Is Applebloom more Mane Six worthy than Applejack?

[Rainbow Derp 24]

I love Applejack she shouldn't be replaced... Applebloom is great for the CMC, The reason Applejack is so boring compared to the rest of the mane 6 is the fact that she is ALWAYS working, what I think is an easy fix for this is an epsisode set in the winter time... (before winter wrap up time) when Applejack is NOT working, the episode must work on developing her character much more, give her a full song, expose more flaws, and give her some good jokes! and I guarantee she will be loved just as much as she was at the beginning of season 1... I'm seeing too many posts like this and I think it's time something is done about it!

[windy_prance 114]

"Out of the mouth of babes" comes to mind.

 

Because Apple Bloom is so young, I feel that Apple Bloom would have a bigger impact when speaking from the heart than if Applejack was doing it. Thus making her a better representation of element of honesty.

 

Even if you guys think Apple Bloom isn't the picture perfect example of honesty, you can say the same for Rarity with generosity. However Rarity's episodes are more memorable than Applejack's because it's the journey that counts and shows at the end how Rarity is generosity.

 

In the case of Apple Jack...her understanding of her element ended before it even started. Thus not entertaining or memorable.

 

That's why I think Apple Bloom would be a better Mane Six pony.

[Spell Shock 56]

*Read through the topic quickly*

Well, I do not know how it costumed to write your opinion on forums like that, at least not in Russia, so I will do it like that anyways. Anything below is just my opinion, to say on the matter, not a reply to anyone.  

 

Apple Bloom is… more fitting to play importance of truth, but otherwise Applejack beats her for the role many’o’times. Apple Bloom is a filly, so she can and in fact lies sometimes, like AJ does and both fail at this different amount of times. Which isn’t really in the spirit of EoH, but when again – she is better suited to showcase importance of telling the truth. Since, well – I kind of found all lessons which AJ learned about always telling the truth kind of… stretched. I mean, there is no reason for her to do half of stuff she pulled off at one point or another.

 

But naw, I think AJ is fine. Besides, would be kind of weird having younger pony be in a group of mares.

 

( I never reply to anyone as my first post in any not RPG topic, so excuse me for repeating if anything was said already, that's just my opinion in full ;3)

Edited December 6, 2012 by Spell Shock

[windy_prance 114]

I also want to add that I think Apple Jack would benefit from being a side character. By having Apple Bloom as the element of honesty, Apple Jack can become a mentor as well as sister to Apple Bloom. AJ can teach her sister the true friendship that comes from honesty, not only helping Apple Bloom grow as a pony but also fleshing out AJ's character in the process.

[Dreadmallon 353]

No because, as everyone else has said, Applejack has learned much already due to prior knowledge. However, I do agree that they need to revolve more episodes around her.

 

I already consider Applebloom as the unofficial leader of the CMC (I don't know why, tbh), and to replace would just be strange and unnecessary. Twilight, Rainbow, Fluttershy, Pinkie Pie, and Rarity have more chemistry with Applejack than any of the CMC.

 

Think of the Mane 6 as like a major league team, whilst the CMC are their minor team affiliate. To remove an important player from both teams, and switch them, then yes, the results may be good in terms of skill and on paper. However, the chemistry between players is not there, and you'll find that even with a skilled player (much more so AJ in the CMC than AB in the M6), you'll be a losing team. This is the same with this situation. To switch the characters would ruin the chemistry, and jeopardize the group itself in the future.

Edited December 7, 2012 by Dusk the Raider

[Homura Akemi 974]

I disagree.

 

Applejack isn't my favourite, but Apple Bloom would not do well as a mane 6 character. Despite having a brief encounter-like relationship with her elder sister's friends such as Twilight Sparkle and Fluttershy, Apple Bloom would be too young to be hanging out with them as casual friends. Apple Bloom's age is equivalent to an elementary school girl, which about about 8 to 9 years old. The mane 6 are young adults who have jobs of their own. While an approximate age is up-to-debate, that means they could be around 18 - 22. It would be okay for a 3rd grader to have a very casual friendship with a 20-year-old, but for her to be hanging out with 5 of them as their "group member" would be inappropriate in my book. She doesn't even have her cutie mark yet. What good would that be? A bearer of any Element of Harmony should know her place in life before ever taking up an honour role for the safety of Equestria. Even more episodes would revolve around her getting her cutie mark. I'm not one of the fans who detests the CMC episodes like some do, but I think there's already enough subplot around Apple Bloom's unknown talent.

