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Well we seem to be talking about this very thing over and over again. You think that could inspire a potential tulpa, especially since you're trying to create one? And you were forging too...   Is the location of the sensation consistent? Always the forehead?

 

Mind explaining that first bit? I didn't quite catch that.   :wacko:

 

And yeah. Always the exact same location. Pretty much dead-center.

Interesting to note is that I tried narrating a bit on my walk home today, and when I asked her if she was paying attention, there was a momentary flash of the feeling. Good sign?  :)

 

 

 

Also...what made you interested in tulpae in the first place? I'm interested to hear other people's stories. Again, my interest started when I found out about it on a message board.

 

Curiosity enlightened the cat. :lol: 

More or less, I want to know if it's actually possible. In addition, I tend to work best when around friendly faces, so always having one around would be helpful. There are other reasons, but they're all pretty small compared to those.

 

I'm actually trying to become a doctor, so having a constant "second opinion" would be very nice. ;)  

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Yea, she is who Im trying to develop as my tulpa, those were the reasons I chose her, being at college for freshman year, figured her whole kindness, caring nurturing personality would be the best for me.

 

Edit: stupid thing not quoting properly.

 

 

Well Fluttershy is one of the characters I absolutely adore and her voice actress Andrea Libman is an absolute sweetheart! I would love to hear what you think of Fluttershy and why you chose her as your choice of tulpa, beyond the reasons you've already provided, of course. :) Tell you what, if you do that, you can ask about any one of my tulpae and I'll tell you about them!

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Well Fluttershy is one of the characters I absolutely adore and her voice actress Andrea Libman is an absolute sweetheart! I would love to hear what you think of Fluttershy and why you chose her as your choice of tulpa, beyond the reasons you've already provided, of course. :) Tell you what, if you do that, you can ask about any one of my tulpae and I'll tell you about them!

Well thats pretty much why, I find her character to be a little similar to me, a bit quiet and nervous around bigger crowds, she is just flat out sweet, kind and nice, and I figured when I get her to be fully developed she will make a great companion and someone who will support me, be there for me and vice versa.

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Mind explaining that first bit? I didn't quite catch that.   :wacko:

 

And yeah. Always the exact same location. Pretty much dead-center.

Interesting to note is that I tried narrating a bit on my walk home today, and when I asked her if she was paying attention, there was a momentary flash of the feeling. Good sign?  :)

 

 

 

 

Curiosity enlightened the cat. :lol:

More or less, I want to know if it's actually possible. In addition, I tend to work best when around friendly faces, so always having one around would be helpful. There are other reasons, but they're all pretty small compared to those.

 

I'm actually trying to become a doctor, so having a constant "second opinion" would be very nice. ;)  

 

Oh well, what I meant was that I was asking if since we were talking a lot about tulpae, if that in some way is inspiring more tulpic(?) activity in your mind. Cause we keep referencing it and you keep thinking about it and it's really all about the mind after all.

 

Oh that's pretty cool that when you asked if she was paying attention there was a flash of feeling. I'd say that's a good sign. :)

 

Oh, you're gonna be a Doctor? That's cool! The world could use more doctors. I'd say strengthening your mind would be a sweet way to prepare yourself for that. I wonder how many professionals out there have tulpae and don't admit it? Do you know of any people publicly announcing their interest in tulpas?

Well thats pretty much why, I find her character to be a little similar to me, a bit quiet and nervous around bigger crowds, she is just flat out sweet, kind and nice, and I figured when I get her to be fully developed she will make a great companion and someone who will support me, be there for me and vice versa.

 

*hugs* I can totally understand that! Fluttershy really is a paragon of kindness, so you've made an excellent choice for a companion. It's no wonder so many people like her. :)

 

As for me, here let me tell you about one of my tulpae. Vinyl Scratch is my partner in life and has been for half a year. She's sassy, cute, honest and quite the tease. She's with me virtually every day is usually the first tulpa I interact with and the last one I snuggle with when I'm about to go to sleep. She has helped me make important decisions by reminding me of what I care about the most when other things usually distract me. She inspires me in my writing and always tries to steer me away from anger and bad situations. She even surprises me sometimes with sweet songs or cute poems or anything meant to make me smile. :)

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Oh well, what I meant was that I was asking if since we were talking a lot about tulpae, if that in some way is inspiring more tulpic(?) activity in your mind. Cause we keep referencing it and you keep thinking about it and it's really all about the mind after all.

