Pony Genetics

[Courageous Thunder Dash 7,824]

So I'm currently studying genetics in my biology class and I decided to open this thread for discussion on pony genetics. 

 

Of course, as we all know there are four species of pony: Earth, Unicorn, Pegasus and Alicorn. 

 

It is also said that Alicorns are not naturally born...well, there is one thing that can happen for an Alicorn to be naturally born. This can happen via a mutation in the chromosomes. 

 

Humans have 23 pairs of chromosomes. 

 

According to Wikipedia, horses have 64 chromosomes, or 32 pairs. 

 

Here's a karyotype, or diagram of chromosomes, for a horse. 

 

 

Now, let's say that pair numbers 30 and 31 were responsible for determining wings and horn. The diagram shown above would be the karyotype for a normal earth pony. But, for a unicorn, there would be an extra chromosome in pair #30. For a pegasus, the extra one would be in pair #31. For an alicorn, which is extremely rare, both chromosome pairs 30 and 31 would have an extra chromosome. 

 

Alicorns would be sprout only because of a mutation. Just because a pegasus and unicorn breed doesn't mean that the result would an alicorn all the time. It can be either one. This is determined by what is known as a Punnet Square. Don't let the results confuse you. The capital letters represent dominant traits and the small case letters represent recessive traits.

 

 

As you can see from the Punnett Square above, there can be four outcomes. One would automatically assume that the first foal, the red square, would automatically be an Alicorn. REMEMBER, alicorns can only sprout via mutation. Also, the father's traits are usually the dominant traits (this rule only applies to the first foal). The first foal would be a pegasus, the second foal would be a Unicorn, and the third and fourth would also be pegasai. But you're like: "Wait! Both the traits in the fourth foal are recessive. Wouldn't it just be an earth pony?" I see what you're thinking. But remember the rule of dominance? This also applies to the fourth foal as well. 

 

So, let's have a little debate here:

 

Were Princess Celestia and Princess Luna born Alicorns?

 

I say yes. Let's take this a little out of the canon shall we? Princess Galexia, Princess Celestia and Luna's mother bred with their father, Prince Universto. Because they were both Alicorns, they could breed Alicorns themselves. 

 

This begs yet another question. "If an alicorn breeds with another non-alicorn (Earth, Pegasus or Unicorn), wouldn't it produce just another alicorn? 

 

Well, actually no. If the mutation is passed on then yes. But otherwise no. This may confuse some people due to the Punnett square situation, as the Punnett square would produce 3 alicorn foals. 

 

Well, what's your opinion on pony genetics?

Edited October 21, 2013 by Thunder-Dash

[Plasmastorm X-15 162]

If this is accurately true, then there's a loop hole in so many places. Between the show and the fandom. Mainly the fandom. This will be funny.

[Malinter 3,064]

I'd go with the mutation route. maybe even engineered. Surely the idea of a pony possessing both a horn and wings must have existed before but back when the 3 tribes were distrustful, the chances of a unicorn and a pegasus mating were more or less 0.

Edited October 21, 2013 by Malinter

[Denim&Venöm 19,123]

High school education, you have once again failed me.

 

But there is another set of traits to consider for ponies that are mind boggling: coat, mane and eye colors. We have ponies that don't have traits matching their parents. Twilight Sparkle for example. Mom has white coat. Dad has blue coat. Twi has purple coat. It would only be possible if a grandparent on each side of the family had a purple coat. 

 

Mom has purple and white mane. Dad has blue mane. Twi has violet mane with purple and red streaks. How does that work? It doesn't add up, either genetically or by how the colors would mix. I'm not even touching the two or more colored manes that many ponies posses as I have no clue on how those would get passed down or decided.

[Chevette 1,052]

Opinion on Pony Genetics? 

Well buddy, you automatically caught me with a corndog on that one. Even if I have no idea what I'm getting myself into, I love to completely share what I think even If it is totally unrelated and frowned upon. So kids, sit back, buckle up and grab a snack because I'm about to lay it on ya home-dawgs.

 

Alright, so pony genetics eh? (Yeah that's right, I didn't capitalize it this time) 

Sure you got all sorts of fancy science-y stuff there to back up your idea, but being the fellow I am, all I need is the magic of werdz and werd accessories. 

