Trixie is not evil!

[Sunny Fox 5,952]

I'll hold my piece (or is that peace? I never can remember) with respect to a lot of the pure wishful thinking and character reinvention that this thread has, but I really would like one of Trixie's fans to make a case that she is expecting to make any money at all from her performance. It's routinely assumed, yet no one has ever provided solid evidence or even a compelling logical deduction to prove it.

 

PS: No, Trixie is not evil, and she is not a villain. Nor is she an entirely blameless victim. She is merely an antagonist.

Edited July 26, 2012 by Full Spectrum

[---------------------- 1,645]

I never thought of Trixie of being evil in the slightest, she just shoboats and is very ignorant.

 

One thing though is that I have been withholding my overall opinion of her, as I would really like to see some backstory, I am willing to bet my attorney badge that it involves Trixie being inferior is some way when she was a filly....something like that anyway...

[FalconnHoof 30]

I like Trixie, needs more episodes /:

 

Maybe one where the Mane is in another town an they see Trixie performing. they confront her and she explains she isn't really a bad pony. Maybe then Twilight could give her some spell books Eventually she could become more powerful with magic. Then, in a later episode, perform in Ponyville for everyone. Everyone, even the Mane 6, will enjoy it.

[Taurie 1]

I can't believe somepony put Discord as 'neutral' and Trixie as 'evil'. She's NOT evil. She is an antagonist, but it's just her being arrogant. Also, I heard she's coming back in season 3. Can't wait!

[punkypie 6]

I really belive Trixie has a lot of potential for being a charismatic evil character, i want see a episode taking her revenge against twilight Sparkle and she's friends

[MallaJong1 202]

You're welcome, sirseansy, means' alot to hear that said of me

 

 

I don't believe the word "Just" belongs there.

 

And Rarity? She's all about fashion, it's the one thing in the world she's proud of, and where she gets her feeling of worth and accomplishment. She's probably going to have nightmares about that moment for a long time, and if it wasn't for the fact that this was one of the less-realistic episodes, she probably would've had some emotional issues for awhile as a result.

 

 

And personally, I find what some comedians often do is in fact, immoral. Just because people are getting a laugh doesn't justify it.

 

It's actually an interesting moral question: benefiting large numbers of people for the pain of a few. It's a lot like implementing slavery for a small demographic; same morality applies, just on a larger level.

 

All in all, trying to understand the morality of all of this is wonderfully realistically complex. And people call this a children's show lol.

 

In all truth, the basis of these questions truly comes down upon the definition of morality and human standards of humility and trauma. Numerous societies across the globe have very different standards and levels for measuring these factors. It's really a matter of allowing something to affect you or not. Therefore, while I can come up with arguments to defend Trixie further, I will just leave it to the question of: When does a particular action become immoral? Because in the eyes of many, there will be many differing answers, and coming down to a pristine consensus is improbable. But that is what a thread is for, right?

[~Chaos~ 3,967]

She isn't pure evil, she just has that I am better than you attitude, I like Trixie, she adds that selfish love for herself personality, therefore expanding the sea of personalities that there are on this show, sure she could realize what she is doing and change, but that would change a personality that makes all the ponies unique.

 

That's my point of view.

[spaghettinoodles 298]

I love Trixie. I see her as a misunderstood soul. My theory is that she's very poor and couldn't afford an education or spellbooks on real magic, so she has to act as a travelling stage magician. That must be her secret that the CMC wrote about in Ponyville Confidential! If she didn't act that arrogant, no one would pay attention to her show.

Edited July 29, 2012 by spaghettinoodles

[Homura Akemi 974]

She isn't evil, but rather irritating in my opinion. She's just arrogant and stuck-up is all.

[TheBeatlesPkmnFan42 33]

Gilda=Neautral

Trixie=Evil

 

What? That should be switched around. Gilda is a hell of a lot more evil. Trixie seems more neautral to me. :/

[Sunny Fox 5,952]

Gilda=Neautral

Trixie=Evil

 

What? That should be switched around. Gilda is a hell of a lot more evil. Trixie seems more neautral to me. :/

 

Gilda is not evil either. She's a bully and treated the other ponies badly, but she truly regarded Rainbow Dash as a friend, and she seemed to feel bad about letting her down... for a moment, anyway. I find it quite amusing (but sad) that some fans will go to the ends of the earth to justify Trixie's bad behaviour, but don't extend the same consideration to Gilda.