 

Oh that's pretty cool that when you asked if she was paying attention there was a flash of feeling. I'd say that's a good sign. :)

 

Oh, you're gonna be a Doctor? That's cool! The world could use more doctors. I'd say strengthening your mind would be a sweet way to prepare yourself for that. I wonder how many professionals out there have tulpae and don't admit it? Do you know of any people publicly announcing their interest in tulpas?

 

*hugs* I can totally understand that! Fluttershy really is a paragon of kindness, so you've made an excellent choice for a companion. It's no wonder so many people like her. :)

 

As for me, here let me tell you about one of my tulpae. Vinyl Scratch is my partner in life and has been for half a year. She's sassy, cute, honest and quite the tease. She's with me virtually every day is usually the first tulpa I interact with and the last one I snuggle with when I'm about to go to sleep. She has helped me make important decisions by reminding me of what I care about the most when other things usually distract me. She inspires me in my writing and always tries to steer me away from anger and bad situations. She even surprises me sometimes with sweet songs or cute poems or anything meant to make me smile. :)

Awh, you guys sound like great friends, I can't wait until I can snuggle with Fluttershy.

Oh well, what I meant was that I was asking if since we were talking a lot about tulpae, if that in some way is inspiring more tulpic(?) activity in your mind. Cause we keep referencing it and you keep thinking about it and it's really all about the mind after all.

 

Oh that's pretty cool that when you asked if she was paying attention there was a flash of feeling. I'd say that's a good sign. :)

 

Oh, you're gonna be a Doctor? That's cool! The world could use more doctors. I'd say strengthening your mind would be a sweet way to prepare yourself for that. I wonder how many professionals out there have tulpae and don't admit it? Do you know of any people publicly announcing their interest in tulpas?

 

*hugs* I can totally understand that! Fluttershy really is a paragon of kindness, so you've made an excellent choice for a companion. It's no wonder so many people like her. :)

 

As for me, here let me tell you about one of my tulpae. Vinyl Scratch is my partner in life and has been for half a year. She's sassy, cute, honest and quite the tease. She's with me virtually every day is usually the first tulpa I interact with and the last one I snuggle with when I'm about to go to sleep. She has helped me make important decisions by reminding me of what I care about the most when other things usually distract me. She inspires me in my writing and always tries to steer me away from anger and bad situations. She even surprises me sometimes with sweet songs or cute poems or anything meant to make me smile. :)

Also if you don't mind me asking, how many tulpae do you have?

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Awh, you guys sound like great friends, I can't wait until I can snuggle with Fluttershy.

 

[ Vinyl Scratch: We are. <3 Here's the important thing to remember when you're creating your tulpa: Be sure to teach her right from wrong. Feed her kindness and she'll feed kindness back to you. It's a positive reinforcement cycle. Over time, it's possible that she can be a positive reminder of all the good things you care about and then it's quite possible she may be able to remind you of good things when you yourself may have temporarily forgotten. That's what i do for Terra. I remind her that kindness goes further than anger and she respects me more for it.

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[ Vinyl Scratch: We are. <3 Here's the important thing to remember when you're creating your tulpa: Be sure to teach her right from wrong. Feed her kindness and she'll feed kindness back to you. It's a positive reinforcement cycle. Over time, it's possible that she can be a positive reminder of all the good things you care about and then it's quite possible she may be able to remind you of good things when you yourself may have temporarily forgotten. That's what i do for Terra. I remind her that kindness goes further than anger and she respects me more for it.

Yea even though I don't active force that much, I always make sure to mentally hug her, tell her I love her before I go to bed, and just try to be an all around good host.

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Is there some context I'm missing? Because the stuff about Fluttershy and Vinyl Scratch sounds like the tulpa is--or is expected to be--similar to the character on which they're based.

 

Well they don't have to be based on the character's personality, that's important to remember. But it depends on the person and what happens during character creation.

