Should cloppers be segregated from bronies?

[TheChosenPony 279]

So, why suggest putting them into a seperate fandom? Even if we did that, the half that's considered not the cloppers will still be stereotyped and discriminated. Like I said before, there's nothing we can do about it, and the more we try the worse it'll get. (Not in all cases, but I can see that easily happening in this one in particular)

Eh, I didn't really mean that, read the edit I made in the OP

[Crispy 5,565]

Okay- I'm not asking that cloppers leave the herd and I'm not pointing any fingers here.

 

All I'm trying to say is that cloppers and bronies be seperate

 

Looks like that's exactly what you're doing.

 

Either way, it doesn't matter.  The term is out there, and it's gonna be the first line of attack if someone wants to be critical about you liking the colorful horse show, regardless of if you do or not, so who cares?

[FoxyCryptid 4,330]

The average person that would use that as ammo wouldn't care anyway. They're fully aware not every one of is into it, but it's the easiest way to attack us and get a reaction, so they "go for the low hanging fruit" so to speak. As someone who's been/kinda is in both the Sonic and Furry fandom I can verify that accusing you of being a pervert that whacks to it is a common tactic, and is in no way something people only do when attacking bronies 

 

It's no different from accusing all furries of being zoophiles, or all anime fans of being into freaky hentai. 

Edited February 11, 2014 by Shoboni

[Budding Night 1,043]

Edit: Look Everypony, This is not my mutual opinion to every brony out there, I myself view everyone as equal. All  I'm trying to say is that jerking off to cartoon ponies should be kept private, and in closed conversation. I dont like the fact that theres a growing rumor going around that all bronies are people who clop

 

 

Hardly any of us do. We have to get used to it, learn to ignore the people that spread the rumours.

 

And just to say, it's not growing, it's already grown.

Edited February 11, 2014 by Budding Night

[Aerodynas 439]

I was about to say XD I hope y'all understand that ChosenPony isn't attacking the idea of cloppers at all. He/she just finds it sad that society looks down upon us so much and instantly acuses us as pedifiliac children-show masturbaters...(don't know if I can use that word or not...) It's not right really since that has nothing to do with being a clopper but it is what it is....

[TheChosenPony 279]

Looks like that's exactly what you're doing.

 

Either way, it doesn't matter.  The term is out there, and it's gonna be the first line of attack if someone wants to be critical about you liking the colorful horse show, regardless of if you do or not, so who cares?

Again,read the edit I made in the OP

[Budding Night 1,043]

Again,read the edit I made in the OP

 

Not to be an ass, but how does that change anything?

 

 

I was about to say XD I hope y'all understand that ChosenPony isn't attacking the idea of cloppers at all. He/she just finds it sad that society looks down upon us so much and instantly acuses us as pedifiliac children-show masturbaters...(don't know if I can use that word or not...) It's not right really since that has nothing to do with being a clopper but it is what it is....

 

Yeah, but y'know, at the end of the day, there really isn't much we can do It's sad, but we have to get used to it.

[Skylar 1,641]

To be honest I'm starting to think this is kind of a troll topic, user is a brand new account and instantly makes a topic like this, seems a little odd  

[Budding Night 1,043]

To be honest I'm starting to think this is kind of a troll topic, user is a brand new account and instantly makes a topic like this, seems a little odd

 

I'll second you on that one mate

[Aerodynas 439]

@@Budding Night,

Well...there's always wishful thinking that we may be accepted and seen differently but I doubt that'll ever happen.

 

So we shall march on!

[FoxyCryptid 4,330]

A

 

And I'm okay with that (except when it comes to rape and incest, come on people, really?)

 

 

Oh God yes, especially the incest. Even more so when it involves an adult and a underage character. I don't how many times I've sat down and gone "why, just dear God why".

Edited February 11, 2014 by Shoboni

[TheChosenPony 279]

Jesus christ I just watched "Cupcakes"

 

I feel like i just watched SAW all over again except with a loved character....

 

If you need me I'll be in the closet

[Sir Hugsalot 9,370]

Okay- I'm not asking that cloppers leave the herd and I'm not pointing any fingers here.

 

All I'm trying to say is that cloppers and bronies be seperate fandoms and definitions.

 

There is a lot of confusion with non-bronies, some people think all bronies are cloppers....

 

Does anypony see my point? 

