#MLPSeriesFinale: Will Twilight Sparkle Outlive Her Friends?

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At one time, Megan said that wouldn't happen, but yet the finale shows the fandom otherwise.  However I have 2 theories on how she may/will not outlive her friends.

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#MLPSeriesFinale: Will Twilight Sparkle Outlive Her Friends?

[Latecomer 441]

It seems likely, but you never know. Not all deaths are from age, after all.

[Rushing cash 845]

She should, I mean it would be a wast if she just replaced the princesses for such a short time. Everything points out to it, although its possible she will die\ be killed before she can out live them.

[Sepul-Coloratura 764]

No, but Tank would...

[Goat-kun 2,531]

Let the fans decide..

[Justin_Case001 4,933]

I think it's a given.  And I've always assumed that dragons are immortal/long lived as well, as evident by their slow maturation rate.  One day, when the dust from the mane six's bones is long gone, Spike and Twilight will continue to protect Equestria together.

[Sepul-Coloratura 764]

If you are a person who sadly enjoys a heartbroken feeling by imagining one of your favorite fictional character mourning after all of her closest friends death, then maybe yes.

[Latecomer 441]

2 hours ago, Sepul-Coloratura said:

If you are a person who sadly enjoys a heartbroken feeling by imagining one of your favorite fictional character mourning after all of her closest friends death, then maybe yes.

Or perhpas if you are someone who doesn't enjoy such things, and has no eagerness to see Spike, Celestia, Discord and so on lose Twilight as well as everyone else?

[Prince Doopliss 2,353]

I wouldn't say Twilight is going to outlive her friends. Jim Miller said nothing lives forever. That even imp;lies to the likes of Celestia, Luna, and Discord. Twilight could give up her role her to Luster Dawn when Luster starts understanding friendship better. Twilight could die when her friends start to die. While this is old and happen in 2013, but Meghan McCarthy stated that Twilight won't out live her friends. Granted this could change. But how I see it, I don't see Twilight out living her friends.

[Latecomer 441]

5 minutes ago, Prince Doopliss said:

I wouldn't say Twilight is going to outlive her friends. Jim Miller said nothing lives forever. That even imp;lies to the likes of Celestia, Luna, and Discord. Twilight could give up her role her to Luster Dawn when Luster starts understanding friendship better. Twilight could die when her friends start to die. While this is old and happen in 2013, but Meghan McCarthy stated that Twilight won't out live her friends. Granted this could change. But how I see it, I don't see Twilight out living her friends.

It's still a total headbanger to me that people seem so reassured by this kind of idea. I wonder if it can all be traced to the idea of an afterlife, which is in no way present in the show.

[BastementSparkle 20,335]

The thing is, Celestia lived and ruled all of Equestria for over a thousand years, and Twilight in the finale is basically a big Celestia recolor. It's not exactly concrete, but that certainly seems to be trying to imply that yes, Twilight is like the royal sisters and will outlive her friends. The problem is that Alicorn's are still just so darn vague though, we really don't know much about how they work. Are they immortal or do they just have really long life-spans? Is the source of that immortality/increased life span something biological or magical? Is there a difference between natural alicorns and ascended ones, what exactly causes the increase in size and flowing mane, does Cadance have that too now and if not, then why not?

 Really, there's enough of a lack of concrete info in canon that I do think you can just headcanon what you want, despite it seemingly being implied that Twilight will live on. Plus, you know...there's no saying she can't somehow die some other way, as tragic as it might be. Alicorns, if they are immortal at all, only seem to be that way in the sense of eternal youth or being unaging. They aren't invincible.

[Ittoni 538]

Don't worry kids. Nothing ever dies in equestria. Everyone lives forever happily ever after. And if anyone says anything otherwise they are just probably an old fart or lying. 

Ok, I'll drop it now. I think that the mane 5 will die before twilight and Spike and Celestia and discord leaving them "alone". I know they don't really touched on it because it would require another season probably after the epilogue but I think that if they would have continue they would have face themselves with this same problem at one point, and since it didn't happen I can explain to you what is the most likely future. 