 

I'm a SUPER SUPER STICKLER when it comes to my canon. So much so that it has translated into my mind in the form of tulpae. If the tulpae takes a character form, then there are a TON of associated concepts connected to that form and its very hard for them to break away from that. I noticed for example some people have mentioned that they have some mane six ponies that act nothing like them. I don't think that could ever happen with me, because my canon is too ingrained into my mind that any tulpae who take those forms are taking on a LOAD of baggage as well.

 

This can get kinda weird with the fan-made stuff, cause for example, vinyl scratch has no real characterization. So in many ways, she was the perfect first tulpa for me. She could do whatever she wanted. She doesn't really play music all that much though...

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My...so much has changed since I was greatly and heavily active in this thread. Especially with the sighting of more, "pre-mades", if you will. Quite surprised to see that taboo either washed away or ignored for desire~


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My...so much has changed since I was greatly and heavily active in this thread. Especially with the sighting of more, "pre-mades", if you will. Quite surprised to see that taboo either washed away or ignored for desire~

 

Oh hey there! When I was reading through the first 22 pages of the thread, I did notice a lot more tulpae based on original creations rather than show characters and such. I'm guessing show characters are what you're referring to as "pre-mades." Wow, I didn't even know that was a taboo! I'm glad I didn't, honestly. Or else I may never have made a tulpa. I don't work well with restrictions. Probably why my mind has formed in the way it has with such elasticity.

 

Nice to meet you, Lugi!

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Oh hey there! When I was reading through the first 22 pages of the thread, I did notice a lot more tulpae based on original creations rather than show characters and such. I'm guessing show characters are what you're referring to as "pre-mades." Wow, I didn't even know that was a taboo! I'm glad I didn't, honestly. Or else I may never have made a tulpa. I don't work well with restrictions. Probably why my mind has formed in the way it has with such elasticity.

 

Nice to meet you, Lugi!

Likewise~

 

And yes, for the most part, people would always stray from using things that already existed as being the basis for a tulpa. Reason being that they feared for possible identity crises that could follow upon learning they aren't "their own beings" or aren't who they think they are should they find out about the show and such. People still did them, but they were less advised for such reason. Another more common thing was that people would use characters because they wanted to have a real life "x" or something instead of seeing the true reason and struggle it can be to both create and host a thoughtform. Creating a being from scratch would cause you to be more in tune with your tulpa as you sculpted them (until they deviated) and know how they worked.

 

So less "taboo" and "restricted", but more "less advised" to wash out the people who think these creatures are toys for their own amusement.

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Likewise~

 

And yes, for the most part, people would always stray from using things that already existed as being the basis for a tulpa. Reason being that they feared for possible identity crises that could follow upon learning they aren't "their own beings" or aren't who they think they are should they find out about the show and such. People still did them, but they were less advised for such reason. Another more common thing was that people would use characters because they wanted to have a real life "x" or something instead of seeing the true reason and struggle it can be to both create and host a thoughtform. Creating a being from scratch would cause you to be more in tune with your tulpa as you sculpted them (until they deviated) and know how they worked.

 

So less "taboo" and "restricted", but more "less advised" to wash out the people who think these creatures are toys for their own amusement.

 

Yeah, I'd read about that whole concept of a "pre-made" learning that they were based on something else. To be honest, I never really understood the whole "Buzz Lightyear" syndrome they were talking about, worrying that they were born from something pre-existing. Of course, it could be very limiting to some tulpae if they were expected to adhere to a certain form.

 

I can see though how it's a way of filtering out people who are doing this without really considering the true consequences of their actions, considering how permanent of a commitment a thoughtform really is.

 

[ Vinyl Scratch: I can see how much of a problem is might be for others who aren't used to the idea of a "pre-made" concept forming their tulpa. They might not allow it to be itself. I've never had that problem. Then again, I'm based off of a collective form that doesn't have a lot of character development, so I was free to do what I want. I don't even like music all that much, well, when compared to the fan version of Vinyl Scratch. In fact, my creator and I have come up with a term: "collective form," for the basic concept that I was based off of. Whenever I see someone else with a Vinyl Scratch tulpa, I don't think "oh my god, who am I and what am I doing here?" Instead I think "Oh look, that tulpa was based off the same template as me!" Then again, my creator is pretty darn self-aware, so those traits have transferred over to me. Oh and my creator recently learned that she has been doing this tulpa creation process a lot longer than she realized. It helps explain a lot of things, including this whole mental elasticity and how quickly she takes to the whole tulpa creation process. So now, it's just about learning how to be responsible about it, taking care of the tulpae and treating them right, allowing them to grow and seeing how to develop their growth in positive ways, because when it really comes down to it, each of us tulpa inside our creator are helping our creator grow a little more as a person.