 

Apple Bloom belongs with the Cutie Mark Crusaders, hanging with ponies her own age with similar mindsets as her. If she were in the picture more, due to her age, she would end up being a female counterpart of Spike, not to mention what would Sweetie Belle and Scootaloo's purpose in the show be without their leader? 

Edited December 6, 2012 by Dίsmajo

[hawkflame 3,310]

No.  No way.  Problem is, Apple Bloom's not their equal.  I'm not talking about her quality as a character, but rather their respective standings in life.  She's a little filly.  How many 20 year olds have a 10 year old kid in their core group of friends?  Plus it would make no sense for her to replace her sister in a group of grown mares who have forged that friendship by going through hell and back in saving Equestria multiple times.  Inserting Apple Bloom and demoting Applejack would do nothing but devalue the friendship that the Mane Six already share.  The way I see it, the Mane Six aren't just a group of friends, they're Sisters For Life. 

 

Besides, doing so would break up AB's own group of absolute BFFs. 

[Lightning Fluttershy 1,844]

 

For one, I don't think Applebloom is nearly as interesting as Applejack who was actually given some back story.

 

Applebloom does not represent a single element of harmony and I doubt she ever will.

 

Applebloom is too young for me to see to take on the adventures that the mane six do.

 

Applejack is sexy -- Applebloom is not.

 

Applebloom already has an ongoing story as a cutie mark crusader.

 

Applejack represents the element of honesty and the mane six would be incomplete without her.

 

Applebloom is much too naive and less experienced in the "real world" than Applejack.

 

 

Long story short, I think Applebloom would make an awful mane character. She's fine as a secondary.

[Dusty Soul 2,613]

No, because Applebloom has her own group and Applejack has hers.  Applejack is a big sister character to more then just one pony.  She offers advice to all the other ponies of the mane 6.  Applebloom, though she has more screen time, just wouldn't fit, as she is only a filly.

[~Asuka <3~ 867]

If Clarity sees this, then shit's goin' down.  

 

Anyway, I don't think so.  The age difference between Applebloom and Applejack is one reason.  It doesn't seam plausible for a filly to be in with a group of mares around the age of twenty.  There would be a maturity conflict.  Also, Applebloom has Scootaloo and Sweetie Belle.  Leaving them for the mane six wouldn't be a cool move.  

 

Applejack is a great, and overall important, character for the show.  Without her, there would be something large missing from both the show and my heart (cheesy line?  cheesy line).  

 

On a physical note, I can't imagine MLP without that kickass cowboy hat.  

Edited December 7, 2012 by TrixieLover97

[Shanks 10,816]

I may be a bit biased since Applejack is my favorite of the Mane 6 but no I don't think so. I like Applebloom but I would have to say my favorite of the Cutie Mark Crusaders is Sweetie Belle which is kind of interesting since her sister Rarity is actually my least favorite of the Mane 6. But I think even she shouldn't be replaced, though I do think they should emphasize a few more of her positive traits as I think that far too many of her negative traits and not nearly enough of her positive traits. Her vanity is out of control, it is even worse than Rainbow Dash's arrogance and that is saying something.

[Starshine 16,335]

To be fair, Applebloom is hardly the honest-est ponies in the Ponyville, and afaik she's not very close with Twilight and Rainbow Dash, two of which are almost the basics requirement of being Mane Six.

[Mephala 2,634]

I laughed when I read this title.

 

 

I mean, Applebloom can't suddenly become an Element, for one thing. The entire point of an Element is to be a once in a really long time type thing. Something that is rare and only to be used in the most desperate of circumstances.

There's also the huge age difference between the ponies.

The CMC would fall apart without her, since she seems to be the driving force behind it.

 

Applejack is just as important as the other ponies. So she doesn't have the biggest fanbase, and she's generally ignored, but she's a strong and wonderful character. Throwing her in the trash is a stupid idea, and I would be VERY upset if anyone was to do something like that to her.

The problem is that they always turn Applejack episodes into episodes about the Mane Six, and she never gets much screentime. 

 

No offense, but this is a terrible idea. Not sure what your thoughts were here.

[Wubsie 1,123]

No.

Applebloom is a good character I'll give you that, but she can't replace the most badass pony out of the mane 6.

Applejack is a really good character with an amazing personality.

She can't be replaced by Applebloom.

