Is the moral of "Feeling Pinkie Keen" good for Christians?

[Malinter 3,064]

The moral of "Feeling Pinkie Keen" is I think is basically about not worrying about things so much just because you don't understand them.

 

So my friend believes in some sky wizard, he can't prove its there, I can't prove its not there.Why argue over something neither can confirm when we can just forget about it and be friends and get on with our lives?

[ASocialyAwkwardPony 299]

I should probably walk away,

but i'm not going to.

 

Athesists are the first people to not offer any quarter calling religion an un necessary crotch,

and yet expect the comforts of re assurance when a family member passes.

I had a friend who was a hard core athesist who use to argue tooth and nail (well okay that was most of them)

 

about there being no after life but the moment one of his friends died "well he's with his mom now."

"I thought you didn't believe in that.?"

 

And i'd get a shitty look as if to say "hay lay off."

 

this is from the exact same people who feel a little less if they can't make you feel dumb for preying.

 

So he tried to be nice to his friend and comfort him/her, and the first thing you do is being a dick about it by pointing out his own beliefs not following the comforts? Dude, you are awful, seriously.

[FoxyCryptid 4,330]

Before the atheism vs, theism argument starts, I need state my opinion on the matter. I consider militant atheism/anti-theism just as bad as blind fundamentalism because both are arrogant and commit the sin of assuming they know everything and have all the answers.    

Edited October 25, 2013 by Shoboni

[BlueEyedPegasus 59]

Not sure if you have seen/heard of this, but Lauren Faust actually had some points to make about this episode, and seeing as this was during a season where she was heavily involved, I feel that it is relevant.

 

http://www.mylittleponynews.com/2011/02/feeling-pinky-keen-controversy.htmlhttp://www.mylittleponynews.com/2011/02/feeling-pinky-keen-controversy.html

Yeah, I read some of that, and I can't say that I agree with her wholeheartedly. I really wish I could contact her personally and tell her how I think it's a very good message to send. Plus, as I've stated before, I recently took this episode's moral up with my mom who shares the same religious views as I do, and she finds it to be a very good moral, because when you think about it long enough, there are great things in the world which are actually impossible to explain, for both religious and non-religious alike. Furthermore, I suggest y'all take this moral up with your parents and ask them what they think of it. You should never be afraid to ask your parents about things like this. It's perfectly alright.

 

Also, does anybody know where I can contact Lauren Faust personally?

[TailsIsNotAlone 3,695]

My answer: not necessarily. Interpreting MLP through the lens of Christianity is selling short its creativity and unconditional embrace of life and living beings. The concept of not denying things you can't explain goes well beyond religious beliefs. In fact, it can even run counter to them.

 

There was nothing wrong about Twilight searching for a logical explanation for Pinkie sense, nor was her failure to find one an indictment of science. Most importantly, the episode was not intended as an endorsement of religion in any way. As Lauren herself said:

 

"From the sounds of it, I really blew it with the letter at the end---- even for people who didn't immediately jump to the conclusion that such a statement could only apply to religion. I wish I could back and clarify it further."

 

Maybe it was a mistake. Honestly, we started the process with the concept of Pinkie having that old fashioned cliche "knee's achey, it's gonna rain," Twilight not buying it and the humor we thought came out of that."

[BlueEyedPegasus 59]

the episode was not intended as an endorsement of religion in any way.

I know. That's why I've come to realize that its moral is not specifically aimed at religious people like myself. It's aimed at all people with different beliefs in general. If anything at all, it helps us all realize that the least you can do with certain things you can't explain is learn to have faith in them, even if it means to learn to accept them for what they are. I wasn't afraid to ask my mom about this, and she agrees that there are things that not even we Christians can explain. Same applies to people of science. If I could give you a word of advice on this, I'd suggest taking it up with your parents and ask what they think of it. Who knows? They might think it's a good moral, too.

[*Rarity 123]

1. Does it contradict Matthew 19:26? Why or why not?

2. Does God really want us to be open-minded? Why or why not?

 

3. Should we Christians limit our views on all the wonderful things in this world by connecting them with God? Why or why not?

 

4. What wonderful things in this world can't even we Christians explain?

 

5. Contributing to question 3, suppose I was married and my wife had a baby and I was like "God has blessed us!" and yet we can't explain why women are pregnant, even if God had a reason for women to be pregnant. Also, in certain cases, we might say "God has blessed us!" but in other cases, we can't explain certain wonderful things, even if there's the possibility that God has blessed us still. Would we Christians be hypocrites in cases like these?

1: I don't see why it would. We might be using different translations, but the one I googled up quickly was "Jesus looked at them and said, “With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible.”

 

And I really don't quite get what that has to do with that. We cannot explain God, we can try our best, and utterly fail. The bible is proof of that. It has so many images of God, written by so many people, who have so many views of Him. None of them might be wrong, but none of them will be right, not alone. We could say that "God is everything" which might be true aswell... But we can still not really explain everything about God, and we can't use God to help us explain God, because we cannot talk to him directly. Indirectly we can, but it can be hard to judge what is what.

 

2: Why would he not want us to be open-minded? He created us this way... I mean, I fully believe in evolution and all, but I believe the path we went was pretty controlled, more or less.

 

3: I don't think we are limiting ourselves by connecting everything with God... I mean, surely it is a bit weird to "THANK GOD FOR THIS FOOD" if someone bought, made, cooked the food for you. You could thank both, that's what I would do. I don't do dinner-table-prayers, but if I would, I would tell everyone to say something like "Let us thank the chef and God for this lovely food. Amen" Just mixing together stuff now but... That would be the right thing to do, IMO.