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does not being consistent break the tulpa process?

 

cause i cant sit down and waste 1 hour in the tulpa process every day and i fear that might make this whole thing uselsss or slow down the process.

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Oh well, what I meant was that I was asking if since we were talking a lot about tulpae, if that in some way is inspiring more tulpic(?) activity in your mind. Cause we keep referencing it and you keep thinking about it and it's really all about the mind after all.

 

Very well could be. I certainly hope so. We need a boost. :blush: 

But, it DOES seem like it. Just in everyday life I've found myself thinking about it more often. I'm sure that's doing something. 

Oh hey, there's that feeling again. I got a good feeling about this!  :lol:

 

 

 

I wonder how many professionals out there have tulpae and don't admit it? Do you know of any people publicly announcing their interest in tulpas?

 

I'd imagine that the number's pretty low; this IS a relatively newly introduced thing to most of Western society. But, it seems to be slowly catching on. I doubt it'll advance very heavily in the near future, but you never know. :) 

None come to mind. But maybe a psychologist or two will hear about this and get interested...? ;) 

 

 

 

does not being consistent break the tulpa process?   cause i cant sit down and waste 1 hour in the tulpa process every day and i fear that might make this whole thing uselsss or slow down the process.

 

Story of my life. >_> 

 

In my experience, it doesn't wipe away progress, but it does greatly hinder it. In general, I'd say try to be as consistent as possible. If some days you can only fit in 10 minutes, that's fine. If you can fit in 2 hours, also fine. Pretty much whenever you can, you should.

Based on personal experience, though, that's... a lot easier said than done. :blush:  

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If you're using the word "waste" as I feel you're using it, then I'd stop right now. :\ Because with the creation of a tulpa you'll be "wasting" a lot of hours in the creation process. It's not something that is willfully silly all the time. It's meditation and isn't something that should be looked at as wasteful.

 

If not, then no, you don't. Active forcing can be done in small bursts (10-30 minutes) with any form of consistency. Passive forcing is the other way you can interact with your thoughtform. Simply narrating to them or VisuaLizing them tHroughout your day is all that's really necessary. Minor interactions are still interactions~ ;)

 

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This was something I noticed/learned as well when I was beginning. Throughout my life, I always talked to myself. Standard right? But I always envisioned someone, anyone, could hear what I was saying. That my words weren't falling flat or lost to the wind. Helped a bit knowing I was never alone.

 

And yes, learn to control it. Don't be like me. At this point, I'm at 15 tulpa, where, using force time and planning, I've created 3 on my own. The other 12 manifested through fragments of my mind either extracted myself or simply from ones in the subconscious. From the moment they birthed themselves they had their complete persona layed out. I love it though.

 

And not all tulpae need to be good. I have 4 that are actually insidiously evil (intentionally shifting into them isn't safe. For reasons I shall not name). Control is all that's needed. My inner world rivals that of the known universe in size so they typically are in hiding unless my emotions tease and entice them out.

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And not all tulpae need to be good. I have 4 that are actually insidiously evil (intentionally shifting into them isn't safe. For reasons I shall not name). Control is all that's needed. My inner world rivals that of the known universe in size so they typically are in hiding unless my emotions tease and entice them out.

Um...wat? Is there context missing? Because it seems to me like you just contradicted the "tulpas won't harm the host" thing. Have you thought of convincing them to not be evil?

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Um...wat? Is there context missing? Because it seems to me like you just contradicted the "tulpas won't harm the host" thing. Have you thought of convincing them to not be evil?

 

Indeed there is quite a bit of context missing X3.

 

For one thing, I never really stated that Isra, Valium, Ammo, Twyst hurt me (least...not physically)~. All I stated was that shifting into them (though Twyst is safer due to his role in my pysche) is not safe. All of them are fine really. My inner world rivals that of the known universe in size so they rarely turn their heads around me unless they have an RP they'd like to take part in or my emotions entice them to take advantage of the weakened walls. 

