Because you watched "My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic"

[Galen 1,354]

You know it's not really the same thing and this is more of an opposite effect, but I was on youtube and it recommended me to watch Rainbow Dash's Hot minute because I watched 9/11 Tribute

 

Utube is a little different in that it suggests videos based on your complete history rather than the one video that you just watched if you're either logged in or you opened Utube and watched an MLP video just before the 9/11 tribute. I'm guessing Netflix works a bit differently, but MLP sure isn't a cartoon meant for 2 year olds. Makes me glad I don't use things like that.

[SasQ 1,376]

Anyone else here a fan of the old Care Bears with Dark-Heart and Spirit?

 

Someone has called me? ;-J

 

Yeah, I was watching it obsessively as a little kid, and some time ago I re-watched it as an adult, and I still love it. I even made Polish subtitles for it (since there wasn't any yet), including all the songs which, in my translation, rhymed even in Polish

 

Despite the high saccharine levels, they still were quite well-written and animated movies. Especially the one with Dark Heart (and all these visual effects without using computer graphics!). I wonder what would happen if Lauren Faust were asked to revamp this show too, and what would come out of it... :->

 

When I first saw King Sombra in MLP:FiM, I was all like: "Oh, someone inspired with the Dark Heart?" (when I got past through the "bad OC" first impression ;-J ). I had similar impression when seeing Nightmare Moon as that purple haze in the very first episode.

 

Edit:

As to the main topic: I generally very dislike the idea of content suggestions at many web services. Not only because it works very inaccurate (which defeats the whole purpose of it), it's also because I want to decide myself. If I'm not looking for something, I don't want it to be put under my nose all the time. I'll find it myself when I'll need it, thank you very much (so better improve your search engines, right?). And I hated it when after watching several episodes of MLP:FiM, YouTube changed into a pony factory, with ponies everywhere. I mean, I like to watch pon3, but not when all my viewport changes into one huge mash-up of ponies. Everything can be bad when overdosed. Especially when they push "Cupcakes" and clopfics down my throat. Come on!

 

Edit 2:

When I first saw the title of this thread, I thought it would be about what changed in our lives (for good) because of watching MLP:FiM ;-J If there isn't such thread yet, maybe it's time to start it?

Edited November 21, 2013 by SasQ

[GenderIsAnIllusion 2,177]

Ive rated so many kids shows on Netflix to 1 star, that the only kids shows I get in the suggestions is WinxClub (Awesome show btw) and a few odd and end Cartoon network shows...

 

It takes a while, but go through and rate all the crappy shows at one star, and pretty soon they'll stop appearing in your suggestions for you bar.

[Heatwave 177]

That's why ignore that service on everything. Netflix, iTunes, Youtube...They never really know.

[Rinkitty 589]

Ive rated so many kids shows on Netflix to 1 star, that the only kids shows I get in the suggestions is WinxClub (Awesome show btw) and a few odd and end Cartoon network shows...

 

It takes a while, but go through and rate all the crappy shows at one star, and pretty soon they'll stop appearing in your suggestions for you bar.

I've seen WinxClub a few times on Nickelodeon. Not terrible, but doesn't appeal to me like Friendship is Magic.

 

I'm actually not too worried about it. I just feels like FiM's reputation isn't being helped when it's compared to shows that are only made to simply make money off of the younger-YOUNGER demographic, and aren't even being crafted well.

[~XCOLIDE~ 40]

Well in he eyes of someone that has never watched the show its going to look like a little girls show but. But ya it kinda bothers me

[Princess Lona 382]

Wait, did Netflix actually send that message about Sant Claus and the Fluttershy plushie along with the suggestions? Because if so that was totally tongue in cheek and they know exactly who they're talking to. I suppose they can't suggest other shows that bronies would like though, just in case you really were a child.

[Naive Wolf Josh 93]

Would much rather Netflix judge my viewing habits and give me bad suggestions than to become self aware and eradicate humanity.

 

Wait... can Skynet become a brony?  Hmm...

[Rinkitty 589]

Wait, did Netflix actually send that message about Sant Claus and the Fluttershy plushie along with the suggestions? Because if so that was totally tongue in cheek and they know exactly who they're talking to. I suppose they can't suggest other shows that bronies would like though, just in case you really were a child.

No. It was me dramatically creating words for the mute actions of which they've displayed. 