TL;DR: Applejack > Applebloom

Side note: Clarity's gonna flip shit when she sees this. *gets popcorn*

Edited December 7, 2012 by Chalk The Chao

[PonyEcho 1,610]

 

 

Side note: Clarity's gonna flip shit when she sees this. *gets popcorn*

 

she's already seen it and i think she's speechless, i don't her reaction ( a nuclear explosion of anger) could fit the charactor limit

 

anyway since a mod deleted my opinion i thought i would just make it again

 

think for a moment, what would happen if they did this and replaced AppleJack with AB they wouldn't be able to rely justify it unless the replace the rest of the mane six, keep in mind the slice of life and other stuff works because the mane six are roughly the same age, so they would have to cut the mythic adventure episodes out to compensate.

 

there is also continuity to consider, part of MLP FIMs charm is that it was made so you could watch any episode in any order (out side of a few of course that do require you watch them in order).

 

and the final thing I will say is, why has hating on AJ become the latest trend, it seem like it just something people are doing because its popular and worst of all its without logic.

[Lamer 11]

No. Hell no.

Apple Bloom is only 9, while Applejack is turning 17 next day.

Apple Bloom does not even have her cutie mark.

And some things about sassy personality you listed do not mean anything.

[Sugar Cube 4,843]

Snip

 

Oh dear. I'm glad this topic is old news. Still, I'm gonna reply because defending Applejack's honor is what I do.

 

1. I'm really happy for Apple Bloom that she's had three episodes of focus so far. She's one of my favorite characters in the show and is full of personality and charm. But guess what? Applejack has had seven episodes.

 

1. Applebuck Season

2. Look Before You Sleep (Co-starred with Rarity)

3. Fall Weather Friends (Co-starred with Rainbow Dash)

4. The Last Roundup

5. The Super Speedy Cider Squeezy 6000 (Yes, this is an Applejack episode because the central conflict revolves around her)

6. Apple Family Reunion

7. Spike At Your Service

 

I'll forgive your post because you made these silly claims before those last two episodes even aired, but I still have plenty to talk about.

 

2. Yes, Apple Bloom has a more sassy personality. But how does that make her any better of a character than Applejack? Sassy-ness is something Rainbow Dash already does very well, and we don't need two Rainbow Dash's in one group. Applejack fills her role as the mature pony. She rounds out the gang by being the level-headed one who doesn't flip her lid when things go wrong. I'm sick and tired of people wanting her to be more crazy. Is it a sin to have a main character who is mentally stable and has a grip on themselves? That's part of why I love Applejack. So you dislike her for being the "normal" one, that doesn't mean her character needs adjusting. We need variance in the Mane Six, not a bunch of sassy ponies. And if you pay attention, you'll see that Applejack has it in her to be very sarcastic, witty, confrontational, and downright ornery at times. She has plenty of personality.

 

3. In almost every Applejack episode (the seven that I listed) Applejack learns some kind of lesson, except for the Cider episode, and perhaps SAYS. I have NO idea at all why people insist she hasn't learned anything, when she wrote three letters to Celestia so far, (one in which she learned nothing) and in all three of her season 1 episodes, she learned many lessons in stubbornness, pride, playing fair, and getting along with others, and she has been consistent in her character growth. She was the only character other than Pinkie Pie to even write a letter in season 3, so I fail to see how she is any less capable of learning and teaching lessons than the rest of the characters. One common criticism with Applejack is that her "character is fully explored" and that she's somehow not capable of learning anymore. Balderdash. People don't ever stop learning. How can anyone go around saying her character is fully explored when the show is still exploring her character?! Do you know how stupid that sounds? Yeah, I'm getting off-topic, so I'll save that for a blog or something.

 

4. Applejack isn't always farming either. Out of the seven episodes I mentioned, TWO episodes revolved around her farm life: Applebuck Season, and SSCS6K. She's done sleepovers, competitions, family reunions, saving Spike from Timberwolves, and tons of other things. Besides, she lives on a farm. Naturally, she's going to be doing a lot of farming. Applejack without apples, farms, and her family would be like Twilight without books and magic, Rainbow Dash without Wonderbolts and flying, Rarity without fashion designing, Pinkie Pie without parties, and Fluttershy without animals. You could just as easily say that the other five are one-trick-ponies whose episodes revolve around the same thing. It wouldn't be any more or less truthful than saying Applejack is always farming.