 

Edit: The post below just serves to prove my pet theory... if Trixie had been mean to Fluttershy, she would have far fewer fans.

Edited July 30, 2012 by Full Spectrum

[Demiurge 108]

People fail to realize that while Trixie (and Gilda) are antagonists in the show, they are not necessarily villains. Sure they may be mean but that's just they're personality. They're just misunderstood, not evil.

Actually scratch that. I just remembered Gilda making Fluttershy cry. She IS evil and she can go get banished to the moon for all I care.

[Hazardus_Havard. 479]

People fail to realize that while Trixie (and Gilda) are antagonists in the show, they are not necessarily villains. Sure they may be mean but that's just they're personality. They're just misunderstood, not evil.

Actually scratch that. I just remembered Gilda making Fluttershy cry. She IS evil and she can go get banished to the moon for all I care.

 

Gilda is not evil either. She's a bully and treated the other ponies badly, but she truly regarded Rainbow Dash as a friend, and she seemed to feel bad about letting her down... for a moment, anyway. I find it quite amusing (but sad) that some fans will go to the ends of the earth to justify Trixie's bad behaviour, but don't extend the same consideration to Gilda.

 

Edit: The post below just serves to prove my pet theory... if Trixie had been mean to Fluttershy, she would have far fewer fans.

 

Gilda=Neautral

Trixie=Evil

 

What? That should be switched around. Gilda is a hell of a lot more evil. Trixie seems more neautral to me. :/

 

Okay, I'm not even sure WHY Gilda is being mentioned here.

 

Gilda is not evil. She more or less had a want to be with Dash and didn't want any interference at all. That interference being a direct result of Pinkie in the picture. So she was forceful and even bullied the pony, even others to try and optimize her time with Rainbow Dash. Does that make it better? No, it does not. Still, she's no evil.

 

A more easily identifiable evil would be the Flim Flam Brothers. They tried to ruin business from other towns, in the episode Equestria was their next stop, and make their cider the stuff only they could sell effectively monopolizing their product. While not the evil that could hurt others physically, this would have devastating results on the Applejack family and anyone pertaining to close ties with them (Filthy Rich being an example here).

 

If anyone has any doubts on their evil being an issue, just look up the effects of what Monopolization of anything can actually do to people. An example you say? Okay. The Bell company here in the states had full monopolization of the phone companies until the 80's. Did you know we had technology for cell phones dating around the 1940's? Wanna know why we didn't have them then? Bell didn't want to have a product that could damage their sales figures and kept the cell phone behind doors. It wasn't until the 80's that they were effectively closed from their system and forced to sell their company in bits - you may know those bits to being AT&T and Verizon primarily.

 

So no.

Trixie is not evil.

Gilda is not evil.

[Hylian Warrior 17]

Nah she;s not evil evil, she's just considered an antagonist, mostly to Twilight Sparkle, since they have similar abilities, she's just a showw off but I fond her a cool character =)

[weegeez 150]

Trixie isn't really evil. She is just REALLY REALLY REALLY overrated. I mean REALLY overrated...

[Lightning Flicker 101]

Finally I know that I'm not alone in believing Trixie isn't evil. Well, it's true.. Anyways, on to my point, she's show offy, she boasts, and does cause problems in the show. But she's a performer! It's her job to over do things and over sell. It's true she could have been a bit nicer off stage, but honestly, that's no reason for people to hate on her and call her evil.

[Thunderstorm 120]

I've never thought she was evil, though I think she's too full of herself. I mean, she said she could defeat an Ursa Major, but couldn't even handle an Ursa Minor.

[ponyvangelist 732]

Drawn That Way

 

My "brief" ode to, and apologia for, The Great And Powerful Trixie can be found here: The Adorable One-Trick Pony

 

With an eye to honoring the Geneva Conventions against wanton cruelty, I'll try to keep this shorter, and summarize my position thusly...