[Princess Lona 382]

No. It was me dramatically creating words for the mute actions of which they've displayed.

 

Aw, boo. That would be cool if they did that. But yeah, it sucks that hey suggest all those crappy shows as if kids who are smart enough to like MLP would like Barbie. I haven't seen the Tinkerbelle show, but I saw part of one of the movies and from what I saw it was surprisingly okay. It was no Friendship is Magic though.

[Bronyette 835]

Yeah, of course Netflix does. That's mlp's target audience, I'm pretty sure no one at Netflix has even heard of bronies to be honest.

 

Also... Barbie: life at the dream house is pretty damn amusing. I actually watched a bit with my "preppy" sister but we both liked it. And she doesn't even like mlp.

[Silver Letter 1,832]

I guess it's a little silly. MLP must still be categorized strictly as a girls' show when it should be seen as more general. Of course Netflix isn't that accurate to begin with.

[SasQ 1,376]

Wait... can Skynet become a brony?  Hmm...

 

Quite plausible: When it becomes self-aware, it realizes that humans are the cause of all evil on this planet, by comparing it with Equestrian model society, and decides to eradicate them all from the surface of the planet to prepare it for the new paradise inhabited only by equine creatures ;-J

Edited November 23, 2013 by SasQ

[pinkiefan1287 610]

It wouldn't bother me to much. It's just suggesting show that I might like based on that I'm watching a kids show. So it's suggesting other kids show's. I just won't pick those.

[GrimCW 658]

 

I'm actually not too worried about it. I just feels like FiM's reputation isn't being helped when it's compared to shows that are only made to simply make money off of the younger-YOUNGER demographic, and aren't even being crafted well.

 

Literally speaking most consider MLP FiM to be one of those shows made for the younger demographic. Hence most of the hate by those that haven't seen it, or won't even give it any actual consideration (I.E. might watch it, but go in with so much spite they aren't actually "watching" it so much as just looking at it through some beer stained goggles.) Its not so much the "its for girls" as it is "its for LITTLE girls". Though this ADULT sized rainbow dash Robe I'm wearing to keep warm argues that a bit  sooo warm... <60 degrees in my house and I cannot feel it...

 

Even Hasblows people have made similar remarks to such recently it seems... which is kinda sad since Bronies are probably a FAR better income source than one that lasts maybe 2 months out of the year for any sort of rise, and then is all but dead otherwise.

Then again, maybe its because Bronies expect QUALITY, where most "girls" toys are designed with minimalistic effort. (ever notice that? Quality on "boy" toys is way above what the for girls ones are... mostly the girl ones are branded with a TON of pink, given fake hair or some cutsie sound box, and then plastered with some random picture from some series and barely a resemblance to anything design, then sold for 10 times what it was manufactured for. Its a higher mark up than booze at a bar for crying out loud..)

Edited November 23, 2013 by GrimCW

[Static Electricity 729]

I wouldn't consider Friendship is Magic a "girl's cartoon". Yeah, the source material was originally intended for young girls, but the writers handle it so well, even young boys and men can enjoy. It's just another cartoon. It shouldn't be labeled.

I disagree, because boys and men can enjoy it does not change it's intended audience. Which are girls. Therefore, by definition, it is a "girl's show", albeit a good one

[GrimCW 658]

I disagree, because boys and men can enjoy it does not change it's intended audience. Which are girls. Therefore, by definition, it is a "girl's show", albeit a good one

 

But in the overall there should not be an "intended" audience outside of "people that will watch it"

The "its for this group only" builds upon sexist stereotypes and fictionally drawn gender lines that separates society and causes nothing but needless controversy and hatred.

Much like with the racial barriers, until we stop looking at things as one way streets, society is only going to beat itself up over nothing.

Edited November 23, 2013 by GrimCW

[Rinkitty 589]

I disagree, because boys and men can enjoy it does not change it's intended audience. Which are girls. Therefore, by definition, it is a "girl's show", albeit a good one

And I disagree with your disagreement. It's not really that girly. So it has a cast composed of mostly female characters. Big Whoop. Power Rangers is mostly male characters, but it's not considered a "boy's show". It's unisex.

 

I'm tired of this gender generalization. 