I dont want to admit that I'm a brony to someone and invite them into the herd and have them think I'm some kind of wierdo that clops to animated ponies.....

<sarcasm mode on>What a great idea! I'd like to give it a little update.

 

1. Let's segragate fans of black metal from metalheads in general. I don't want to be associated with some weirdos wearing corpse paint and burning churches!

2. Let's segragate fans of new Star Wars trilogy from Star Wars fanbase. I don't want to be associated with people that like those awful movies! They have no taste at all! Boohoo!

 

<sarcasm off>

 

Sorry, first of all - no, I am not a clopper. Now, to the point. Yeah, some people find cloppers weird and I can hardly blame them for this, but... what the? Why should they be segragated from bronies?

Because people are ignorant enough to associate entire fandom with them? It's their problem, not ours. I am not going to suddenly change myself "because stereotypes". 

Because it's weird? I find many things weird yet I don't even suggest segregating them.

Because they are worse? Well... in what way are they worse?

Because You don't like them? I don't like vodka, can we segragate it from alcohol!

 

 

Besides even if it was good idea - now it is too late anyway. People won't stop considering bronies "weirdos that clop to colorful joyful ponies" just because we suddenly seperate cloppers from us. It does not work that way. And never would, because mass media made us look that way. They'd say that cloppers are "part of bronies" and outcome would be literally same. Sorry, but Your idea is just bad and there is no way to make it good. 

[TheChosenPony 279]

I'll second you on that one mate

 

No I'm not a troll, I needed to be enlightened on how to handle this, Thanks  Everypony *goes back into closet*

[Skylar 1,641]

@@TheChosenPony,

 

If you wanted advice you really went the wrong way about it.  

[TheChosenPony 279]

@@TheChosenPony,

 

If you wanted advice you really went the wrong way about it.  

 

I'm kinda bad at asking for those kind of things *goes into different closet*

[Budding Night 1,043]

@@TheChosenPony,

 

If you wanted advice you really went the wrong way about it.

This is very true, @@TheChosenPony. It doesn't seem like you're simply asking for 'enlightenment' on how to handle it when you're suggesting we should separate the fandom up.

[Twilie 184]

I don't think they should be segregated as long as they don't make a big deal about them being a clopper and posting pony porn all over the place. I have met many nice people on the forums that (probably) have clopped (based on the evidence of the clop survey) and if they were segregated to a different fandom then I wouldn't have even gotten the opportunity to meet them. 

 

I don't understand how people could clop... It doesn't make sense to me, so I tend to avoid the topic because I have seen people get defensive and accusing over this subject.

 

Bottom line, as long as you keep it to your self (as people should anyways, especially on the forums) then there wont be a problem. 

[Aerodynas 439]

*sigh* everyone seems to jump to conclusions when someone posts something like this...instead of seeing it as an attack (and even if it is it should be understood as a respected opinion) understand that it's an idea or maybe it was simply misunderstood. 

 

Always when I see attacks in return on a thread such as this, I will always remind all of you

 

Remember the foundations at which this fandom was made   

[TheChosenPony 279]

Can we just let this post die now?

Edited February 11, 2014 by TheChosenPony

[Budding Night 1,043]

Can we just let this post die now?

 

Wow.

 

No offence, but wow. Really?

 

You're hardly standing up for the reason you made the thread in the first place, now you just want the thread the die?

 

(That probably sounds really mean and I'm sorry about that)

[TheChosenPony 279]

Wow.

 

No offence, but wow. Really?

 

You're hardly standing up for the reason you made the thread in the first place, now you just want the thread the die?

 

(That probably sounds really mean and I'm sorry about that)

 

I dont really want to talk about it now that I understand.

 

If you read through the whole topic and my replies, you'll understand.

 

I just dont want someone else to make a reply asking the same question and challenging me

Edited February 11, 2014 by TheChosenPony

[Harmonic Revelations 8,837]

>Implying that actually not clopping would make people stop calling all bronies cloppers.

 

I don't think the OP understands how the internet works..

[Budding Night 1,043]

I dont really want to talk about it now that I understand.

 

Dude, c'mon. You aren't going to even apologise or say why you thought it should be like that? Because an explanation would be nice.

[Skylar 1,641]

I dont really want to talk about it now that I understand.

 

If you read through the whole topic and my replies, you'll understand.

 

I just dont want someone else to make a reply asking the same question and challenging me

 

Then why actually make a topic about it in the first place...