 

Trixie is an innocent victim of persecution by the Mane Six. There she was, putting on a free show for the amusement and pleasure of the good ponies of Ponyville, amazing everypony and harming nopony, when she was set upon by the most boorish and unruly of hecklers: our little ponies!

 

It all went downhill from there.

 

Yes, my friends, the evidence is all spelled out in shocking detail in my other post. Don't believe what the manestream media tells you!

 

 

Trixie is not evil! Trixie is INNOCENT!

Edited July 31, 2012 by ponyvangelist

[Lightning Flicker 101]

Drawn That Way

 

My "brief" ode to, and apologia for, The Great And Powerful Trixie can be found here: The Adorable One-Trick Pony

 

With an eye to honoring the Geneva Conventions against wanton cruelty, I'll try to keep this shorter, and summarize my position thusly...

 

Trixie is an innocent victim of persecution by the Mane Six. There she was, putting on a free show for the amusement and pleasure of the good ponies of Ponyville, amazing everypony and harming nopony, when she was set upon by the most boorish and unruly of hecklers: our little ponies!

 

It all went downhill from there.

 

Yes, my friends, the evidence is all spelled out in shocking detail in my other post. Don't believe what the manestream media tells you!

 

 

Trixie is not evil! Trixie is INNOCENT!

 

Wow, I never even thought about that. But it's so true! I'm gonna cry in a corner now, yeah... But I'm glad this was brought to my attention.

[Samurshy 708]

Lies beget lies, and coming from equestria where most every pony tells the truth, it means she is a bad pony. Not necessarily evil just bad. She treated every one of her members of her audience like they were all nothing more than dirt. She claimed to be the best unicorn but all she did was catch ponies off guard with cheap parlor spells that was harming or demeaning to the ponies who were up on the stage with her. She is a mean condescending jerk. And I would not be to broken up if I never saw her character again.

[Filly Pinkie Pie 208]

Trixie is not evil, which is otherwise agreement. Trixie is just a show-off. Compare her to the differences of Gilda:

 

Trixie:showed off, bragged, lied

Gilda:was mean to the ponies, made Fluttershy cry

 

I personally think anyone who makes Fluttershy cry is way worse than Trixie.

[ponyvangelist 732]

I personally think anyone who makes Fluttershy cry is way worse than Trixie.

Indeed. In a place where friendship is magic and love and tolerance are the law of the land, making Fluttershy cry (at least on purpose -- she's kind of sensitive) is the one unpardonable sin.

 

Trixie has her issues, but Gilda deserves a date with Colonel Sanders.

[Somebody 570]

She is a mean condescending jerk. And I would not be to broken up if I never saw her character again.

 

Trixie has her issues, but Gilda deserves a date with Colonel Sanders.

 

Why are you guys so mean??

 

I like to think there's always a chance for redemption among friends, even if one has done something really bad. Bullies usually have a hidden side to them--an insecure side. They are afraid of something, and they feel inadequate. All they really need is a true friend! Granted, it's their choice whether to accept friendship or not, but I like to think it's never too late for someone to change their mind.

 

I hope we get a "Trixie's Redemption" episode.

Edited July 31, 2012 by Questio

[Sunny Fox 5,952]

Why are you guys so mean??

 

I like to think there's always a chance for redemption among friends, even if one has done something really bad. Bullies usually have a hidden side to them--an insecure side. They are afraid of something, and they feel inadequate. All they really need is a true friend! Granted, it's their choice whether to accept friendship or not, but I like to think it's never too late for someone to change their mind.

 

I hope we get a "Trixie's Redemption" episode.

 

Again, I have to ask: If people are so keen on the idea of a "Trixie redemption" episode, why not a "Gilda redemption" episode? Doesn't that make just as much sense? Edited July 31, 2012 by Full Spectrum

[Somebody 570]

Again, I have to ask: If people are so keen on the idea of a "Trixie redemption" episode, why not a "Gilda redemption" episode? Doesn't that make just as much sense?

 

That works, too. I love "redemption" stories, so I don't care who gets one. I just mentioned a Trixie one because that's what the thread is about.

Edited July 31, 2012 by Questio