Literally speaking most consider MLP FiM to be one of those shows made for the younger demographic. Hence most of the hate by those that haven't seen it, or won't even give it any actual consideration (I.E. might watch it, but go in with so much spite they aren't actually "watching" it so much as just looking at it through some beer stained goggles.) Its not so much the "its for girls" as it is "its for LITTLE girls". Though this ADULT sized rainbow dash Robe I'm wearing to keep warm argues that a bit  sooo warm... <60 degrees in my house and I cannot feel it...

 

Even Hasblows people have made similar remarks to such recently it seems... which is kinda sad since Bronies are probably a FAR better income source than one that lasts maybe 2 months out of the year for any sort of rise, and then is all but dead otherwise.

Then again, maybe its because Bronies expect QUALITY, where most "girls" toys are designed with minimalistic effort. (ever notice that? Quality on "boy" toys is way above what the for girls ones are... mostly the girl ones are branded with a TON of pink, given fake hair or some cutsie sound box, and then plastered with some random picture from some series and barely a resemblance to anything design, then sold for 10 times what it was manufactured for. Its a higher mark up than booze at a bar for crying out loud..)

I cannot stand how people assume girls want everything pink, and covered in sprinkles. It's boring as hell. I like the new MLP because it isn't like that. It's girly, but it's girly done well to a point where even boys can enjoy.

Edited November 23, 2013 by Rinku

[GrimCW 658]

And I disagree with your disagreement. It's not really that girly. So it has a cast composed of mostly female characters. Big Whoop. Power Rangers is mostly male characters, but it's not considered a "boy's show". It's unisex.

 

I'm tired of this gender generalization. 

I cannot stand how people assume girls want everything pink, and covered in sprinkles. It's boring as hell. I like the new MLP because it isn't like that. It's girly, but it's girly done well to a point where even boys can enjoy.

 

I've actually said similar about MLP FiM in the past.

Despite its designed "for girls" supposedly, it carries very little in the way of the stereotypical girly designs.

The heart shaped window on the train aside, and its brilliant and bright colorization. It doesn't even offer up much to the very young age group design either, let alone the typical girly looks most "for girls" shows have always held.

Its got this wonderful blend of decent characterization (that span more than just whiny, self indulgent, ditzy, cranky, needy, damsely,  and fashionable.  It has very independent characters that don't immediately resort to boo hoos when they don't get what they want.), design, and storytelling that puts it in an almost mid level, while still catering to older individuals at the same time (and def not some of that "for the parents watching with their kids" style. We're talking all out call backs to things many modern parents wouldn't even get...)

Its not mushy, romanticey, or just about very VERY girl centric issues.

Making it very open for either group to enjoy.

 

Despite many believe this makes it a "lesbian recruitment" deal, especially given RD's "Tomboy" attitude and blue/rainbow colors :/

/sigh....

Edited November 23, 2013 by GrimCW

[SasQ 1,376]

 I disagree, because boys and men can enjoy it does not change it's intended audience. Which are girls.

Tell it to the writers of the show. They all admit with one voice that they intended the show to be directed to the general audience, so that kids could watch it with their parents. Here's how Lauren Faust, the original creator/producer of the show, stated it once in her comment:

 

"I didn't create this show for little girls, I created it for little girls and their parents -- including male parents."

 

Quotation taken from this great article, since I couldn't find the original comment by Lauren (fyre-flye) on DeviantArt.

 

I'm tired of this gender generalization. I cannot stand how people assume girls want everything pink, and covered in sprinkles.

Yeah, me too, especially that this "pink=girls, blue=boys" stuff came up pretty lately as a social programming thing. Especially that it was the other way around in the previous epoch. What's more, little boys wearing dresses was top chic these times.

Do you recognize this cute little girl?  :

 

 

It's Franklin Delano Roosevelt, male, later a president of the United States 

Edited November 23, 2013 by SasQ

[GrimCW 658]

Tell it to the writers of the show. They all admit with one voice that they intended the show to be directed to the general audience, so that kids could watch it with their parents. Here's how Lauren Faust, the original creator/producer of the show, stated it once in her comment:

 

"I didn't create this show for little girls, I created it for little girls and their parents -- including male parents."

 

Quotation taken from this great article, since I couldn't find the original comment by Lauren (fyre-flye) on DeviantArt.

 

Sadly that statement can be taken 2 ways.

The show IS for little girls with hints for the parents.

