says that I'm not on the road to submitting to the whims of my Id and becoming an impulsive, reckless risk-taker, but could continuing this be bad?

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Decided to create an Octavia tulpa tonight, after watching I am Octavia. I did finally start getting head pressure from Pinkie again, so figured since I want her to have at least one friend, that I would create Octavia so they can help each other develop. I eventually plan on having at least 4-5 tulpas for different things. Pinkie to help relieve stress and give me a good laugh, Octavia to help encourage me and encourage creativity, and maybe a Rainbow Dash tulpa for confidence.


“I am quite sure now that often, very often, in matters concerning religion and politics a man’s reasoning powers are not above the monkey’s.” — Mark Twain

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I know a lot of people have based their tulpas off of characters and so on but there is something inside of me that says that is some what bothersome... I mean sure we all ave our favorite characters and so on right. But making a tulpa based on a character or its form or whatever you know would there not be any negative connotations to that? I have been forcing some and have been doing so much more steadily the past few days just talking or "narrating" so on an so forth. I have not messed with personality or anything just kinda have been talking I have been using a orb atm but I just have been having a few questions when it comes to making a tulpa based loosely on a character or you know.


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