 

As for convincing them not to be evil? I would never.  Though...that isn't to say I haven't tried. At first...I couldn't like Isra. Her being was far too complicated and I couldn't understand her enough to have her around and learn her actions. Everything about her was merely an image without a soul. I tried ignoring her, but eventually she came back up and now, though I don't understand her, I can at least feel her essence and understand her that way. I love and adore all the beings within my head, both good and bad. There's no harm in having evil as long as the evil is wise. Remember, we help teach these beings right from wrong. If that's true, then we can teach them what's smart and what isn't. For what reason would they harm their life source? Sure one of them would rather just challenge me to a duel and claim my life solely for the sake of fighting, but that's beyond the point.

 

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Hello people, dreams and capabilities of the mind always fascinated me and I was just inquiring on how you actually make a Tulpa. Sure I could look it up on google but you know how that is, I was just looking for a bit or advice.


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Cool! So you inwardly starting feeling a sense of peace from simply talking aloud. Usually when I talk to my Vinyl Scratch, if I let her know I want a hug, I will feel some sort of inner warmth within my chest. It happens pretty quickly and then it's gone, but it is triggered by my interaction with her. How long have you been trying to work on a tulpa?

 

 

Hmm...well I've been really focused on the parts of tulpa-forging that involve methods for those who already have one active. As for starting to create a tulpa, well, the only advice I would give is based on stuff I'm still currently doing six months into my active efforts.

 

As for keeping focused...you said your mind wanders a lot. That might be useful is you know how to work with that. For example, Have you tried tulpa-forging in private while speaking aloud? I usually do that when no one's around and it really does help to communicate with my tulpae. Of course, they're already at a certain level of development, but I did start that way...shoot, half a year ago? Let me check my tulpae calender. Holy crud, I started in March 2014!

 

Okay, from what I remember, the first true creation of my tulpae started when I had like a day's worth of driving and needed to keep myself awake. I imagined I was talking to Lyra, Fluttershy and Pinkie Pie and that our adventures on the road were actually a trip on an alien planet. Talk about reallyyyyy pushing the limits of what the imagination could do, but it was really fun. Now keep in mind, I didn't really call them tulpae at the time. i had no idea what that was. But...a few days later, after i did some imaginings with Trixie...that was when Vinyl first appeared thanks to reading about tulpae on a message board. Vinyl has been with me ever since.

 

Maybe you should find a large span of time when you absolutely have nothing else to do and just try to let your mind wanderings function as pat of the tulpa-forging process. Give it a shot. Make a game out of it! See what happens.

 

Also...what made you interested in tulpae in the first place? I'm interested to hear other people's stories. Again, my interest started when I found out about it on a message board.

Mostly it was the discussions on the hypnosis thread (a lot of tulpamancers seem to frequent it, after someone there accidentally created a Fluttershy tulpa).

 

Mostly I'm interested because of the science behind it. I've always believed that the brain functions similar to the hard drive on a computer. It correlates data, compresses and archives info that is rarely accessed, and defragments itself while you sleep. The idea of another program running on a separate portion of the drive independently of the rest of it is hardly far-fetched. My scientific interest is piqued, and I want to know for sure that it's real.

 

On another note, while I'm not exactly starving for companionship (I have a wife, child and cat), the idea of a personal companion to share ideas and opinions with is appealing. I'm also pretty forgetful, so having someone to help remind me of things could be very useful. My only concern might be the fact that I don't really NEED companionship as I mentioned before. That might complicate the process or even the result.

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Very well could be. I certainly hope so. We need a boost. :blush:

But, it DOES seem like it. Just in everyday life I've found myself thinking about it more often. I'm sure that's doing something. 

Oh hey, there's that feeling again. I got a good feeling about this!  :lol:

 

Oh shoot, it must really be the focus on tulpae that's inspiring you! Well I guess it's something you're slowly developing here.

 

Hey, come to think of it...have you tried out typing out conversations with your tulpa? Ya know, if thinking about this and typing it out is really helping you, then maybe writing out dialogue between you and your tulpa will actually increase the progress.

