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[FortyTwo42 1,287]

  On 2015-09-19 at 2:57 AM, Stormgiggle said:

You've seen through my trick, 42! That is indeed correct. Congratulations!

 

  On 2015-09-19 at 2:57 AM, Stormgiggle said:

Cheating!? Why I would never cheat, 42! You never said that I couldn't shine a light through the cards, therefore it couldn't be considered cheating! I solved the puzzle using logic, isn't that what you're supposed to do?

Alright, let's put it this way: The only answers I'm accepting are subsets of {A, K, 3, 7}. The answer I get should only be a single set.

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  On 2015-09-19 at 3:06 AM, FortyTwo42 said:

 

Alright, let's put it this way: The only answers I'm accepting are subsets of {A, K, 3, 7}. The answer I get should only be a single set.

 

I'm afraid you've lost me... 

[FortyTwo42 1,287]

  On 2015-09-19 at 3:08 AM, Stormgiggle said:

 

I'm afraid you've lost me... 

The subsets of {A, K, 3, 7}, and hence your possible answers, are:

{A}

{K}

{3}

{7}

{A, K}

{A, 3}

{A, 7}

{K, 3}

{K, 7}

{3, 7}

{A, K, 3}

{A, K, 7}

{A, 3, 7}

{K, 3, 7}

{A, K, 3, 7}

 

Choose the sets whose contents have the cards you need to check in order to verify the conjecture while checking the minimum number of cards required to do so.

 

Oh, and technically { } (the empty set) is a subset too, but that's obviously not the solution.

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  On 2015-09-19 at 3:14 AM, FortyTwo42 said:

The subsets of {A, K, 3, 7}, and hence your possible answers, are:

{A}

{K}

{3}

{7}

{A, K}

{A, 3}

{A, 7}

{K, 3}

{K, 7}

{3, 7}

{A, K, 3}

{A, K, 7}

{A, 3, 7}

{K, 3, 7}

{A, K, 3, 7}

 

Choose the sets whose contents have the cards you need to check in order to verify the conjecture while checking the minimum number of cards required to do so.

 

Oh, and technically { } (the empty set) is a subset too, but that's obviously not the solution.

Oh. I already chose the empty set, and I'm sticking by that answer.  I can justify my answer, but you probably won't like it, and you'll call me a cheater again.  -_-

[FortyTwo42 1,287]

  On 2015-09-19 at 3:18 AM, Stormgiggle said:

Oh. I already chose the empty set, and I'm sticking by that answer.  I can justify my answer, but you probably won't like it, and you'll call me a cheater again.  -_-

Alright, let's hear it! How are you cheating creatively bending the rules this time?

 

By the way, the correct answer is:

*Drumroll*

 

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{A, 7}

Here's why:

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Let's go through the cards one-by-one:

A: You need to check this card, as if it has a 3 on the other side, the conjecture is false.

K: You don't need to check this card as no matter what is on the other side, the conjecture will remain true. This is still the case if K has a 3 on the other side, as the conjecture is an 'if-then' statement in disguise - 'if and A is on one side, then a 3 is on the other'. The conjecture doesn't state say anything about what should be on the other side if 3 is on one side.

3: You don't need to check this card for a similar reason to K: if an A is on the other side, the card has an A on one side and a 3 on the other, so the conjecture is true. If the card has any other letter on the other side, then the conjecture doesn't say anything about it as it doesn't have an A.

7: You need to check this card as if the other side has an A, then the conjecture will be false. We need to make sure this card has a letter other than A on the other side.

 

 

[Ganaram Inukshuk 3,682]

I hate being tired...

@@FortyTwo42, 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7NE7apn-PA

 

This is also why I couldn't answer a very simple question that's the zeroth law of thermodynamics: if all <weird name 1> are <weird name 2> and all <weird name 2> are <weird name 3>, are all <weird name 1> <weird name 3>? Stripping away the context doesn't help.

Edited September 19, 2015 by Ganaram Inukshuk

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  On 2015-09-19 at 3:29 AM, FortyTwo42 said:

Alright, let's hear it! How are you cheating creatively bending the rules this time?