They drift appart because of their duties but keep in touch with each other. That's great but that doesn't mean you can't have more friends outside if the ones you had. Twilight probably has made more friends over the years, and even if she doesn't there's still her honorary family, Spike, the cakes, flurry, the cmc's, her students. If course they are not going to be in the same level as your best friends but that doesn't mean you love them less or that they are less important. 

Knowing twilight (and for how they depict her as of lately) she will freak out and cry a lot knowing that she's not going to see her friends forever, they will eventually have to die because she herself is immortal. But then I'm sure that they will remind her that it's normal and that their role as her friends will never end because it's part of some much bigger than themselves, written in their legacy to the world and twilight herself. They will probably give something to her to keep their memories alive even when they're gone and Twi would have to come to terms with it and find her friends in the things they left behind like family or in the happiness and we'll being of others, who in turn will have to keep that flame alive for generation to come, and twilight will be there to be sure of it as a living reminder with the company of the ones that stayed.

Edited October 20, 2019 by Ittoni

[Prince Doopliss 2,353]

17 minutes ago, Latecomer said:

It's still a total headbanger to me that people seem so reassured by this kind of idea. I wonder if it can all be traced to the idea of an afterlife, which is in no way present in the show.

What do you mean?  The idea of nothing lives other even gods or immortals have been indicated to die in different strains of media.So it isn't something unheard of. Heck immortals have lost their immortality (some cases is BS because bad writing, but in some cases it is reasonable). I'm not not saying Twilight couldn't outlive her friends, I just don't see it that way with some things I know.

Heck if if you seen the first Highlanders movie (before the sequels decided to take a dump on it) the way of immortals getting killed from their heads getting cut off seems silly, but is explained why it is the way it is. Again though the second Highlanders ruin the mythos with alien non-sense.

[Latecomer 441]

2 minutes ago, Ittoni said:

Don't worry kids. Nothing ever dies in equestria. Everyone lives forever happily ever after. And if anyone says anything otherwise they are just probably an old fart or lying. 

What's in the box, Jack?

But seriously, is no-one considering the possibility of making the Manes lives longer rather than Twilight's shorter? It's like a bleeding crab bucket, except it's not even the crabs pulling each other down.

 

2 minutes ago, Prince Doopliss said:

What do you mean?  The idea of nothing lives other even gods or immortals have been indicated to die in different strains of media

Oh yeah - Twilight is going to die eventually. I just don't see why people seem to think this is good, let alone that the closer it is to the end of the other Mane's lives the better.

[BornAgainBrony 2,398]

They almost even made it even more obvious. I heard among the leaks are a draft of the finale, and the foal talking to Twilight was none other than Flurryheart. And as an Alicorn, she's uninterested in friends because, yes... exactly that reason.

[Latecomer 441]

11 minutes ago, BornAgainBrony said:

They almost even made it even more obvious. I heard among the leaks are a draft of the finale, and the foal talking to Twilight was none other than Flurryheart. And she's uninterested in friends because she's an Alicorn, becauae... yes, exactly that reason.

The draft I'm looking at, Flurry was concerned on behalf of her mortal student, not herself.

[FlareGun45 2,221]

I dunno, man, but she's not the only one outliving her friends!

Discord's outliving Fluttershy, Spike's outliving everyone he cares about (other than Ember and Smolder), Flurry might outlive everyone she cares about and maybe even Cadance! Are we gonna get into any of that?

[Latecomer 441]

10 minutes ago, FlareGun45 said:

I dunno, man, but she's not the only one outliving her friends!

Discord's outliving Fluttershy, Spike's outliving everyone he cares about (other than Ember and Smolder), Flurry might outlive everyone she cares about and maybe even Cadance! Are we gonna get into any of that?

Exactly. Outliving was on the table since Season 1. The only difference is which side Twilight's on.