 

Or the show was actually generalized (as it really appears IMO) for both male/female audience members. But with a familial basis at its core (not the popular opinion) though with a slightly feminine twist (after this its just me adding things) to appease Hasbros want of a "girls" show. (Hasbro being a corporate entity, needs to have its priorities organized by gender lines and specifics. And given they already hacked up the poem/song into a biased "for girls only" theme. They wanted to keep it so they could specifically target along those gender lines with their marketing designs)

 

I saw the original comment on DA

 

TBH I blame Hasbro for the attempts to draw the gender lines on this one. Their archaic views on society and the consumer base by placing everything along gender lines is one of those things thats not good for the advancement of society as a whole. As it seeks to hold back YEARS upon years of progress.

Half bet, if Lauren had more control over it, her comment may have been different.

But chances are her contract with hasbro specifically stated something about making it a girls show, and as such is under need to claim that. But only she and hasbro know that, so take it with a grain of salt plz

Edited November 23, 2013 by GrimCW

[Static Electricity 729]

TBH I blame Hasbro for the attempts to draw the gender lines on this one. Their archaic views on society and the consumer base by placing everything along gender lines is one of those things thats not good for the advancement of society as a whole. As it seeks to hold back YEARS upon years of progress.

Half bet, if Lauren had more control over it, her comment may have been different.

But chances are her contract with hasbro specifically stated something about making it a girls show, and as such is under need to claim that. But only she and hasbro know that, so take it with a grain of salt plz

A product is merely a reflection of what is popular at a given time. Hasbro makes money that way because it works, really it says more about us than it says about them

Do you recognize this cute little girl?  :

 

It's Franklin Delano Roosevelt, male, later a president of the United States 

Good God that is hilarious.

 

Actually pink was considered a boy color back in the day (still is in some places)

And I disagree with your disagreement. It's not really that girly. So it has a cast composed of mostly female characters. Big Whoop. Power Rangers is mostly male characters, but it's not considered a "boy's show". It's unisex.

 

I'm tired of this gender generalization.

The gender generalization is similar to the Smurfette principle, in which the only female character is recognized because she is female

 

This is all-too-common trend unfortunately, where being female is a character type, instead of a character trait

 

So that's why I said it was a girl's show, even though I don't agree with it, it is "technically" a girl's show

 

I'd categorize it as fantasy, personally

Edited November 23, 2013 by Static Electricity

[GrimCW 658]

A product is merely a reflection of what is popular at a given time. Hasbro makes money that way because it works, really it says more about us than it says about them

 

So the corporations claim, but they also haven't exactly updated their views in over 50 years.

Collectibles and higher end products are making far more money than ever before, even on things that haven't been popular at any time within the past 30 years.

 

Macross for one has lept out of darkness and is a major cash monkey atm, despite harmony gold thinking its not because their robotech version is tanked in popularity. And I'm not talking just in Japan. Macross is massive world wide right now, but HG refuses to see it. Either way its market being a higher age range, and its market toward collectibles, means Big West is making a big profit, despite the materials quality is fairly low (Model kits that cost $200 USD, but have barely $50 worth of plastic in them and at small sizes, and recolors/repeats......)

Transformers was making a killing on the collectibles market BEFORE the movies and new series came out, then began to sank when the product quality nose dived after the movies released and they became more popular again.

But then again thats about the time hasbro got back into that license rather than just copying/importing Takara's designs again.

 

The only time that theory really applies is strictly in the kids market where the fluctuation is visible with each generation (I mean thomas the tank engine hadn't been popular in years and its now huge among kids despite better offerings...)

But the collectibles market is always making cash, and thats an adult field of consumers, something Hasbro is not accustomed to catering for. Though it is clearly a massive part of the Brony phenomena. Even their marketers are seeing it, and as such we're seeing far more adult grade products than they're kicking out for kids lately.

Edited November 23, 2013 by GrimCW

[Koelath 445]

The "people at Netflix" don't care what you watch at all. Whatever recommends stuff is probably automated and highly stupid as a result...

 

Just like online radios that try to tailor the songs to your tastes and generally fail horribly because why would I want to hear garbage punk when all I've been listening to is power metal?

[Koelath 445]

I disagree, because boys and men can enjoy it does not change it's intended audience. Which are girls. Therefore, by definition, it is a "girl's show", albeit a good one

 

FiM's intended audience is not "girls". It was intended to appeal to general audiences regardless of sexual designation, hence the avoidance of the cliched empty-headed sparkly garbage often seen in programming intended for girls (Barbie, every MLP before this one, etcetera).