So yeah, you got the little colorful square thingy going on and the squiggly lines, but since this is just "My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic" I have a tingly feeling inside my propane selling arm that none of that really even applies here considering they are basically their own species within themselves. 

So technically (Yes I do use Google chrome to correct my spelling and I love to say "So" a lot in topics) they wouldn't be horses per say, they'd be like their own magical-ass breed of colorful ponies with fucking ass tattoos and the ability to simpleton jobs all of their lives.

 

Okay. We have covered the basic concept, but let's put her in layman's terms, homie. So dawg, let's be all like "Them sumbitches be all colorful and all unique n' shit, dawg. Them real horses be all like "Neiggghhhh homie" the ones in the show be all like "What you be trippin' on, brutha?" So, you be feelin' me dawgs? Because don't be all like "shiiittttt negro, what you be on?" 

 

It's really simple. They just don't have any genetics. They are like, all magic, dude. They do what they want. Like, bro, like, just like, imagine this, dude. 

Since they are exactly what they are, they don't even be up on the same level as as them bruthas from anotha mutha be on, dawg.

 

Ponies are simply just ponies. You can't exactly relate the ones on the show with real ones. Shiiittttt negro, they might even have their own science up in their little world. Oh wait, they do. Magic, bro. It's like, totally everywhere. 

Magic is in the sky, in the trees, in the liquor stores, in Grandma's kitchen, even in the mailman's fucking man purse.

 

So, it's not a question if they use punt it squares or croquet triangles or whatever, the real question is if they even use genetics. See if they don't use genetics, then we the people using the genetics to diagnose the ponies just won't work. Because they run on fucking magic teak oil or some shit.

 

And for the winged ones and the horned ones and even the ones that have both, it still doesn't matter. Magic. They could be born with fucking antlers or some shit and not a soul in ponyville would give a shit. The only time they give a shit when someone's like black or something. Hence the whole Zebra thing. (They just made her a Zebra because they knew they couldn't get away with the whole freaking town wigging out over a black pony)

 

So yeah. That's about it. 

To recap.

-Magic

-Mailmen purses 

-Black Zebras

[Yamato 1,348]

Opinion on Pony Genetics? 

Well buddy, you automatically caught me with a corndog on that one. Even if I have no idea what I'm getting myself into, I love to completely share what I think even If it is totally unrelated and frowned upon. So kids, sit back, buckle up and grab a snack because I'm about to lay it on ya home-dawgs.

 

Alright, so pony genetics eh? (Yeah that's right, I didn't capitalize it this time) 

Sure you got all sorts of fancy science-y stuff there to back up your idea, but being the fellow I am, all I need is the magic of werdz and werd accessories. 

So yeah, you got the little colorful square thingy going on and the squiggly lines, but since this is just "My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic" I have a tingly feeling inside my propane selling arm that none of that really even applies here considering they are basically their own species within themselves. 

So technically (Yes I do use Google chrome to correct my spelling and I love to say "So" a lot in topics) they wouldn't be horses per say, they'd be like their own magical-ass breed of colorful ponies with fucking ass tattoos and the ability to simpleton jobs all of their lives.

 

Okay. We have covered the basic concept, but let's put her in layman's terms, homie. So dawg, let's be all like "Them sumbitches be all colorful and all unique n' shit, dawg. Them real horses be all like "Neiggghhhh homie" the ones in the show be all like "What you be trippin' on, brutha?" So, you be feelin' me dawgs? Because don't be all like "shiiittttt negro, what you be on?" 

 

It's really simple. They just don't have any genetics. They are like, all magic, dude. They do what they want. Like, bro, like, just like, imagine this, dude. 

Since they are exactly what they are, they don't even be up on the same level as as them bruthas from anotha mutha be on, dawg.

 

Ponies are simply just ponies. You can't exactly relate the ones on the show with real ones. Shiiittttt negro, they might even have their own science up in their little world. Oh wait, they do. Magic, bro. It's like, totally everywhere. 

Magic is in the sky, in the trees, in the liquor stores, in Grandma's kitchen, even in the mailman's fucking man purse.

 

So, it's not a question if they use punt it squares or croquet triangles or whatever, the real question is if they even use genetics. See if they don't use genetics, then we the people using the genetics to diagnose the ponies just won't work. Because they run on fucking magic teak oil or some shit.