[Thrond 3,271]

Yes, she probably will. She is taking Celestia’s place, and Celestia has lived an extremely long time. You can speculate all you want, but she is an alicorn and they are not. The show has invalidated that tweet. And you know what? There are reasons to be happy about immortality. I know I would prefer not to grow old and die. Plus she gets to share knowledge with every future generation. 

Trying to rationalize it still causes me trouble, though. She never asked for any of this, and we have no indication that was something she wanted. All of her friends got to make choices, and it kinda feels like she didn’t, no matter how much she goes along with everything. More significant to me is how Celestia’s age has quite clearly alienated her from Equestrian society. Does Celestia have friends who treat her as an equal, or have the years prevented anyone from seeing her as anything other than the immortal princess? Twilight still viewed her that way even after being declared a princess. Is this something Twilight wants, or does she accept that fate out of obligation? What would have happened if she just said “no”? That is why I’m not comfortable with her character arc. 

Edited October 21, 2019 by AlexanderThrond

[Thrond 3,271]

2 hours ago, FlareGun45 said:

Discord's outliving Fluttershy

He actually kinda approaches this from the opposite direction; he's probably already outlived plenty of people, but this is the first time he's actually cared about others enough for it to be a problem. That's something he's gonna have to learn to deal with, which is interesting. 

2 hours ago, FlareGun45 said:

Spike's outliving everyone he cares about (other than Ember and Smolder),

That's definitely sad, but he was born into it by being a dragon, and unlike Twilight there will be plenty of other dragons his age for him to befriend. And his official title has less weight to it so it won't alienate him either. 

2 hours ago, FlareGun45 said:

Flurry might outlive everyone she cares about and maybe even Cadance!

Flurry was so young for the entire time we saw her that it's hard to feel the weight of her immortality - even after the time skip, she still has decades before she starts outliving her friends. That she was born into that status actually kinda makes it worse in some ways, but it also means that Cadance can raise her to be ready for it. 

But Cadance actually horrifies me in this respect even more than Twilight. She was already in this position by the time we met her, so it has less impact, but supposedly she outright moved away from her hometown to become a princess, plus she has to outlive her husband - and that's a bond that's supposed to be a bit more permanent. 

[Latecomer 441]

2 minutes ago, AlexanderThrond said:

But Cadance actually horrifies me in this respect even more than Twilight. She was already in this position by the time we met her, so it has less impact, but supposedly she outright moved away from her hometown to become a princess, plus she has to outlive her husband - and that's a bond that's supposed to be a bit more permanent.

They have to have discussed it first,though, right? Even if they weren't sure she was. (Then again, a Guard's wife should probably be prepared for that sort of thing anyway.)

 

And Spike will have Twilight, Celestia, Discord and so on as well as other dragons.

[Thrond 3,271]

36 minutes ago, Latecomer said:

They have to have discussed it first,though, right? Even if they weren't sure she was.

Yes, but that wouldn't make it any easier for her. 

37 minutes ago, Latecomer said:

(Then again, a Guard's wife should probably be prepared for that sort of thing anyway.)

I didn't even consider that angle. But of course that brings up the likelihood that she would constantly be hoping that never happened. 

38 minutes ago, Latecomer said:

And Spike will have Twilight, Celestia, Discord and so on as well as other dragons.

Yeah, that's my point. Even if alicorns weren't immortal and he hadn't befriended Discord, there's always other dragons. 

[FlareGun45 2,221]

1 hour ago, Latecomer said:

And Spike will have Twilight, Celestia, Discord and so on as well as other dragons.

And Luna and Flurry!

[cuteycindyhoney 13,336]

What about Amy and Rory? Oh, wait. Wrong show. Oddly, the EXACT same problem.

[Singe 2,111]

The way I see it is that after Twilight's friends are close to their expiration date. She will have a plan in place to retire for the next candidate to take over ruling Equestria. Over nine seasons and a time skip, Twilight hasn't bother to expand her close circle of friends.