Okay! You said: "What is the minimum number of cards I need to check(The original wording was turn over but you changed it to check) to verify whether this statement is true, and what cards are they? You don't have to check any of the cards if I check them instead and then tell you what's on each side. That way you'll be able to determine if every A card has a three on the back without turning any of them over. It's not against the rules as far as I can tell.

 

 

  On 2015-09-19 at 3:30 AM, Ganaram Inukshuk said:

I hate being tired...

Then you should probably go to bed...

[FortyTwo42 1,287]

  On 2015-09-19 at 3:30 AM, Ganaram Inukshuk said:

I hate being tired...

@@FortyTwo42, 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7NE7apn-PA

 

This is also why I couldn't answer a very simple question that's the zeroth law of thermodynamics: if all <weird name 1> are <weird name 2> and all <weird name 2> are <weird name 3>, are all <weird name 1> <weird name 3>? Stripping away the context doesn't help.

That's pretty much the same problem, but I actually heard about it from a different video, not that one. That's why the numbers in my problem are slightly different, but the underlying logic is the same.

 

Is sounds like you basically have the question 'if all A are B, and all B are C, are all A C?'; to which my answer is yes. All A must be C as all B are C, so if all A are B, all A must be C too. Although this situation wouldn't work in reverse; if all A are B, that doesn't mean all B are A.

 

A, B, and C don't sound like words or letters to me anymore.

  On 2015-09-19 at 3:38 AM, Stormgiggle said:

Okay! You said: "What is the minimum number of cards I need to check(The original wording was turn over but you changed it to check) to verify whether this statement is true, and what cards are they? You don't have to check any of the cards if I check them instead and then tell you what's on each side. That way you'll be able to determine if every A card has a three on the back without turning any of them over. It's not against the rules as far as I can tell.

So, you're saying I don't need to check any cards if I get you to check them for me? Technically, I still consider it 'checking' if I do so by getting someone else to look at it and read it out to me. It'll be like using a camera to take a picture of the other side without looking at it myself, then claiming it was the camera that checked, not me.

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  On 2015-09-19 at 4:03 AM, FortyTwo42 said:

It'll be like using a camera to take a picture of the other side without looking at it myself, then claiming it was the camera that checked, not me.

That's a good idea!  

[Haven Celestii 9,385]

  On 2015-09-19 at 2:22 AM, A.I. Pony said:

MEEM!

 

 

You really hate yellow, don't you?

Yellow is a pretty terrible color, tbh. Everything it is placed on becomes worse. Fact.

  On 2015-09-19 at 2:27 AM, Count Paradox said:

maaaaaaybe. Ill probably play levels, not really make em.

 

why senran kagura 2 then?

Cause Level Creators are lame.

Edited September 19, 2015 by Miss H

[Count Paradox 3,548]

  On 2015-09-19 at 4:31 AM, Miss H said:

Yellow is a pretty terrible color, tbh. Everything it is placed on becomes worse. Fact.

 

Cause Level Creators are lame.

Even Shyshy? ;-;

[Haven Celestii 9,385]

  On 2015-09-19 at 4:56 AM, Count Paradox said:

Even Shyshy? ;-;

Yes.

[Ganaram Inukshuk 3,682]

@@Count Paradox, ever heard of the one time Runescape got a My Little Pony reference thrown into it?

 

I don't remember these things.

[Delzepp 2,939]

  On 2015-09-18 at 10:16 PM, Lil'Cinnamon said:

WHAAAT?! How is Kirby ugly?! You gotta be kidding and joking. What, you don't like Kirby at all? What's wrong with Kirby?

chill mate, it was a joke; the main question was why is lil'c not on your avatar anymore? although I thought it would be implied, guess I was wrong

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  On 2015-09-19 at 4:56 AM, Count Paradox said:

Even Shyshy? ;-;

Especially Shyshy.

[Count Paradox 3,548]

  On 2015-09-19 at 3:10 PM, A.I. Pony said:

Especially Shyshy.

ur dead tu mi. ;-;

Well...

 

I picked it up.

 

 

I think it will be fun.

 

It came with two CDs containing 60 songs.

 

Next, to buy Mario maker and Project Mirai.