 

4: It's not like we can explain more than others just because we believe in God... if we explain something using God, we can't explain God, so it just makes it weird. We can try our best to explain everything.

 

5: As I said before, it can be hard to judge what is "done by nature" and "done by God" even if both are the same thing... Except that the first one is even more indirect than the second, but that would be the same thing anyway. Everything is blessed by God, since God created the world, or maybe IS the world, if you're a pantheist. I'm not a pantheist myself, but i find the belief interesting.

 

That's some pretty tricky questions you got there, and people will definately answer differently depending on how fundamentalistic they are... or how God-hating they are... If you want, very literal answers taken straight out of the book, google ccgamers forum. If you're not a fundamentalist, stay the crap out of there - they might tell you to burn in hell.

[BlueEyedPegasus 59]

1: I don't see why it would. We might be using different translations, but the one I googled up quickly was "Jesus looked at them and said, “With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible.”

 

And I really don't quite get what that has to do with that. We cannot explain God, we can try our best, and utterly fail. The bible is proof of that. It has so many images of God, written by so many people, who have so many views of Him. None of them might be wrong, but none of them will be right, not alone. We could say that "God is everything" which might be true aswell... But we can still not really explain everything about God, and we can't use God to help us explain God, because we cannot talk to him directly. Indirectly we can, but it can be hard to judge what is what.

 

2: Why would he not want us to be open-minded? He created us this way... I mean, I fully believe in evolution and all, but I believe the path we went was pretty controlled, more or less.

 

3: I don't think we are limiting ourselves by connecting everything with God... I mean, surely it is a bit weird to "THANK GOD FOR THIS FOOD" if someone bought, made, cooked the food for you. You could thank both, that's what I would do. I don't do dinner-table-prayers, but if I would, I would tell everyone to say something like "Let us thank the chef and God for this lovely food. Amen" Just mixing together stuff now but... That would be the right thing to do, IMO.

 

4: It's not like we can explain more than others just because we believe in God... if we explain something using God, we can't explain God, so it just makes it weird. We can try our best to explain everything.

 

5: As I said before, it can be hard to judge what is "done by nature" and "done by God" even if both are the same thing... Except that the first one is even more indirect than the second, but that would be the same thing anyway. Everything is blessed by God, since God created the world, or maybe IS the world, if you're a pantheist. I'm not a pantheist myself, but i find the belief interesting.

 

That's some pretty tricky questions you got there, and people will definately answer differently depending on how fundamentalistic they are... or how God-hating they are... If you want, very literal answers taken straight out of the book, google ccgamers forum. If you're not a fundamentalist, stay the crap out of there - they might tell you to burn in hell.

You do offer some good insights, and I'm sure God would want us to be more open-minded since we are all made in His image. Still, this episode has gradually helped me come to terms with how people of faith and reasoning should learn to be more open-minded and choose to accept certain things for what they are, which I'm sure is what the "believing" part in this episode partially meant. I also agree that it does sometimes take a friend, or, religiously, even God Himself, to show you the way. I think Lauren Faust was wrong in seeing how this episode's moral wasn't one that should be preached, and I really wish I could share my thoughts with her.

Edited November 2, 2013 by BlueEyedPegasus

[*Rarity 123]

You do offer some good insights, and I'm sure God would want us to be more open-minded since we are all made in His image. Still, this episode has gradually helped me come to terms with how people of faith and reasoning should learn to be more open-minded and choose to accept certain things for what they are, which I'm sure is what the "believing" part in this episode meant. I also agree that it does sometimes take a friend, or, religiously, even God Himself, to show you the way. I think Lauren Faust was wrong in seeing how this episode's moral wasn't one that should be preached, and I really wish I could share my thoughts with her.

I was/am too lazy to listen to what Lauren said, nor did I read the links that you linked... Well, I thought i had pretty bad insights. When I answer questions like these, I think "Oh damn, in 10 years, I might be getting questions harder than these from people who expect me to answer them enormously well... crap... and I can't even answer these properly!". Still, I don't quite see why it SHOULDN'T be preached. MLP has a lot of good things to say, even if "most" is quite obvious things, atleast the things that we see in the early season(s)/episodes... But that doesn't make it any less important, it just means we heard it a dussin times before, doesn't hurt to hear it once more!

 

 

 

my dream is to become a priest in the swedish church. pretty liberal protestantic church that allows everyone. Me and the church would probably say that we mainly follow Jesus, and not the OT/Paulus so much, and that's why we accept homosexuals, women, and literally everyone. The americans i met at that cc forum, was very chocked by the fact that the priest that held my confirmation was homosexual. I saw/see nothing wrong with it. Now, let's not get too off-topic here now...

 

[BlueEyedPegasus 59]

MAJOR UPDATE: I've updated my defense on this episode yet again!:

 

http://www.fimfiction.net/blog/193967/my-own-defense-of-feeling-pinkie-keen-updated

 

Just today, I've come to terms with how the "believing" sense in this episode has more than one meaning.

[FoxyCryptid 4,330]

Since I never answered the question of the thread fully, I think I need to know. From my perspective the only true morals of Christianity are to love thy neighbor and not bring harm to another unless it's an act of self-defense or protecting other innocent lives. With all that said I think the the moral is fine because it doesn't actively conflict with any of that,    

[FNGRpony 658]

So he tried to be nice to his friend and comfort him/her, and the first thing you do is being a dick about it by pointing out his own beliefs not following the comforts? Dude, you are awful, seriously.

No i'm not.  Cause i've had the same exact guy torment me "ha your gonna go in the ground and rot when you die."

 

It's this kinda mentality i'm expect to lump, and the moment athesist need comfort i'm suppose to let it go.

I'm not awful.  I'm just not a chump.