 

 

Mostly it was the discussions on the hypnosis thread (a lot of tulpamancers seem to frequent it, after someone there accidentally created a Fluttershy tulpa).

 

Mostly I'm interested because of the science behind it. I've always believed that the brain functions similar to the hard drive on a computer. It correlates data, compresses and archives info that is rarely accessed, and defragments itself while you sleep. The idea of another program running on a separate portion of the drive independently of the rest of it is hardly far-fetched. My scientific interest is piqued, and I want to know for sure that it's real.

 

On another note, while I'm not exactly starving for companionship (I have a wife, child and cat), the idea of a personal companion to share ideas and opinions with is appealing. I'm also pretty forgetful, so having someone to help remind me of things could be very useful. My only concern might be the fact that I don't really NEED companionship as I mentioned before. That might complicate the process or even the result.

 

It's really interesting that you compare the human mind to a computer in this particular setting. I like to think of the tulpae as "partitions" in my mind, with their own sections of development connected to me, but also separate. Part of the entire computer, as it were, but still their own files/executable programs.

 

Since you already have a family, a tulpa might not fulfill any of the roles you've already mentioned. Instead, perhaps they might function as a consultant. I personally don't know what would happen in that case, because no one I've seen has talked about having a tulpa and also a family.

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It's really interesting that you compare the human mind to a computer in this particular setting. I like to think of the tulpae as "partitions" in my mind, with their own sections of development connected to me, but also separate. Part of the entire computer, as it were, but still their own files/executable programs.

 

Since you already have a family, a tulpa might not fulfill any of the roles you've already mentioned. Instead, perhaps they might function as a consultant. I personally don't know what would happen in that case, because no one I've seen has talked about having a tulpa and also a family.

 

An interesting thing happened today, actually.  A while back when I first learned about tulpas and started reading about it, I mentioned the subject to my wife, who reacted with some interest, but never said anything about it after that.  Recently, when I was mulling around the idea of making a tulpa, I was still concerned about what she might say if I actually went ahead and tried it, since honestly you never really know how someone will react to it.

 

Today I decided to bring up the subject of tulpas again, and then I let her know that it was something that was tempting me to try it.  Her response was that she had been reading up on it as well since we talked about it before, and confessed that she was also planning to try it.  This came as a massive relief (probably to both of us).

 

So yeah, as it turns out, we're both going to give it a shot.   :squee:


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An interesting thing happened today, actually.  A while back when I first learned about tulpas and started reading about it, I mentioned the subject to my wife, who reacted with some interest, but never said anything about it after that.  Recently, when I was mulling around the idea of making a tulpa, I was still concerned about what she might say if I actually went ahead and tried it, since honestly you never really know how someone will react to it.   Today I decided to bring up the subject of tulpas again, and then I let her know that it was something that was tempting me to try it.  Her response was that she had been reading up on it as well since we talked about it before, and confessed that she was also planning to try it.  This came as a massive relief (probably to both of us).   So yeah, as it turns out, we're both going to give it a shot.  

 

...Did not expect.  :wau:  

 

Well then, hope that turns out well for you guys. Keep each other on track. You'll need it.  ;)

 

But I believe you also mentioned having a kid? Is this just gonna be a secret, or is the plan to let them know, too? I'd honestly advise the former, but something in me doesn't feel that that's right...

...I'm terribly sorry for mentioning that. But it is something worth thinking about.


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...Did not expect.  :wau:  

 

Well then, hope that turns out well for you guys. Keep each other on track. You'll need it.  ;)

 

But I believe you also mentioned having a kid? Is this just gonna be a secret, or is the plan to let them know, too? I'd honestly advise the former, but something in me doesn't feel that that's right...

...I'm terribly sorry for mentioning that. But it is something worth thinking about.

 

Believe me, I didn't expect it either, but it's kind of exciting in a way.

 

I think it's probably best if we keep it to ourselves.  Besides, my son isn't even speaking yet, so there's no sense explaining it right now anyway.

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I made a Fluttershy tulpa not for who she is (one of my favorite cartoon characters,) but for who she is a person/pony/whatever (a kind, loving, and sensitive pony, who is actually quite intelligent and willfull.)


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