 

And for the winged ones and the horned ones and even the ones that have both, it still doesn't matter. Magic. They could be born with fucking antlers or some shit and not a soul in ponyville would give a shit. The only time they give a shit when someone's like black or something. Hence the whole Zebra thing. (They just made her a Zebra because they knew they couldn't get away with the whole freaking town wigging out over a black pony)

 

So yeah. That's about it. 

To recap.

-Magic

-Mailmen purses 

-Black Zebras

 

 

Motherfuckin' magic, man... We don't even have to go into a lengthy discussion on double recessive genes and such when the answer is sitting right in front of us. It be what it be, homies.

[Denim&Venöm 19,123]

 

 

Motherfuckin' magic, man... We don't even have to go into a lengthy discussion on double recessive genes and such when the answer is sitting right in front of us. It be what it be, homies.

 

Yeah we do. Science is making MLP more interesting and I'm not going to let you go all Feeling Pinkie Keen on this discussion.

Edited October 25, 2013 by Denim&Venom

[Chevette 1,052]

Yeah we do. Science is making MLP more interesting and I'm not going to let you go all Feeling Pinkie Keen on this discussion.

 

Well lil' buddy.

Magic is in the name of the show, hence "Mah Littul Pwny: Frwendshyp es Mageek". Numbah 2, the main character does always study magic spells n' whatnot, and also, what parts of science can really express anything about a television show about pastel colored magical talking horses. I mean seriously. 

 

Like really bro, even if the ponies do have science, it may be their own kind of it with totally different laws and rules being applied. So there is really no telling on what's going down in the hood. It's either a drive-by or a gang rape.

 

I mean, I pretty much summed it up in my own personal reply. I actually seem to have a nice little trend up on these here forums. Some may say it's a curse, but I just take it as "That dude is to fucking insane to even argue with". Not insane in a good way either. So, it's like racing a minivan. Even if you supposedly beat it, what are you going to tell people? That you beat a minivan? And if you lose, well, you just lost to a minivan.

Edited October 26, 2013 by Emperor Kuzco

[Denim&Venöm 19,123]

Well lil' buddy.

Magic is in the name of the show, hence "Mah Littul Pwny: Frwendshyp es Mageek". Numbah 2, the main character does always study magic spells n' whatnot, and also, what parts of science can really express anything about a television show about pastel colored magical talking horses. I mean seriously. 

 

Like really bro, even if the ponies do have science, it may be their own kind of it with totally different laws and rules being applied. So there is really no telling on what's going down in the hood. It's either a drive-by or a gang rape.

 

I mean, I pretty much summed it up in my own personal reply. I actually seem to have a nice little trend up on these here forums. Some may say it's a curse, but I just take it as "That dude is to fucking insane to even argue with". Not insane in a good way either. So, it's like racing a minivan. Even if you supposedly beat it, what are you going to tell people? That you beat a minivan? And if you lose, well, you just lost to a minivan.

Regardless of what you say, we are still going to figure this out. We are curious individuals who ask the difficult questions and attempt to find the answers. Just because you have no answers to contribute doesn't mean you have the right to label our discussion as futile, just because the show and it's characters are about magic.

[duidamasterXD 9,627]

This thread appears to be discussing MLP:FiM in some way, shape or form. Thus, it has been sentenced to Show Discussion.

 

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[Yamato 1,348]

 

 

We are curious individuals who ask the difficult questions and attempt to find the answers.

 

 

 

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no answers to contribute

 

 

The hell are you smoking? I might want some of that... 

I see answers man, they're right there. Plain as fuckin' day. MAGIC. There's no fuckin' rhyme or reason as to how shit get's passed down because it's FUCKIN' MAGIC. That's what we've been saying all along. If that don't fly with you, then I don't know what kind of answers you're looking for. Forty-fucking-two. How's that for an answer?

 

[Chevette 1,052]

 

 

Just because you have no answers to contribute doesn't mean you have the right to label our discussion as futile, just because the show and it's characters are about magic.

 

Well ya know little buddy *slinky explodes*

The fellow did say "opinion". I'm just tellin' it like it be up in the hood. I mean the essence of magic pretty much illuminates the tunnel this topic resides in, but ya know, fuck it let's go bowling.

 

But yeah dude. I didn't label anything, I just said what I thought as instructed by the post-man. And I didn't even get my fucking mail. You know how that makes me feel? Pretty darn upset with the postal service.