[Ganaram Inukshuk 3,682]

  On 2015-09-19 at 6:00 PM, Count Paradox said:

Next, to buy Mario maker and Project Mirai.

I keep hearing about that; what is it?

 

Why do there have to be keyboards with the ridiculously huge enter key and displaced backslash key?

[Lil'Cinnamon 1,587]

  On 2015-09-19 at 6:16 PM, Ganaram Inukshuk said:

I keep hearing about that; what is it?

 

Why do there have to be keyboards with the ridiculously huge enter key and displaced backslash key?

 

-pokes Ganny- Hey how are you doing today? I was posting in here yesterday but I wasn't really being talked to. xD

 

And because I dunno! The keyboard I am using doesn't have that thank goodness. xD But why? Who know, because they want. There are weird keyboards too that I have seen that I dunno how to type on. xD I am used to this kind of keyboard. xD

[Ganaram Inukshuk 3,682]

  On 2015-09-19 at 6:25 PM, Lil'Cinnamon said:

 

-pokes Ganny- Hey how are you doing today? I was posting in here yesterday but I wasn't really being talked to. xD

 

And because I dunno! The keyboard I am using doesn't have that thank goodness. xD But why? Who know, because they want. There are weird keyboards too that I have seen that I dunno how to type on. xD I am used to this kind of keyboard. xD

 

I was really exhausted for no reason yesteryester. I know there are weirder keyboards, but are there any where I can freely rearrange the keys? That's a dumb question; you kinda can, but are there any where the ergonomics don't get in the way?

 

Then there's the issue of waking up...

[Lil'Cinnamon 1,587]

  On 2015-09-19 at 6:27 PM, Ganaram Inukshuk said:

I was really exhausted for no reason yesteryester. I know there are weirder keyboards, but are there any where I can freely rearrange the keys? That's a dumb question; you kinda can, but are there any where the ergonomics don't get in the way?

 

Then there's the issue of waking up...

 

Aww that is no good. Being exhausted is no fun, I have been exhausted before too. Soo. There should be some, the keyboard I have I know that I can take keys off and such. But I don't because I don't need to do that. I mean my laptop keyboard I can't though. The keys are fragile on the laptop but I usually use a separate keyboard anyway.

[Haven Celestii 9,385]

  On 2015-09-19 at 6:16 PM, Ganaram Inukshuk said:

I keep hearing about that; what is it?

Its nothing but a Mario based level creator. You make levels, share them, play others, etc.

[Ganaram Inukshuk 3,682]

  On 2015-09-19 at 6:30 PM, Lil'Cinnamon said:

There should be some, the keyboard I have I know that I can take keys off and such. But I don't because I don't need to do that. I mean my laptop keyboard I can't though. The keys are fragile on the laptop but I usually use a separate keyboard anyway.

True story: I once spilled soda on my second laptop on the very day I first got it and for the duration of me having it until the day it suffered a hard drive crash, the spacebar key was always sticking to itself. And so, at some point, I started using an external keyboard.

[Lil'Cinnamon 1,587]

  On 2015-09-19 at 6:33 PM, Ganaram Inukshuk said:

True story: I once spilled soda on my second laptop on the very day I first got it and for the duration of me having it until the day it suffered a hard drive crash, the spacebar key was always sticking to itself. And so, at some point, I started using an external keyboard.

 

Oh I see, aww. That's no good. Well I have a new picture of me!

 

This was made by the user @Emerald Star on here. She did a good job with it! What do you guys think? =3

Edited September 19, 2015 by Lil'Cinnamon

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  On 2015-09-19 at 2:57 AM, Stormgiggle said:

Cheating!? Why I would never cheat, 42!

 

This is a lie.

 

  On 2015-09-19 at 6:43 PM, Lil'Cinnamon said:

Well I have a new picture of me!

 

This was made by the user @Emerald Star on here. She did a good job with it! What do you guys think? =3

 

I really like his... mane?

[Ganaram Inukshuk 3,682]

  On 2015-09-19 at 6:43 PM, Lil'Cinnamon said:

Oh I see, aww. That's no good. Well I have a new picture of me!

Smug Cinny is smug.