 

Apple Bloom is a fine character, but she is very simplistic and easy to figure out, whereas with Applejack there's a lot more than meets the eye. Apple Bloom would not mesh well with the others because of her age. Applejack is a much stronger character. She makes a great starring character, as well as a great support character. Who else would act as a chaperone to the Cutie Mark Crusaders? Who else would have selflessly helped Fluttershy around the mountain in Dragonshy? Who else would have had the patience and wisdom to help Rarity's sister problems with Sweetie Belle? And whenever somepony is down in the dumps, Applejack is almost always the first to notice. She knew something was bothering Scootaloo in SiP, and she knew Twilight Sparkle was down in A Canterlot Wedding. Applejack is the only character in the show who fits the ticket to do these types of things. That's why she is a key character, and the show would never be the same without her. She also is the only Mane Six character who is in any position to give us lessons about not just friendship, but family as well. There's only so much Apple Bloom can teach us because of her age.

 

Applejack is a wonderful character. So wonderful that I am happy to conclude this monstrous wall of text that probably no one will read.

Edited June 6, 2013 by Sugar Cube

[Astrobrony 655]

If they ever did My Little Pony: the Next Generation with all the foals grown up, then yes Applebloom would be the main character.  At this moment however....

 

 

Applebloom is just too young and way too impatient to hang out as a regular friend to the others.  She's still got a lot to learn and to her credit, she's learning the lessons she needs to.  AB's time will come to shine on her own, but not yet.

[Dopey Hooves 90]

I don't really think Apple Bloom should be in the main 6. Just because, she gets more screen time being a fool, doing crazy crap and trying to get her cutie mark doesn't clearly state she should be in the main 6.  Apple Jack should be in the main six because, she's the smart one, has prior knowledge and she is always the one that makes My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic have more action other than Rainbow Dash.. She doesn't really need to know the meaning of friendship, I think she's old enough to have comprehended that already just saying. and Why in the world would a filly be a main character, i'm not saying it's a bad thing but, it wouldn't have been the best choice say if it was Apple Bloom, maybe if another filly was a main character I would be ok but, just not Apple Bloom never..

Edited June 7, 2013 by Dopey Hooves

[Away 2,077]

I just imagined Apple Bloom replacing Applejack in the show's intro. Can you imagine that? Lol. I never understood why Applejack was considered a background pony anyway.

[Scootalove 10,689]

I don't think Apple Bloom should be in the Mane Six because, she is already happy with the Cutie Mark Crusaders. I still don't know why people call Applejack a background pony but anyway, she is too young and I don't think AB would want to be in the Mane Six wanting to fight 24/7 against new villains. Apple Bloom and AJ are happy just the way they are.

[An Old Head 4,816]

No. Simply put, she can't wield an Element of Harmony. Stay in the CMC as is your role on TV, Apple Bloom! :3

 

But in all honesty, she's fine in her current position. She might seem a bit more level-headed than her older sister at times, but here's how I see it - Apple Bloom, being young and being the leader of the CMC, is trying extra hard to appear responsible and headstrong. Applejack, being older and already renowned for her level-headedness, can often think it fine to take a back seat or do new social endeavours that she believes to be practical, which is where AB just manages to be the more sensible one in some situations.

[CandyRush 75]

  She is too young and immature. She is still trying to find her cutiemark which will conflict with the important events. What if someone needs to be fought off. What if Discord isn't really a good guy and he needs to be defeated. She doesn't have your Element of Harmony so she can't defeat and help. And they need 6 ponies. She wouldn't be wanted in the Mane 6 at that moment. 

 

  I don't know her element will be because I know it is not honesty, episode Bad Seed proves it when she isn't being honest and not telling AJ about Babs Seed. I don't know what part of harmony Apple Bloom is. 

 

  Apple Bloom isn't fit to be in the Mane. It's the truth. Not trying to offend your creativity, but I don't know why someone would think to put Apple Bloom in the Mane 6. It's my opinion and most of these users opinions, too.

[Spring Storm 276]

Um... did you perhaps lick one sugarcube too many? Not to be mean or anything, I just don't see how anyone could think Applejack should be replaced while their brain is under normal, non-sugar-crazy circumstances. Applejack is a GREAT character. Does she need more depth and exploration thereof? Yes. But that doesn't mean she's a bad character, not at all. I personally think she's a better character than Apple Bloom, though I sitll think Apple Bloom is a great character too

[Sweet Dreams 1,893]

LOLWUT. No. Applejack is a grown, mature pony who's hardworking and honest. Apple Bloom isn't very honest, from what I've seen. She's not only too young, she's also not even mature enough to get her cutie mark, let alone an Element of Harmony.